10C/20T in 1L Lenovo ThinkCentre M90q Tiny Review

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We take a look at the Lenovo ThinkCentre M90q Tiny which we purchased with the 10 core/ 20 thread Intel Core i9-10900T which is a 35W TDP CPU. We see the hardware, the power consumption, and how it performs.
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
02:47 Hardware Overview
12:59 Performance and Power Consumption
16:25 Pricing and Key Lessons Learned
20:52 Conclusion
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@denvera1g1 3 года назад

I'm patiently waiting for the M95Q tiny with 5950E :)

@MobileIndifference 3 года назад

I just bought in M93P tiny after watching project tiny mini micro. I bought it with a i3 and put a E3-1275Lv3 in it. Nice and fast, under $200. Very happy.

@gonace 3 года назад

I really appreciate this series of videos, they´re really great information for those who are prospecting for one of these computers.

@Garageland16 3 года назад

THIS IS PATRICK FROM STH!! every opener keeps getting more intense lol. fun videos and enthusiasm

@leefhead1 3 года назад

you could tell he was super excited making this one lol

@yousifkady2113 2 года назад

Love the video. Excellent review of the M90q as we have purchased a lot of them recently for our company.

@chrisumali9841 3 года назад

Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Thanks, you too!

@stucorbishley 3 года назад

Great video Patrick, good idea to cover one of the more high end units... From a density point of view, sub $1k for a 1L machine with that much threading is quite something. Arguably could replace several small older machines depending on peak workload.. 👍

@RoastBeefSandwich 2 года назад

I have 100 of these Tinys deployed in the All-In-One monitors. They have proven exceptionally well designed.

@ivomusters 3 года назад

I do like the extra info on pricing and coupons because as you said, it might be about a 1 fast unit vs multiple smaller units comparison

@thatLion01 3 года назад

Nice system. Nice review. Thank you for posting this

@DmnkRocks 3 года назад

Some comments from my 100+ Tiny Experience. The Tool-Less Option is a Screw with a "finger clip" - the once you get with Monitors. I personally don't care, as I always have a Screwdriver on hand. The Included 2.5" bracket is always included, unless the space is used by something else (eg. Graphicscard). - this is true for all ThinkPad/Station Products. Even the cheap E-Series ThinkPads get their Drive Cages included, even if you don't option it.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Great info

@alexnovasun5952 Год назад

Thank you for review.

@allenb7395 3 года назад

Hi hope you can do more b rolls or a table top view as you discuss the parts/device

@oldbrokenhands Год назад

4:21 that's what I needed to see. Some folks I know bought a cheap version with a non-DP USB-C port on the front and no USB-C port in the rear. Thanks for this.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Glad it was useful

@TheFinalRevelation1 3 года назад

4GB RAM, what kind of application specific machine is this ?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

One easily upgraded with 2x 32GB DIMMs for 64GB

@TheFinalRevelation1 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo I did not see the whole video earlier, thanks

@ThineHolyBacon 3 года назад

A Lenovo Tiny system with both the riser option AND 2x M.2 slots!? I really wish I saw this about 3 weeks ago :

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

Absolutely. I don't get though, does this particular system come with riser or just the pcie connector? As I don't see the riser anywhere in the video, just a mention of it and that you should buy the i350 nic. I'd rather buy an SFP/+ NIC there than spending money on RJ45, but I want that riser.

@ThineHolyBacon 3 года назад

@@user-th3jl8mz7y It doesn't come with the riser unless you order it with it. Riser is about $65-70 USD on ebay and ships from china

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

@@ThineHolyBacon Is it something OEM specific or just any riser will do? For instance, some people may not know but HP servers would not boot without their risers installed because there is some logic on those, not just dumb connectors. It's like a car that won't start unless all seatbelts are on even though no passengers but the driver. Is it something similar here?

@ThineHolyBacon 3 года назад

@@user-th3jl8mz7y The riser is non-standard. Doubt any random one would fit it. No drivers needed though

@harrisongilbert 3 года назад

Hey Patrick, I have a question since you’re the guy for all of the colo things. I’m planning on getting a half rack colo in the coming months for some of my servers, but I’m not sure yet whether I should get a switch or router since my provider is just dropping me a 1g up/down cable. I’ve heard from some friends that I should only get a router if I plan to BGP peer with a Tier 1 or 2 and always just use a switch if that’s not the case, but other people have said that I should always try to use a router for futureproofing. What’s your take on this?

