Thanks for watching! In this video, I'll go over everything you need to know to get the most out of your MM Hunter during TWW Pre-patch! 11.0 is going to be pretty fun while we still have our tier sets from DF... if they would just fix the bugs! Changes/updates will be found here and the pinned comment. Talents used: ST: C4PAFBU0uAhOaNI6RqWjIx917BAAAAAAAAAAAAGzMzgZmZMzMzYmZmxYmxMAAAAAAAAzwYGzMzMzMZGjhZGGDzsMD2A AoE: C4PAFBU0uAhOaNI6RqWjIx917BAAAAAAAAAAAAmZmxwMGzMzMzMzYGmZMMmNAAAAAAAMDjZMzMzMzkZMGmZYMMzyMYD 📧 Discord Invite: discord.gg/pKGDsRYvYy
@brentrealin7070 there's currently a bunch of bugs, one cancels rapid fire when you're using Kill Zone. It'll be fixed soon. Also, make sure if you're in Valdrakken, you're not hitting the big rock golem dummy as he's for tanks only. I've had that be the answer before lol. They'll get the bugs ironed out this week.
Amazing video. I'm not even a hunter player and I still found this very educating I wish there was someone who'd post a fury warrior guide this smooth and comprehensive
Thank you so much for watching! I've really tried to add more information to these videos for all skill/knowledge levels. I really appreciate the kind message! If I knew more about fury maybe I could make something, but I only know enough to get through the Mage Tower encounter lol. I've changed how I approach and put these videos together based on viewer feedback over the last couple tiers. Glad to see it's working!
Thank you so much for this video. I myself just started to level a MM hunter in the prepatch in search of a new main and this video was GOLD! I am beating some other hunters in DPS while being lower ilvl than them thanks to your video friend!
Bro thank you so much for all the work you put into this. I cannot express my thanks enough. You are the first I come to for everything now. Last night I went to your beta build and copied that and it got me through until now. Really appreciate it. So good!
@sethshaffer8592 thank you for watching!! It's really great to hear I could be a small part of your MM journey! Keep in mind, there's lots of bugs currently in the pre patch and I expect those to get ironed out sometime this week. There's some blue posts about it. Is there anything you would want to see added to the guide? I have a season 1 guide to start working on 😅
@@MrEggplant everything is excellent. Very well explained. Your explanation and talent break down has improved my damage significantly. Especially in M+.
Hey, hey! Thank you for watching my video! It's always nice to hear that I'm helpful, I do really appreciate that. I'll have more actual content out in the coming days/next week (once the bugs are gone..) and my live streams will come back once TWW officially launches next month. I hope you'll continue to hang out! Cheers! - Tyler
Your videos are divine. I shall cosplay as your avatar upon the next solstice. May your enemies know your dread and your allies be filled with the spirit of the divine might of the Quilboar god Agamaggan.
Great, now I have to itch to go play Hardcore, only to die in another RFK run :) Thank you for watching and I cannot wait to vanquish our foes together again in TWW!
Thank you as always for watching :) I can't believe it's been 5+ years already... time flies when you're having fun! Glad I could be a small part of your MM Hunter journey!
That's awesome, thank you for watching! I actually cleaned them up and updated them this morning if you'd like to check them out over on my discord! I'll keep them updated all xpac long. Cheers!
Hey @MrEggplant how does it come, that you never press Multishot to get trick shots? i wonder because my Aimed Shot and Rapid Fire do Single Target DMG if i dont use Multishot before. Thanks for your answer and great video!!
Hey Mark! It's because of the season 4 tier set from dragonflight. Volley gives you trick shots for 6 seconds and when you use rapid fire while you have trick shots up, it gives you another 6 seconds of trick shot. So you can just continue to extend your volley for as long as you have your rapid fire up.
I appreciate the time you put in to this man. I'm not happy with the nerfs at all. I only play this game for pvp at max level. Pre-release is neutered pvp. So I won't be touching MM till release.
Damage it pretty good in AOE at 80, I haven't compared our ST to other classes though. The tier set bonuses really need work because you basically don't use them during your trueshot, which feels pretty bad. I don't test PvP, so I'm not sure on that one :/
Thank you for watching! Do you like the updated video set up? I've been trying some new things over the last couple tiers and I think it's been helping!
It sure is! If Blizzard would fix the bug it has currently.. that'd be great lol. It's currently interrupting RF with our tier bonus. It's a known issue and I hope they fix it soon. Thank you for watching!!
@sethshaffer8592 you can put the point in hydra's bite, in the rhythm, deathblow, etc. You have several options. You can even drop your point in one of the ammos or bulletstorm to pick up barrage and rapid fire barrage. Those are all options for M+.
