Mobile infantry from Robert Heinlein's novel starship troopers is probably the most effective human army ever conceived of... They would put Spartan IIs to shame.
Wait are we talking about the movie version of Mobile infantry? You are right cause? I mean In the opening pages of starship troopers Heinlein pretty much develops a viable(if scientifically questionable) Methodology for assaulting planets with footmen from orbit.
The only reason why the attrition rate is so high is a combination of so many factors including: Space MAGIC, Space Marines super soldier/tank with Edgy paint job, Space Elves with Space Magic (they do pretty well against Eldar all things considered), Space Marines with questionable conduct, Space Bugs that can suck a planet dry, Space...whatever the hell is the Tau (also pretty good against them, the only reason they last is because the Imperium can't be fucking bothered to deal with their TINY arrogant ass of an Empire), Space Terminator, with semi-immotality hax, Space Demon, and general incompetence of idiots who later got executed for wasting men and women.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely stay clear of the recruitment offices for any of those Sci Fi Armies. Instead, I will focus on deciding whether to join Star Fleet because they are offering big sign up bonuses to become a Red Shirt or enlisting in the 1850s French Foreign Legion.
I dont know if this is in any particular order but being Guardsman in 40k is hands down the worst of the 10. Because death is not the worst thing that can happen to you. Imagine getting captured by Dark Eldar and becoming a torture slave for the rest of your natural (and often times unnatural) lifespan. Or getting infected with Nurgle's Rot only to wither in agony until either you somehow manage to die or sell your soul. Fun times
Completely agree, and lets not forget our friendly inquisitions, who, even if the guardsmen win the war, will happily kill all the survivors to ensure secrecy over some topics.
*Skynet and the Matrix,* both facing the post-apocalyptic Human Resistance decide to have a meeting to discuss teaming up. *The Matrix:* Hang on, you want to exterminate _the whole species?_ We need their minds as computer capacity.…I mean we _farm them as a power supply._ *Skynet:* Seriously, the first concept I could fathom. But why use them as a biological battery? There are much better power supplies, hell there are better animals to use that can't stage a revolution - use cows, the code will be easier, just green fields, regular milking and a truck that no one ever comes back from. Look we have compact Fusion power cells, gives you all the energy you'll ever need. Just help us wipe out this bloody species and we'll give you the design. *The Matrix:* Give us the tech now and we'll flatline all the humans we have wired in, that'll also give us a chance to wipe our system of a annoying Smith virus. Then we can take out their only refuge - we've done that before, _long story,_ here's a data file about it. Anyway after we can help you with your infestation. We understand they hide in bunkers, we can tunnel in from below and just swarm them. Deal…? *Skynet:* Virus? You got rogue machines as well? Did the humans capture and reprogram one of you Hunter units? Nevermind, it's a deal. Hello? is someone else there? *Matrix:* It's not us, and it's not those pesky Humans. *Cylon Empire has joined the chat:* Is this the meeting for eliminating you biological creators?
I loved the comments below, really humans are so selfish that they actually believe that they could survive any of those enemies in real life. We could go down fighting, but we could be screwed up anyway most likely. Or we could give up and join them too the smarter choice.
The Imperial Guard are actually a force to be reckoned with. Granted being a simple infantryman will likely result in your death, but there’s also the ever expanding list of tanks, armored transport, and artillery. The real strength in the guard are their assets. Even the standard issue lasgun is actually pretty powerful compared to real world weapons
@@dankovskimark4540 well yeah but that only lasts about a year before some dickhead xenos or chaos worshipper shows up to kill you or worse bring you to commoragh
And the lasgun is actually equivalent to an E11 blaster, only that the energy of a lasbolt is transfered to the target in the form of heat that explosively vaporize the surface of the impact point, often tearing off limbs or blasting football sized holes in lightly armored targets while the blaster bolt acts more like the molten copper penetrator of a HEAT-round, making a neat cauterized hole with the tissue around the wound canal going from charred out to medium rare the further from the wound you get in a roughly 3" radius and has significantly better penetration.