@SidebandSamurai 3 года назад

Excellent information on these 1 liter units. What about using it as a HTPC streaming console? I would love to see how it streams blue ray content with the atmos sound track.

@adamsaint2890 2 года назад

That little plastic bit is supposed to insulate antenna leads that are 'spare'

@OTechnology 3 года назад

I just tried going to the website and was surprised you can configure these with the full fat 65W CPUs??!! That's pretty impressive!

@morosis82 3 года назад

I'll be impressed if it can cool them so they don't thermal throttle.

@OTechnology 3 года назад

@@morosis82 that's probably possible. Its limited to 65W anyways which isn't impossible to cool but its noisy.

@aetherspoon 3 года назад

Ooooo~ Now to decide whether to go with something like this for my VM host or build something once the 5000-series AMD APUs come out for retail purchase and put it into an X300 or something.

@pkt1213 3 года назад

This is a cool series. It makes me want to build a kubernetes cluster for...well...no reason. I got the IoT running Untangle.

@JoaoPinto-1983 2 года назад

Hi man. Can you please let me know what are the temps that you get in this cpu on a normal usage, not playing games. Thanks

@asdf51501 3 года назад

A 10900T or 10900 in that tiny a form factor? Even with Intel 630 graphics this thing would be a solid Plex server while being able to do other things. It really sounds impressive, and might be a better value than a NUC with a 4-core 8-thread CPU depending on use case. Thank you for the video!

@milescarter7803 3 года назад

What is the Pxx equivalent? Or is there a M90x? I noticed on my P330 that I get the black heatsink, but it is available with the P620 video card, so its necessary. Also 65w option with copper heatsink. Its either or 35w video or 65w processor, and I think the system sometimes will ask for a 135w with a video card + 9700t or 9600t. Any news on if encompass parts sells the copper heatsinks etc so we can upgrade down the road?

@Joe__Tech 2 года назад

All OEMs shall offer all those mini PCs as a modern silent case version and maybe old fashioned with those loud fan cooled case. I always turned all my Intel NUCs for me and m friends into a silent PC, with Akasa‘s passive cooled case. It is worth it.

@todortodorov940 3 года назад

We've been corona locked down for 13 months now. I have two remotely controlled Lenovo Small-Form-Factor PCs at work. But as it is Corona, the office is empty, no cleaning services. One PC failed with fan problems. One had the dust shield - the other didn't.

@ExtremePilot4472 Год назад

Just started watching this series since I work at an E waste company and I'm about to pick up an optiplex 7070 micro i7. That plastic piece at 12:20 looks to be a protective cover for a WiFi antenna cable, they must have lost it while installing the WLAN card and it found its way under the board.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Welcome to Project TinyMiniMicro!

@ExtremePilot4472 Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks! I look forward to collecting and clustering more of these with your guidance in the future

@zahirig Год назад

Great video. Can you do a video on the naming system lenovo is using for these devices? When I look at it, it appears all over the place.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Someone was working on this in the forums forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/lenovo-thinkcentre-thinkstation-tiny-project-tinyminimicro-reference-thread.34925/

@matthewbridgeman57 3 года назад

This is super cool! Are there any tiny/mini/micro PC’s or Nucs or what have you that have an internal power supply/are “brickless”, sorta like the Mac Mini?

@positivebits 3 года назад

Older (4th gen) Fujitsu q920/q520 have integrated psu. They are smige bigger though

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Well, we have 3x M1 Mac Minis :-) These corporate desktop PCs all have external power supplies. The closest may be www.servethehome.com/intel-nuc9vxqnx-nuc-review-xeon-quartz-canyon/ but that is quite a bit larger.

@certifiedgeek05 3 года назад

Hey Patrick! Amazing reviews. I am looking for something small like this for a VMware lab, so maybe 3 in the cluster. Would love the option for 16GB or 32GB. What would you recommend?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Hi David, I think the challenge with VMware is that the hardware support is generally well behind Linux/ Windows. The one bit to check would be to see how these play with the i219-LM NIC as that is not a server adapter. Most of the AMD models use Realtek NICs which can be a challenge. Generally though I think the 6C/8C models are better value than this 10C unit, but if you just want 25% more physical cores, then this can make sense.

