(1080p) ROF Sopwith Camels, Spads & Albatross (Big dogfights with 20+ planes) 

Live to fight another day! There's quite a few stories of airmen from both sides being captured and being treated very well, even enjoying their time with the enemy. I think that flying itself was so difficult that just about every pilot had great respect for anyone else who managed to keep a plane in the air. Thanks for watching!

​@@Soknik01 It also probably had something to do with the fact that WWI was essentially the last "old-world war;" though it had rifles and artillery, it was obviously like it was still the 18th and 19th centuries, and the belligerents were still 18th-19th-century warlord states, with armies of ye-olden peasants and knights far-removed from the politics at the top. I'd imagine that most anyone who survived being captured was treated, if nothing else, at least as a human being.

Jacob Aubertin that's almost exactly how it went though my language was a bit more colorful. 🤣

Lymanity In a word... AWSOME! With HEADPHONES THE ENGINE AND WEAPONS SOUNDS FRIGGEN SPECTACULAR! Good cinephotography as well! And the SLO-MOTION REPLAYS... FANTASTIC!

Lymanity get a gamer pc, they’re having so much fun! Don’t forget xplane and dcsworld!🚁✈️🕹

But can I do a “plane roll with camera” option in RoF?

You're correct. I often will fire on the wings because they present the biggest target when viewed from the angles I most frequently attack from. When following a plane in a tight turn, the front plane exposes the whole top of his wings to the guns of the pursuit plane. The same is true when you're diving down on a target for some boom and zoom action- Assuming you're able to lead the target with your gunfire, from that angle of attack the wing is such a nice juicy target. As someone without the steady hand of a more talented pilot, I find my success rate tends to be higher if I focus on the biggest target possible, but if you watch videos from truly elite pilots like IRFC Requiem you'll see endless examples of him sending 6 rounds directly into the enemy cockpit, ending the fight before his target had any chance to respond. Thanks for watching!

PotPotatoe Thank you for the kind comment. The truth is that I've just stalled so many times that I no longer have to think about how to recover from it lol. If you want to see the proper technique for recovering from the corkscrew in the camel, check out a RU-vid video by IRFC Requiem called "Camel Spins". His instructional videos are fantastic and in terms of pilot skill he's light-years ahead of me.

The higher up didn't want them to leave the plane to early,?

I was practicing using a snap roll to put the plane into a controlled spin. As you can see I was still in the early stages of mastering the technique at the time of this video 😆. Search for a video titled "Snap Roll" by a RU-vidr by the name of IRFC Requiem. He does a fantastic job of showing how it's done and why it's such a powerful option under the right conditions. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!

You may not know this but - hang·er ˈhaNGər/noun 1. a person who hangs something. "a wallpaper hanger" 2. a shaped piece of wood, plastic, or metal with a hook at the top, from which clothes may be hung in order to keep them in shape and free of creases.

Hanger is what you’ve got in your wardrobe. You park your plane in a hangar.

Why no parachutes? Pilots could not bail?

@@laurenspivack1903 They could bail out fine, but the apparent issue with chutes is that they are bulky and weighty, and would encourage pilots to abandon their planes (at least this was the thinking in the early war and RFC). The germans eventually gave their pilots parachutes, then the french, americans, and brits gave their pilots chutes

People were buying heroine and opiates over the counter, women couldn't vote, young children frequently were forced to drop out of school and work full time under horrible conditions, people routinely died from infections, the streets were filled with horse crap, almost nobody had access to indoor plumbing and black Americans were frequently terrorized by the KKK. Hell, the average life expectancy in 1918 was 39 years. You're romanticizing an era that was truly hell for most who lived through it.