I was playing beast mastery before quit the game but just came back and wanted to try something diff. Do you think this class is good to learn right now? I was checking videos to see things about this class and your video is amazing. Everything explained appreciate it a lot
Greetings! Welcome back to the game! I would say this is an awesome time to learn MM hunter (but I am biased.) Season 3 and season 4 of DF was so much fun to play a MM hunter and our rotation/playstyle doesn't change a ton in TWW. I would say give it a shot, do some dungeons, get a feel for using Trueshot, for getting your trick shots up for every aimed/rapid fire and just do some keys. Screw up. Make mistakes. It's the best way to learn :) For example, in my M+ runs that I post several times a week on my channel, I'm making goals for myself. Try different talents, different trinkets and to send Trueshot constantly. Work on focus spending so you whittle the cooldown of the ability as low as you can. Because that's the best way to increase your damage in TWW. Work on getting 1min-1:15 Trueshots. I hope that helps and send me a message anytime if you have questions!
@tinag9618 Delves aren't in the prepatch and anyone can get the tier set with the catalyst. I'll have a fresh guide for season 1 of TWW. Thank you for watching!
So a ST opener is the abilities that you want to start an encounter with, so you can do the most damage as possible when you're in your TS window. The rotation after that is just the different priorities you need to follow to the most damage out of your character during the "valley of our dps". MM hunter bursts, then hits a valley dps wise, then bursts, then valley, so on and so forth. For M+, you'll have different talents than the ST build in the video, since ST is for raid. You'll just want to do everything the AoE rotation does and if you're on a ST boss in a M+, just don't use your arcane shot during Trueshot and sub out your Multi-Shot use for Arcane shot.
Didn’t played sow since early BFA, my main was a hunter, and i’m tempted to return to WW, so do you think hunter mm/bm will be in a good state in this expansion? I mostly do pvp and some m+ dungeons :)
I know I'm going to have fun with my MM hunter. We're in a really good spot in the pre-patch and we're still seeing tuning changes on the beta. Currently, I'll be playing a Sentinel MM Hunter and there's a lot of great passive damage and our trees are looking much better than alpha/early beta. Dark Ranger is what's seeing some tuning, thought I haven't tested it in it's buffed form in the beta yet.
ngl i was kinda bummed when i realized the new barrage didn't work in ST, it could have been so cool and harmless (plus it feels like the old mop barrage) if it allowed ST targeting since it would just be a 150% rapid fire every min
@ripedroxx it's hard to add it to the build for ST. It just becomes a rapid fire with a longer CD that also costs 2 more points in the tree. It's better in AoE but spending 2 points for it is still steep. And it's kinda weird to play around in an aoe opener atm (slow).
I can send you a talent build tonight if you'd like! (I'm at work right now). What PvP would you be doing? For arena, you usually want to run with a pet, but for BGs you do not. Let me know and I'll get back to you tonight! Thank you for watching!
¡Hola! ¡Gracias por ver mis videos! No diría que soy un maestro, solo tengo mucha práctica en mi especificación favorita. Sólo soy testarudo. Estoy usando el traductor de Google, así que lo siento mucho si el español no es perfecto. ¡Pero aprecio tu apoyo y no puedo esperar a ver qué haces en la guerra interna!
I haven't seen that yet! We don't have to deal with hero talents yet in the pre-patch, so they have some time to get them right. Thank you for sharing though. I'll start working on my season 1 guide in the coming weeks as the official launch gets closer. I really hope they will not just buff damage but also focus regeneration and the tier set, since it feels TERRIBLE to play with during Trueshot.
Hey again! I posted my in-game string on your other comment, but I'm not sure if you'll be able to import it that way. If you join my discord, I can send it to you on there! There's an invite in the description of my video! Thanks for watching my friend :)
@user-ee2ze9zv1m did you put a space after the nochanneling bit? There can't be a space. #showtooltip Arcane Shot /cast [nochanneling:rapid fire]Arcane Shot
Can you clarify the macro for Volley/Salvo? When you put it in as presented, it says it doesnt recognize the [AT] part. And on discord, this isnt in the text file on discord. Thank you!
Good morning, Doug! So when it says [at] it's supposed to be [@cursor] but the text I used made it a little written out at.. that's so odd and I didn't catch that. I'll update it in my future videos. The macro would look like this: #showtooltip Volley /cast Salvo /cast [@cursor] Volley I'll get it added to the document at lunch, I could have sworn it was on there. Thank you for the heads up! I hope you found my video helpful :)
Absolutely did. Made 2 tiny changes based on my playstyle. In the main tress, I moved points to trailblazer and the other speed boost. Removed the implosion trap and can’t remember the other for that.
@@Magik160 Yeah that's totally fine! There's a ton of flexibility in the general hunter tree based on what you'll be facing in an encounter or dungeon. It's great!
Hey there! So in TWW, if you want mythic track items, equal to mythic raiding, the only way you get them is from completing a 10 or higher in your vault. Hero track, like it is now, is the max you can get from end of dungeon rewards. The only difference from DF is that they pushed it back to doing a 10 to get the max reward, from an 8. Keep in mind, an 8 = 18 from season 3 of DF and a 10 = 20 from season 3 of DF. I haven't worked on the BIS gear list yet, but you can expect to have a mix of M+ and raid items.
