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11 Reasons why Recording on a PC is better than MAC! 

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Mac Snobs & the claims of being "superior" to PC. Here are 11 very good reasons why they're dead wrong. Grab the SMG C-Blocker FREE TRIAL here: www.spectredigital.com/produc...
0:00 I've Used PCs & Macs Extensively
0:43 The Prices
2:04 Apple Is A Lifestyle Brand
4:04 Mac Stability Isn't All That
5:20 Customizability
6:48 Upgradability
7:54 Apple Abandoned Their Hardware
8:59 The Sound Is The Same
10:14 Hackintosh
11:29 More Options For Free Plugins
12:48 It's 2021, Not 1991
14:06 You Already Have A PC
15:48 Outro & Bloopers
About Spectre Sound Studios:
I'm Glenn Fricker, engineer here at Spectre Sound Studios. I love making records, and after doing it for sixteen years, I want to pass on what I've learned. On my channel you can find tutorials on how to record guitar, bass, real drums and vocals. There's reviews and demos of tube amps, amp sims, drums, mics, preamps, outboard gear, Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar, and plugin effects.
We've covered Moon on the Water, played Bias FX, given you the absolute best in Stupid Musician Texts, ranted & raved about bass guitar, and this channel is where The Eagle has Landed.
Everything you've wanted to learn about recording Hard Rock & Heavy Metal can be found right here on this channel!
I also respond to your comments & questions: The best make it into the SMG Viewer's Comments series of videos. Loads of fun, lots of laughs.
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@kevinyoung6605
@kevinyoung6605 2 года назад
Anyone who's worked on both platforms knows they both have strengths and weaknesses over each other. Regardless of which one you use, they will both inevitably piss you off royally.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus 2 года назад
Truer words. Though I do hate windows more.
@James_Dawes
@James_Dawes 2 года назад
Chrome os is the best operating system to record on 🤣
@milhousevanhoutan9235
@milhousevanhoutan9235 2 года назад
As someone who currently uses both on a daily basis, I can confirm. Though unlike the Krampus, I hate macos far more because it hides too much damn information and won't let me dial down the security a bit, which for most users is good but for a so called "power user" (I hate that phrase) is just annoying as shit to constantly have to enter your password or give a bio-metric authentication every time you make a tiny change, or even worse a temporary change, to settings, then you have to lock everything back up behind you....
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@kevinellis4729
@kevinellis4729 2 года назад
@@Emcfree2084 What are you even talking about with 'provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production'? That is straight BS, and it's clear you're basing your opinion on a very limited and anecdotal sample-size, and very little expertise on the topic. I recently built my new studio-PC in a Cooler Master Silencio case which is designed specifically for sound-deadening (really wasn't even needed because I used Noctua fans) and it is a screamingly fast machine. I literally cannot hear it even if I stick my ear up against it. I've used many macs and none have been this silent. I get the feeling you're talking about laptops, and if so then whatever. Most professional installations are not going to base their design around a laptop.
@greglane334
@greglane334 2 года назад
Only real reason I prefer PCs is because when something breaks,I like to be able to fix it. My GPU died a few months ago,all I did was get a new one,plug it in,update drivers and bam. If I can't fix it I don't want it
@michaelhendricks9462
@michaelhendricks9462 2 года назад
Same here. I tweak, majorly customize, and repair everything I own. If I can't I have no interest in it.
@stormpaul3066
@stormpaul3066 2 года назад
Mac guy here, not butt hurt and generally agree with what you said. I personally just like the Mac OS (despite a few enraging moments). As someone who also works in IT and deals with a roughly equal amount of PCs and Macs, they both suck in their own ways, Mac is just what I'm most comfortable and can work fluently in. The most important thing is using a system you know and like to use, for me, my PC is an auxiliary piece of equipment I use if there is something my Mac doesn't do, like a few plugins and of course gaming.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
He was objectively wrong on every point.
@Jmdeclue
@Jmdeclue 2 года назад
I am a 30 yr it, sw and db vet, that spent decades on everything from ibm mainframes, att sys 5, novell, nt, silicon graphx, windows, unix, linux, etc. I built out my first home studio 20+ yrs ago with cakewalk, then sonar, cubase and tried reaper later. Around 2008 or so I got my first Mac book pro and I slapped a VM of windows for my dev environment and I liked it. It was a nice laptop. Then I got into playing around with the midi/audio setup and realized that everything is stupid simple on the macbook. Connect multiple interfaces and merge them into one, connect midi controllers and keyboards and it sees them all and just works. Played with garageband and it was able to do what my homestudio did, but easier. About 3 yrs ago I bought a new macbook pro, got Logic Pro X and haven’t looked back since. Its 200 bucks and I don’t have to pay upgrades every year, which is nice. All plugins work as do Logic upgrades. Everything is stupid simple. I later got an ipad and the integration is incredible, remotely controlling logic is amazing with an iPad. I finally quit android just last week and got an iphone and I am blown away by the integration with everything. It just works and works well. When IT is your career it sucks to have to “support” your own stuff at home and it seemed I spent a lot of time maintaining my pc studio. Anyway, I am much more happy with my setup now as opposed to my previous ones. Cheers
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
@@Jmdeclue yes this is the view of many people, but wouldn’t get as many clicks or opportunities to rant his personal opinion
@hannes1734
@hannes1734 2 года назад
@@Emcfree2084 Also the point that macs are far more expensive?
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
@@hannes1734 yes he is either ignorant or being misleading on that too
@rroobbeerrtt121
@rroobbeerrtt121 2 года назад
Thanks Glenn for the wonderful information!!! Keep kicking ass!!!
@icestorm_rb9057
@icestorm_rb9057 2 года назад
Based on Glenn's recent track record, we might see a video on [insert number] of reasons why recording on a MAC is better than PC. The possibility is there.
@DerekPower
@DerekPower 2 года назад
I’m counting on it … and it’s cool because ultimately, every choice has trade-offs.
@Hermiel
@Hermiel 2 года назад
Yup.
@sgeggbub1008
@sgeggbub1008 2 года назад
And a linux video maybe lollll
@sonyperl4522
@sonyperl4522 2 года назад
X)
@ScottFuckinRitchie
@ScottFuckinRitchie 2 года назад
Yeah when he said the apple user is waiting to get their machine repaired, the pc user will be getting things done…yeah trying to get their drivers installed lol
@allendean9807
@allendean9807 2 года назад
The Mac Pro is insanely priced… I do my music production with a Mac mini, and for the most part, works great.
@nordicomsystems8841
@nordicomsystems8841 2 года назад
I've been wanting to try one of those. I've been using a 2017 MacBook Pro that was ordered direct from Apple and upgraded to a 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM...but the 3.2GHz i5 limits what I can do in Logic a bit. I'll have to look into a M1 Mini for sure.
@vladdyvansavage8760
@vladdyvansavage8760 2 года назад
Got a 2nd hand 2011 iMac last year and it's fantastic for recording & music production. Can't go back to using a PC after having a Macbook since 2009.