@certifiedgeek05 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo You are awesome for responding. Thank you!

@nmrm7838 3 года назад

it is possible to take full advantage of the dp 1.4 port with uhd 630? Or it is just ready for 11th gen uhd 750?

@catsspat 3 года назад

Ah, them little Lenovo's. I bought one a couple of years ago, just to get a GE & PRO version of an AMD APU, which I promptly moved to a *proper* motherboard that supports ECC memory, so I could build my tiny m-ITX server. Don't worry, I revived the little Lenovo by putting in a Athlon 200GE. Still works fine.

@UmVtCg 3 года назад

I wasn't worried, not even a little bit

@jolness1 3 года назад

This thing would be great with Thunderbolt. I would grab an eGPU and run it as a set top gaming/media machine.

@danilolimadossantos1 3 года назад

Exactly. Everytime I see an Intel Notebook or NUC/1L without a thunderbolt port, I just say: "go AMD instead, then". Thunderbolt is the best avantage Intel has on that section of the market, and it's a waste when an Intel system doesn't have one...

@MobiusHorizons 2 года назад

the little plastic bit looks almost exactly like the shield that covers a wifi antenna port. I'm guessing it got dropped during configuration.

@evilZardoz 3 года назад

I literally have a Canon 28-70 sitting on the right hand side of my screen and was a bit confused when it started showing up in the video..! Such a crazy good lens. Shame about the weight!

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

I actually like the weight since most of my shooting is done in the studio

@captainxl 3 года назад

In a thermal constrained cpu like this, do you really get more performance past a certain number of cores, or are you just trading clock speed for core count?

@captainxl 3 года назад

I should of watched the video for 1 more minute before posting.

@cuchomoon77 Год назад

Patrick, i have an m90q with i5 10500t, do you know if i can upgrade the processor to an a i5 11500?, thank you so much.

@PauloRAgostinho 3 года назад

You need to test the riser and external GPU!

@cameronwheler7367 Год назад

Fantastic video! Picked one based on this, and it rocks! 10700 non-T and swapped in a 980 Pro and 32GB of DDR4-2666 CL15. Does anyone know what the Lenovo part number is for the Lenovo Slot -> PCIe Riser Cable? Interested in doing some interesting hacks or adding 10G ethernet. Thanks!

@tristankordek 3 года назад

Hello If you really want to check if this filter is worth recommending You would have to run a quick performance test with all air inlets covered so that air flows in from the front and out from the rear. In fact, these USB names are terribly unintuitive, I do not know why they did not use the name related to the port bandwidth, e.g. USB 3 5Gb (or 10Gb or 20Gb). Thanks for another cool episode

@BenState 2 года назад

i wish we saw more dual NIC RJ45. Nice PF sense box or server.

@OTechnology 3 года назад

Can you test if undervolting works on these? An undervolt using throttlestop in windows or intel undervolt in linux would probably really boost the performance on these!

@davidchoral2523 3 года назад

I was waiting with great anticipation for the M90q review so many thanks Patrick! Please let me know if it’s noisy when the cpu is stressed, does the fan work like crazy? Is it audible? I want this unit for music production and silent working is really a big deal for me. To be honest I’m interested more for M90q with intel 10900. Obviously more powerful, but the 2.80ghz base clock to 5.20ghz boost and the 65W TDP makes me wonder about thermals and the fan noise. What’s your opinion?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

David, the fan certainly runs on these. Near idle ~10W is not an issue to cool quietly. At the 60W+ range the fan was certainly audible. Not bad at all, but as someone who has done a lot of sound insulation on the studio, it would not be something I would put within 1m of a good microphone. It is also much quieter than my desktop when rendering these videos. On the higher wattage units, I think you would be better off with a larger system that can use larger fans.

@davidchoral2523 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo I was afraid that you'd say that. Maybe that's why people prefer the new 5nm fanless mac mini. I really love lenovo tiny's, in fact I'm answering from a tiny right now, but lenovo really need to redesign the thermals on tiny units. I wonder how the M80q and M90q units with i9 10900 get TUV certified ? By the way, from your experience from all brands (Lenovo, HP, Dell, Aus, Nuk, etc) is the most silent and powerful?

