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In a DWM story Beep the Meep crashes his space-ship into the wall of the BBC-building in an alternative universe - The 8th Doctor is trying to stop him doing evil, but gets an energy-shot that freezes him. The companion rushes into the building and finds a studio with an Tardis-console where she also meets Tom Baker. She tells him there is a Doctor Who publicity event outside and he is needed there (to distract the Meep). The monster is shivering with fear, because the 4th Doctor had defeated it before - Izzy disables the Meep and her Doctor only wakes up after zoo-wardens have carried away that furry beast. And there was a 3-parter for the 50th anniversary, "The Girle who Loved Doctor Who" where the 11th Doctor landed on a parallel earth and meets Matt Smith on a convention. The fan-girl has most of his adventures on DVD and he states that everything happened to him exactly as is depicted there...
6:20 Holy... BLUE SHIFT RED SHIFT, red for the future because you're hurtling *away* from the observer close to the speed of light, thus warping to the future. Blue shift for hurtling *towards* the observer close to the speed of light, even if that techs would not be related to going to the past, but either way a neat detail for relativistic.
Doctor Who being a fictional tv program within the universe of Doctor Who makes plenty of sense. I mean in real life we have dramatized portrayals of real people, so since the Doctor IS a real person in his own universe, and plenty of people are aware of him, I could completely buy that some screenwriter pitched an idea of an alien who can travel through time and space and has adventures that are sometimes wacky and sometimes dramatic, based on either that screenwriter's own interactions with the Doctor or perhaps a bedtime story told to him as a kid based on adventures a relative had.
Didn't Joan Redfern's daughter - New Who - Human Nature/Family of Blood - write a book about what her mother told her about her time with The Doctor in pre-world war one Britain? That shows right there that there is media about the Doctor in the Doctor Who Universe.
While not the show, the novelization of Day of the Doctor references something intended to be in the episode; that amoung the relics in the Black Archives are posters, and presumably copies, of the Peter Cushing Doctor Who movies, a loose adaptation of the first two Dalek stories.
I remember spotting the blue/red vortices and connecting it to the backwards/forwards of time travel. I also remember telling the other kids at school, but no one believed me!
The best example of Doctor Who existing in...Doctor Who is in remembrance of the Daleks! Well- possibly the first one at least. At one point Ace is leaving a livingroom and the camera zooms into a TV she put on, broadcasting BBC! The announce says something like "And now for the new scifi show- Docto-" and is cut off by the next scene 😊
So, my fav TV Doctor Who reference in the Doctor Who Universe is from Remembrance of the Daleks which is set in 1963. In the boarding house, the continuity announcer on the telly starts to introduce a new series. “Doctor -“ and then he’s cut off. Henrik in Maidstone
The doctor's scarf was knitted for him by Madame Nostradamus, mentioned by the Fourth doctor when it was slightly burned by the auto-defense electric ray in "Ark in Space": “Pity about the scarf. Madame Nostradamus made it for me. A witty little knitter… Never get another one like it.”
Only because you specifically pointed it out; it wasn't actually the Elizabeth Tower until the Jubilee in 2012, it was still just the Clock Tower in 2005 and 2006
@4:08 ‘super exciting prospect’ is one way to word it. Me sobbing hysterically throughout, is another. 7/Ace were pivotal in making me who I am. Thank you, to CC for bringing them back.
I noticed the Atmos sticker only a few days ago. This is why I love RTD's era. So much planning, so much continuity. And all these Easter eggs that mean nothing when you watch it first, but then they stand out in rewatches. The biggest case of this in my opinion has to be Torchwood - I'm amazed you didn't mention this!
First quibble (maybe last, as I'm typing as I watch - yes ,I paused; what are you, weird?), there's nothing unnecessary in the details of Doctor Who. Second is not a quibble, but rather a "yes" vote for clues list video idea. I'll think of ideas. How do you want them? Should I mail them, telegram, carve them into a rock face on the oldest planet in the Universe? Your choice. Correcting yourself about the Union Jack/Flag was a nice touch. Was that written or adlibbed? Or would that ruin the mystery? Forget I asked. I did not know about the color(colour)-coded vortex, but I did notice Pertwee's coat. See? Everything is important. I enjoyed this video a great deal. Thank you.
