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Finally the gift I wanted, watching Ryan explain away his hate for the 7 mag.🤣

I am an old fart, age 65. I never had a 7mm Mag. I was taught reloading at a young age. I got into studying the load manuals. Yes, I looked at velocity, grains of powder to get there, and absorbed as much as I could. My Dad gave me a used, beat up 30-06 built on an old Mauser action he got from a guy as partial payment for some carpentry work he did for a guy. I still have that old gun. It is just fine. I drilled and tapped it for a scope in my 20s. I have two other 30-06 rifles, a CDL Rem and Winchester. In those days everyone had a 30-06. We did not have all the cartridges that are out today. The cartridge has killed all the deer and hogs I have hunted in my state, Texas. It had enough legs to make the once in a long while long shot. I never went to states for bigger animals like elk, moose, bears, etc., just south Texas whitetails and hogs. I know quite a few people that had 7mm ag guns over the years. They all seemed to retire it for a more moderate cartridge. Many of these guys went for the 243 or 308. They are good deer rounds for our smallish deer, doubles as a coyote tool also. The same can be said for the 30-06 too. I still use old home-made 30-06 because I own it, it is paid for, it works, it is still accurate, AND my Dad gave it to me when we were going through some serious economical difficulties when I was growing up at that time.

My 1990 Browning A-bolt Stalker BOSS Left Hand in .7mm Rem Mag has taken 168 big game animals in 14 states, 3 countries and 2 continents. Our load of choice for many years now has been the Hornady GMX 139 grain copper bullet. From Black Wildebeest to Rocky Mountain Elk, Black Bear to Blacktails, the caliber and rifle combo has served me very well indeed. And yes Ryan, thank you for admitting it is a fine cartridge for hunting.

In about 2000 I loaded a 100 round box with 7 Mag ammo for my best friend. It pushed a 160 Nosler partition to 3100fps with no signs of excessive pressure. This fall he fired the last 4 rounds of that 23 year old ammo. 2 shots on paper to confirm zero, and 2 dead deer. I’ll be loading him another hundred rounds for the next 23 years. Shoots a lot flatter than the 30 caliber loads of similar billet design. It has killed elk, mule deer, and tons of whitetail deer. His Browning a bolt rifle always prints the first 2 shots in the same hole and the 3rd shot about a half inch high and right. It is an easy cartridge to load and hot rod beyond the loading manuals.

Although he doesn’t post it on instagram, never underestimate the man who has spent a lifetime taking game with a 7mm and a nosler partition.

Ryan is finally evolving into my way of thinking....we don't really need a more new cartridges. The classics have everything we need to get it done.

I dragged my Remington 700 chambered in 7mm Rem Mag out of the safe for this years deer hunt. Almost forgot how heavy that rifle is but I still love it. As expected, it harvested a large doe with a high shoulder shot, drop-on-the-spot hit. I've been on an AR deer/elk/bear/hog hunting quest for years now (because the gun control types say the AR is not used for hunting)...308 and 6.5 CM (AR10), 6.5 Grendel, 300 Blackout, 350 Legend, 450 Bushmaster, and last year with a Ruger SFAR 308. It was nostalgic hauling that 700 around this year. She's dropped critters from Canada to Texas and East to West coast. Will aways be a huge fan of the 7MM Rem Mag.

I hunt with the 300 wsm but my second choice is the 7 rem mag! Hunting 60+ years as well as reloading and collecting I can hunt with ANY cartridge and think the 7 rem mag is one of the best and that’s why it has done so good! I have a 1963 in 7 rem mag and the big 7 as it was called end the rule of a lot of great cartridges! I still love the 30-06 though and still one of the very best for how old it is.

No matter the hatred Ryan may have for the cartridge. It’s still THE 7 mag. All these new dancing cartridges took 50+ years to catch up to it

I have a vintage 1977 BAR, Belgian made chambered in 7mm Rem Mag. It was a gift from a good friend about 10 years ago. Soft shooting and very accurate. I load 160 grain projectiles at 3,000 fps. Excellent results. The rifle is beautiful.

I have always given my hunting partner shiit for his choice of 7mag. I was in the store working counter 2 when a "like new" tikka m658 came in. My mind was made up before I even saw that it was chambered in 7 mag. I have begrudgingly learned to love the chambering!

