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I paid $125 for my 94 carbine at Target in 1979. If it was good enough for Pancho Villa it's good enough for me.

Those days are long long over

Those days might return someday. Maybe after the next civil war and all the scum are rounded up and put under the guillotine.

Yep those days are gone. Your generation was handed the greatest civilization in history and you threw it away because you couldn't resist your love for cheap Chinese plastic and wonderbread. Your generation has all the money, land and insulation from inflation for decades and none of the consequences. Must be nice.

no one gives a shit you have bought a 30-30 for $74 with your own money. That same gun costs $1200 today. You could make $2 an hour at literally any job without any kind of experience and still be able to buy your 1974 gun with a 40 hour week worth of work. I can work for $15 dollars an hour and be grateful for that pay rate and that could buy me a $1200 gun for two weeks of work. Literally Boomers can suck my left nut.

Dang - that is wild! Thanks for sharing that story with us and for tuning in, David!

And it was originally a 160 gr bullet!

The .30 Herret was developed in the TC Contender because. 30-30 does not perform well in Contender pistol barrels and .30 Contender gets more efficient burning of pistol powders in the smaller cartridge. Also, I took a doe yesterday (Dec. 23, 2020) with my Marlin .30-30 here in TX. Dropped in her tracks at ~100 yards. So, .30-30 is still getting venison in 2020!

I concur with the correction made in comments. When the model 1894 came out in 1894 ONLY blackpowder cartridges were chambered offerings, the following year, 1895, the blackpowder 38/55 cartridge case was necked down to accept a .30 caliber bullet and the first smokeless powder 30 grain loading was offered as a new 'hot rod' hunting round . It was FIRST named the 30 caliber Winchester center fire (WCF) . Later because other manufacturers chambered it as the 30/30 (being reluctant to advertise Winchester for them) .Because that name came into such wide use, Winchester began marking their guns as 30/30's as well.

@@olhippie1 : I'm not sure exactly when the rename on Winchester rifles happened, but I have a 94 from 1948 marked 30WCF, and a 94 from 1955 marked .30-30.

@@robertarmstrong2248 the herret was designed for use in the 10 inch contender barrel. When the super 14 barrel came out, the standard 30-30 gained popularity again. Same with the 35 herret and 35 Remington.

Same here a bolt action savage. Had a poor ejector i think it was tin.

I know it's hard to get right now. And if you can get it its expensive.

@@CompetitionChris very much so my friend.

I really wish things would move back to the way things were. They were just better times. Young people were more intelligent, respectful, and responsible. To be able to go to one store and come out with groceries, tools, and a rifle was really exciting. I even miss the days when you could do that at Walmart lol.

Hornady…

Oh yeah

Yes please

Yesssss

I just bought a Savage 30)30 over 20 gauge. Hope it shoots good!

Its funny how a 243 is more powerful and considered a kids or womens gun.

@@WayStedYou Agreed! I took my first deer with a .243. I know of a couple guys who use it for deer population control as well.

@@WayStedYou 243 has more velocity but more powerful it is not. I shoot both 243 and 30-30 and have to track deer much further with 243 than 30-30. The 243 is flatter shooting because of the shape and lighter projectile. Not because it is a more powerful round.

Does the job on bandits too.

Agree on the 300 savage. Gun blue did a great video on the 300 savage and aurther savage

I second the 35 Remington!

I have a Remington m81 in 300 savage I bought it out of a pawn shop for 70 bucks in the early70s it was in very good condition

I'd like to see both of these. I own one of both, and they are still my favorites to pull out of the gun cabinet

Even better, the .300's father, the .250 Savage. The Model 1920 Savage is one of the most elegant rifles ever made and its a perfect match for the .250 round.

As do I. 325-C. I finally found an original peep sight last year so I’ll be hunting it this year with a better original sight.

Don't see those very often anymore. Almost grabbed one up in the late 90's, already has a 336 at the time. So passed on it sadly

35 whelen is better and they did one

The biggest of Remington's family of rimless cartridges, it is the only one still in production. The case used for this round is different (larger) than all the other calibers featured in that series of cartridges.

An old Marlin 336 in .35 Remington was the first centerfire rifle I shot sometime around 1969. The old rifle is mine now, still smooth as butter. I love the old cartridge.

I live in Utah and hunt with a bolt action 30-30; way more fun getting closer! Cheers

Same thing happened with the 45-70 talk.

I agree with the all the resurgence in interest I think it'd be a great cartridge to cover

.270 agree! Shocking. 270 better trajectory than 6.5 creedmore.

@@travissmith-wz5nc Yeah but the thing kicks damn near as much as a 30-06. One thing I like about 6.5 Creedmoor is that it is literally all over the shelves. 30-30 is gone.

I deer hunt with my 30-30 and use a 270 for western hunting. Love both cartridges

Take you self a bear 🐻 or an elk down she had no problem at out to 100 years all day long with good hight power shell it's over and out

30-30 spitzer rounds

I hunt in central Maine and the Leverevolution ammo is what I use because of the small groups I get with it in a Marlin 336. It is all I need.