@thezetes
@thezetes 2 года назад
@@nordicomsystems8841 Got the Mac mini M1 . 1300 Dollars (16GB ram) and I am currently running 225 tracks film score (orchestral recording 24b/48k, electronic parts etc) while playing the fhd film. I would have ripped the film SD if I would experience some C/G-PU issues, but I am not.
@mvh2275
@mvh2275 2 года назад
late 2012 Mac Mini i5 16g ram works perfect.
@vladdyvansavage8760
@vladdyvansavage8760 2 года назад
@@mvh2275 cool. Never had one. Started off with a Macbook pro in 2009 and 2 years ago the battery blew up for some reason, case got warped..so got a new battery installed and it actually kinda works just takes ages to boot up.
@fistofflymo
@fistofflymo 2 года назад
It's always fun listening to Glenn ranting. Also fun how only the plugin part was about actual recording. Fun video, weird title :D
@louisburley1597
@louisburley1597 2 года назад
I enjoyed this. I've been a PC guy my whole life building my own. I recently bought the 14" MacBook pro and it's nuts how fast it is. Full disclosure though I don't do just music. I do photo and video work as well.
@Dgarig665
@Dgarig665 2 года назад
My girlfriend, a wonderfully tolerant woman, wandered into the living room just as your video was concluding with that elegant belch. Did great things for improving my standing with her as a cultured, educated 50 year old. Great video, anyhow.
@nordicomsystems8841
@nordicomsystems8841 2 года назад
I just turned 50 last month. Live long and prosper dude lol ✌🏼
@Dgarig665
@Dgarig665 2 года назад
@@nordicomsystems8841 I was the month before, belated happy birthday.
@Herfinnur
@Herfinnur 2 года назад
The struggle is real. I'll watch three long- winded, high-brow video essays and wash them down with a Jacob Bronowski interview, but she'll inevitably look in on me as soon as I throw in a Quick CinemaSins or Joel Haver video
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS 2 года назад
I got a 2 year old used HP laptop for £130 Runs most music applications just fine. Heck I have a 15 year old desktop PC that still runs faster then many laptops today.
@mk7073
@mk7073 2 года назад
@David Garig Thanks, that made me proper chuckle 😁
@paulmdevenney
@paulmdevenney 2 года назад
Glen: Clearly lays out reasons he can judge the experience on both platforms Butthurts: "You're just biased against macs because you don't know how awesome they are." Smarties: "I wonder how many days before the "reasons to pick macs" video comes out"
@ExpatZ266
@ExpatZ266 2 года назад
Might be a while, Glenn sounds like he did when he was on about ProTools, only a little more direct and to the point here while making apple sauce.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@BeastlyAnteater
@BeastlyAnteater 2 года назад
@@Emcfree2084completely agree, this video is so stupid
@paulmdevenney
@paulmdevenney 2 года назад
@@Emcfree2084 Many things you say are valid. Reliablility just simply isn't true. I look after IT for a 300 person company, and issues with Macs are no more or less common than with windows.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
@@paulmdevenney I agree. Mac's are not designed for the corporate environment, that's where PC is going to be much more suitable. However for recording engineers and people who want a device that will go for best part of 10 years and still be usable and have resale value, that's where you would get a Mac.
@danjocastro
@danjocastro 2 года назад
Glenn, your videos just keep getting more and more solid. Love the bluntness, love the honesty and love the style. “30 frames per second LOOKS LIKE SHIT!” Gems in every episode 😂
@Dan_Mahoney
@Dan_Mahoney 2 года назад
This was awesome! I upgraded my drum room and synth room computers to Windows 11 and everything still works just grand.
@Daniel_Batal
@Daniel_Batal 2 года назад
Spot on. I run both but my main focus is video editing. The m1 line is great with software built on Apple architecture (like DaVinci Resolve) but the lack of customization capabilities or even things like the number of accessible ports makes the Apple experience sometimes frustrating. Dongles, anyone?
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 2 года назад
Get a 21012 tower. Fix anything. And still I still the beAst. It's what we all still use, besides the new M1
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 2 года назад
Don't get me started about video plug-ins not wotking after an Apple cash-grab. I mean update.
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio 2 года назад
New MacBook pros have HDMI, sD card slot and 3 thunderbolt 4 buses.
@djsusan00
@djsusan00 2 года назад
I mean if you wanna shell out the cash, the new MacBook pros have ports again and magsafe. Im glad I waited. Finally apple is putting a "contender" in the mix. No pun intended. Another edit. Glenn has a point about the coffee shop hipster thing, I would never do that. I have bad social anxiety. Unless you know I'm out of town or someshit, that's different I feel like.
@IceGene
@IceGene 2 года назад
Since you're also a viewer of this channel is it safe to assume that you also do some metal music production even maybe just as a hobby? I'd very much like to know how the M1 is with the kind of stuff metal DAW sessions would need.
@JasonTMays
@JasonTMays 2 года назад
Im a Mac user that loves your videos, I will say I've seen plenty of professional studios being ran on Mac minis, the new M1 Macs for what they offer are vastly cheaper than the intel Macs from yesteryear. But, anyone that advocates for "Right to Repair" shouldn't' disagree with you in regards to serviceability. Thanks for the video! thoroughly enjoyed it!
@Jolst
@Jolst 2 года назад
Switched to an m1 mini setup within the last few months and it’s so much smoother than my old pc
@braunhausmedia
@braunhausmedia 2 года назад
Not butt hurt at all, but after decades of PC use (also building, etc.), I switched to Mac and found the experience much better. Just my personal preference. I agree however that the whole lifestyle nonsense is complete bullshit. That said, my Macs have always lasted longer than my PCs (which I still use for some tasks). I'm currently writing this on a 2013 iMac that I hammer on a daily basis and it isn't even close to dying, which pretty much mitigates the cost difference. With PCs, I was replacing or rebuilding every couple years. Bottom line, like anything else it all comes down to what you prefer. There is no wrong choice.
@telephreak
@telephreak 2 года назад
Im with. you on that. I have 2 2015 Macbook Airs that I use. The OS still works (and is up to date) and havent had any issues.
@josearaujo8616
@josearaujo8616 2 года назад
Honestly, how can a professional be in one ecosystem and change to other, the amount of money you need would be insane. Licenses don't transfer from windows to mac, so all this after decades of using one I changed to other is a lot of BS. specially in professional applications.
@joshshultz1250
@joshshultz1250 2 года назад
I mean... you were rebuilding and upgrading your PC because you can do that with PCs. If I bought a mac I'd cling to it til it died too...