I love the 10 minute talks, but I do realize that y’all like long high bc bullets for looong range shooting I like as Ryan said 140-160 gr partitions seated long with a good charge of propellant makes a well made hunting round. I killed one doe whitetail with my 7mm rem mag at about 60 yards. Where you hunt makes a big difference in what you need. I have changed to a 140 gr Sierra in a 7mm-08 20” barrel that kills just fine at the ranges that I hunt. Good job Guys.

I've got a christensen arms elr in 7 mag. With solid glass 1800M is very possible, good bc with 7mag. Light loads for white tail, heavy loads for any color bear, good moose or elk round. It's a good do all cartridge.

I think you guys need to each go hunt with a cartridge you don’t like and do a podcast on your experience with it.

some old guy had a custom one of these at the range last weekend and it was outstanding. Loud and outstanding.

Ryan, get a 7 Rem Mag. You will love it like we all do. I get a 30-06, a 7mm-08, and a 7 Rem Mag ready for hunting season each year and I always grab the 7 Rem Mag on the first day.

The 7 prc will never make the 7 rem mag obsolete. Mark my words.

My thoughts on the 7 rem mag is,if it isn’t the top dog why is everything compared to it?

There's a reason why it's one of the best selling rounds for the last 60 years.

The 7mag is super in efficient. The pinnacle of 7mm chamberings are the 280AI 1st. And the 7mm08. The 7mag slightly beats them in velocity but does so at the cost of way more powder n recoil .

The 7 Rem Mag needs to be handloaded to achieve its potential. It also needs a 26" barrel to significantly exceed 30-06 performance.

First gun I bought as a 16 year old was a Remington 700 action and had Jarret build me a "bean field rifle" off this action in 700 Rem Mag. Still got that rifle today and I still occasionally rock it in the field although its had a couple of barrels since then. I was suffering "magnumitus" at the time, it had the flat shooting velocity with high BC bullets and didnt recoil as much as the 300 Win Mag. Today I am a lot older, not near the masochist I used to be and I appreciate the more efficient cartridges like 308 and 6.5 Grendel for hunting these days.

I absolutely love my Remington 700 BDL custom deluxe 7 REM MAG. It’s a sweet classic hunting rifle. Had my gunsmith free float that barrel, aluminum pillar bed and glass bed the receiver and I threw in a timney Calvin elite trigger. Topped it off with an Arken SH4 6-24. It absolutely rocks. With the ammo it likes its absolute laser beam even with that relatively thin hunting profile barrel.

All you guys that think 3006 has all the performance of a 7 mag are nuts! lol. The 7 has roughly a 200 fps advantage across bullet weights and all that with a more efficient bullet. That’s a big difference! The design itself may not be efficient and it is more expensive but it without a doubt outperforms 3006 or similar cartridges

Lol...Ryan hates the 7 mag mag that only gives you 200 ft/s over the 7mm08 for an extra 20 grains of powder but LOVES the 300 WM that gives you 200 ft/s over the ought-6 for the same 20gr.

Ron Spomer has a video where he says that if he was limited to only one cartridge to hunt everything it would be the 7mm Remington Magnum. That is very telling in my opinion. Growing up in Oregon my dad was a big Winchester guy and had guns in .243, .308, 300 Win Mag and .338 Win Mag and when I was younger I hunted with his .243 Sako. When I was older he wanted me to have a rifle of my own that I could use for everything so he bought me a Savage 110 in 7mm Remington Magnum and I used it on Coyotes, Blacktail Deer and Roosevelt Elk shooting mostly 175 grain Nosler Partition hand loads at 2950 ft/sec.

9.3x62...its the gift I have requested for over a year now...and the gift I wanted

I own an A-bolt stalker with boss (LH) in 7mm REM. I’ve shot about 25 head of game with it. Everything from 15-600 pounds. Wouldn’t trade it for anything 😊

I got a 7 PRC this year. I really liked the specs and I have liked the performance, so far. I have heard it said that if you already have 7 RM, you probably don't need the 7 PRC. Another person said, if you want to build custom everything and really enjoy handloadng, get the 7 RM. If you want a factory rifle that shoots good with factory ammo, get the 7 PRC. Thing is, people are already changing recipes and trying different bullet styles and weights in the 7 PRC. I have seen the 7 RM bring down an elk. But I also know a guy that doesn't need more than just his one .30-06.