@andreiflorea 2 года назад

I like dust filters, no matter how small they are :)

@dawn1berlitz 3 года назад

not a bad system but if i where to get one like to act as a garage music pc i would need a audio out on the back side so i could use the Y cable for my amplifier thats out there

@steampunkstar_raisin 3 года назад

Why would you custom order the computer with i9 and only 4 gigs of ram? Seems like a waste of CPU upgrade...

@denvera1g1 3 года назад

Patric, the tool less option is suposed to include a slim screw(looks just like the standard screw) but then there is a little cresant handle that folds out(looks like the handle for a 5 gallon bucket) you shouild be able to twist it to open, i too was dissapointed until i investigated closer

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

That is what I was expecting. It is just a bummer that this did not have the option.

@denvera1g1 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Oh dang so they actually didnt get it to you, thats super dissapointing. Wonder if you could find an analog on ebay or something

@ShubhamBhendarkar 3 года назад

Lets say very awkward, good video, got me looking for what micro computer are available in my country.

@c123bthunderpig 3 года назад

These Lenovo units are pretty awesome - from a configuration viewpoint and especially robust case. Patrick does a great job on pointing out the good bad and ugly aspects of the series so check his videos if your looking for one of these units. Yes, Ryzen is improving but I trust Intel over them. Of course it is a personal preverance depending on what you want to do with these mini micro centers.

@alexeyfarman 3 года назад

Regarding new Rocket Lake Intel desktops CPUs. How big chances are Intel will have supply shortages with it and major vendors should do decision to stay on current gen and wait for 12th one?

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

Thank you for this. Actually, lenovo should REALLY REALLY listen to you. I'm so extremely unhappy with their configurator, there's neither photos nor any further description for options like "dust shield" or "vesa mount", how the thing looks and how your system looks right now on the inside!! I have to come here on STH to figure out what I'm buyin in that configurator because there's so many chances of this or that connector not being soldered when ordering without this or that option there, it's impossible to keep track of all these things without any confirmation on what you're getting! I would also get the very minimal config for ram and ssd because I have it all sitting around. But I'm most worried about lack of soldered slots and risers! Thanks for showing your particular config this is extremely helpful. Lenovo should feel ashamed by these reviews. Really I have so many things to say about their website lack of any advanced filters and info. Maybe you should submit something to them, maybe they'll listen to you.

@todortodorov940 3 года назад

Dust shield is a shield that protects from dust. Vesa mount is a device to attach the PC on a vesa compatible mount.

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

@@todortodorov940 sounds exactly like lenovo sales support. i know that. i also know it's some sort of portable computer, im a smart customer eh the point is lenovo doesn't have any proper description and even photos for most of those listed options, as we see here, this dust shield is pretty worthless although costs some money. as for vesa mounts, some can be adapted to actually attach the unit to the back of the display to make a sort of "monoblock" system, which is cool but won't always necessary work, depending on the construction of the mount that's why we need pics and info.

@todortodorov940 3 года назад

@@user-th3jl8mz7y You answered your question. Those items are not necessary for the PC to work. If you don't know what they do - you probably don't need them - no need to click them on. As for pictures, no, I don't see the need to have pictures for each item. I don't need a picture of a RAM module, a CPU, a webcam, Microsoft Windows, Adobe Premier or 3 year extended on-site support. I can google. I would prefer Lenovo spending their energy on the product, not on pictures in the webshop.

@F1Jackman 3 года назад

I love the massive 28-70 F2 L that's sitting next to you.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

That on the R5 is the main photo camera setup for the studio. The Canon C70 is also using a 28-70 F/2 L recording the video.

@Bean86 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo wish I had the cash for one of these setups - keep up the good work!

@davidchoral2523 3 года назад

Hey Patrick, as I’ve already wrote yesterday if you had to buy a tiny computer for audio production, really powerful but silent as much as possible, which brand and model would you choose? I’m really up for M90q tiny with i9 10900 but the 65W TDP scares me. I would really appreciate your honest opinion.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Probably the M1 Mac Mini. They run at much lower power.

@davidchoral2523 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Sorry Patrick my bad, what would you suggest besides mac mini, I'm a windows user.

@universidad1234 2 года назад

My brand new M90q i5 10500T is ultra low noise. Very confortable to work with!

