@@gohan_jI guess technically. His idea are always great though because he delivers them so well regardless of how bonkers they are. Worst if was for someone not called Chris Jericho, but in Jericho's hands, all his ideas are absolute gold.
What about the angle vince mcmahon thought of when Stephanie was pregnant that'd he'd be the father and when they shot that down he pitched shane to be the father then they shot that down too.
You children throw Cornette, Heyman and Bischoff under the bus, then purposely leave out TK when discussing AEW. You are grown adults with pathetic opinions.
WTF is with this channel just taking lame shots at all the former wrestlers. I’m not Tommy dreamer guy but he was absolutely beloved in ecw, nothing “desperate” about them, these guys just seems to be constantly negative at anyone that isn’t popular on the internet
Thought this was a list about wrestlers booking THEMSELVES in bad matches/angles. Why bring Cornette Bischoff and Heyman into this for their ideas about other people? Plus, you bend that rule and then leave Tony Khan out? 🤔
Young Bucks vs FTR might have been a good match but a horrible feud even their own hardcore fans agree with that. Cornette was somewhat right by the idea that they can work fans into believing if one of the team was not corporating in the match, which could've actually extended the feud instead of one-off match. But marks think "dream match" is better than actual feud with story, is the reason why AEW has been stagnant for months
@@johnnyhammitt4543I mean they hated the Punk/Drew/Seth promo from RAW, because he plugged Cornette's podcast, so they had to fit Cornette in this list somehow
@@garrymclaughlan6433 no one is talking about AEW? We're talking about what cultures hate boner for Cornette while they've done nothing in the business.
That was the original storyline. Lawler actually called him "queer" and another word which I won't type, during a promo. But Vince later toned-down the gimmick
The headlock thing was not what Heyman was talking about. He said if he gave the headlock to Henry as a finish. No one else should be using the headlock, and how to build the move and get it over. Not that Henry should use the headlock
That's exactly what I was thinking! Like that's not even close to Russo style booking, and knowing the fact Cornette hates the young bucks and praises FTR, it makes sense why he said they should sandbag them. I don't think Jim was fully serious, just taking shots at the Bucks. Russo would have had something on a damn pole for that fued🤣
worst idea is the undertaker losing in wrestlemania and his streak is broken, i mean it is the ONLY wrestling achievement that was marked by legit sports news/websites, can u imagine anything more stupid than end the streak and ruin it? yeah i can't
The Bobby storyline would have worked. He said he wanted to highlight depression and what it took to get out of it. It would have been a decent storyline.
The ideas were the same business exposing stuff that Cornette routinely complains and rants about others doing. Let's have Regal and Benoit really hit each other, because it shows their hatred is real unlike every other wrestlers' matches. Let's have FTR stiff and sandbag the Bucks for nine minutes, because that will make the fans wonder if FTR refused to play their part in their fake match. Heck, the latter is just a retread of Russo having Jarrett lay down for Hogan...
What culture hates Jim cornette he’s one of the greatest minds in this business have some respect 🫡 better than what TK can come up with as bucks Vs FTR was a let down as
I would like to clarify 1 thing about Radke being "hated".. it's pretty much only gatekeepers n those people who are offended by everything n wanna cancel everyone for everything from 💩 that makes sense to be canceled for to mispronouncing someone's name by accident.. most fans of the genre either are fans of his or just don't care about him
Name the video "10 Worst Ideas That Actual WRESTLERS Came Up With", have half of the entries not even be wrestlers. Why I got a feeling that Gareth made this video just so he can talk shit about Biscoff and Cornette for criticizing AEW. The fact he's wearing an AEW t-shirt gives his true intentions away.
@@dhenderson1810 A genuine critique and being salty are two different things, thins is something you have to understand. The guy in the video made no critique, he just lightly derided Jim in a snide, petty way.
That “Hardcore Holly never loses” idea reminds me of Kurt Angle’s request to Paul Heyman, that if he signed with ECW he could never lose a match. Heyman had to inform Kurt that’s not exactly the way pro wrestling works.
The "Upward Spiral Match" sounds stupid. But it isn't the worst idea Jeff Hardy has come up with. That's still the Immortal Belt. The only positive that this monstrosity of a Championship Design had is that the next TNA World Heavyweight Championship belt, which was already a significant upgrade, looked even better.
Yeah Jeff is the perfect example why giving creative control too wrestler's is a terrible idea. He seems too not be able too "read the room" Remember just because you're , technically, creative doesn't mean your creativity is a benefit
Ironically, i actually think Russo’s pitch for the invasion (with Scott Hall entering Raw through the crowd to ask for his job back) was a bit more creative than Cornette’s pitch, but you’re also not given Cornette credit for the idea for the idea he did pitch. Particularly with the worked shoot Benoit stuff, this wasn’t Jim pulling a WCW 2000 and just openly saying things weren’t in the script, but more similar to what they’re doing right now with the Rock in his final boss role, which is use the real life shit people already know and, without beating you over the head with it, use the real life tensions to create the illusion that you might see real conflict playing out on screen. All you’ve gotta do is look at the lore of stuff like Goldberg and Regal or more recently Charlotte and Nia to see that question of an on screen shoot will create a buzz in the right context, and with something like WWF vs WCW you don’t have to stretch too hard to sell people on the notion that there might be real life bad blood.