@Soknik01 Back in a 1926 Cleveland, Ohio, our American ancestors didn't legalize marijuana in those days. The American Jew named Sam told the Puerto Rico teenager not to plant marijuana in the garden, knowing that he didn't want him to go to prison for it. This story appears in Robert Fleischmann's small thin paperback book called Seedfolks. 🪴 🌱 🌿 🌾 🌵 🏵 🪴 🇵🇷 ✡️ 😍 👌 ♥️ 😳 🙌 ✡️

Awesome. I hope you find countless hours of enjoyment in rise of flight. When you get up and running give me a shout and I'll explain how joystick input curves can be adjusted in the game to help make flying a much easier task to tackle. Thanks for watching :) Oh... One last thing. The Spad XIII that comes with the game- if you learn to energy fight with it you'll find it to be close to untouchable. Absurdly fast plane with a crazy rate of climb and literally nothing in the game can touch it in a high speed dive. Just stay fast and don't get suckered into a turn fight with it and you're good to go.

Soknik01 ... so there are planes that do not come with the game ?? and u fight against planes that dont come wth the game ??

+Shaw Rosowitsch in free for all Mode u can fly two planes, one for allied and one for germans, if u want to play more than those two u have to buy it first.. about 5$ per plane ;)

+Shaw Rosowitsch oh and there are some dlc packs on stem, all of them together costs like 190$ :P

Szop Pracz O_O thats a crsitmas present all in 1

Thanks man. I appreciate the friendly comment. :)

To be honest the left turns are just a result of having to follow the enemy. The camel has a slightly harder time turning left than it does right due to the spinning rotary engine torquing the camel in the opposite direction. The albatross pilots are trying to gain an edge by forcing the camel to follow them through the more difficult counter clockwise turn as opposed to letting the camel chase them to the right where it has a considerably easier time staying stable and balanced.

Soknik01 You have it backward, The Sopwith's (Pup and Camel) had engines that turned counter-clockwise (From the pilots perspective). They turned easier to the left than the right due to the torque. A Sopwith could turn 270 deg. to the left faster than it could turn 90 deg. to the right. Torque turns the same direction as the engine, not opposite.

Michael Copeland Nope I'm dead on. Yes the engine turns counter clockwise from the pilots perspective but it does so by having the mass of the spinning engine rotate around a stationary shaft bolted to the airframe which in turn caused the plane to want to roll right in the direction opposite the propellers rotation. The camel can turn much faster to the right since trying to turn with the rotation of the engine forced you to fight the gyroscopic effect trying to roll the airframe in the opposite direction the engine was spinning. The result of attempting to turn with the engines rotation is that the torque pulls the nose of the aircraft up quite a bit if you are not prepared to compensate for it by bringing the nose below the horizon line prior to initiating the left turn. I'll do my best to illustrate why a rotary engine rotating one way causes the plane to roll the opposite direction. Imagine you have a miniature sopwith camel in a vacuum suspended above ground with no air resistance. The engine is rotating at full speed and the plane stays level. Now to simulate the friction of air against that rapidly spinning propeller by placing the tip of your finger so that the propeller touches your finger each time a blade passes by. What happens to the body of the plane? It wants to roll or rotate opposite the propeller. If we took this idea to the extreme, imagine applying even more friction to the propeller blades by actually grabbing them in your hand so tightly that they could no longer spin. What would the torque of that working engine do to the airframe? It would spin the body of the plane in the opposite direction. In fact if you can find one of those old balsa wood toy planes that used a rubber band you would twist up to power the plane you can immediately get a fantastic visualization of how this all works. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video.

Well, you've got a better rig than the one used to record this video. Have you made sure to turn down the anti-aliasing, turn off any supersampling as well as optimize any graphics settings in AMD Catalyst?

It wasn’t a huge spelling error so he probably didn’t mind, why are you so mad about it

Christopher...Most exactly, again!!

This was a custom offline battle. I do have quite a few videos from multiplayer flights on my channel tho. Most of them were taken on either the New wings server or on Syndicate server. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video. :)

...agreed..30cal rounds fired at those velocities can't really do quite that amount of structural damage. Realistically, gas tank fires, engine damage, wounded/killed target pilot would be more realistic. Had been cited/mentioned prior. .

It's called an Anemometer. Now days we just use them to measure wind speed but during WW1 when the planes didn't have insane power the pilots were able to use them to get a fairly accurate idea of their true airspeed.

Actually that small propeller drove an air pump that pressurized the main fuel tank on the camel. This allowed a steady flow of fuel no matter what maneuvers were pulled. The reserve fuel tank was gravity fed.