@physxme 2 года назад

They also have a model that uses the non-T 10900 CPU, wonder what kind of heat sink they put in there

@deryberrytwo7219 2 года назад

What is the most powerful lenovo m series?

@0xKruzr Год назад

does anyone know if you can order the right-angle PCIe riser adapter separately?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

People in the forums have.

@0xKruzr Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo turns out they're all over eBay for about $25. thanks Patrick!

@SomeRandomPerson 3 года назад

Other than the Lenovo P330/P340 Tiny, is there anything else in this form factor with a real nvidia GPU (so I can get Plex to do proper HW transcoding - intel quicksync isn't fast enough)

@aarthas2263 Год назад

M930X，Dell 7080 mff PCI，MAG TPIDENT3/X/S

@SA77888 Год назад

Ive never heard the term 1 litre computer before. Does that mean it has a 1 litre engine or does it mean if you poured water inside the case it hold would 1 litre??

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

The volume of these is just over 1L these days as they have gotten a bit bigger. Think more like if you taped it off, the volume they displace would be around 1L

@SA77888 Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thats aweseome, thanks for the reply. Im glad you seem to know I was joking re ' engine '!!! :)

@fakhrulhilal 3 месяца назад

I wonder why lenovo doesn't give thunderbolt port for tiny PC series, even for premium thinkcentre lineup. Intel NUC has this option.

@mikebruzzone9570 3 года назад

I worked with Ergo brick in the beginning on CPU supply and this category has come a long long way. 35w T grades are highly demanded Intel stepped up volume of T and v S, and AMD and ARM, have noticed. mb

@mikebruzzone9570 3 года назад

ARM noticed more than AMD on ability of licensees to supply in volume required for this market vis a vis AMD at 600 wafers or so in 2021. mb

@mikebruzzone9570 3 года назад

And Via, well, . . . ??? I'm lost here but know why . . . mb

@mikebruzzone9570 3 года назад

Mac mini supply volume v Intel 11th is at my Seeking Alpha comment line every 2 weeks back to November. But I will buy C5G 7 nm on the unknown 5 nm transistor endurance consideration and it will be a mini tower.. Office use and home facility management that's it. mb

@mikebruzzone9570 3 года назад

Aha insight for me my attention here ends at E3, for me, but come on, mini cluster, sounds like a Tinker Toy kids gift set. Like the Intel microscope. mb

@dt8787 Год назад

No CD disk drive?

@NunoLeal86 2 года назад

Any solution for a nas? Maybe one with support for pci so I can add 3.5 hdd?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

Not really for these. Some just use external USB 3.0 drives, but that scares me.

@NunoLeal86 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo any other tiny server that I can use other solution than usb?

@dn5426 3 года назад

how the fuck are you recording this? It has that podcast quality voice and it is amazing.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Ha! I am not sure about that, but certainly better audio than a year ago. Just using the Canon C70 as the recorder and a Rode NTG4+. We have not spent time screwing with the audio in post-production which needs to get done at some point.

@dn5426 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Maybe it's your voice who know :P Anyways thanks for setup info.

@danieljin240 3 года назад

m90q vs m75q which to pick?

@zxcvb_bvcxz 3 года назад

Worth it as a VM host / build box in a small apartment?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

That is the basic idea behind Project TinyMiniMicro

@TheChriscorey 3 года назад

HDMI 1.4 or 2.0?

@UntouchedWagons 3 года назад

What camera lens is that in the background?

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Canon R5 w/ 28-70mm f/2L

@criostasis 2 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo just picked up a 90D w 18-135 is usm for my photography class this semester. Total noob at photography so maybe this is a bit overkill for just starting out 😂

@ServeTheHomeVideo 2 года назад

@@criostasis Super!

@michh2836 3 года назад

Lenovo 💪👍😍 💥🔥🔥🔥

@audigex 2 года назад

"USB 5 gen 2.1.2 stardate 35414.9" - can we just start referring to them by the speed - 5Gbps, 10Gbps etc, it's the only way that actually makes any sense now

@LeicaM11 2 года назад

Great processor. I do not like fan cooled PCs since 2014. I am using passive cooled systems only. I am enjoying the absolute silence. Paid 800€ for my first SSD, with 32GB😂

@R1BNC 2 года назад

I agree, it is pain when the fan dies

@elevul 3 года назад

And it still doesn't have dual Ethernet... And if you have to add a NIC it's a nightmare to find the pieces required to install it.