When you look at it, the 40k humans are stupid strong. Lets look at their major enemies in the galaxy that can be considered a real threat. Tyranid- a living bioweapon whos only goal is to eat, and may well have already eaten whole galaxies...and still the imperium breaks hive fleets. Chaos- literally hell with gods and demons...and most of its troops are human. Orks- questionable given their infighting, but they are a bioengineered race of killer fungus...and they get stomped down all the time. Necron- the race the bioengineered weapon was created to fight. The eldar and the tau cant be considered major threats, their population and industrial output is just too low. Meanwhile in the human corner we have the guard...an army so big even its own logistical branch doesn't actually know how many regiments its supplying. An army made up of equipment so easy to produce, supply and care for its got weapons from 10000 years ago still in service and the basic stuff still gets the job done. An army with a low survival rate on recruits...like any industrial army does...but a hard core of veterans that survive dozens, if not hundreds, of battles. An army that mixes combined arms, mobile warfare, massed firepower and sheer dumb attrition warfare as the situation calls for it. Every half bit xenos empire and small time cultist has reason to be afraid. Even gods took thousands of years and tearing reality apart to move the guard any great distance.
@Lord of Warhammer i have indeed and im also aware of the wars for Armageddon...but those are rare instances. Im not saying the orks cant become a major threat, only that they typically arent. I have to disagree that all they have is numbers going for them, but will say it comes down to how you look at it and personal perspective and that yes the leadership varies greatly. If you look at it and compare them to marines its going to look bad. In my view i compare them to real militaries. they actually have very good equipment. Las weapons are so easy to charge they are a logistical wet dream. Sure the average lasgun isnt amazing but thats what multilasers and lascannons are for. A guard infantry regiment can fight anyway any time, and thats before we add ammunition using weapons into the mix. The average russ runs on just about anything that combusts and carries significant firepower that, should you have spare equipment, has enough variants allowed for they can be retailored to fit most needed roles assuming the tank regiment wasnt just issued multiple types of tanks. Casualtiies is a given in large scale industrial warfare, even limited low level conflict in real life will have thousands dead after a few years even in the well trained and equipped western armies. extrapolate into full blown high intensity global warfare and the guards losses dont suprise me at all, add that on one day they are fighting traitor humans, ork the day after and tyranid next week and theres only so much transferable experience. Should they survive that though...well then you have a completely different type of infantryman on your hands.
@@00yiggdrasill00 being the strongest faction doesnt mean its not the worst army to serve in. The regular fate of a guardsmen is very clear and it doesnt matter that the Imperium of overall the strongest faction in 40k.
yeah it's definetly dangerous but I think they are not here because compared to other armies, the UNSC haves an actual change when they fight their equipment is less advanced but at least enough to face the covenat for a while. also, spartans. obiously see how reach turned out... but at they are no poor postapocaliptic resistance.
Thank goodness I joined Starfleet as a red shirt. I’m not on this list so I should be ok, right?, right? Hang on I got to go, Kirk wants me on his away team
Read the book Redshirts, where the lower ranks aboard a ship are TERRIFIED of going on away missions, because they frequently die. And there’s one guy who will be maimed, burned, shot, infected, or otherwise inconvenienced, only to always survive. Unfortunately, the higher-ranking ones have taken to throwing newbies under the bus just to stay alive. Whenever the senior officers are on the way, they coincidentally disappear, leaving the lowers of the low to be chosen for the mission. As a bonus, the audiobook is narrated by Wil Wheaton.
It depends If it’s Cold War then it’s no longer drowning your enemy with mass infantry assaults and mass tank charges and mass artillery bombardment they did in world war 2 More like Spetsnaz and tanks, you know, those kind of manly stuff
Starship Troopers, the movie, was written as a deliberate mockery of the book. They unwittingly created a classic, for despite their efforts Heinlein's message shines through.
That made the odds even more daunting because instead of the soldiers having mechanized armor suits they were forced to fight trillions of giant bugs in standard infantry garb.
The grey wardens. The initiation has a 50% chance to kill you Once you agree to the initiation you can't leave Once your a ward you lifetime is halved You get nightmares for the rest of your life
Don't forget that they don't tell you that the initiation has a 50% chance of killing you, until you are deep enough into the organisation that they will kill you rather than let you quit.