@@Soknik01 Exactly correct here!! No pitot/static system invented yet to give airspeed, vertical speed indic, etc..

not really, the Clerget9b in the Sopwith Camel created 130HP, the Mercedes D.IIIau in the Albatros D.V put out about 200HP, the difference is you save a ton of weight with a rotary piston engine, a liquid cooled inline engine itself is heavier because it needs more components such as a flywheel, water jackets, ect... then a cooling system is required which requires plumbing and a radiator which can easily also be damaged in combat. a rotary engine is all self cooled, has a all loss lubrication system, and because the block spins it requires no flywheel and the inertial force does a lot of work that some components have to do in a regular inline engine. the Sopwith Camel had a loaded weight of 1,450LB while the Albatros weighed 2,000LB. the advantage is the Sopwith Camel was literally 500LBS lighter loaded, so it didn't need the 70 extra HP the Albatros did, in fact the Sopwith Camel had almost every advantage agents the D.III variant which granted has the 170HP D.IIIa engine, and the D.V was only faster than the Sopwith Camel, the Camel performed better in almost every other aspect except the Albatros had a lot more horsepower.

James A thank you sir!

Yup. Thankfully this isn't an attempt at offering anyone instruction on flying- I dont think there's a single thing in this video that i couldnt have done better at than I did. At this point I had been playing for maybe 3-4 weeks so pretty much everything was a challenge for me at the time.

Primitive airspeed indicator propellers ..no pitot/static system invented yet to help indicate airspeed. Tiny prop attached to a "speedometer cable", connected to an analogue intrument (similar to a speedo. indicator), shows pilot estimated airspeed, not all that accurate. Better than nothing.

Flares? When there's no radio, you gotta make do with signalling like that. I suspect different colors mean different things but I don't know what.

Thats a great question Charles! I wish there were rear view mirrors available in Rise of Flight but unfortunately this idea didn't gain popularity until many years after WW1. I believe the first widespread use of rear view mirrors in fighter planes began during WW2 and continues to this day. The F/A-18E "Super-Hornet" for example is equipped with 3 rear facing mirrors. One above the pilots head and two more mounted on either side of the canopy.

@@Soknik01 Exactly right! Astute answer. In early WWll, RAF Spitfires & Hurricanes had rear-view mirrors mounted on apex of windscreen frame..Makes all the difference in the world, checking to see who's on your ass! !

You can pick up an entry level joystick equipped with a twist axis to operate the planes rudder and a slide for throttle as well. Google "Logitech Extreme 3D Pro" and you'll see the stick I'm referring to. Can usually find it new for around $30 US. Here's the catch - If you enjoy the game you will almost certainly want a better stick ASAP since the Logitech has a very stiff center spring that can make precision aiming a real pain in the ass. If you decide you like the Logitech stick, you'll need a new one in fairly short order anyways since the potentiometers (the sticks position sensors) on the Logitech frequently begin to spaz out and lose their usability within 6-12 months. The next step up from the Logitech stick is going to be a Saitek stick which costs around $130 new which is quite a large jump in price. That's the reason I suggested you test the waters with the cheap stick- If you don't enjoy the game you have only spent a little money as opposed to quite a bit more. If you're patient you can find great deals on used sticks. I picked up my Saitek X52 in perfect condition for $20 from a girl on Craigslist. Her boyfriend pissed her off, and now his stick is mine lol.

if you havent already gotten a stick yet, i would HIGHLY recommend the Thrustmaster T.16000m instead. It uses magnetic sensors and is extremely accurate and precise. It uses the same technology and Thrustmaster's $400 Warthog. Goes for about $50 USD.

In this game, are you adjusting speed by blipping the throttle or does the program provide that effect as you use a slide pot' controller?

carmium Both actually. The camel does have a throttle lever but for the most part I leave it wide open and just blip the rotary off to control engine speed and keep the rpms from climbing too high in a dive. Alternately, you could slide the throttle back and lean out the fuel mixture in a dive to let the engine run non stop without over revving it.