@bobcarpenter1551 3 года назад

If you purchase the Lenovo 4 Port NIC Kit it comes with the riser for the TIny. 4XC0R41416 as Patrick said though, it's a WHOLE lot cheaper to buy it in your build than after.

@aetherspoon 3 года назад

You could also use that rear USB-C port for a 2.5 GbE adapter.

@akurenda1985 3 года назад

Patrick, if I configure that same system mine's over $1400. What magical coupon did you use to get it for under $800 before tax? O.o

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

There was a 45% off coupon at the time. These come around every few weeks as mentioned.

@MichaelAlderete 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Would be great to say _where_ the coupons “come around”.

@brentgreeff1115 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo - Are you subscribed to their email newsletter or something? - This machine is very appealing at that price, but I am in Europe. - It would be great to see more linux coverage. - ie how well this runs VMs or Kubernetes VS a 8500. One big factor in having a lot of programs running is cache. - I have a feeling that running a dozen or so processes - Postgres, Redis, web-servers etc will run far better in a machine with more cores especially if there is more cache, - I am really keen on the 8500 but I ran Kubernetes on a 6-core machine and the fan was always spinning. - You keep refering to Kube and the goals of TMM but I for one would be keen to see these machine actually running Kube workloads because I think there will be marked differences between them,

@brentgreeff1115 3 года назад

- Is there not a Kube benchmark tool that is not too hard to run? - 7zip etc is interesting, but... not hugely.

@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 3 года назад

It's a pity, they do not sale a bare bone configuration.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

They do not have barebones, but usually it is less expensive to get the CPU you want when they go on coupon sale than to buy a barebones and build yourself.

@BS25999 Год назад

I would 'not' have internal wifi. The mini pcie slot can then be used for a HD or or all sorts of expansion projects. A USB wifi dongle is $5. The slot is far far too valuable to waste on wifi.

@nabbe63o 2 года назад

Where can I buy these used for a good price

@aarthas2263 Год назад

eaby

@magicflute5947 3 года назад

It will be great if it has 4 dimm slots for 128GB ram capacity.

@aarthas2263 Год назад

NO，64G

@Airbag888 3 года назад

not enough sata/nvme for me to turn this into a NAS even though it has a pci-x 3.0x16, I'd use that for a 10gbe sfp+ Power consumption is nice though. overall I think the ryzen counterpart still wins

@bobcarpenter1551 3 года назад

It's actually an x8 electrical connection. The AMDs don't have the slot option (sadly) been looking for an sfp+ adapter that will be thin and cool enough to run inside.

@Airbag888 3 года назад

@@bobcarpenter1551 yeah they're toying with us. Just missing the 10gbe and some sata/nvme Even the 3000 epyc embedded seem to have been abandoned

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

For those who's very far behind the modern desktops tech: are the CPUs in these lenovo units swappable or soldered in?

@Kevinmtzg 7 месяцев назад

Swappable

@freddyt55555 3 года назад

The M95q with 4750GE will smoke this, and with 2 fewer cores.

@islandsedition 3 года назад

Hahahaha. "High" sales tax at less than 10%! Our sales tax (VAT) in Europe and the UK is usually around 18%.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Relatively high for the US. Oregon, the state north of California is 0%

@islandsedition 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo always interesting to see how things work in different places. I thought 10%ish was good but 0%, that is quite a gift.

@johnh1353 3 года назад

Yikes! $1000 starting? not really good for a home lab node ( new arch or not) ... you can get a 2S E-5 node for half that ... although you'd probably be draining have the resources of your city's power by running that one server alone ... look on the bright side, you'll be able to keep your neighborhood warm during those cold winters 🔥

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

Being fair, that $1K starting is for the top-bin SKU.

@todortodorov940 3 года назад

The vPro models always add a decent extra on the price. They (Intel and Lenovo) know that vPro is for enterprise customers and those often do not care that much about price - they need the vPro manageability.