I've used a 30-30 for deer for 30 years now. Never missed and never had to track. Still my favorite deer rifle for the woods

@@OldSchoolParatrooper copy that 👍

I BELIEVE THE 225 WAS BORN FROM THE 30 30

@@stanleymarucha8194 I know you can make brass from 30-30 and it works, but they are not identical rim designs. So it’s not a direct parent case.

I used to have a 35 whelen. Man that thing could roll a whitetail like nobody's business

@Moises Clayton quiet

@Bruno Damian you too

It's interesting how accurate some calibers can be in the right gun. I never gave the 7.62x39 any credit for accuracy at all, but a friend of mine has a Ruger M77 Mark II Compact chambered in it and that rifle is MOA all day long with good ammo, and 1.5 at worse with TulAmmo.

Yep I have a savage model 340 and my first deer hunting rifle was a savage model 170 pump action rifle

Amen Brother, awesome little round one of the best varmint rounds ever

Totally .22 Hornet, would be a awesome video

The 340 was derived from the 325, so that's another bolt action .30-30.

WOW i thought the American industry was mainly helping the war effort by that Time (specially the gun industry). Not doubting your story tho just surprised.

@@agustincetra3583 True, but I'm sure hunting was still a big part of the gun culture during WWII.

And bandits

They actually made a single shot 30-30 that broke open like a single shot shotgun

I agree. That's why I still use my 336 that I've had since I was 11. For 45 years, it's been gettin' it done for me. I'd use it in hunting country where most people today wouldn't, like wide-open, high-desert country. It worked for me because of the "still hunter" way I hunted. Even in open country, my shots would most often be measured in dozens of yards rather than hundreds. I shot a pronghorn with it once at 175 yards. I've taken seven elk with it, too, most under 75 yards. It's really all the "huntin' rifle" I've ever needed, and though I have had, and currently have, more powerful, longer-ranging options, I still use that old .30-30 the most.

@@jerroldshelton9367 definitely feel like you're hunting when you're carrying a 30-30 Winchester :) I'll take mine out for the days I know I'll be covering more ground than usual. Especially those windy rainy days ☺️ It's nice to hear your stories about your rifle. Mine was sold to me thirty some years ago. I absolutely love it! Mines topped off with a Williams peep sight. Which is fairly quick attaining the target. Is there more accurate firearms.. no doubt.. but the thirty thirty has its place by a long shot :)

@@blackie1of4 I'm currently running a Williams aperture on my 336, as well, and have been for the last ten years or so. It's augmented by the use of a Merit adjustable iris aperture disc, which allows me to quickly dial in the amount of light the "peep" lets through to my eye as field conditions change. Personally, I think these old lever-action .30-30's are at their best when aperture sighted. A scope totally destroys the handling dynamics that are a big part of why I'm using the 336 in the first place, but the "peep" enhances them, via sight alignment that is "when butt hits the shoulder" instant. And, as you know, we who use the peep can still see to shoot, no matter how hard it's raining or snowing. The side-benefit, for me at least, is that with the aperture sight, I can really only take shots that are within the bounds of the .30-30's ballistic performance envelope and can't really do a shot on game that the .30-30 can't render dead meat.

@@jerroldshelton9367 couldn't agree more with your assessment. Where I'm hunting is mostly the big woods of the north east. Most game is taken inside 75 yards.. and I definitely don't see a handicap within that range. When I'm carrying it.. I expect deer within 20 yards or so.. seems to be the norm while still hunting. I've found a scoped rifle can be a handicap is those situations. Hence why my scope is 1x4x24 on my dedicated whitetail rifle. I used the 350 Legend this past season and it sure reminds of the 30-30 Winchester. Mines sports an 18 inch barrel lightweight points fast too. That's my tree stand setup ☺️

I grew up in Maine and you don’t use a scoped rifle to shoot a deer in the woods. Nothing is more comfortable to carry all day than the model 94. For most hunters in North America, particularly those who hunt in the forests there isn’t really a better cartridge. It also isn’t so powerful that it ruins meat. Some say you can eat right up to the bullet hole. I have my great grandfathers 30-30 and I still occasionally fire it. It’s a pleasure to shoot! It’s my favorite gun I own.

I see you’re a man with good tastes.

I’d add the .22wmr to that as well.

It's actually dangerous how people treat them as toys.

Dad started playing with the LR 30-30 rounds , not long after release. Think I recall him having to do a 6-8" scope adjust due to the flatter trajectory from his preferred 150gr FN load. I still stick with the tested and true RN/FN 150-170gr loads. I have other calibers for my 200+ yards hunts. Options are always good though 😉👍

I agree with you entirely. The ftx bullet and lever powder has breathed new life into that old cartridge.

30-30 is on the rebound on my store shelves. Proves how popular it is. Prices are even within reason. If I see a box of .300 Savage the tag is $60/20 or more.

Long live the savage 340 i have the car ine of my dad

What would it do that an short action cartridge won't other than make rimlock an exciting new feature?

You could probably find a single-shot in 30-30 if you don't mind a falling-block or break action. I know Thompson Center would do one.