Finally Ryan was subjected to the 7mm rem mag 🤣🤣🤣

Factory loads, as is common with OLD cartridges, do NOT represent what the cartridge can do if you don't have to take into account old guns. Steel metalurgy is better, but the brass is also better. My load in my modern rifle is a Nosler 175 Gr. Accubond LR on a upper end load doing 2915 fps. That's only 100 fps behind the 7mm PRC and that's because the 7mm Rem is handicapped by it's 2000 PSI case spec from SAAMI. While I agree that the belt isn't necessary these days, it's also not an issue for me or anyone with some experience reloading. I've been reloading nearly 20 years and my 7mm Mag has never had any issues with it anyway.

Use to feel the same way about the 270. Then a friend was selling a nice Rem 760 270 for a price that couldn't be walked away from. Great wood. Excellent blueing. Open sights. Extra mags. Most importantly, I didn't have pump action centerfire. I now own a 270. Couldn't be happier. To be honest, it was that the package overrode my irrational prejudice for the cartridge. Now if I could just get over it for the 6.5 creedmore...

I got a 270 a while back. It's a beautiful old Birmingham Small Arms made in England back in the early 60s. The iron sights are knocked out on it so I got it for a song. It has taken me months to find and acquire rings to mount anything to the 19mm dovetail. It's a very cool old gun and I'm happy to take it into the mountains.

7 rem mag is a great cartridge if you need one gun to do everything. But who wants to own just one gun?

Things I expected to hear from Ryan, "Inefficient, my 280AI does the same thing with less powder, in a lighter rifle."

I'm surprised Ryan didn't call in sick...

I have hunted with a 7 rem mag killed several deer and 4 elk with it. One major point missed here is the 175 grain spitzers that were available even in the old days. This in the world before bonded/monolithic bullets put the 7mm Remington magnum significantly above the .270 in getting deep enough penetration. I know that 150 grain bullets are the most common but if you look you can usually find 175 grain bullets and you all acted like they didn't exist.

I moved to Alaska 40+ years ago. Originally from the East Coast. The first rifle I bought, when I could afford one, was a Weatherby Vanguard with the Sako full length bolt slide in 7mm Rem Mag. I have shot pretty much everything up here with a 7mm Mag...including Grizzly. Those old Vanguards were exceptionally well built and exceptionally accurate. I loaded 175 grain Speer Mag Tips (economy version of their Grand Slam...no longer available). The bullet went through both sides of pretty much everything I shot with that round...with the exception of the grizzly where it broke both shoulders and lodged inside the off side hide in a classic mushroom. If anything, I was shooting too hard a bullet. As far as accuracy, that round sighted in at 1 1/2" high at 100 yards was dead-on at 300. I could cloverleaf 3 rounds at 100 yards consistently. There were times when I shot my first 2 rounds and I thought the second shot either missed the paper entirely or went through the first hole. Recoil-wise, with a muzzle break, it's like shooting a 243. Without, it is a sharp recoil and my rifle came up causing me to lose sight of the animal. As far as accuracy, that gun ruined me. People talk about achieving 1 MOA accuracy like that is some form of acceptable. I won't rest until I can get 1/2" groups at 100 yards. I have other rifles in other calibers, but I still have and use that rifle and it is still just as accurate and will achieve 1" groups easily with factory ammo. I only have a few Mag Tips left and will have to work up a new load.

3 very important introductions were made in 1962. The 7mm Remington Magnum. The Remington 700 bolt action. Me🤣. I have a 7 built on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Kreiger 1-8” Sendero contour. My first three shots at the range after a probably not needed barrel break in cleaning routine went into a .164” group. Close to 1/2” with 5 shot groups. Barnes 168LRX Re 26 at 3035fps. With the NF 5.5-22x56. This is a very heavy rifle but it shoots

Great conversation and intervention for Ryan

So... When are we gonna get the 300 win mag devoted episode??? You touched on it during the WSM episode and said y'all still need to do it 😂

I picked up a Salk l 71 in 7 mag in the spring beautiful gun spent about 800 on it then I did own the Ruger 338 boat paddle both great guns years Ago also a great rifle

