I think this type of format is easier to digest and learn from since there's no chaotic changes going on in a live game, plus no banter so it's less distracting. Great video Neace.
@@prod.arcsyne2990 watching a replay while trying to understand something and therefore distracting yourself because you're focusing on more things at once isn't going to help you put it into practice.
@@plasmodius9449 but alot of the things that neace teaches are situational, isnt it better to see why and how something works? aswell as what situations they apply?
@@prod.arcsyne2990 and thats why you take this information like this in this format into your next viewing of gameplay, so you have a better chance of understanding the chaos. It is not more complicated than that.
@@clemrossi9054 That may be true, but apparently people are not watching those videos because they are constantly making these mistakes. But let's assume for a moment that everyone has watched the relevant video(s). Even when I know something is dumb to do, I still might do it simply because I have not yet built up the reflex to avoid doing it. When you are training yourself, reminders help. Even better is when a reminder is coming from someone you trust, in a manner you can easily comprehend, in a place you constantly revisit (so you can be reminded over and over, again).
Imagine how I feel - played since beta for like 5 or 6 years straight and these higher concepts were only barely sort of coalescing in some top players heads towards the end of that. When I stopped playing, I had never heard someone articulate half of the kind of concepts that people seem to have articulated better since SIX YEARS just flopping around summoners rift like a pigeon with a muzzle on
Hi Neace. I'm an even older ancient person (38). I knew Gandalf in his teens. I just wanna say I see you working hard and I appriciate all your efforts and your great content, thank you.
There is a surprising amount of older folks who play video games. Even games like csgo valorant or any high skill games u see a lot ppl in there 30 ‘s destroying a lobby.
Here are some timestamps for everyone :) 1. 1:21 Try to get a level 1 advantage 2. 7:18 Learn how to play into champs like Teemo, Illaoi, and Darius 3. 11:35 Terrible warding habits 4. 14:55 Getting stuck in front of (enemy) tower 5. 17:44 Falling behind in XP due to ARAM 6. 20:52 You can't teleport well, so just bring ignite (but actually you can, with flanks) 7. 23:09 Leverage your XP leads 8. 25:40 How to split push and defend against them 9. 28:28 Don't sneak rift herald (or else you'll lose XP) 10. 30:52 You're not LCS, play champs in your paygrade Bonus: Take one thing from each of these parts, write it on a post it note, and stick it to the corner of your monitor under the minimap. Try to do at least one of these things every game! I do very much like this video, and best of luck to everyone on the rift!
Neace never said anything about faker, you're not the coach, dont make things up, faker literally says all the time to play his champs and do what he does..
@@foster5188 I know, I just felt like it conveyed the point better than "You're not an expert at league of legends so don't play champs like X". I've never watched Faker's vids but I know he is the icon of epic gameplay so I just thought that would get the point across, sorry if that disagrees with you. I changed it to say LCS instead.
@@joshuagoldshteyn8651 I gotcha, basically just wanted to clarify that copying faker is a great way to improve, if you meant to say "You're not faker so dont play 20+ champs for each lane" I totally understand because thats something that faker CAN do that we can't.
@@foster5188 Yeah that's true as well, and I think what he was talking about was not playing champs that have an extremely high skill cap and require a huge amount of skill to play well.
Just found this video and absolutely love it. I appreciate the way that you break everything down and don't discourage or disparage people in low elo like myself, but rather show how much of a difference working on the fundamentals can truly make, as well as how much you actually don't know about the game once you're willing to put ego aside and just learn. One day I hope that I can spend the time and money to get coaching from you to see how much of a difference it could make both for my skills and self-confidence in gameplay.
Me maining kayle...like shes literally my one trick and I play her cuz i love her concept and I've always liked her kit (played since season one even when her kit was even more clunky but could shine in twisted treeline) and obviously I can still pick her in low elo but theres a lot of point where her positional pick is low key griefing the team because you lose out on either A a strong bruiser top lane, or B a roaming mid as she requires a ton of farm and doesnt come online till minimum kraken slayer or if playing AP lvl 11 with 1 and a half items. Theres 0 agency early in a game right now dominated by early game mobility leads roaming and pressure. It's all about the early gains to snowball, which is antithetical to kayles kit. Only safe place I feel her to be is in a bot lane adc pick.
