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109. HerniaTalk LIVE Q&A: Hernia Mesh Past, Present & Future 

Dr. Shirin Towfigh
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Welcome to HerniaTalk LIVE, a Q&A hosted by Dr. Shirin Towfigh, hernia and laparoscopic surgery specialist who practices at the Beverly Hills Hernia Center. This is the only Q&A of its kind, aimed at educating and empowering patients about all things related to hernias and hernia-related complications. For a personal consultation with Dr. Towfigh, call +1-310-358-5020 or email info@beverlyhillsherniacenter.com.
This week, the topic of discussion was:
- Mesh
- Synthetic Mesh
- Biologic Mesh
- Biosynthetic Mesh
- Incisional Hernia
- Pelvic Mesh
- Mesh Migration
- Mesh Complications
- Surgical Complications
- Hernia Recurrence
- Hernia Database
- Recurrent Hernia Reapir
- Hernia Repair
- Laparoscopic Hernia Repair
Topic: Hernia Mesh Past, Present & Future
Guest Panelist: Dr. Jeffrey Blatnik, Hernia & Laparoscopic Surgery specialist, Washington University, Saint Louis, Missouri
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Комментарии : 64   
@butchfriday
@butchfriday 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for the discussion. I am happy to hear you say when you don’t know. The honesty and humility is refreshing.
@SteelSongbird
@SteelSongbird Год назад
Another perspective.... It's not so simple or easy for patients with CCD, complex chronic disease, to get second opinions in a timely manner. The wait times to consult with surgical specialists can be long and when in high level pain and crushing debility, researching and administrative work can be very difficult to execute. Then waiting months for consults can be miserable and allow disease to progress. Researching screwdrivers while seated in a comfortable position is much different than researching surgical options to save your life while in high level pain.
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 10 месяцев назад
Also, Shouldice method has been practiced since the mid 1940's yet, all the doctors and hospitals who praise themselves at being among the best of the USA, or any other country, still have not applied the Shouldice method when it is right below One Percent failure rate: that is almost like gold standard. Yet, they refuse to develop it. I don't get it, they are suppose to be smart people but, they fail to understand the general public are becoming more and more fed up with people who intentionally hurt or ignore others and this is where doctors and pharmacists are to blame to a large degree. They actually may believe their money or where they live will protect them, well, they have ignored the masses of angry people. I don't condone violence, but I am saying it is amazing how doctors and hospitals ignore the Shouldice method and the growing and growing angry masses. I don't understand that governments don't make the Shouldice method mandatory, giving it some time for ALL hospitals to adapt it. Take care of your people medically, and the people will show courtesy and respect. Peace.
@petergrinsell86
@petergrinsell86 3 месяца назад
I only wanted the blessing made (occult hernias w/ no obvious cause) Now I've been labeled a renegade, It seems so clear now what I must do, you're no immortal, renew belief in some demented myth❤ Critical Thinking & Communication skills are well, critical. I had a mesh installed overtop of another hernia because it was assumed that I only had one hernia although I had the symptoms for years before I was diagnosed. Researching treatment options wasnt really even an option nothing that I could say would change the way that technology & others view me. Treatment options in general being so limited I want able to successfully give much argument about what surgery to do, when, or why, that is preordained by the community which decides what is appropriate & what they consider illegitimate based on their own life experiences. I could have got on social media and conform to the opinions of others but often it would be very difficult or potentially prohibited to talk about science outside of the lens or medicine outside the context of business & economics. It was different during medieval times to ignore relevant points of view on a scientific or cultural phenomenon. We have to think at least consider as users of social media what kind of culture that businesses are promoting and potential intended or unintended effects of our beliefs & practices on consumers, the media, & the state. While people potentially harmed by mesh i.e. patients may be very vocal Im betting proponents of the device i.e. businesses would be equally as vocal or more.
@placiduzzu
@placiduzzu 2 года назад
Great show! Thank you for helping me having more educated opinion on this matter.