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 года назад
I'm replying to your comment on a PC I bought in 2013. I put in a fancy video card in 2014 to play GTA V (hard to believe they still haven't gotten VI out yet). Sadly had to replace the original hard drive with an SSD in 2016 or so (but all hard drives fail). Since then it's been issue free. It's not my main computer, but I have it attached to my TV in the living room to watch my stories and occasionally fire up a game or two.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@AlexanderCuka
@AlexanderCuka 2 года назад
great video mr. Glenn , love the solar T in the back, how it works on you studio project, greeting from Ecuador
@CluntEstwode
@CluntEstwode 2 года назад
I started on and have been using Logic for a decade now, and its just what I'm used to using. I'd been using Macbook Pros throughout that time, and they'd had a variety of issues because of their Intel cpus, prices etc. This year I picked up the Macbook Air M1 model and for what it does and the price it sells at it is a fantastic little machine. The only problem I have with it is the exclusively USB C ports, but the compromise to that is a USB dock.
@mercymourning3853
@mercymourning3853 2 года назад
yes the M1 is amazing considering its all in ONE little chip. this is just a teaser of the future. soon we will be able to do full music sessions on our ipads or iphones, androids
@larzblast
@larzblast 2 года назад
@@mercymourning3853 Oh hell no. Think about what intensive operations such as a bunch of tracks and plugins will do to the electronics in such a cramped little space like a phone. Shit will get hot, that will have a significant effect on the longevity of your components for the simple fact that heat kills. It's nice to have portability where the situation calls for it but in a reasonably fixed environment, as a studio is, it makes more sense to have a desktop unit which can breathe and last you much longer - unless you like to part with your money on a regular basis like all the upgrade junkie wankers who get bored with the tech in their phones every six months.
@larzblast
@larzblast 2 года назад
To be fair, Clunt, a lot of the other manufacturers tend to follow what Apple does in some ways. I got a Dell XPS laptop from work and while it is an i9 beast with 64GB of RAM, it has only USB-C ports on it, so I've had to buy a USB-C stick for carting files around if need be. Yes, there is the docking station they gave me as well but even that fucking thing only has three USB 2.0 ports on it!
@felipemorales8444
@felipemorales8444 2 года назад
For sure agree with the USB-C ports limitation
@CluntEstwode
@CluntEstwode 2 года назад
​@@larzblast The stress tested limit is somewhere in the 200 tracks in Logic X (this is the non-native form on the M1 chips, mind you), using multiple independent plugins on each track all working in unison. It doesn't even really get much above "warm". I'm not mixing multimillion dollar productions in my basement, I'm fuckassing around making things I like for Uni. I haven't had a single snag on processing power. I still use a heap of Synths, guitar plugins, processing plugins etc. If its not your thing, fair enough. It works great for me, and it has had none of the issues I'd used to experience with Intel chip Macbooks in the years prior. As far as I'm concerned, its a great investment. It does the job I want it to do.
@EliasJackson
@EliasJackson 2 года назад
I would never tell anyone that they NEED a Mac for audio production, that’s ridiculous of course. However, I did just shell out a ton of cash on the new MacBook Pro with the M1 Max chip which is an insanely impressive system. The amount of performance you’re able to without ever heating up or sacrificing battery life is what sold me on it, especially since I’m someone who likes to jam out with lots of modular synths and effects that can be CPU intensive. There’s also some benefits to the Apple ecosystem, for example easily using your iPad as a second monitor and sending texts on your Mac, both of which will be extremely useful for me. Apple is also much better than Microsoft when it comes to user privacy. So yeah, you can make music with both and be perfectly fine, but there’s lots of reasons that I’m excited to get my first Mac laptop that isn’t from my company :) I’m planning to make this computer last 10 years at least.
@omega1231
@omega1231 2 года назад
There's nothing inherently wrong with the products, you won't get a bad laptop from Apple, but Apple as a company is absolutly trash, and it does show in their products aswell, as they are overpriced, even the newer models with the M1 chipset, like they're fine, but comparatively it's nothing amazing. The entire issue is marketing, Apple has from the start marketed their products as if the Ipod wasn't an mp3 player, their laptops weren't PC's, they were something special and exclusive, when in fact the Iphone f.ex. was and to a great degree still is 80% samsung components, likewise the macbook ran on Intel hardware for decades, like, the M1 chipset is their first proprietary chipset ever. Most of what Apple has ever said about their products has been manipulative marketing, other than that their laptops are not bad, still overpriced but certainly not bad, especially the M1 models, same can't be said about their phones or their "desktops" which are a whole other can of worms. If i ever were to get anything from Apple, it would be a macbook, it is if anything, their only worthwhile product. The biggest issue with the laptops, is that (like all of their products) they are designed in a way so you can't clean them properly, nor designed so you can open them really (which you have to if you want to keep a computer for 10 years, without running into major issues regarding heatsinks and airflow). It's part of their whole right to repair scheme, telling people that it's so special that only a specialist are allowed to open them, when in fact on the desktop f.ex. when you open it, there's a screen cord set in a way that if you don't know that it's there, you'll destroy the screen, and there's an exposed battery pack inside, which can kill you if you touch it - there's no reasons for any of this, besides deliberately designing it that way - any other desktop on the market has a sealed battery pack exactly because they are designed so laymen can just open it and clean it. And if you don't mind clicking accept when asked 17 times in a row whether or not you want to empty the trashbin, then MacOS is also very serviceable. Also arguable the only reason Apple has better user privacy is because most malicious software is designed for windows, as around 80% of computer users use windows, besides since near 90% of infections etc. happen through social engineering then it's kind of a moot point, since if you know how to not get malicious software on your computer then user privacy doesn't really matter too much, atleast on a personal use level, in terms of digital privacy it's more so social media platforms, digital banking etc. you want to pay attention too, not so much your personal system, since most likely, unless you got something to hide, then noone is going to target you directly - simply put, you're not important enough to have to care that much about user privacy, and in terms of data harvesting, that's nothing a little dash of VPN can't fix, and in that case there's isn't any difference between Mac and Windows.
@n8sdr473
@n8sdr473 2 года назад
LOL User Privacy- Who sold you that line of BS, oh the same person who sold you the MAc. utter Fucking BULLSHIT they Both sell you at and Frankly at the same fucking Pace.. !
@soundman1402
@soundman1402 2 года назад
"Apple is also much better than Microsoft when it comes to user privacy." I hear people say this, but I haven't heard anyone say why this is the case. Can you elaborate? Genuinely curious.
@ExpatZ266
@ExpatZ266 2 года назад
I am a senior IT guy with a ton of disciplines over the last 30 years including currently CTO, Mac is in no way inherently more secure. Period. Mac gets attacked less because historically the user base is much much smaller, near 4% for it's entire existence but if somone wants to own your Mac they can do so just as easilly as any other system. Apple has gotten marginally better about patching, the leading cause of losing your sh1t, but it is no where near responsive enough and still has vulnerabilities even today that were fixed 3 or more months ago in every other Unix like OS out there. Maybe more because of all the proprietary software all over it and controlling it. Macs are just as vulnerable as any other relatively unpatched system is. Memorise it. As for privacy, yeah. Right. All that data they get from your systems, not going to use it huh? Yeah, right. It is how these guys make money these days.