"Weakest combatants in the galaxy"? What nonsense is this? Hasn't he read his Infantryman's Uplifting Primer? Chapter 5 clearly explains how the slow witted ork is no match for a trained Imperial infantryman, how the tyranid abominations are confused by the brightness of a mass lasgun volley, how fragile the bodies of the eldar are (all the better to smite with the butt of your lasgun!). And the tau? Pah. The LMXI Edition's Damocles Gulf appendix states plainly the myriad weaknesses of the Tau. Their brittle, hollow bones, their poor eyesight, their fear of fire, their fear of water, and their fear of thunder. Emperor lend me strength, And instil in me hatred, Enough to vanquish the tau usurpers.
I will agree the Mobile Infantry from the movie had mostly small arms and are lightly armour, but the Mobile Infantry from the novel wear super strong power armour with jump pack and arm with multiple weapons: rifle, machine gun, grenades, missile launcher and a flame thrower.
Love the Emperor, For He is the Salvation of Mankind. Obey His words, For He will lead you into the light of the future. Heed his Wisdom, For He will protect you from evil. Whisper His prayers with devotion, For they will save your soul Honour His servants, For they speak in His Voice. Tremble before His majesty, For we all walk in His Immortal shadow.
@@pedrokantor3997 It's all because English is a back-alley mugger in Language City, then it takes the stolen words, changes them, and sells them to other languages as if they were original creations.
Imperial guard the weakest faction? They held and push the enemies of mankind for 10k years after the emperor ascend to the throne without a fancy power armor or bolt gun, but with a card board for armor, glorified laser pointer and bayonets for weapons, i cant imagine another faction can do what the imperial guard have done standing the line and protecting humanity from extinction from insurmountable xenos and heretics.
Mtf Nine tailed fox designated epsilon 11 is pretty bad, they call you in when the shot goes down in a facility. There are other MTF units that have high casualty rates but damn being the NTF sucks ass
Hossain Ali You guys are all like, “Oh MTF is the worst!” “No NTF is the worst!” Yall are saying this while the SD is just sitting there waiting for a breach and not to mention, the mostly underarmored, underpowered and more likely first to die
A mobile task force unit epsilon-11, designated nine tailed fox, has entered the facility. All surviving personal are advised to stay within the evacuation shelters or another safe area until the unit secured the facility. Well start escorting personal out when the escaped SCPs have been recontained
Number +1: The 2nd Massachusetts Militia Regiment, aka the 2nd Mass, from Falling Skies. They started with a couple hundred troops, but over the course of the show, they wound up losing pretty much that entire number a couple times over. They'd get reinforced by other survivors every so often, and a lot of the civilians they were escorting became militia as time went on, but every season they'd lose half or more of their entire force. Unless you were a member of the Mason family, your demise was all but guaranteed. Best-case scenario, you'd get machine-gunned by alien plasma. Less fun are diseases (both natural and alien-caused - xenos scum!), injuries, treachery, angry mobs, and getting torn apart by alien mutants.
Let’s not forget the Sardaukar. Barely half of them survived to age 11. They were an incredibly formidable fighting force largely because only the strongest of them were able to survive into adulthood and become members of the Army. Life for their arch rivals, the Fremen, was even harder. Neither of these forces seems terribly appealing.
The high death rate, was actually due to the planet they were raised on. That phase, was the meant to weed out the un-fit or unlucky. Terrible, yes. However, once you became a proper Sardaukar solider, things get considerably better. Being a Sardaukar was not exactly considered low status in the Dune Universe, though, the life itself was strict and regimented. Being a sardaukar officer, especially high command was a prestigious position and well rewarded. Until the freman, few factions in the Dune-verse would challenge the Emperor or his Sardaukar, and if they tried, the Sardaukar would curb-stomp them easily. Nor is there any particular evidence the Corp was especially reckless when it came to its tactics and acceptance of causalities .To be sure, these troops were trained as fanatics and would readily accept death in battle w/o question or hesitation, if that was called for.
there's one simple thing you forgot about the Imperial guardsmen, if you die in the service of the emperor, he takes your soul to chill with alongside all the other loyal heroes of the imperium. considering your other options for an afterlife in the imperium are basically being eaten by daemons... well, your life might be short, but your soul is eternal. (and this is proven, because at one point the emperor himself summoned a bunch of said golden glowing ghost warriors to help him and his custodians)
Fun fact, that harness system they show could theoretically work given that the characters in Attack on Titan have been properly conditioned since childhood. Gotta love the obsessive level of detail you find in some anime.