@@Ok-nz7gy she isn’t bad, just difficult, and if you are lower elo it might be better to play an easy champ like garen so you are learning the fundamentals and not busy learning a complicated champ
@@SquirtleTurtle. ?? its the most popular game in the world. Even U.S representatives play league, Jared Polis and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Ain't nothing wrong with playing league
yeah this is so good, everything i wish i knew when i was starting to play, would have saved me incredible amount of inting games, if you are begginer really put an effort to sit down and learn this, this is everything you need to know for begining, more of this stuff please, would love to see some advanced macro too
I'd love to see Neace do a video like this with some micro concepts as well. I often hear him talking to clients about things like feinting, zoning, kiting, pre-emptively dodging, etc., but taking a little bit of a deeper dive and showing off some examples of these kinds of things would be awesome.
I appreciate the tips. Only problem with the teleport flank tip is in lower elo there is NEVER a ward where u wanted to teleport xD So u never end up using teleport in that way. That's why your tip with "take ignite instead" is the most solid. You're just not going to end up using the teleport. If u manage waves u can get back without loosing almost anything anyway
This video made me realize that I can't, in any way, leverage mistakes of my team mates, however I can leverage mistakes of my enemies and abuse them so hard that even paying attention to my team mates seems like a waste of time. Don't get emotional, always do the right thing in any given moment. League is about strategy, planning and tactics, not about your ego.
That's mainly the problem in low elo though, but they just don't know how to stop. I don't get the farming thing though, you literally need to practice 10 minutes a day. People say they don't have time but then play 10 games a day...
@@marco_dl Its a feels bad I can only play every so often Like a couple of days a month If its been more than a week hiatus I feel the rust in game from csing. Everything else isn't too bad, but with 200ms its just too rough.
I would also add one extra tip: making trades when the enemy has the abilities on cooldown. Example: Riven just uses her q and w on the wave, you should always try to all in her or take a big trade
And by extension, capitalizing on team fighting when you see the enemy team whiff a big ticket ulti like amumu or bard or something. If they miss that, I'm always looking to initiate or make a pick
Waiting for the MID LANE video. Srsly great content NEACE! edit. I really wish this was in portuguese so I could send it to some (most) people I know, and pray to god that they watched.
@@binarywolfcia85 it is possible. If I can go gold 3 to silver 3 in one day, you can go to iron in a few. Believe it or not, it is because of straight afk/greifing games. No in between. I am not a toxic player. If I didnt mute everyone at champ select, I'm trying to stabilize the situation if someone feeds or if someone is being a dick and tilting out a teammate. Imagine going through game after game after game playing 3 or 4v5 every single game. I can identify when I'm doing bad and can accept I lost majorly because of me, but it feels bad when it doesn't matter if you play bad or not just to have teammates leave or troll. Imagine man. G3 to s3 straight down. No wins. Because of afk and griefers. It was cursed.
@@The_Ali_G it wasn't bad or anything. It's just the mindset of players you are forced to accept. The drastic drop in rank also came from riots mmr point system. Because as I started reaching the top of g3, the system was like wait a second, this guy is placed too high. Must be luck. He needs to be put in his place. At the climb, I was losing 10-12 lp. At the start of my loss streak near the end of g3, it suddenly started dropping me 20+ lp per loss and 11-12 lp per win. So that, paired with the loss streak, it literally dragged me back down to a lower level of hell again. My lp loss started stabilizing again after I hit the bottom of s4. I never had this problem until this season. Now I can understand the players complaining about the situation of lp loss. It's hella bs.
Well now I'm moving top from supp and I must say I was wandering in the river and mid lossing all the exp... But now i can understand why i was under level. Love it!
watched half this vid, queued ranked, and noticed EVERYTHING hed mentioned within the first half. i got smacked as cho-gath 0/4 vs gangplank (who was very good at laning), but then gp went aram mid while i stayed top even during the first 3 drakes. managed to match gp's level after being 3 levels down and be super helpful in teamfights and won the game with a fed af ekko. best league teacher on yt
I watch almost every video you publish. This, however, was one of the most easily digestible yet detailed content peptalks you've ever posted. Thank you.
#1 1:21 NOT TRYING TO GET A LVL 1 LEAD #2 7:19 CANNOT PLAY INTO TEEMO/ILLAOI/DARIUS #3 11:35 TERRIBLE WARDING HABITS, MISSING XP IN LANE #4 14:55 GETTING HARDSTUCK INFRONT OF TOWER #5 17:44 FALLING BEHIND IN XP CUS OF ARAM #6 20:52 TERRIBLE TELEPORTS WITH EXAMPLES. GO IGNITE. #7 23:09 NOT LEVERAGING XP LEADS HARD ENOUGH / BEING TOO SCARED TO 1V2 WITH LEAD #8 25:40 HOW TO SPLIT PUSH AND DEFEND YOUR SPLIT PUSH #9 28:28 TRYNA RIFT HAROLD #10 30:53 PLAYING CHAMPS THAT ARE HARD AND REQUIRE LOTS OF TIME AND PRACTICE TO PLAY WELL WITH EXAMPLES OF GOOD CHAMPS TO IMPROVE WITH. IF YOU WANNA HAVE FUN AND IMPROVE AT A SLOWER RATE YOU CAN PLAY THOSE HARD CHAMPS BUT IF YOU WANT TO DIRECTLY IMPROVE AT THE GAME PLAY CHAMPS HE RECOMMENDS BECAUSE HARDER CHAMPS MAKE YOU WORRY AND STRESS ABOUT HARD MECHANICS ALONG WITH LEARNING THE BASICS.