@EliasJackson
@EliasJackson 2 года назад
@@soundman1402 Due to their business model, Apple has a general policy of encrypting and randomizing user data unless there's a good reason not to: iMessage uses E2E encryption, Siri voice data isn't tied to or traced back to your identity, speech-to-text features are available on-device, and Safari has tracking protection on by default, much like Firefox and Brave, just to name a few examples. Unlike Microsoft and especially Google, which both make a lot of their revenue through ads, Apple isn't as concerned with user data because they instead make money by charging a premium for their hardware. This isn't to say Apple is perfect. Look up GNU's webpage titled "Apple's Operating Systems are Malware" (they have one for Microsoft as well). I personally would love it if I had all my favorite plugins available on Linux, but unfortunately that isn't the case.
@MoreMeRecording
@MoreMeRecording 2 года назад
I've not done AE "for a living" for several years so am now just (like your primary sub base) a home recordist and loving it. Re the firewire comment. Bang on! I have no reason to upgrade my FF400 at this point. My old rig had an integrated FW 400 port that was a VIA driver and apparently wasn't supposed to work but it did. I did have a SIIG pci-e card (with the crucial Ti chipset - My old MBook PRO uses the Ti chipset, credit to MAC) and added it to the new DAW I built last xmas and life is good.
@JimboDestroy
@JimboDestroy 2 года назад
I discovered your channel recently and I think that its amazing, thank u
@TheJenslenaerts
@TheJenslenaerts 2 года назад
You’ve got several points there, but I have Logic Pro X and i love working with it. I’ve recorded on PC too, mostly Reaper, and I wasn’t getting the same results, but thats mainly because all the great Logic plugins that are included (for only € 200 by the way).
@rollinas1
@rollinas1 2 года назад
Here's a shocking 3rd idea: build a PC and install Linux on it.
@therealikitclaw8124
@therealikitclaw8124 2 месяца назад
Build a PC and deconstruct it again because you forgot the processor. Couldn't be me of course
@simon-rjk8905
@simon-rjk8905 2 года назад
I love the blooper reels at the end. You are truly the Jackie Chan of audio tutorials.
@kharaway
@kharaway 2 года назад
Very cool! Love your content!
@Toxicity1987
@Toxicity1987 2 года назад
Reaper is now available for Linux. Try that. Its like Mac, just that its free and Open Source.
@rroades
@rroades 2 года назад
Available vs . . . performance and stability? I ask because Plex is available for Linux, but I quit trying to get it to work well. I'm now running it on an iMac. I have older Macs and windows I could convert to Linux in a heartbeat to test, but don't want to commit without some insight - back up and restore are tiresome ;-)
@motoki1
@motoki1 2 года назад
@@rroades I dropped Plex for Emby and it’s running much better.
@rroades
@rroades 2 года назад
@@motoki1 I may give that a try. Anyone try Reaper yet? I’m trying to avoid trying but not opposed completely
@grinder2401
@grinder2401 2 года назад
I would genuinely love to see a "Recording in Linux" episode. The software is there (eg Linux distros dedicated specifically for audio recording, DAWs like Ardour, Harrison Mixbus, Bitwig Studio, Reaper and others) as well as the hardware (plenty of modern Class Compliant USB audio interfaces which means you do not need to worry about drivers). What Linux probably still lacks today is the plethora of VST plugins that Mac and windows have (although there is a good variety of LV2 plugins that may do the job).
@AlexRamosDrTaz
@AlexRamosDrTaz 2 года назад
You beat me to it, sir. I totally agree with you. I run Kubuntu with all of the Ubuntu Studio apps installed. Great solution for folks like me, working on a tight budget. That said, still have to use a few select apps that run best natively in Windows. I'd try wine, but the latency issues going through that route are unacceptable for me.
@AndrossUT
@AndrossUT 2 года назад
LinVst works pretty well
@FrancoBugnano
@FrancoBugnano 2 года назад
Recording on modern (second half of 2021) Linux is really great. Sure, Linux doesn't have all the third party plugins, but guess what: with just Ardour, Calf and Guitarix you can have really great sounding recordings. And if you need some drum programming, the Drumgizmo+Muse combo works really well. You can have all this for the cost of absolutely zero, and they are all free (as in freedom) software.
@grinder2401
@grinder2401 2 года назад
@@AndrossUT Wasn't aware of LinVst to be honest. Thank you
@grinder2401
@grinder2401 2 года назад
@@FrancoBugnano That's what I am talking about :)
@nickx1754
@nickx1754 2 года назад
Excellent video, Glenn!
@grooveroid
@grooveroid 2 года назад
Watching this on my 11 year old MBP that I also record and mix all my projects on, but I do agree with a lot of the points in your video and the annoyances. It seems like the older Macs might actually be better built, and after an SSD upgrade this one is still damn fast but it admittedly lacks sufficient horsepower for anything other than home use. Also, I might be a bit stuffed when they withdraw Catalina support. I'll get a PC then if i can run Logic on it! ;)
@duncaninglis3806
@duncaninglis3806 2 года назад
Apple has been about lifestyle for decades, not just recently. Everything else you said is bang on correct. I've used both platforms, but PC is infinitely better, more flexible, and economically sound.
@uglyguyfe
@uglyguyfe 2 года назад
Apple is good no denying that. But I will never buy it again because of their corporate greed. Honestly if I could I'd stop using Microsoft products for same reason.
@covert0overt_810
@covert0overt_810 2 года назад
I dunno... i was around during power PC days... those machines were for artists... music was done on a mac pre-2005
@omarb2181
@omarb2181 2 года назад
Intel needs to step there shit up because apple just blew them out the water with the M1 chips
@GarooshnarJenkins
@GarooshnarJenkins 2 года назад
@@omarb2181 apple went arm instead of x86. Intel will never compete in that space. Arm is fantastic for specific use cases but lacks the "jack of all trades" qualities of x86 which is why M1 macs are fantastic at some things and God fucking awful at others things. Arm for desktop use is still very much a work in progress and will take a few generations until it can compete with x86 for general purpose
@BOBANDVEG
@BOBANDVEG 2 года назад
Apple, gibson, boats, pools. Theres always a problem, and that problem always cost at least $500
@NikosAchilleus
@NikosAchilleus 2 года назад
Well-recorded burps. The epitomy of a shoiny production. Thank you Glenn! I mean for the video.
@kenthompson8448
@kenthompson8448 2 года назад
Brilliantly put Glenn!
@sind255
@sind255 2 года назад
You're just awesome! Loved this!!
@jeremywarren7301
@jeremywarren7301 2 года назад
A lot of great points made here, although with a lot of bias lol! However, in the end, the best piece of advice that should be given to anyone is to simply use whatever system you are most comfortable using. Personally I do actually prefer to use a Mac, but not because I’m stuck up or anything. Its just because I’m more comfortable with the work flow of Mac OS over windows. Also after having used several different daws on the market, including being protools certified, I genuinely preferred the workflow of Logic over protools and many of the others. So yes while there are many advantages to having a pc system over a Mac system, in the end you should use what you are most comfortable with. Nothing more, nothing less. And regardless of what system you’re on, or what daw you’re using, I think we can all agree on this: let’s all make some kick ass music!