There a huge difference what Cornette pitched only makes sense for online fans in the know. The rock stuff is public knowledge and the crowd turned on him, so they are just playing along with it.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Disagree. The whole appeal behind the Invasion in the first place (and the Invasion PPV drew a pretty good number in spite of everything) was that the companies were at war for years. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to draw the conclusion that there might be some genuine bad blood between the two companies, and as much as I liked the programming of the time period, Cornette’s set it up much better than the programs around hugs, songs, and other comedic. Edit: This is without considering the fact that worked shoots had been done successfully at the time in a manner that got over outside of the online world. The whole reason the nWo was successful was that WCW was able to work people into believing that WWF guys were invading the company for real and attacking people (with some scenes being so believable that people were calling the police during some of the attacks). For me personally, I wasn’t reading the dirt sheets at age 12, but when HBK collapsed on Raw and all the announcers went silent, it wasn’t a hard sell to believe that this one incident within the context of a worked show might have been the real deal, and they were able to do that without burying the rest of the program. People focus on one poorly done stretch in WCW 2000 and paint worked shoots with a broad brush, but trying to get people to believe that what you see is real is the essence of what wrestling is supposed to be. It’s all in how you do it.
@@ThecallmemisterajpPart of the problem with the Invasion storyline, no matter who pitched it or what version, was that Goldberg, Rey Mysterio, Sting and other heavy hitters wouldn't join WWE straight away. If those guys joined in 2001, you would get a much better Invasion angle.
Ronnie isn't as hated as he used to be. Keep in mind both times a stalker broke into their house he restrained them until the police got there. He's also recently toured with Hollywood Undead, a band that had to fire his friend and their initial clean vocalist Deuce.
@@leaderofnoone9087 I suspect this list started as a "things Corvette advocated for that he's now bashing our beloved AEW for doing, the hypocrite" list and then added actual angle ideas (that aren't even all that wild tbh, apart from the Goldust one that's been discussed to oblivion by now) to make it seem legitimate. Yet another WC list where the actual list doesn't actually match the title.
@@achimsinn6189 to be honest I agree with you. But we live in a world where Cornette vs Hayman happened on a pay-per-view. Hayman pin Jeff Hardy on a pay-per-view. Bishop best Ric Flair and challenge for the WWE championship once. So no wonder what culture called them wrestlers.
@@abadenoughdude300 All I was saying was that Whatculture is technically right, by calling all three men pro wrestlers. Because all three men have competed in pro wrestling matches. It's like calling CM Punk a MMA fighter for example. You are technically right by saying that, but most people don't consider CM Punk a MMA fighter, and that's all I'm trying to say. Whatculture is technically right, when they said Bishop Cornette and Heyman are pro wrestling.
Gotta remember that Heyman tried talking him out of it because of safety but couldn't. Took Terry Funk talking about his dad not drawing to get it to Dreamer.
Bischoff and Cornette were wrestlers? In ring performers maybe, but wrestlers, no. Admit it they're only in here because Tony Khan had another meltdown at Bischoff, and this is your way to take his side while also dumping on one of his biggest detractors. You're never escaping the AEW shills accusations lol
@@dustinrettig3652 - Jim Cornette isn't and he still had two entries here. Maybe, this should have been named, "10 Worst Ideas That Actual Wrestling Personalities Came Up With", or something.
I could have dreamt this but didn't Stevie Richards idea involve Triple H issuing an open challenge for his WWF title and Stevie on his debut answer the challenge and beat the Game!?! Was this a pitch or am I wrong??
Actually the Gold Dust Gimmick was Dustin's Idea he pitched it to Vince and then Vince agreed and according to Dustin then Vince said what did I just agree to. Dustin said he originally pitched Gold Dust to separate himself from his father who he was not speaking to at the time. I am not saying all the Gold Dust creative was Dustin but the character was Dustin's Idea not Vinces according to Dustin in a interview.
Dustin said in plenty of other interviews that Vince pitched him a character named Goldust and described it as Androgynous. Dustin agreed not knowing what that word meant, and he looked it up only to horrified. But the character was initially meant to just meant to wear make up, it was Dustin to do the gold paint
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Yeah went back and realized I misunderstood the interview as I read it on a site. Found a video interview and realized I had read it wrong.
@@JohnWilliams-wl9pxI think the gold paint was because Goldust was meant to be like a giant Oscar, a giant Academy Award statuette, as Goldust was a movie huff, and the figure on Oscars is adroganous. Goldust was one large Academy Award come to life.
4:50 - After enough time having to hear from both of those old windbags, I start to get the impression that Jim doesn't hate Russo because they're too different, they hate each other because they're extremely similar.
Switched this video off when you said unlike Tony Khan, Bischoff only had one original idea. Revisionist history at it's best. Tony Khan has had zero original ideas as a booker.
Bischoff differs from Tony Khan in one thing.. he actually BEAT WWE for a while instead of spending hundreds of millions of dollars to get smashed every week by NXT lmaoooo
This might be a terrible idea but I was at the WWE house show in NH last night and Zelina Vega and Michin was a fun duo. They triple tagged with Bianca against Damage CTRL and it was a riot.
I thought he had mostly.. last I heard he was doing fine, I think he.might of had a minor injury or something recently but I haven't heard any talk of addiction or anything in several months.