I have one hunting rifle. Remington BDL in 7mag. I live and hunt in Northwest Montana. One caliber for all the hunting I will ever do in life. All mag wells arent the same lenght in 7mag. Throat accordingly. Would 3100 fps? 3200fps? Make you happy? I know people who take elk every year with a 7mm-08. I will be getting a 7-08 with a youth stock for my wife and my son and I might take it whitetail hunting a little. Be a lightweight break compared to what I'm used to. I took my first Montana whitetail about 10 years ago with my Glock 31 in 357 SIG. Over the years some more fell victim to a 270. Sweet shooter! Then I had a chance to buy a BDL from my uncle and I might have shot it as a kid. He had 2, one was sold we don't know which one I shot but I like to think it was this one. It's a bit long and a bit heavy. I'm 47 so I wasnt born into the 7mag craze and have seen many calibers take game in my life. 30-30 more than any. I killed my first two deer with a 220 swift. it's shot placement first not caliber. I liked what weights the 7mag had to offer and the length I could push if I wanted. For now it has done everything I have asked. I go 6-01 270lbs and she kicks the s%#t out of my soldier. But when it's getting dark and foggy with sleet moving in and you didn't see where he ran after you shot. You close your eyes and see where that shot broke and realize you made a great shot and not to worry cause he didn't go far. In grizzly country I trade in the Glock for a SBH In 480 with 410 grain hardcast..she's a sweetie too!! I would like to build a chassis gun in 7mag down the road for poking holes in paper at range. I have a 24 pound rifle to poke big holes in paper.. Cool show. I think you have to look at max handloads and max b.c. bullets to compare fair. In all honesty 308 is a great cartridge but everyone I know shot one since I was 12 so I never grafted to them. My black sheep caliber.

I find it funny and interesting that I found a deal on a left handed Browning X Bolt Hells Canyon LR McMillan in 7mm REM Mag (which is in a 1:8 twist) yesterday and today you all come out with this video on this popular vintage do all cartridge. 😎🇺🇸

You just had to bring it up. I have a Browning A Bolt in 280 Remington. You are right. I can load right up to 7mag velocity with less powder if I need it. However, my rifles sweet spot and my all around load is a 160gr at 2600fps. From Red Stag on down, it has been an amazing rifle and caliber combo.

I recently purchased a used but like new, never fired Remington 700 XCR chambered in 7 mag off the used rack at the local sporting goods store for $600. I haven't checked the numbers, but I assume it is a recent manufacture "undesireable" Remington. It shoots a 1/2" group at 100 yds with factory 150gr Remington Core Lokts. I am very impressed with this rifle. I now have 100 rounds of new brass ready for reloading. I have several friends who use 1 caliber for everything, and they are either 7 rem mag or 300 win mag. I have always wanted a 7 mag, and this one does not disappoint. I can't wait to use it on game, and to see what it will do at the range. Go buy a quality rifle chambered in 7 PRC and see what it costs! And ammo and brass for 7 mag is way more available and less expensive than 7 PRC. Ryan's recent comparison proves the 7 PRC is a marketing scheme aimed at "off the shelf long range shooters", but it does not replace the venerable 7mm Remington Magnum!

that 150 at 3000 fps is anemic I get 3100 fps with a 162 gr with no pressure in both of my 7mm rem mags. a Savage high country and a Browning x bolt speed LR. probably could get more but the accuracy is great at 3100 fps

„The Pickup Truck of Cartridges“ 😂 That should be the title of the video, such a great remark!

This is a cartridge that I have to wonder why I don't already have one. Fantastic performance!

My Garmin Chronographed 150 gr rem corelokted tipped at 3160 fps out of my 7 mag, definitely gonna be my deer round this fall!

It's nice to hear the extremely close comparison with the good old 7 rem mag and the modern 7 prc. It would also be really interesting if you could look at the comparison to the old .260 rem vs the new 6.5 creedmoor. Same barrel twist and the same bullet heads.

I own lots of calibers. Load lots of cartridges. I can push my 7 rem mag 100 fps faster than my 7 prc because my 7 rem mag is in a Remington 700 model with a long throat and I put it in a stock that has a allows long bullets. I made my cartridges .02 shorter so my sons stock Rugar M77 could shoot them w the same results. 175 Begers 3000 fps in legit 3/4 moa in both guns. The Rugar just made 2 high shoulder shots on 2 trophy white tali’s. That system is devastating to animals.