@hardwire666too
@hardwire666too 2 года назад
It really doesn't take much anymore considering a 6 core processor and 16GB of ram are pretty much the new base model for just about everything. You can get a lot done with that. Hell more than that is pretty much overkill for audio recording.
@ibtarnine
@ibtarnine 2 года назад
This. Computers are really, really fast these days, and even the lowest end builds are more than enough unless you're doing some serious encoding/rendering or working with very large files.
@niallcameron6433
@niallcameron6433 2 года назад
Nonsense. If you're a professional recording/mix engineer you can run into problems on a system like that easy. Try running a session with plugins from DMG or Acustica. Fuck, try running a few instances of Soothe 2 on that system and see what happens. There is never enough power I promise you.
@dighawaii1
@dighawaii1 2 года назад
I'm one of those "Cakewalk guys", having used it since the MIDI only, original version. It didn't take much to convince clients that they were in good hands, and I worked on many high end projects with it over the years. But convincing other productions that it would work was a different story. When OMF files came into the picture, I was finally able to say to industry peers, "send me the project and I'll send it back". I feel like that's the last hurdle with audio sequencing tech: interchangeable projects that also, somehow, contain the processing chain. As it stands, you'd all have to own and have the same VST's and DAWs. Anyway, what a wonderful time to be a musician with the patience to really learn audio mixing/engineering. What the future may hold is really mindboggling, I think.
@patrickarend8707
@patrickarend8707 2 года назад
Your video on this subject is absolute truth. I subbed.
@diegoxxxbc
@diegoxxxbc 2 года назад
I think the inevitable "11 Reasons why Recording on a MAC is better than PC" video is going to be a spicy one. As an almost perpetual PC user, I am on the verge of setting my Windows 10 PC on fire due to frustration. Its way more than bad drivers, bad energy settings, or not being able to have the fucking wifi on while tracking without drop outs, pops, clicks and the whole orchestra of glitches that Windows so generously provides. Yes, I have ASIO, yes I upgraded my interface, yes I've optimized the energy plan. I have reinstalled Windows at least a half a dozen times and nothing, no improvement, ndis.sys DPC routine still shits itself, I have more hours on latencymon than on Skyrim. I work in design and I'm used to multitasking between Photoshop, illustrator, and After Effects with ease on the company MAC and I occasionally steal a few hours here and there working on my music on it and its just such a breeze. I wouldn't even dream about trying to multitask in that way on my home PC. It is very true what Glenn says about MAC and the fact that it just works and that if you can't afford to fuck around and waste time troubleshooting every possible variable, MAC its the way to go.
@JoeBaermann
@JoeBaermann 2 года назад
That is also why Glenn says that you can buy a PC pre optimized for such tasks. Optimizing one yourself can be a long and tedious task if you aren't a PC geek or got a hard time searching for the right solutions. I got a newer MacBook Pro, but never used it for audio and video since it only gives me disadvantages compared to using my desktop PC.
@diegoxxxbc
@diegoxxxbc 2 года назад
@@JoeBaermann I consider myself a PC geek, at least for the software side of things, I've fucked around with the console and the registry with great success for other stuff related for example to hdmi video and audio, but getting audio to work in my DAWs in the way that is intended has been probably the most frustrating thing that I've encountered in windows. At the moment I can't afford one, but my next studio purchase will be a Mac mini.
@JoeBaermann
@JoeBaermann 2 года назад
​@@diegoxxxbc Those new Mac minis do look pretty promissing, besides that the price isn't to steep either. Should also be a lot easier to get started with as long as you don't have to get licenses for new software to replace Windows only software. Some Linux distros should also be pretty good out of the box for audio work, but might require one to use another DAW etc. As for DAW's on Windows and your experience, it depends a lot on all the components in your build. Some of the tweaks you can find on the net will even have the opposite effect dependent on Windows version and specific hardware. I mainly disable/remove everything I don't use and try a tweak at a time with every new build/component, it is a lot easier with Windows 10 and 11 than previous Windows versions though, my Windows tweak script collection today is pretty minimal today compared to a few years ago, most of them are just for personal preference. Back in the 90's we still used tape and DAT even before moving it onto a PC, tracking was horrible on a PC at that time, besides that there really wasn't anything like Pro Tools rack-units for PC back then.
@alexandersmith6797
@alexandersmith6797 2 года назад
Have you made sure that the audio device is not set to be taken exclusive control by programs? You will.find it in the audio device preferences>more options(or something)>advanced options. It's a check box in there. Sorry not at my computer or else.i would have exact directions
@ledoynier3694
@ledoynier3694 2 года назад
I also noticed that a lot of PC users that used to get cheapo computers and laptops, get pissed, break the bank for an expensive Mac often declare it superior :) beyond brands, you get what you pay for. Macs usually have decent specs (except on the GPU front), and good build quality. There are lots of PCs like that.. but there's an even greater amount of hardware that is built to barely power on at the store. I can't remember the last time i saw an error message on windows, let alone a BSOD, simply because i save to get good parts, and most importantly, i don't share the damn computer with anyone :p
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot 2 года назад
I have a friend who has a Mac... "It just works" was his mantra, as if PC's are likely to explode or leak oil. I have yet to experience a crash on my PC using Reaper, and that's with some exotic third party plugins.
@AtomMotherHeart
@AtomMotherHeart 2 года назад
Todd??? Is that you Todd???
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 2 года назад
It's about the OS, and that is that actual problem.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus 2 года назад
"It just works" usually means, I do a system update and nothing is broken. No individually finding and updating drivers, no "Windows Feature Updates" that moved/removed/changed a thing, no inexplicably reset preferences. The list goes on. I use a mac and a PC. PC hardware can be nice and relatively inexpensive but Windows is a dog's breakfast and things only appear to be getting worse with the new version.
@AtomMotherHeart
@AtomMotherHeart 2 года назад
@@rainbowkrampus Nah mate, "It just works" is a saying in Skyrim where Nords rules!
@BadMotivator66
@BadMotivator66 2 года назад
i have yet to get the audio latency sorted in windows! asio doesn't help. i plug into my macbook 2015 and off i go right away
@cryptout
@cryptout 2 года назад
Good points. I do think the mac mini is fairly priced and might be a good audio workstation. I’m currently using my home build pc though.
@mattdotson7328
@mattdotson7328 2 года назад
def my fave video you've ever made, cheers!
@EndlessMeece
@EndlessMeece 2 года назад
"Lifestyle brand" made me lolololol All the recording/production I've ever done has been on PC. Nothing against Macs, I just never had any problems with PC, have no reason to switch. Especially because I know how to use ASIO. I owe you a debt, Glenjamin.
@fredyklug3512
@fredyklug3512 2 года назад
thats basically why I use PCs, Ive never had problems and I know how ASIO works.