@denvera1g1 3 года назад

I'm waiting for that THINKDESK45 45% of coupon, picked up a couple of the 4750GE based units with min/max setup only 4GB of single channel memory and a 500GB HDD for only $530, could have gotten it for $488, but i wanted the rear USB-C windows 10 Pro, and the tool-less entry ordered 32GB of tighter timing RAM(still 3200mhz) and a 500GB SSD, swapped the 500GB HDD with 2TB HDDs i had on hand and its a snappy little system with good graphics. Once i can buy a video card i'll probably flip them on ebay for about what i paid for them(plus the cost of RAM and SSD)

@chrisainsley3533 3 года назад

I ordered the same machine at the same time with the same offer with the same CPU. I checked my order status for a couple of weeks, and about 6 weeks into the order, the order status changed to "cancelled". I didn't receive an email about the cancellation, they just silently cancelled it. I then had hours of hassle to get them to honour the order, and reordered at the same price, with assurances it was now dealt with with priority, and would not be silently cancelled again. Another few weeks passed, and I was checking the order status - and guess what happened. Yep, cancelled again without my consent or even notifying me with an email. I called up again, and they told me that that model had been discontinued, and they could not fulfil my order. So in the end it cost me a couple of months of waiting. Lenovo seems to have a policy of silent cancellations without informing customers, so I'll be very wary of ordering from them in future. I was gutted. The 4750GE in that form factor, with support for 64GB of RAM was EXACTLY what I was (and am) looking for. This machine is interesting but I'd like either 11th gen, or AMD GPU, in order to be the complete package.

@denvera1g1 3 года назад

@@chrisainsley3533 I got an email today saying my last order was canceled Just curious, on your model did you notice the PCIe slot, that was missing the slot? On mine there are clearly traces/pins where the PCIe 16x slot would go, there just isnt a connector like on the Thinkcentre M90Q. Wondering if they'll offer a 'secret' config with a 5900e(12 core 35w) with a decrete GPU somewhat like the M920X

@chrisainsley3533 3 года назад

@@denvera1g1 I wouldn't worry about future models when they can't even ship current models. The way I see it (this is total speculation) is that the "great chip shortage" has destroyed their supply chain, and they are being forced to cancel orders. Also - if you want something with the 5900e, and a discrete CPU, it's not going to fit in this form factor anyway. It'll need more cooling than a chassis this size can provide. I'm so frustrated that Lenovo really made the best form factor PC, but they can't actually ship it. I can see this situation lasting at least 2 more years.

@Camhin1 3 года назад

I'm really disappointed in Lenovos new offerings especially with the new thinkpads. In Australia there's no good configurations for the t series and the t495 doesn't have any customisability and no external battery.

@aarthas2263 Год назад

USA Lenovo thinkpad

@TheDillio187 2 года назад

It’s dumb that this machine has dual m.2 slots but the m75 g2 doesn’t.

@llortaton2834 2 года назад

if no ECC i no buy

@BLASTIC0 Год назад

I guess its time for me to figure out whatever the heck 10C/20T means.

@ierosgr 3 года назад

10/20 core/threads with one nic ..... that price also ....pffffffffffffff... Next one

@arjdroid 3 года назад

Unfortunately the newer version will max out at 8c16t due to dumb decisions from Intel lol

@redtails 3 года назад

Why is it that OEM PCs never have decent air filtering? This machine will be ruined in

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

I think that is what the dust filter option is for

@dannyy3374 3 года назад

I would bite if it had a 2.5G nic

@user-th3jl8mz7y 3 года назад

thats where the pcie slot comes in handy but yeah, the era of 1g ethernet has to end...

@psiklops71 3 года назад

so tiny just right

@dbzssj4678 3 года назад

lol 1.9 ghz, waste of sand

@Matlockization 3 года назад

Intel TDP 135W ? That's bad.

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

35W TDP, 135W power adapter

@Matlockization 3 года назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Thankyou. Although I wouldn't mind a desktop CPU that is lower than the usual 65W. Perhaps in whatever gen.

@c3rberus27 3 года назад

Looks Like a PS2

@darrensmith5983 3 года назад

No general specs? AMD APU, Intel or thermal solution. Aww come on. Thumb down :-(

@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 года назад

We cover this is Intel in the video, as well as mentioning the M75q-2 video we did (also linked in the description.) The main site article linked has all of the major configuration options including CPUs, TDPs of those CPUs, and WiFi options. Reading off a list of 20+ Intel SKUs would be quite boring.