Well I have had my Logitech Extreme 3D Pro for 10 years. Still works perfectly! Don't know what you are talking about with the 6-12 month life span.

All AI except for me. That's why they are so predictable when trying to evade.

Not as much as there used to. still seems to get some love. I personally prefer it to IL-2. But that's mostly because I like Biplanes so much.

​​@@SteelWalrusIl-2 has adopted it as a DLC basically. Same ol' game but with slightly better graphics (though no free demo). Unfortunately the online WW1 community seems to be quite small or dormant.

If I recall correctly this mission had somewhere around 30 enemy pilots and judging by the date I posted this video I dont think I had been flying very long. I'm almost positive at that time I would have still had unlimited ammo enabled. I don't think I started flying without unlimited ammo until around August of 2012. Come to think of it, I don't believe my marksmanship improved at all until I did disable unlimited ammo and was forced to focus on making my shots count.

@@Soknik01 Now, thats the way realistically to do it, ballistically!!

It's due to the camel having a rotary engine. Normally an engine is mounted to the frame of the plane and that engine then turns a shaft that's connected to the propeller to drive the plane. A rotary engine is a whole different animal. Instead it has a shaft bolted to the frame of the plane and the entire engine and all of its mass rotate around the stationary shaft in order to drive the propeller. Since rotary engines have their large mass spinning around a shaft as opposed to the other way around, it creates a large amount of gyroscopic force which ultimately wants to roll and yaw the entire plane in the direction opposite that of the spinning propeller. It also creates a tendency for the nose to want to climb or dive depending on if you're turning with or against the direction of the engines rotation. This makes rotary powered planes quite unstable as the pilot is constantly forced to counteract these gyroscopic forces when flying. In the rotary powered camel you'll come to sense a sort of balance or tipping point that you feel during flight. The plane will give you feedback (tho very subtle) letting you know you're pushing the aircraft close to its limitations. You'll sort of intuitively find ways to adjust your control inputs as you approach this invisible tipping point in order to further extend the planes ability to safely push just a bit beyond what you would expect to be possible. The very moment you exceed that invisible threshold- BAM 3:08 I pushed just a tiny bit too far and the camel bit me in the ass. You'll find in time that the camel and DR1 are flying most effectively when the pilot is able to dance effortlessly up and down that invisible line. When it all clicks for you and your sense of that line suddenly becomes crystal clear, youll be an absolute nightmare for anyone foolish enough to engage in a turn fight against you.

I have noticed the line you are talking about. Thank you for the comprehensive response . With the DR1 i almost never run over that barrier but i blow my engine much more often doesn't matter most of the time because i normally trade 3 to 1 on it.

Ethan Sutton why is this engine stuttering all the time... greets from a pilot of il2. CLIFS OF DOVER WW2.

@@Soknik01 ..Great answer! Hoping those here can intuitively understand all that..Basic Physics! !

Soknik01 Yes, yes, it's hard to fly! :-)) And from that, these rat planes are chosen by amateurs to dial scalps! )) It's really good for Dr1 and a camel to fly quite a few pilots. It's a pity to look at these guys on albatrosses that leave you for a turn ((Poor people, yesterday they loaded the game .... Let's fly with you a series of duels? Only I will not sit on the camel and I will not sit down - basically ignore these planes. I'm on an albatross against a camel, and I'm on a puppy against dr1

Thank you very much. Hope you enjoyed the video. :)

I'm sorry, I don't get your meaning.

Sorry Kiddo. This is a real combat simulator - not some shoot'em up arcade game. You may unload half your ammo into an plane and it will still get away or you may knock it out of the sky with one burst - all depends where you hit it. In real life, planes didn't have health bars and there were no glowing arrows telling you where the enemy was (though THERE IS an option for it in this game) Sorry, but I prefer air combat games where your kills are determined by where you hit the enemy - you may hit the pilot and kill him, you may blow off a wing, or you bay hit its fuel tank and have it burst into flames) Much more exciting then stupid health bars. It's OK though, I am sure you are into games Like Call of Duty that any 3 year old could beat while blindfolded.