I mean. At times evidence at least showed in this video the McMahons aren't terrible people. Or at least want the best for their workers. Imagine your a wrestling promoter and one guy comes up to you saying he really wants to be a Nazi as his gimmick, another guy wants to get breast implants paid for by the company and kiss people without consent. One of your workers stabs people when he takes a botched bump or you get in his face and one of your female wrestlers is committed to a "rape" angle but is uncomfortable with the writers proposing she is a man? Do you let go of the liabilities and help those that clearly need the mental reassurance? Or do you go full steam ahead? Although some of Vinces' ideas aren't always great. After some time and seeing fans reactions - he at least takes a minute to think about what went wrong and approach the writers about how they can completely change or scrap the really controversial problems.
To be honest, having Carliro be behind to the attack on Cena, considering his family's history, is not in much bettertaste than having New Jack be behind the attack.
@HMontages 123 His dad Calrlos Colon killed, some say murdered, Bruiser Brody by stabbing him to death in Puerto Rico. It was ruled self defence,but a lot of old school wrestlers think other wise.
@@rogermorris9696 That's wrong. The guy , who stabbed Brody was José Huertas González, known as Invader 1. He wrestled in the WWC, which was founded by Carlos Colon.
From the video, Stephanie definitely seems like a more rational voice behind the scenes. Shooting down both incest storylines, and the "melina is a man" story. Both of those would have been idiotic and in bad taste, so definitely a good call by her.
I think they made a good decision to pass on New Jack. He was OK on ECW, but he always meant a lot of trouble and controvercy and he wasn't that good that it would have been worth it to deal with all that stuff.
@@ramialejel If WWE Wants To Compete With AEW? They Need People Like New Jack Or Else They Will Never Compete With AEW Cuz AEW Is Killing WWE Right About Now
Well basicly nothing is of the table in wwe, murder, terrorism, rape, incest, sex changes, abortions even breaking and entering peoples homes with weapons afther work hours or draging someone behind a motorcycle on a chain
The AJ and Ambrose story would have been great. It would have fit both characters, and maybe made for a good push for both characters. It would have made the "Lunatic Fringe" gimmick make a lot more sense. Also in my opinion D-X Kane would have been awesome!
Vlad: So, you stabbed John Cena? New Jack: Yeah. Vlad: Like what (laughing) why? New Jack: The muthafucka came to me and told me what he wanted to do in our match... We didn’t talk after that
Beaver and the Stephanie angle are probably due to some issues Vince didn't deal with well. He did a Playboy interview where he suggested he was sexually abused by his mother or step mother, can't remember which it was.
I was so mad when Kane said "suck iiiiiit," that I legit hated DX for a little while. It just made Kane seem pathetic to me. Dude was on par with Taker at one point and now he's got 2 words for us? No.
Whenever Masked Kane said anything it ruined his character. Glenn Jacobs would always use some awful, "creepy" voice like a teenager trying to sound scary instead of just talking with his naturally deep voice.
I actually really love the idea of a Kane outfit that was a DX variant it would have looked really cool. It would have been a cool part of his gimmick if Kane had a variant outfit for every Tag Team or Stable he joined especially an NWO Variant if he had joined that stable & a better looking Corporate Authority Kane outfit incorporating the mask too
When it comes to incest storylines, they laid the groundwork for one with Paul and Katie Lea Burchill. They were billed as siblings but it was implied they were in a relationship. It ended when the company went PG.
New jack shouldn't be able to work anywhere. I think kane's green, and black look would have been cool for a bit. Probably would have gotten over with the fans too.
Madigan really felt strongly about that idea. Everyone else thought it was a dud. The idea would probably work well in the 80s and early 90s maybe but probably not at that time. Storytelling can be difficult. The person writing the idea might think it's the best thing ever but no one else does or thinks it's absolutely terrible. I know the feeling of pitching ideas only for people to say it's not good or just not say anything at all. The idea would probably be better than what WWE has nowadays. The sport entertainment aspect of pro wrestling is practically dead where they're concerned so anything is better than nothing.
Iwould have liked to see Dean Ambrose and AJ Lee as WWE'S version of Bonnie and Clyde. The Shield turned out to be better for ambrose in hindsight, but at that time, so before the shield and especially as the program with Mick Foley was off the table, that idea is still pretty good for bringing him in.
I wanna know more about the Heidenreich one. The way I've always heard it told, it seems like everybody seems to let him do the whole pitch. the concept that Vince would let him do the whole thing THEN leave is funny to me. It sounds almost like he was hoping it might get better, then just had nothing.
The Ambrose and AJ story would’ve worked so well. She was already insane and bringing in him would’ve added so much more to a slightly getting stale AJ.
Green Kane by joining DX would've been boring . Also there are currently rumor is that Blue Kane is going to make his WWE debut and that will be revealed as Big Cass
The Mel Mann gimmick, haha I used to train with a UK based wrestling promo that worked alongside TNA BEFORE TNA got on television, it's called 4FW. They're still around today and through them I managed to meet some of the current and former WWE /WCW/TNA stars, names such as Sabu actually do shows with them even to this day. Anyway to the point, there was a guy who actually used the mailman gimmich really well, although I image a British mailman being a little different looking to one's in America, with finishing moves like " the special delivery" it worked out really well!
I love this channel! as a fan of wrestling it had been out for years now, and to be able to learn about storyline that never happened is pretty cool, some of them on the other hand could have possibly work, like Kane wearing green for D generation X, but by wrestling also being entertainment it probably would have not been appropriate to see some of those stories on television.
If the AJ/ Dean thing happened, it could end as AJ gets better and stops dean from being crazy but fails, then roman and seth come up and helps dean against her as she joins the wyatt family or authority. The shield would then be born.
Oh man, Katie Vick and Mae Young birthing a hand should have been in this list. Those were some of the of the sickest things I've seen in wrestling. So dumb that they approved those.
Ambrose and Aj would have worked so well. They’re both “crazy” woulda been epic. But the shield was good maybe if she was there when the shield broke up they coulda pulled it off
Kevin Eck said that the reason that the Foley/Ambrose storyline fell through was because Foley took issue with something Ambrose said on social media and, while that is true, it ended up being a misunderstanding. Foley himself says that they were back on after working things out but the reason things never happened was him failing his impact test!
I'm german and after Vince McMahon refused to use the frozen Nazi soldier gimick for Heidenreich I was thankfull that he dissaproved using this cliche which is the greatest insult for the people in my country. But after I heard he actually thought it was a good idea to make himself the father of his daughter's child for the sake of a storyline I was like WTF is wrong with you?! This man seems to be more than just a little crazy. Goldust with breast implants? Thanks. Now I've got this picture in my head. He would have been one hell of a one man freak show and I'm sure that more than one fan would piss his/her pants while laughing.
For some reason Vince likes incest storylines. When talking about Stephanie's pregnancy and how Vince suggested first that he would be the kayfabe father of the baby and then that Shane would, you mentioned the "Beaver Cleavage" storyline, but there is another one Vince tried to push. When Alicia Webb worked for WWF as "Ryan Shamrock" the kayfabe sister of Ken Shamrock, Vince pitched an incest storyline to them, to which Ken said hell no.
I can see it now New Jack vs John Cena and the fans go wild chanting Let's go Cena, Cena sucks then they lock up and New Jack pulls a taser and knife out his pocket and the chants change to Let's go Cena to Cena's dead