5:28 I wonder if the red/blue vortices should have been the other way round. Objects in the distant past would have a red tinge, as the wavelength of the light they emit would have been red-shifted as time elapsed and space expanded. However, travelling forwards in spacetime should give objects an increasingly blue tinge, as their light would be shifted towards the _blue_ end of the spectrum. ...as if it really matters, LOL :)
0:33 - The best part about that double decker bus in Planet of the Dead is the bus number is 200 - as the story was the 200th overall going back to Unearthly Child in 1963. That count assumes you do not count Shada, though - cuz if you do, it's 201. Likewise Trial of a Time Lord as 1 (which it is officially).
Wow, I never looked at the title sequence that systematically, I guess I just misremembered that Eccleston and Tennant had different Colors, but past/future never occured to me as a pattern
A very good list , I was fascinated by the minutia hidden in plain sight , in episodes I have seen nearly half dozen times each without noticing. Plus the sound of Ellie's voice is always great to hear . 🙂
I mean if we’re talking about the whoniverse having it’s own Doctor Who show, it could explain series 6b, Brigadier looking older/younger chronologically(I know some episodes were shot years later but an in universe explanation), and could also explain the unit dating controversy
The pound notes with Tennant's face on it reminds me of the comic adaptation of Batman '89 where all the money that the Joker was handing out at the parade were fake dollars with his face on it as a nod to the scene at the art gallery.
Foreshadowing was done 40 years in advance in the Fourth Doctor's speech to Sarah Jane when he paused about destroying the entire Dalek race in their incubation chamber in "Genesis of the Daleks": "But the final responsibility is mine, and mine alone. Listen, if someone who knew the future pointed out a child to you and told you that that child would grow up totally evil, to be a ruthless dictator who would destroy millions of lives, could you then kill that child?" And the Twelfth Doctor meets Davros as a child, knowing his future, and does not kill him, or let him be killed by the handmines...
I remember watching the Christmas invasion and thinking hey, there's scaffolding, such a cool detail. and then when I watched partners in crime for like, the fourth time I noticed the Atmos sticker. but everything else was unknown to me, and I loved hearing about the awesome details! Also, I'd love a video of all the times Doctor Who was in the Whoniverse! wait, it is called that right? The Whoniverse?
I thought the Time Tunnel Colour was discussed in Doctor Who Confidential episodes called "TARDIS Tales". I can't wait to see the updated Doctor Who Confidential, no one seems to be mentioning that they are bringing Confidential back as well.
i have a very palpable feeling of dread when i see the red time vortex (presumably because i felt the future stories to be more boring perhaps because of the reliance on early 2000s green screen
I always love noticing the leaflet to the Van Gogh exhibit on Craig Owen's fridge which is ironic since he never liked to leave the house at that point
Are you guys ever gonna talk about the Doctor Who comics? There’s so much good stuff to be found there, especially in the Eleventh and Tenth Doctor series from Titan Comics, not to mention the excellent Prisoners of Time. And let’s not forget that the Fourteenth Doctor’s first full adventure, Liberation of the Daleks, is being published in comic form in Doctor Who magazine.
For the knitting one, I theorize the doctor could've been making clothes for the doll, hence them being picked out the same time. No idea what the apple one is though.
Odd when you mentioned The Doc's pockets, it didn't show that in Talons, the fourth Doc was carrying a toy model of the '66 Batmobile from Bat-Man and speaking of Batty, who's idea was it that The Third Doc referenced Batman in Inferno? If the Caped Crusader can be in the Whoniverse, then why can't the Doc? He/she was almost turned into fiction in The Mind Robber, what if she/he has been all the time?
I know you were joking about getting a taxi with a Doctor bank note, however many years ago, on a night out, I somehow got a red balloon, cant remember how but I did. Got in a taxi to get my gf at the time and myself home, I jokingly offered him the balloon as payment... Turned out it was his daughters 4th birthday that day and she loved balloons and red, so he accepted! Gave him the balloon and a £10 tip (Cost of the taxi)
Well actually in Remembrance of the Daleks (Which is set on the same day as the pilot episode and incidently when Doctor Who first aired) you can hear a television talk about an exciting new series airing on the BBC called Doctor Who
It wasn’t routine restoration on the Elizabeth tower. It was structural repair to stop the bell tower from collapsing. But then he says “no second chances” and goes on to give second chances all the time.