@@MrEggplantok thanks I normally get all in 23 both weeks (old system) before I burn out in a season what I have found in prev. Expansion is that I needed to raid for Bis gear like weapon and trinket etc so was just wondering if Blizzard had changed their approach in ragards to “Raid or Die” gear philosophy in TWW
I know that there will be other avenues to get gear, like Delves, but I didn't test any of those. I'm not sure what ilvl that gear goes up to. My guess is that there will be a great trinket or something like that from raid, but if you do a lot of M+, you should do just fine.
Hey SlowBloke! (Love the name btw), I'm not even just thinking for MM either. I think it would be worth a point to allow you to lust without a certain pet family out for BM and Surv and without a pet in general for MM. That way BM and Surv could run with a movement speed pet or a health pet and I could just click a button. :D I've been asking for that for a few xpacs now though.. I'm just whittling them down! ;)
@MrEggplant anyway you could share your UI import code on your discord? My UI is completely screwed from this patch and would love a reference! Great video! Thanks for all the hard work.
Hey! I could do that, yeah! I have a new different addons working behind the scenes to get my UI exactly the way I want it. I thought about creating a quick video as well for my UI and addon set up.. would that be something you'd be interested in seeing? If you'll leave me a note on discord and tag me, I'll reply with my UI import code when I get home!
@@jackbomb9919 thank you! I'm glad you found it helpful ☺️ what are you liking forward to the most in TWW? I'll also have a guide every season, so the new one will be out in a month!
@hakangunes9895 yeah it's noticeable. Sentinel will help a little bit with that once we hit 80. If they want us to use WA and Readiness, they'll need to tune it a little higher. Currently it's not super smooth on the beta at 80.
I don't really but any weight in tier lists. I've played MM when it was D tier and I've played it when it's in S tier. I'm seeing a lot of great damage right now at a 564 ilvl. Doing good damage in both ST and AoE. Even if we are B tier, I'll be beating the dps in A/S tiers, most of the time at least :D
@@MrEggplant What ilvl are you in this video? I am using the exact same build for both ST and AOE, i have 4 piece, greiftorch and algethar puzzle box, and I am not hitting near the same numbers. But I am only 497 atm.
@hernan5310 correct, I talk about that in the video. It's something that there's a blue post on and they're currently working on it. Kill Zone is the way to go when it's fixed, for now I would put that point in another talent. Hopefully it'll be fixed by Tuesday 🙏
haha thank you! This video has really got a lot of new viewers and boost from people like you, so thank you so much for that! I hope you found it useful. - Tyler
I actually posted this prematurely. I just started using the build you showed for single target and I was actually looking to put that on my bar. I didn’t know how it worked. I’m fairly new to wow and it doesn’t help that I’m a total moron when it comes to this game.
@mobiscuits8036 no no no, you're fine 🤠 it used to be a separate ability in DF, but now it passively replaces Aimed Shot every so often. It doesn't help when it's currently bugged and doesn't change on your bars like it did in the beta. Welcome to the game and let me know if you have any questions! I'm always here to help 🫡
@@MrEggplant the trick shots one if u can and if u have rotation for the single in m+ will be nice cuse i feel like im so bad in single rn after i switched from bm to mm
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@@kero68 It's pretty similar for M+ at ST, just without wailing arrow. You'll want to have your TS up for boss pulls and go Explosive Shot, Volley, TS, rapid, aimed, aimed, rapid.. etc just use rapid if it's off cd and then use aimed until you're out of your TS window.
Great information here ..but why oh why are you standing right next to the dummies with a hundred other people right next to you? Dude, you're SHOWING us the spells and rotation, not telling us, so wouldn't it be nice to stand far enough away to see any of it? Preferably in a less chaotic area? I'm always shocked when professional creators don't understand this
Well I really appreciate being called a professional creator :) I'll get flamed either way. I'm a clicker because I don't have full control of one hand because of an accident as a kid. I just learned to get around that by clicking when I started playing WoW in 2007. Clicking is heavily criticized, which I found out when making RU-vid videos. So I'd get flamed if you see me drag and drop my volley. And my work around that was to have a macro just for my guides to auto drop my Volley at my feet, so I wouldn't get flamed as much. I'm sorry you didn't like my work around, but I'll also be honest MM doesn't have a ton of cool animations or special effects to see. I totally get where you're coming from with it being chaotic though. I wish there were more dummies around to show this sort of thing without everyone else's spells going off on the screen. Thanks for watching - Tyler
@@MrEggplant Oh I don't mind at all if you click or execute a bit slower, I'm just talking about stand far enough back so we can see the spells, and being away from giant crowds so their testing abilities aren't clouding yours
@@JohnnyFiction I'll definitely go back to that in the future then. Better check out my season 1 guide to keep me honest :) like I said, I wish there were more areas to test away from people. But there's only so many places to go. Thank you for watching my content, it does mean a lot to me!
I really appreciate that. This video is really getting views so far! Did you like the presentation in the video? Was there anything not clear or could be explained more? I've been doing these videos differently in the last couple tiers and people seem to like them better this way. Thank you again!