@battyfang4701
@battyfang4701 2 года назад
One doesn’t need a Mac to do music. With that said, I prefer the Mac environment. It isn’t perfect but I prefer it over the windows environment. Also, the arm processor are game changers.
@scottharris7222
@scottharris7222 2 года назад
Yes they are. I just built a Ryzen 5950x system for my studio and the m1 Pro benchmarks for the Macbook Pros can equal the single core performance and the multicore gets to about 75% of what my desktop will do. Impressive for a laptop! Add in in a GPU that kills for video work and do it on batteries? That is truly impressive. I'm not selling my Ryzen just yet but you'd have to be an idiot if you didn't realize SOC designs are the future.
@josearaujo8616
@josearaujo8616 2 года назад
@@scottharris7222 GPU that kills, playing which games? Arm processors have existed for ever, all phones are ARM. And good luck on 3d rendering on an M1...
@PearHellforge
@PearHellforge 2 года назад
u need mac
@Hue_Nery
@Hue_Nery 2 года назад
@@scottharris7222 Intel and AMD will be on that train soon. I believe Intel bought the factory that makes the M1 Chips
@cutearts6711
@cutearts6711 2 года назад
not for so long after new cpus got announced
@MrDingDong2
@MrDingDong2 2 года назад
Thanks Glen! This was a very useful video that potentially will save kids a lot of money! I was afraid you might jump on the mac train for good when you started the hackintoch project. Very relieved now👍
@reynaldocuevas6543
@reynaldocuevas6543 2 года назад
I got the M1 Mac Mini for about $1k with the 16GB of RAM and have been able to run Studio One, Logic, and DaVinci Resolve just fine. The plugins I have, have not been converted to run natively yet, but are working with Rosetta. I got a Mac just because I already had the rest of the ecosystem, but I wasn’t a huge macOS fan. To be honest, I agree with all the points here, with the caveat that you can score a decently priced Mac with the Mini. I had been thinking of building a PC o a Hackingtosh, but given the running totals for the equipment I had listed, I went with the mini and saved myself some time. I still used PCs for work, so you won’t find me at Starbucks. If you don’t know what to get, let your pocket decide, either way you should be good to go with either option. Great video Glen!
@SynthApprentice
@SynthApprentice 2 года назад
I'm seriously enjoying how much love for Linux is in the comments here. It's such a great system!
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 года назад
MX Linux baby... so great to use It brings me back that feeling of using Windows 7 or even Windows XP at times. It's just a system that doesn't get in your way
@CobraFat2000
@CobraFat2000 2 года назад
@@FeelingShred Yeah - a very pretty out of the box solution. One of the problems with the amount of distros - available is which one to choose. Usually I deviate between MX, Lubuntu and Mint.
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 года назад
@@CobraFat2000 Great selection there. Any of these 3 will offer the "windows 7 experience" for people looking for that. Simpler times. Back in control over your computer, feels so good.
@electriccatstudios9593
@electriccatstudios9593 2 года назад
I switched to Mac in 05 because there was no way to use multiple interfaces (before aggregate drivers) my older 2012 Mac pro 8 core 128 gb ram, 6 hdd like I have is a great machine and I've never had to do anything to it since I've had it except use it.. tire right about apple now, but the old ones are still pretty good
@OdinOfficialEmcee
@OdinOfficialEmcee 2 года назад
I agree that older apple products were better. I have and still use an I Pod classic that is 13/14 years old and it still works like a charm and it was built like a fucking tank. Dropped it more times than I can count and it has never done more than work perfectly and collect a few minor scratches after a decade of daily use
@RJMachinegun
@RJMachinegun 2 года назад
You convinced me! My next computer will definitely be a PC now! I’m still new to audio production so forgive me if this is a dumb question but my audio interfaces are registered with my mac, is it going to be difficult to change them to be registered with my PC?
@josephiladelphia8733
@josephiladelphia8733 Год назад
Bad idea
@youthmanrecords965
@youthmanrecords965 2 года назад
14:55 minutes in " If your computer can handle call of duty , it can handle a fukin amp sim" so funny glenn! best line in the whole video . I love your content man . long time listener , first time caller
@Redhotlugnut
@Redhotlugnut 2 года назад
As a guy that had built and sold computers for many years I can say that overall PC is superior when you count the price:performance ratio. For the money PC has always been better value, but prior to the windows 10 release using a PC for music was hit and miss. For me and my i7 rig I built in 2012 using Studio One with my windows rig sucked. That said, I am getting myself a new Mac Mini with the M1 chip (for photo, music and videos). For the price this new M1 processor is killing it. Hopefully it will be all it's cracked up to be and most companies will have their software programmed for it rather than running through the windows translator thingy. If you're on the fence I'd say get a PC, it's way less of an investment for the performance.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@Redhotlugnut
@Redhotlugnut 2 года назад
@@Emcfree2084 This is actually a great point!
@FeelingShred
@FeelingShred 2 года назад
@@Redhotlugnut I would argue that the only bad thing about PC's in general, and about the origins of it, is how it all started out possible due to Bill Gates' father money in banking and politics ties like UN and other deep rabbit holes, his mother was also on these political ties. Bloody money. But it's undeniable how much freedom PC's bought into the market. Amiga's and Commodore's were great too, but they always had limitations that kept their users with their hands tied on what they could achieve. PC was the real first platform that gave users COMPLETE FREEDOM not only in terms of software but specially in terms of hardware too. But then someone else could go even further and argue that the real technological innovation came decades earlier with the likes of Wozniak (Apple) basically inventing a portable computer (Personal Computer) and that was the real "guy on his garage" from rags to riches story
@Redhotlugnut
@Redhotlugnut 2 года назад
@@FeelingShred yeah dude, I bought a Playstation instead of Xbox as Gates and his father (who started planned parenthood and is a well known eugenics guy) Gates and his bogus foundation being touted as doing all this great work when instead they just buy stuff from their friends with the donation money. Is a giant scam. I live in Uganda and they come with all their vaccines and crap when they could come and setup villages with better sanitation and easier access to clean water, this would eradicate many diseases. Instead it's all vaccine based because that's where the biggest profits are! Lol, I didn't want to get political but here we are lol. All those guys at the start with any sort of skills did well unless they were idiots. So many opportunities for developing platforms etc. I saw that Jobs and Gates worked at Atari! Haha. Anyway, Gates is total scum in my eyes but, if I had to build a gaming pc anytime soon, it would obviously be a PC.
@ChopTheViking
@ChopTheViking 2 года назад
Sadly, a lot of the issues with Apple are becoming issues with PCs too. Except it tends to be more poorly implemented. Dell and HP and Lenovo are soldering more and more hardware to the boards. Brands like Acer, Alienware, Origin, Razer, etc are trying to become lifestyle brands too. And as you've said before: if you don't want to have driver issues and just have your audio gear work, use a Mac.
@voripeter
@voripeter 2 года назад
Can't wait to hear this weeks VC. Gotta buy some popcorn for that. It might even be a full "butthurt of the week" special episode.