This one all depends on whether you class Dimensions in Time as canon. This was a crossover with Eastenders, which, in army of ghosts is shown to be a soap opera. So what does that mean for the existence of Doctor Who on TV
So, I am going to say this because you highlighted it. That Taxi shouldn't have had the ATMOS sticker on it. Because Ross said in part 2 of the Sontaran Story that Taxi's were exempt from ATMOS
Doctor Who advertisement appeared in a torch would episode. Also in remembrance of the Daleks there was a scene with it being advertised on tv. Yes you should do a video about it - even though I personally don’t think it does exist inside it’s self.
I have an example of dr who being refrence inside the show In 7th dr episode "remebrance of the daleks" when ace exits the house ,the tv in the front room metions a show about a traveler in time and space before being cut off
Example's of Doctor Who existing in Doctor Who? The 10th and 11th Doctors being fans of the Peter Cushings Dr. Who movies, as quoted from the TARDIS wiki; "When in the Black Archive, Kate Stewart noted two VHS cassettes, one of them being Daleks: Invasion Earth. She noted that the Doctor and Peter Cushing had been friends and that the Doctor had loaned him a waistcoat "for the second one". The Tenth and Eleventh Doctors particularly loved the movies, joking around calling each other Dr. Who, and phoned Cushing to persuade him to make a third movie. (PROSE: The Day of the Doctor)"
Best evidence that Doctor Who exists in itself is that the Curator appears to do the linking scenes from the VHS Shada and appears at the end of the Bluray version. My theory is that the Curator is aware of an Earth where his adventures are recorded as fiction and likes to pop in. Fortunatly, our Earth doesn't feature many alien invasions but he did once help a young Dougie Adams with an alien invasion ov Cambridge. Being besties with Douglas means that he is happy to pop in and help out with the odd cameo. And as someone who loves children, the Curator also recorded links for Dimensions in Time. Tom Baker finds that he sometimes wakes up in a cupboard. But he's not too concerned as he also gets cheques from the BBC from work he's not actually done.
1:32 A) I would love to see that video and B) if Doctor Who exists within Doctor Who would that theoretically also include shows like the Thick of It and other shows that reference Doctor Who with Doctor Who actors in?
In Remembrance of the Daleks the Dr and Ace head back to 1963. There's a scene where a TV is playing the BBC and the continuity announcer says that up next is the new science fiction series, but I think someone turns it off just before he says Doctor Who
10:05 Huh, I kinda assumed they used real money. I mean, I thought they had a good enough budget, and it's not like they couldn't still use it, so it's not like it would be using up the budget - just borrowing from it.
logically, I think it's also because of law and that money could be stolen too that's why. So, it's better for it to be fake money. So, it has no actual value.
I actually believe that the peter cushing dr who films are actually movie adaptations of real world events in the dr who timeline made later on in the earth empire
Who existing it its own universe....could be as subtle as the advert on the bus, or a copy of "Who Magazine" (or Doctor Who Annual) on Rose's mum's coffee table. Or Matt Smith reading "Doctor Who Annual" featuring Tom Baker on the cover... (ha ha).
You forgot to mention Doctor who series 5-6 11th doctor He changes his Bow tie and Shirt color between Red bowtie and pinkish shirt and Blue bowtie and Bluish shirt If i remember correctly When he travels into the future he wears Blue tone When he travels into past red tone Btw its for some reason opposite of 9/10th doctor sing of where they're traveling It got swapped 🧐
Correction. Tom Baker's DR's scarf origin was referenced in ARK IN SPACE. After the auto-guard is activated, the DR narrowly avoids being zapped with 500,000 volts but not before the auto-guard chars the end of his scarf. To which the DR says: "pity about the scarf. Madam Nostradamus made it for me. Witty little knitter. "
doctor who is a show in universe and he gets the image of the dr in his head when he sees them on TVs through time and when he regens that's who he saw
Another instance of dpctor who the show existing in the show is in remembrance of the daleks. Also there's the theory that the two 60s films are films within the doctor who universe.
I'd love to see the evidence of Doctor Who existing in itself, especially if they were done in order from the first doctor and continued with the future Doctors.