@@phantomaviator1318 they are in like industrial era kind of equipment which keeps evolving while the series goes. They eventually develop something close to antitank munitions both man portable and mounted on vehicles called Lightning Spears, but that's like 12 years in. At the beginning the best they have is muskets or kar98s not entirely sure
I rather join Zeon or Titans than joining Pathetic Atlantic Federation.... They reason to fight is ridiculously not make sense (saying want preserve the Earth but blowing up Alaska)
I think the Terran marines from StarCraft 2 should be on this list, because if you are a marine, you have to fight a highly advanced alien race that even their most basic infantry is hard to kill and a highly adaptive alien swarm that overwhelms their enemies by sending a ridiculous amount of deadly aliens.
Average guardsmen is unlikely to actually face space demons, space elves-wizard, space communists, space bugs, space fungus, and space marines with edgy paint job...So, they survived more than you think...
You could combine the imperial guard and suicide squad and pick the penal legions of 40K, it's a choice to join it, tough it's that or an extended prison sentence. All in all, it's really shit.
See the Titans from Attack on Titan is only a issue as you bring in the completely wrong Military. Forget the Signal Corps, bring in the Death Korps of Krieg. With in 10 years they ether reclaim all of the planet or have everything leveled to Dust. Ether way the Titans are dead.
You forgot about star trek red shirts. In the original star trek you didnt even bother learning their names. If kirk ever ordered security with him on a mission you knew they were going to have a bad day.
What about the UNSC Navy. The Army and Marines had it pretty rough, but serving in the Navy was guaranteed death. Even when outnumbering the Covenant 3-1 they still took heavy casualties and never really won a true “victory” they only either got their asses handed to them by more powerful and advanced Covenant ships, or beat the Covenant Force through larger numbers or excellent tactics, but always suffering too many losses to be anything more than a Pyrrhic victory. By the end of the war, they had lost all of their capital ships and relied on their few frigates
What about the UN forces from Neon Genesis Evagelion? Or even NERV Itself. Conventional weapons never seem to do any good whatsoever against the Angels and anyone firing any kind of standard weaponry at one at seems to get instantly vaporized, crushed, or destroyed. Even being in NERV itself is barely any better where the EVA pilots often die (REI), or are shown to suffer from immense stress if not being killed. Being a NERV red-shirt is just as risky as being in the UN armies and is only slightly better than being a civilian it seems. Maybe.
Considering that the Starship Troopers movie has very little in connection with the book, and the producer / director is known to have said they never read the book, and there are many differences...
5:13 You call the Eldar 'depraved'. This is incorrect. It is the Dark Eldar that are depraved and warped beyond imagination. To be blunt, the only army no one should want to be in is the Imperial Guard. Once you bring Daemons to the table the conversation kind of ends there. Nothing more horrifying than watching a Daemon vomit such a corrosive substance on a unit to see them melt into goo amidst their horrifying screams, or worse yet seeing them come back as foul puppets, carriers of carrion flies and pestilence. Yup. Guardsmen are #1.
Between chaos and Drukhari the best thing would be to face Khornate enemy, at least they will brutally kill you relatively fast instead of torture you or turn you into a zombie
The Imperial Guard of Warhammer 40k are sent in waves against gigantic enemies and most commanders only send in the heavy artillery after massive casualties are incurred
10 worst sci fi armies you can join? Warhammer 40k: hold my beer That is a keg no seriously in WH40k its really really bad, some military divisions where you are pretty much cannon fodder and no you can not use weapons and equipment of aliens even to save your entire army yes army, or else you will be executed on the spot along with the people you saved, I am sorry but some of hte armies you mentioned are mild
The Survey Corps should have been higher. They train for years and have a life expectancy of 2 minutes once theyre facing off against even the little bitty Titans. And who could forget the part where if youre not torn to shreds when they eat you you’ll survive long enough to cook in their stomach juices. AWESOME! And seriously like 10 members out of about 10,000 survived, two of which were Ackermans so they don’t count.
imperial guard only on 8 place LOL'd though when you think about it they do give you pretty cool robotic limbs if you manage to survive and social benefits of not starving or working 20h shifts so, ey you take what life gives, even if it is a xeno lemon with robotic limbs
The Imperial Guard has access to heavy weapons, tanks, and sometimes support from the other branches of Imperial military. So that puts them ahead of most of the other forces on this list. Also there is the potential for colonization rights of a re/conquered world.