I know i'm late, but i reaaally liked that(especially since i just begun using nocturne top, but also because of the content). It's that kind of video that i can just come back whenever i want and remember the things you teached, without really having to search for what i'm looking for. Loved it.
I am new to your channel and coaching, I came from Rav's channel and subscribed. Thankyou for your content! I'm already enjoying my games a bit more after watching your content.
A few questions! I've noticed as beginner toplaner, that sometimes the ADC + Support decides to take over my lane for whatever reason. Mostly happens after they've taken their first tower botlane. What reason is it for them to mobilize top and "take over"/ "switch" with me? Even if I have a perfectly stable battle/farm toplane. I usually play late game champs such as Kayle.
Botlane switches to top once they've taken the first tower because the goal of to throw the first tower of top, as it gives your team priority for baron or herald.
This is my first Neacw video, and I have learned so much so fast. I love his whole vibe. The voice, the eloquent, in depth analysis, the know how! What a boss. Instantly subscribed. Neace seems like the kind of dude who you would learn a lot from just from like, a casual interaction with. Like if I bumped into him randomly at Starbucks or something, I would leave that interaction with more knowledge than I came in with. I dig it. cheers buddy! Keep doing what you’re doing!
Just realized how many f..ups i am doing playing Top. before i could not understand how exp. is more important than gold. but now its bright and clear. Keep a good job . YES I do Like It. Many Thanks.
As he says you are supposed to play fundamental champs. Singed is not by any means a fundamental champ. He plays nothing like this. In other words, if you want to climb out of low elo, don't play Singed.
@@binarywolfcia85 I don't think that's especially true. If you want to climb out of low elo, learning to play Singed can be effective, because Singed can very easily abuse low elo players. However, you don't become a better top laner by playing Singed, you just become a better Singed player. Going from Singed to another top laner is like going from top lane to mid. Some stuff translates, some stuff doesn't, and what's threatening changes pretty wildly. Same with Illaoi I would say. Illaoi can teach bad lessons for other top laners, i.e. to Illaoi players the danger zone outside of the enemy tower isn't that scary if you have three tentacles setup and your ult available. It's more the "bait the enemy jungler or mid into taking a fight that looks good for them but is in fact terrible for them" zone. However, you can use them to get better at the game, they aren't mechanically complicated, just mechanically unique. To actually get out of low elo you still have to learn loads of the lessons that do still translate to everything. There aren't players that are high diamond top laners that are bronze level mid laners. Being good enough to get out of low elo with anyone will make you better at the game, even if it is a unique playstyle.
@@notanotherpyro Yes, that is what I meant, if you play singed you wont learn the game, you will learn Singed. And if you want to seriously climb it is best to learn the game playing fundamentals champs. But it is possible to climb by using specific almost cheese champs rather than the basics.
1. Not trying to get a Level 1 lead, or level 2, etc. (1:20) 2. Cannot play into Teemo/Illaoi/Darius (7:18) 3. Terrible warding habits - missing XP (11:34) 4. Getting stuck in front of tower (14:54) 5. Falling behind in XP because of ARAM (17:43) 6. Terrible Teleport usage. Go ignite (20:52) 7. Not leveraging XP leads hard enough (23:08) 8. How to split push & defend split push (25:41) 9. Trying to 'sneak' Rift Herald (28:28) 10. Playing champs out of your paygrade (30:52) The video elaborates on all of these really well, the timestamps are more for looking back on specific ones.
I LIKE THAT! I've put together a rune/item page for each of these champions thank you, your content is amazing I download it on my phone and watch it every break at work. Please do more of these, my two favorite roles are Top/Support but honestly I would love to see a video like this for every role.
Thank you so much for this video, i am Czech player with Bad english but i try learn some new and more what Top laner must to do in low elo and i learn again and again some New. Nice video Neace.
This was good advice that I admit for myself I don't emphasize them enough or just straight up forget. Good to hear it being brought up. I'm up for more of this kind of content.