@larriveeman
@larriveeman 2 года назад
I think it perfectly acceptable to not know definitively about a procedure or outcome, thats the nature of things sometimes, maybe that's why its called practicing medicine, as long as there is no harm done
@rlwings
@rlwings 11 месяцев назад
There are a lot of reports of negative hernia operation outcomes. Both mesh and open surgery are causing horrible chronic and life-long nerve pain... It's not worth the risk if you can live with your hernia... The 'bad outcomes' figure is probably much higher than being reported... Seriously, don't do it until you have to. (Beyond me why surgeons can't learn to avoid disturbing the three main nerves in the groin area. They're easily viable and identifiable. ) Some surgeons even think it's ok to cut one of the offending nerves in an attempt to stave off nerve pain outcomes... But this is done at the expense of numbness in the groin!! Seriously? You're so afraid of causing chronic pain that you think it's ok to sever the nerve and leave the patient with less feeling inn his sexual organs?? Absolutely ridiculous trade-off! - Nope, they're lying to to you. Hernia operations are hit-and-miss at best and should be avoided at all costs (Until absolutely necessary). Which may never happen if you learn how to stop the progression of the condition. Wearing of belts, altering body movements, etc.
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 11 месяцев назад
The data and world experience refutes your comment that hernia at best is hit or miss. Elective operations are not performed if they are hit or miss. Also, nerves are most often not easily visible or identifiable.
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 10 месяцев назад
Also, Shouldice method has been practiced since the mid 1940's yet, all the doctors and hospitals who praise themselves at being among the best of the USA, or any other country, still have not applied the Shouldice method when it is right below One Percent failure rate: that is almost like gold standard. Yet, they refuse to develop it. I don't get it, they are suppose to be smart people but, they fail to understand the general public are becoming more and more fed up with people who intentionally hurt or ignore others and this is where doctors and pharmacists are to blame to a large degree. They actually may believe their money or where they live will protect them, well, they have ignored the masses of angry people. I don't condone violence, but I am saying it is amazing how doctors and hospitals ignore the Shouldice method and the growing and growing angry masses. I don't understand that governments don't make the Shouldice method mandatory, giving it some time for ALL hospitals to adapt it. Take care of your people medically, and the people will show courtesy and respect. Peace.
@markuse3472
@markuse3472 10 месяцев назад
2. Nerves, like some arteries, are not easily worked-around-with or, viable. However, doctors are along with the mesh or, J&J program and so will continue to destroy people's lives since they have the power to. It's the same with other practices of theirs, and medicine, like Metformin actually damaging the body at the same time as lowering blood sugar: they don't care as long as they are allowed to get away with it. Berberine is likely more effective but it's too expensive for the makers to change their pattern and adapt what Berberine offers. These are not theories, a combined circumstantial body of evidence is astronomical all across the medical field.
@eraven1982
@eraven1982 Год назад
I just had umbilical hernia robotic assisted w/mesh... I twisted like a moron first thing trying to get something and it felt like something broke in there. Nurse said likely just gas, but why the big weird feeling right when I reached and twisted behind me? Idk what kind of mesh either. Wish I found this yesterday. I may have waited and done more research.
@user-gm1uu7dh4q
@user-gm1uu7dh4q 9 месяцев назад
I had laparoscopic inguinal hernia repair (with a mesh) six (6) months [not days/weeks] ago and it has been horrible. My condition is actually worse than before the surgery. The mesh feels like a piece of sandpaper was surgically implanted inside of my body and the area where the hernia was a half year ago is still painful and swollen. My right testicle has been swollen and inflamed and is still approximately 100% larger than my left testicle. My condition is worse because of the pain and aching associated with my testicle being affected as opposed to just the less sensitive abdominal material that would occasionally protrude though my abdominal wall. My condition is affecting my activity level. I cannot walk for extended periods of time before the aching spreads to my lower belly area causing an upset stomach and ultimately headaches. I am dealing with chaffing because of the abnormal size of my right testicle. I can no longer complete a full yoga workout, ride a bike or jog/run and this has caused my physical condition to continually decline since the surgery. I have lost notable muscle mass, flexibility and my energy level is continually lessening. I have found that doctors are more than available to talk about performing surgery, but when it comes to complications secondary to surgery and/or potential medical malpractice necessitating restorative surgery, these same doctors hide in the shadows and are tight lipped about offering aid.