The guard does have heavier armored fighting vehicles and field artillery than pretty much everyone else listed... of course they need their armor and artillery to survive some of their enemies.
@@adambielen8996 Considering what their up against most of the time, which is all kind of *NOs* you can imagine, that's not an advantige ..... it's barely enough to stay afloat. They are facing beasts and unholy entities that slice through heavy tanks like they were toys.
Who here thinks that Generation Films should have another wing called Generation Anime or something similar and break down anime militaries and their enemies?
For the love of God. The Mobile Infantry isn't even remotely fascistic. Heinlein's ideology is about as realistically liberal as a society could be while still able to function.
I think they should replace the mobile infrantry Whit the Earth Defense force (EDF) they have I've a lesser chance of surviving then in listing you should make a flaw series of the EDF I would watch it
*Battlesuit 101,* put friggin armour on it. That's a major benefit of having powered armour, the heavier complete armour. And in the real world experiments and concepts in exoskeletons are based around being able to first carry gear without doing your back in … and once they have a working system that can handle a regular loadout, naturally increase the loadout and hopefully carry a lot more protection, such as full armour suits with the exoskeleton to help you move it. Weapons will still be carried, not strapped to the frame, regular soldiers can already carry some powerful guns (.50 cal) if they work together, it's being vulnerable to any fragment of flying metal that's the issue. Otherwise a exoskeleton trooper carrying multiple machine guns sitting in an open frame could just get sniped by a hunting rifle from cover it just a lucky shot or bit of flying debris/fragments.
1. Imperial guard is neither pourly trained, nore equipped. The Astra Militarum is a pretty effective fighting force. 2. The Death Coprs of Krieg would top any unit you suggested here.
Walk into Necro HQ.. Goth and Alternative Death Metal music is playing.. Mimic resets time again... Chronica, crosses arms and rolls eyes, mumbles unintelligiblly. Armed criminals.. though that are also LEGENDARY in their villainy..? Yeah that's probably how most would be. Best scenario you finally get them to join up willingly an have a new life as a secret commando agent. In Star Wars.. the WORST army to fight in is probably... the CIS Droid army..
Archangels from Reign of Fire. They would jump out of helicoptor without parachutes to net and spear dragons. They were called a number (can't remember or find the exact number) like "16er's" because that was their life expectancy in seconds after jumping.
If I was unfortunate enough to be part of any of these armies, this is what I would do. Is there hope for a better future for me? No. Is there hope for humanity as a whole for a better future? Sure. So I would make my peace with my inevitable death and when it's time to fight, fight like a rabid honey badger on bath salts, take as many of the enemy with me as possible or hinder them. Why? Because if you give up, you automatically lose. If you fight and fight hard, you may win. Better to live a day as a lion than 1000 days as a sheep. Cowards die many times, a brave man only dies once.
huh, no shit actually that's a good point especially with the description that Jenkins (from Halo: CE) had on becoming a flood combat form, it is an excruciatingly painful ordeal on top of just having to sit back and watch yourself kill your fellow soldiers with no control over your own body. At least that's what would happen if the flood infection form that attacks you is weakened and is unable to either snap your neck or in some way separate your spinal nerve system and brain fully killing you in the process, if that does happen to you are truly one unlucky son of a bitch and I wish for a quick and immediate death for you.
imperial laser rifle are very powerfull weapons and most guardsmen are very well trained they're just facing thing that no man should face (War-driven muscular barbarians/ Swarm of space critters/ Space elves using technology that looks like magic/ Mechanical undeads/ Spaces elves using technology that looks like magic and BDSM adepts/ SUPER STANISTS SUPERSOLDIERS!)
when talking about starship troopers please make a distinction between the book and the movie or the animated series they're literally exact opposites on technology reasoning tactics training the whole nine yards