@lukaszzz365
@lukaszzz365 Год назад
The only thing I can notice is a shift in pick attack. Some pickups seem ''faster'' than the others. Thank you for this comparison! :)
@sgeggbub1008
@sgeggbub1008 2 года назад
Next video: “11 reasons why recording on Linux is better than windows”
@SynthApprentice
@SynthApprentice 2 года назад
Yes, please!
@5urg3x
@5urg3x 2 года назад
Linux would be great if more folks supported JACK
@321mzzz123
@321mzzz123 2 года назад
I've been using Windows my entire life. A couple months back I switched from my super old shitty PC to M1 Mac mini, it works great and does everything I need it to do. I don't hate neither PC or Mac, I just enjoy having a good fast computer.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
It’s hilarious he is decades out of date but is making fun of others for being out of date
@fleshtonegolem
@fleshtonegolem 2 года назад
I hope you are making good ad revenue Glen. I had 4 ad breaks in this video!
@willprince643
@willprince643 2 года назад
Great video as usual Glenn! Would you like to take a look at Linux and recording on Linux? I know you once said there's no reason to use Linux instead of Windows for music production, but it's still worth trying, there's a great channel about audio production on Linux called Unfa, this guy is mainly electronic music producer, despite being clearly a metalhead, but he records live instruments and voice as well. Most of Windows advantages over Mac mentioned in this video will also apply to Linux, especially free plugins (technically this video is not only about Windows, but I guess it was mostly about it, except for the Hackintosh of course). Also, if I understand correctly, on Linux you can use multiple inferfaces at the same time, which is possible on Mac but not on Windows, at least using JACK Audio Connection Kit.
@SynthApprentice
@SynthApprentice 2 года назад
Unfa is awesome. Probably the best channel when it comes to Linux audio. Personally, I use Ubuntu Studio, and it's just great for pretty much anything you throw at it. The main drawback with Linux is that you're limited with using VSTs, but LADSPA and lv2 plugins can do a lot of the same things.
@SynthApprentice
@SynthApprentice 2 года назад
And yes, JACK does allow multiple interfaces!
@leepshin
@leepshin 2 года назад
This video made me feel so utterly satisfied and content Glen. I agree 100% with every point you make. I can't stand Apple's sleazy and dictatorial business model with their planned obsolescence totally responsible for stuff going to landfill.
@k53847
@k53847 2 года назад
So you've not tried the windows 11 compatibility checker?
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe 11 месяцев назад
@@k53847 That thing is there to prevent PC vendors from cheaping out when speccing new machines, but you can easily install Windows 11 on super old hardware. Yeah, it might discourage some people, but then again it's only those that maybe shouldn't do any computer stuff without help from others or at least googling it first. If Apple only put some warnings on old stuff, that'd be fine.
@sarty23
@sarty23 2 года назад
You dont have to pay double price when you record on a pc. Better specs. Lower price. Works fine . Apples prices are absolutely ridiculous!
@reptilianaliengamedev3612
@reptilianaliengamedev3612 2 года назад
Yes but you can get older macs for a couple hundred dollars that work great if you replace hard drive with ssd and make sure it's compatible with catalina. I paid 360 for a mac with a cracked screen on ebay I use. I love pc for gaming, but mac for me has increase my audio game 10 fold from going to audacity to garageband is a huge jump. Either way though as long as you are happy and it works for you that is great. I just want everybody to know both are affordable with the right research
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
Upfront cost vs total cost of ownership. Macs are cheaper overall but more when you buy generally.
@RJMacready509
@RJMacready509 Год назад
Thank you Glen for being awesome.
@jeffyoung8726
@jeffyoung8726 2 года назад
Ya know Glenn, I might not agree with some of the things you put into your videos! But you DO give A LOT of insight & advice to all of us that IS very helpful. And THAT I thank you for & appreciate every-single one of your videos... Please keep up this great work, and rock on!
@nikitadobrov
@nikitadobrov 2 года назад
Coffee shop hipsters can do it because they have a MacBook battery can last for hours and hours :). I still have nightmares about my Dell and HP laptops which would last maximum for two hours and sometimes shutdown unexpectedly. And that is without any significant load. I bought my first MacBook Pro in 2010 the same year I bought my HP laptop. My 2010 MacBook Pro is still working(only replaced the battery four years ago), my HP laptop lasted for two years before battery died, and display started to show artifacts. I have never had any other laptops other than Apple since then.
@von_freiesleben64
@von_freiesleben64 2 года назад
true that, I'm still working on a MacBook pro from 2012. still works like a charm. i doubt the same would apply for windows. still use a windows pc for my real job
@zacharywhite5466
@zacharywhite5466 2 года назад
I've been using Mac since I got a Mac book for my high school graduation back in 2011. I really like the workflow with OSX. If I prefer PC, I would still be using that. My composition professor in college always said "It doesn't matter what you use, as long as you can provide results." So I use what I like and that can get me the results I need. It also helps getting discounts on Apple products, too.
@dighawaii1
@dighawaii1 2 года назад
It's been this way for 16 years. This is a great video. Lotta laughs along the way :)
@ericpeterson2960
@ericpeterson2960 2 года назад
This dude knows what he talking about. Really refreshing seeing another music nerd also being a tech nerd. In many ways it comes hand in hand, especially in music production.
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
He doesn’t. He was wrong and well out of date on each point.
@hotrodjones74
@hotrodjones74 2 года назад
Recording on Linux is God-level... Everything is free with the penguin buds!
@alexeypolevoybass
@alexeypolevoybass 2 года назад
What god level? It's the same, you only have slightly different tools available (most of plugins you use will be not the same as on Windows or Mac), and get a grasp of how to manage software on your Linux machine, that's the hardest part. Everything else is a breeze.
@stefan_hauk
@stefan_hauk 2 года назад
The base model M1 Mac Mini is pretty impressive for the cost though.
@SergioBianchini11
@SergioBianchini11 2 года назад
The main problem of the M1 processors is that some DAWs and lots of plugins don't work (or don't work natively). Like Ableton and JST plugins, which I always use in my Win10 pc, they don't work or need to be run through Rosetta. It's getting better for sure, but once Apple won't make any other Intel-based PC I'd like to see if the princing of the M1s will still be the same
@stefan_hauk
@stefan_hauk 2 года назад
@@SergioBianchini11 that's only a short term issue though. Since Apple have the lion's share of the market, once the Apple Silicon transition is complete, software developers will have no choice but to make their software ARM compatible.
@studio_person
@studio_person 2 года назад
@@stefan_hauk can i use only UAD plugins or they also depend on processor?