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 8 месяцев назад
Hernia specialists can hekp
@sandraconstantin54
@sandraconstantin54 11 месяцев назад
Apparently there are lots of issues with these meshes. As if hernia actually disappeared from the picture and its all about meshes. It's wrong that lately all hernias are "repaired" with mesh. It should only be used in rare cases after lots of recurrences and where classic surgery is no longer an option for patient. And to be avoided in young people since long term damages can occur. There are lawsuits for a good reason and people started to learn of the dangers, but sadly not from the surgeon. Are surgeons getting any kind of monetary reward from mesh manufacturers? It looks like, since mesh repair is presented as the best option to almost every patient. It should actually be a serious questionnaire where patient's condition, age, knowledge about the both options (with or without mesh) are well understood by patient and the mesh repair to be done only if certain criteria is met. It is easy for surgeon to manipulate a patient into his preference especially when financial gain is involved. I would also not call mesh repair as hernia repair, as the tear is not stitched. It's only a cover of the rupture with a patch. And I don't understand why laparoscopy is recommended to "repair" a hernia, which is easily accessible from outside the abdominal cavity? How can a surgeon say is repairing a rupture of the peritoneum, by puncturing 3 or more holes in the peritoneum (the risk of other internal organs injury can be a plus. I do understand laparoscopy to be a better choice for interventions on organs hard to reach, to avoid large incisions, but the whole surgery -laparoscopy, general anaesthesia with intubation, CO2 introduced in abdominal cavity, chronic pain, inflammation, erosions or even serious damage of internal organs are not at all beneficial to a young patient in a good health and physical condition. It should not be recommended at all for initial repair , to leave the young patient as many chances as possible to deal easily with a potential other needed surgery, where the presence of a mesh might cause difficulties in getting the new surgery. I'm thinking what if a patient with a recent hernia repaired via laparoscopy with mesh, will need an appendicectomy? Another laparoscopy ? Other holes in his peritoneum? Which will increase the risk for other hernias? Would the previously implanted mesh cause difficulties in the new surgery? I hope the option of mesh repair as a choice for initial hernia to be reviewed and offered less frequently.
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 11 месяцев назад
Lots of misguided statements and misinformation here offering a negative perspective: - it is not appropriate to keep doing the same operation (tissue repair) over and over again expect a different result - the consequences of multiple recurrences are devastating to patients. They lead to larger and more unmanageable hernias each time, as recurrences are due to ripping. Try seeing your jacket or pants together each time it rips a seam without using a patch. The size gets smaller and smaller and thus more likely to rip each time. - not sure what your definition is of young people. Mesh is not used in children and majority of teens. - surgeons have no financial gain from placing mesh. If anything, you can argue that reoperating due to recurrences from tissue repairs would be a financial gain. - the tear is stitched for mesh based repairs for most ventral hernias and some inguinal hernias. - hernias are not easily accessible from the outside. For example, in the case of inguinal hernias, there are muscle fibers, fascia and nerves in the way before you can access an inguinal hernia in open fashion. Those are not the case for laparoscopic approach. - puncturing if 3-5-8mm holes for laparoscopic or robotic hernias implies less pain and less hernia risk than one big open incision. - general anesthesia may still be necessary for hernia repair regardless of need for laparoscopic approach - presence of mesh in the groin does not get in the way with most operations one would need in the future - chronic pain, inflammation, erosion, and damage to internal organs are more common with open operations than laparoscopic.
@SolidNate99
@SolidNate99 Год назад
I need to hear from a doc, do you think that no human has ever had a hernia go away natually? Why do you think the body does not repair this area of the body but pretty much any other area?
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
Hernia Symptoms may improve in some patients. Hernia defects do not close without surgery. And it’s not accurate that the body repairs any other area on its own. It doesn’t. Ask any orthopedic surgeon or oncologist.
@SolidNate99
@SolidNate99 Год назад
@@herniadoc I see. I appreciate your response.
@goldberg1174
@goldberg1174 7 месяцев назад
29:00 how small exactly must be the tear? 🧐
@erogel4171
@erogel4171 6 месяцев назад
Hi Dr. Towfigh. do you have any opinion on Phasix reabsorable mesh? dissolves by a year or so. thanks!
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 6 месяцев назад
I don’t see a benefit in using it.
@erogel4171
@erogel4171 6 месяцев назад
ini your opinion what are the disadvantages ?
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 6 месяцев назад
We’ve discussed Phasix with experts and myself on multiple platforms and episodes. Search for it as a keyword
@larriveeman
@larriveeman 2 года назад
would you feel comfortable having Dr Hines at UCLA fix a hernia?
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 2 года назад
He fixed my father’s hernia
@bigjay1970
@bigjay1970 2 года назад
@@herniadoc 😄
@larriveeman
@larriveeman 2 года назад
@@herniadoc Thats a good testimony
@ananusa7161
@ananusa7161 Год назад
what are the options without using mesh at all, perhaps for patients with small hernia?
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
In some patients a non mesh repair
@ananusa7161
@ananusa7161 Год назад
@@herniadoc does your center offer non mesh repair? is that a laparoscopic surgery too? thanks!