About 30 years ago I went to a gun store going out of business and bought 2 Remington Senderos one on 7 REM Mag and one on .300 Rum, both tack drivers

guys I live in Canada and when that exact bullet came out I said I have the perfect gun for that bullet and the gun Is a Tikka 7mm Mag western super light special edition and I wont lie shot 2 muhles and 2 whitetail and on moose with that cartridge.Never been happier

I have that gun and love it! Browning A bolt chambered in 7mm mag with a boss

Thats a little on the low end for the 150CX. I’m running that quite easy 3150fps out of a 26”. 162s run around 3000-3050 but then your getting the added BC. its a hammer on moose and i was a die hard 300 winny guy for a very long time until i came to the dark side. when the barrel goes ill go 7prc specifically for that new 160CX bullet. it’s impressive

Ryan what rifle did you by in 270

i was in 45 ranch enterprises in miami okla when i asked the area rep from remington when was remington going to come out with a left hand mod 700. he looked me in the eyes and said NEVER. i went to gipsons store and bought a left hand savage mod 10 in 7mm rem. six months later remington announced the left hand mod 700. i was so mad i vowed never to buy a rem rifle. i dont know what year that was im sure someone can tell me but to this day i have kept that vow and my son still has that savage. OLDIE but goodie kinda stunned me then i remember im an oldie but goody. and before someone says savage never made a mod 10 well its still stamped on the rifle

Hope you guys talk about the 28 Nosler with 170 grain copper bullet .

Never thought, I'd see the day! So excited!

just bought a new savage 110 trail hunter in 7mm rem mag med heavy barrel. pretty amazeing gun and 3 shot groups

7 mm Remington Magnum - 155 Federal Terminal Ascent. Bullet has a .586 BC. Easily pushed to 3,100 FPS. 30-06 cannot begin to compare with it at 300 & 400 yards. It will pass a 300 Win Mag beyond 500 yards with less recoil. I favor the 7mm Weatherby Magnum when reloaded with the same bullet and modern propellants you can hit 3,300 FPS. Impact velocity at 375 yards is 2,835. I bought my first 300 Win Mag in 1976. Then changed over to a 300 Wby Mag. I became a big fan of the 7mm when my 12 1/2 year old granddaughter started killing elk and managing the recoil from a 7mm Wby Mag. The 7mm Remington Magnum earned its respect with a 168 grain Matchking at 1,000 yards. The 175 Nosler Partition will handle North American and most African Game. It is an extremely versatile cartridge. Forget the belts it performs.

The lead balloon known as 284 Winchester, would be awesome too.

I've heard from old timers at the range that older reloading manuals had loads for the 7mm Rem Mag going a few hundred fps faster than modern manuals

I always have been amazed how close the trajectories of the 300 win mag and the 7 mag are.

I use a Sako A7 chambered in 7rem for target shooting, stock rifle with nightforce scope, hand loaded 162 eldm out to 1500yds love the 7mag.

Ten likes and Ryan hunts with nothing but 7mm RemMag for an entire season!

I think the same way.... I would never own one. Then I see what it can do and realize, It's a great cartridge.

Please do a pod on the 257 wby ! Lightning in a bottle and Roys favorite

this is still my favorite episode to watch because of Ryan's comments.

1:18 Ryan, I love how much you hate the 7mmRM!

Thank you Ryan. Now I can take your shots at the 7RM and laugh at them as banter. Great episode and thank you for the fun

I have the Alaskan 70 only in 7rem mag and just picked up the paddle stock mark 2 control round feed in 223 rem and both are great rifles and choices

Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌😁

11:50 is big brain time and why 30-06 still works will simple bullets. Magnums are why the partition came to be

Mark good choice in the early 700 I have the second year and they came with a stainless barrel with copper on top of that then blued because the stainless couldn’t be blued! I am giving that gun to one of my sons best friend who has only ever hunted with a 30-06 auto Remington!

Ryan hates the 7 rem mag so much!! His viewpoint is so slanted this is so funny to listen to! I love mine 155 Terminal Ascent doing 3100. Not much that won't die to that combination!

4:15 Jim! Outstandingly funny 🤣🤣🤣

First year 700 BDL in 7 mag. Doesnt get anymore nostalgic than that! I split it up and went M70 in 270 and 300 mag.😊

7 mm Rem Mag in an old Rem 700 is the one. A very good friend has his Dad's and I love it.

Dropping these nuggets on us like this! Just in time for my weekly 7mm mag confirmation bias 😂 first time 7 rem mag owner! Browning Xbolt coming in next week

My 7mm rem mag has a 1-8 26” barrel and shots 180gr bullets at around 2800fps. Works great for long range targets and you can find brass just about anywhere in the world.