Hi neace ive been watching your vids for a while and the chaos of live games made it harder for me to grasp the concepts youve been talking about properly this video has convinced me to practice these strategies extensively and get coaching once i feel i have grasped them.
This is great content. As a top laner (and Teemo one trick) I have two major issues: losing out on xp (whether from poor wage management or recalling at the wrong time) and CSing under pressure. This video helped with the XP issue. Let’s goooooo
Hi NEACE, watched this vid and got to p1 playing garen last year. Rewatching after taking a year break to try and get my form back. Thanks, this is a great vid.
awesome video, ive been trying to learn top lane and im 50/50 at winning and this shows me when i win its coz my enemy as thrown his or her lead not because im "better" i know this video is a year old but trust me this stuff still happens... ive always been scared to lose CS and forced fights or take damage for 2 cs rather than play defense and just farm xp... very helpful video
thx alot man for explaining nr 2 in details man learned alot here. normally i allways go in once minions are under tower and i die most of the time by not respecting defence indeed
i hundred percent liked it, thank you. ill try to keep this in my mind in every game from now and try to pick garen more often and understand the enemy champ as well as mine.
Very good tips, most of them only came to me after countless losses. Especially the ones about roaming too long, too many times where I got a huge lead and leave to help other lanes and end up losing
Ever since the inclusion of iron, I feel like I have been a lot lower down than I used to be. Videos like this help me understand wave management and the importance of my time in Lane. I like this video, and videos like this. Thank you Neace.
I was so happy he mentioned shen, that's the one that I picked and I'm having success, also another tip I would add is disabling ally chat and all chat, low elo chat is just distracting. People just flame and blame.
Nice tips, like that 😌 especially on split pushing tips, side laning as much as u can, keep farming up, forcing the wave to crash and using the lead hard enough.
I really liked that, I have always wanted to do coaching but I am very shy around new people. So this video will hopefully help me out in my future games and it gives me a list of things I can work on improving. Thank you!
I liked this, I've recently been trying more top lane, coming from ADC, and what I've been struggling with is knowing when to be offensive and defensive in lane. I've gotten better at it, but still struggle with Illowi and Darius.
I like the tips. As soon as I get my macro game polished, I'm going back to they fancy characters, like camille. Just playing garen is making my choices easier. So thanks for the tip on who to play.
I would LOOOOVE to see a mid lane tips ^^ if you do pls let me know were to find it. I learned so much from watching You for idk 5 months or less. I wish I could afford coaching. For where i live its almost half of my paycheck xD But I pay attention to your videos and wish to see more content! Especially on my favorite laners
"Don't TP like a Jerry" :D :D Awesome vid man, I would like to ask: any specific tips for champs who are a bit fragile in the first levels, like e.g. yorick?
Good video, after my solo q games im always in the mood to not touch that game for an other week. These are the type of videos that then motivate me to go back in to the game.
i like dat... i think you should do one for each lane (jungle included) every time the meta changes to help newer and less frequent players but that is alot of work also so completely understand why you might not want to just a suggestion.
Loved the video Neace! I would love to see other lane tips. My little brother is a support main and we will duo que adc/supp and very often top or jung has fed their balls off and its rough for us to carry even after doing ok/or even winning lane hard. Now I know theres a whole reddit discussion on macro/macro stuff as strictly support but I personally would love to see more stuff on winning like even solo que adc, or support, etc. Keep up the solid content man when I get the funds ill be getting a coaching from you too lol.
my only thing is about the bad teleports, most low elo players either dont drop wards at all bot lane, or only ward near their tower so it's literally impossible to have a good teleport. You can tell your jungler or bot lane to ward in a better spot at some point but it's hit or miss if they ever do it or just flame you.
I've started to implement some of these concepts on my own through LOTS of fuck ups and trial and error, but you provided excellent points to build on even further. I get so wrapped up in babysitting I end up losing my lead. Thanks Neace! I liked dat. -A hardstuck Sett main
I like dat, or love dat.. I mained fiora for a long time, but saw MASSIVE improvements when I picked up shen about a year ago. Sadly I’ve taken a long break from the game though. Love guides like these
17:05 in those situations I usually survive. I play teemo so when ever I see the jungle is like a rammus or something then I go ignite, tp and walk in my brush when they come. Once I'm invisible I tp out.
Waiting for the bottom lane one. Small suggestion - partner with a good support or adc and comment on it together. One talks about adc,the other supp. Might be good, might be bad, worth a try :)
First off. I liked dat. Secondly. I've been getting wins after I started using your tp/ignite strat on Nocturne and its so much fun. The only downside is I feel like such a bully towards the top laner stuck under turret losing his farm.