@raymichael208
@raymichael208 Год назад
What do you think about the mesh got tangled up in a pancreas
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
Pancreas??? How is that possible?
@EzraAChen
@EzraAChen Год назад
Displacement and fall off and nearby site requiring taking out. Why so many class action lawsuit?
@veronixawardwell8802
@veronixawardwell8802 5 месяцев назад
I am an eighty year old female who has an extraordinary amount of allergies some of which are life-threatening my main concern is having a reaction to mesh inserted into my body. I definitely have a metal allergy as well. I have a hernia near my naval. What is your general reaction to my concern. I am wondering about bio meshes made of animal material?
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 5 месяцев назад
I do not recommend mesh use, if possible, in patients with a lot of allergies. If mesh is needed, I choose the hybrid one with the lowest inflammatory response
@rk5941
@rk5941 2 года назад
Can ultrasound, ct scan, mri miss a hernia
@herniadoc
@herniadoc 2 года назад
Yes
@donnaberscht5320
@donnaberscht5320 Год назад
I have a hernia on my left side i also have a aortica aneurysem can i have both sugeries done at the same time
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
Typically not
@donnaberscht5320
@donnaberscht5320 Год назад
Ok ty
@emilaslan8452
@emilaslan8452 Год назад
Hi Shirin, I wonder whether you'd do mesh or suture in a tiny port site/incisional supraumbilical hernia, 1-1.5 cm, asymptomatic, in a young, non-obese and healthy patient.
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
I don’t consider 1-1.5cm tiny. If asymptomatic, you can consider watching it. Primary repair of an incisional hernia has an unacceptably high (greater than 50%) risk of recurrence, which is why mesh is considered But the choice not to use mesh in a small incisional hernia in a low risk patient can be had. In the discussion is the risk of recurrence and/or chronic pain from tissue repair thus requiring a larger and more complicated reoperation with mesh
@emilaslan8452
@emilaslan8452 Год назад
Thanks, Shirin. A couple of related questions, if you allow. 1. Would you consider a supraumbilical hernia of the said size (rather 1 cm) which occured 4-5 months after the initial lap. cholecystectomy (the port was placed below the umbilicus, not above it) incisional or rather primary? I've encountered differing views on that. The patients has no diastasis recti, linea alba untouched/unwidened. 2. What's the odds of this kind of hernia growing over time in a young and active patient? Does a growing hernia always hurt? Because if pain isn't decisive, it's difficult to identify a several mm growth to switch to repair. 3. Would you suggest wearing belt truss and/or exercises to prevent the hernia from getting bigger and/or strengthening the abdominal wall? Thank you!
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
@@emilaslan8452 Sounds like it is not incisional, rather a commonly positioned supraumbilical hernia. 1cm primary ventral defects can be successfully repaired without mesh in low risk patients. If it is not noticeable to the patient and also asymptomatic, there is no great indication for repair and watchful waiting is considered safe. A binder does not prevent hernias from getting larger. It is mostly used for symptoms, so if he has no symptom, there is no indication to wear a binder.
@emilaslan8452
@emilaslan8452 Год назад
Thanks a lot for your advice, Shirin. Greatly appreciated. Just wondering what your experience is with wait and watch: it's sometimes claimed that patients would know their initially asymptomatic hernia is growing when it turns symptomatic, that is, starts hurting. Seeing a hernia grow may be challenging because several extra millimeters wouldn't be visible to patients; apart from that, it's quite subjective and difficult to measure. The risk of negligence could be quite high in that a hernia of 1cm< growing to 1.5cm- 2cm would push the patient into a worse (mesh, more complications likely) category. That's why I wonder whether you'd agree with this motion of pain coming along as asymptomatic (umbilical) hernias grow. Gentle abdominal exercises might be a way to strengthen the wall, thus preventing the hernia from growing further, yet there appears to be controversy as to the selection of proper exercises that would to do more good than harm. Wondering about your perspective this, as well.
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
@@emilaslan8452 For low risk patients, epigastric or supraumbilical hernias don't really grow much. If the goal of the patient is to prevent need for mesh, then the discussion may be had with the patient about the risks and benefits of repairing the hernia while it is small. There is no best management. It is all tailored to the needs and lifestyle and risk factors of the patient.
@tonidoychak9120
@tonidoychak9120 Год назад
Can mesh tear
@herniadoc
@herniadoc Год назад
Not all meshes and uncommon, but yes
@ralphschueler9437
@ralphschueler9437 10 месяцев назад
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