I know it's about time. I'm glad you guys made this episode.

Please the 7mm saum deserves some attention!

We skated right past the fact that Ryan bought a 270??

Companies like Hornady underload their loadings for older rounds like the 7 mm RM and then introduce their new rounds loaded to the gills and pretend they are better. The 7mm RM with a 1 in 8 twist does everything a 7 PRC can do easily.

Ryan needs a Remington 700 C Grade 7mm Rem Mag. Mark needs a 6mm Rem, 7mm Rem Mag and 8mm Rem Mag for a three rifle battery for anything but the Big 5 Dangerous African Animals. Jim needs a .17 HMR in a Ruger 77 with Green Laminate Stock 24 inch barrel. Merry Christmas now you Get something Awesome !

Mark, I looked at 375 and settled on 416 rem. I have my perfect two gun safari quiver, M70 FWT 30-06 and M70 safari 416, because the 416 is still flat enough to reach out but offers considerably more energy over 375. For a one gun safari, 375. For two gun I’d split them up more. And that 416 is great fun to shoot on steel in the meantime

I’ve always wanted a rifle in 7mm rem mag

I’m here to voice the plight of the .264 win mag, that was wrongfully killed off by 7mm rem mag, and is essentially 6.5 prc performance that came out 60 years earlier. And I’m mad as hell about it.

Love these Holiday Cartridge Talks as usual. Another cartridge suggestion would be 7.35 Carcano. Or maybe a combined episode on both 6.5 and 7.35 Carcano? I have a weird fascination with 7.35.

So I finally bought a remmy mag. In a Tikka t3x. I hate to say it but I like the rifle. It shoots exceptional easy half minute. But I always said why. The Ackley will do about anything that will or close enough to not waste the extra powder . And a 300 wm hits much harder so. Why but I like this rifle I must say

Ryan, I'm sure you're right about selling 120,140 and 150's instead of 162's. I think the biggest reason is that I can never find any 162's, seems like it is always 140's and 150's

The 7 mag is a fantastic cartridge. 270 win ditto,force multiplier the 300 win mag.theÿ all make shooting at distance much easier. I gave my big 7 up for the 06.the 06 too will take game way way out there.i now went back 100 years to the 3oo savage for elk and the savage 303 for deer.the 303 will easily kill elk except its a 200 yd cartridge Think of the bowman who has to get within smelling range.the 7 rem mag really is the one rifle for anything. Ditto the 270, the 06 and especially the 300 win.for really big game a 9.3x57 a 35 Whelen or a 9.3x62. Although laws demand very large cartridges ,there's nothing that can't be done with a 270 win and a 35 Whelen 3x57

i spit my drink out! i had an a-bolt comp stalker boss back in the 90's guess what it was in.

I hadn't had a 7RM in years until this month. A friend was looking to finance his PRC and asked if I could find a buyer for his 24" Ruger Stainless synthetic 7RM with a 4-12 Leupold (stainless by appearance). Asked what he wanted for it. "Six." He brought it to me. Great hard case, 40 rounds of EcoStrike ammo. I handed him what he asked for it. I certainly don't need it in the woods and swamps of Eastern NC, but a whole lot of folks here use it for tiny whitetail inside 200 yards. If I manage to get everything ready and sell the house, I will try to find a place better suited to its purpose. Somewhere neighbors are a long way off and Northern transplants don't call the Sheriff when I walk out the door with a rifle.

Even today, the advantage of the 7mm RM is it's availabillity. There are endless cartridge/bullet combination, Midway has 24 Available offerings and then 7-08 has 21. Will build my 1st 7MM next year and juggling between 280Ai, 7RM or if hotrod 28 Nosler. It will probably be 7RM in a 3.7-3.8" OAL Action/magazine to seat out longer bullets, bit faster carbon barrel twist, but 180 grns bullets max

I consider a 270 Win close enough to 7mm for me. Ballistics, ammo availability and mag capacity are a few of its finer atributes. Seems to be a sweet spot for most med to large game. If you cant get it done with 150 gr pills @2950 you need a bigger stick (bore dia) which I have that are dedicated to large tough stuff.

Mark the 375 is great for elk and it’s recoil is not that bad more of a push! I am getting my sons into the 375 because it is still available especially if you reload and is a stopper on elk! Custom build on like I am doing then you can enjoy the process of the build too!

264 win mag next?