@hanktteotd
@hanktteotd 2 года назад
Hey Glenn. Love your show! I bought an old Lenovo Thinkpad after watching Adam Steele do a video on running Reaper on a $150 laptop a couple years back. I threw a 1tb SSD in it and it works great. It has 12gb RAM, which is more than I’ll ever need. The only thing that’s hurting my workflow is the CPU, which maxes at maybe 2.7 ghz. I can do smaller projects fine if I render or freeze tracks and max the buffer rate. All the tricks to max your cpu I’ve researched and applied to my workflow. As I move onto larger projects I feel like I might need something more powerful. I’ve been thinking of upgrading to a PC Desktop, or maybe a Sweetwater Creation Station that fits right into my rack or something. Do you think that’s worth it, or maybe just try upgrading the CPU in what I already have?
@wesleybrehm9386
@wesleybrehm9386 2 года назад
As a PC builder who also plays bass and has a budding interest in recording (thanks for all the useful tips and tricks Glenn), I'd like to chime in. If you don't absolutely NEED a new PC right now, put it off for a year or more. Due to many factors, new PCs are often as much as a Mac these days. I had to refund all my customer's custom PC builds in mid 2020 because getting parts at anything close to MSRP is next to impossible still, and likely will be until 2024 at the earliest. You could probably go to one of the larger system integrators (Microcenter is amazing if you have one near you) and get a system that would work for you without selling a kidney. But you could also get a Mac for the same price, and dollar for dollar the Mac would be a better choice for most people right now (I say that as someone who HATES Macs; it hurts genuinely recommending a Mac).
@JeremyRaden
@JeremyRaden 2 года назад
@@wesleybrehm9386 since you seem to have a lot of knowledge on the topic, I definitely need to upgrade my current laptop (crappy HP I3 core processor😭). I’m using reaper and pro tools atm, looking to switch to Logic, FL studio or Ableton. What laptop besides the new Mac M1 would be able to handle these programs, preferably around $1,000?
@Mikesosa75
@Mikesosa75 2 года назад
Good video glen
@rullopat
@rullopat 2 года назад
Now with Apple Silicon, I would say that laptops are even cheaper than PC, if you compare similar configurations of course. We will see what they will drop on desktop workstation stuff.
@PATRICKJLM
@PATRICKJLM 2 года назад
Can you give one example of what you are saying? If you compre a PC and a Mac with the same price, the PC always wins on the specs.
@rullopat
@rullopat 2 года назад
@@PATRICKJLM look at the new MacBook Air that for 999 dollars has no competition on that price range both in power (the CPU is a monster) and power consumption (the battery lasts even more than 20 hours).
@foxmulder5379
@foxmulder5379 2 года назад
@@rullopat the CPUs in the MacBooks are nowhere close to "monsters" and they don't have enough ram at base configuration. 20 hour battery life is a marketing lie, and don't even get me started on how much they charge for hdd space.
@rullopat
@rullopat 2 года назад
@@foxmulder5379 the one that lie about 10h don't have it neither :D And yes, check the benchmarks because the M1 CPU has the same performance of the older MacBook 16 and literally destroys a Lenovo Yoga with i9.
@foxmulder5379
@foxmulder5379 2 года назад
Benchmarks are synthetic, they don't really mean much when it comes to real workloads. The m1 chip is a quick quad core with 4 extra "efficiency cores" meaning that it cannot multitask nearly as fast as a true 6 or 8 core CPU. When running plugins and daws, you feel that performance drop pretty quick.
@scottharris7222
@scottharris7222 2 года назад
I sense a corresponding "11 Reasons Why Recording on a Mac is better than a PC" video coming shortly. Regardless, you really need to update your performance generalities given the new M1max chip. Your price points complaints are still relevant. I am a PC guy but I am not religious about this stuff.
@trevfisher
@trevfisher 2 года назад
Glad to see someone not joining in with the Mac bashing, I too remain agnostic about both, I have switched to an M1 Mac mini because you you simply can't come close to this performance for music for $699 so even the price thing isn't a big deal any more. (My laptop for other work and general use is still a PC, not paying the Mac prices for a laptop, that's not going to happen).
@joshshultz1250
@joshshultz1250 2 года назад
@@trevfisher yeah you can
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@Falasi4
@Falasi4 2 года назад
Absolutely Epic! Final comment about getting good with what you have is key! Just my .02 for those thinking that building a pc is too much for them: I've built PC's since the early 90's and then you had to do a lot of things to get them to work right including setting dip switches, matching voltages, and setting up sectors/formatting hard drives manually from a floppy disc. None of that applies anymore. Building a PC now is so easy that it has lost that sense of accomplishment to get one working properly. That isn't bragging - you will unlikely find any parts that can be plugged in wrong. With a tiny bit of help picking components from somewhere like microcenter you can build (plug stuff together) a great machine for a lot less than you may have imagined.
@profanddevplaygames
@profanddevplaygames 2 года назад
Great video and thoughts! I use both Mac and PC for audio production; both work for me. All points are totally true! What doesn't work for me is the spinning frames in this video! I felt like the drunk, out-of-time bassist you mentioned! Amazing content and video production otherwise!
@IntiMaldonado
@IntiMaldonado 2 года назад
Hey man how about doing music production on a Linux Ubuntu system? The main advantage is that the operating system is open source, free and run in any hardware. It would be amazing to see you put that to the test and get your opinion!
@HammyHavoc
@HammyHavoc 2 года назад
Not all Linux distros are free. Not all Linux distros will run on all hardware. Reaper isn't open source, nor is it free.
@AllenPendleton
@AllenPendleton 2 года назад
I run reaper on Linux.
@tiadiad
@tiadiad 2 года назад
I have to say. I've been custom building my PC towers through HP, and they're pretty bad ass. Their latest Omens are very very nice. You can outfit them with flagship chips from AMD or Intel, great motherboards, excellent memory and storage, and a sturdy, slick design. For the same specks over at Apple you'd pay twice as much. Although the Apple OS is a lot more user friendly than Windows imo. But once you're in your DAW it really stops to matter. Windows does take a bit more to tune up and keep up, but it really doesn't matter once you get everything going. And don't buy into the lie that apples can't be hacked. I once fried my MacBook's hard drive with some virus. Made it unusable.
@cary3428
@cary3428 2 года назад
💯
@Zolbat
@Zolbat 2 года назад
Having both, I always wonder what is so much "more user friendly" about macs? I find some of it absolutely unusable. The first 6 months of using a mac, I had to Google how to do things every day, because it was so unintuitive.
@tiadiad
@tiadiad 2 года назад
@@Zolbat I'm definitely not defending Apple, or Windows for that matter. I work in tech, and truth be told, most human technology is hacky, and full of holes. You make the best of it as long as it lasts, and then inevitably require an update, a patch, a revision, etc. I still have yet to come across the "good stuff", the good tech that just works... So whatever does the trick, but don't hope for much more. It's the world we live in. Unfortunately, most people don't fully know what they are doing.
@Zolbat
@Zolbat 2 года назад
@@tiadiad true, I work in tech myself (I'm a dev), and working with macs and iOS is always a "they can't be f_ing serious" experience
@RETCHED-METAL
@RETCHED-METAL 2 года назад
Awesome stuff Glen!! You're right about this Cheers mate!!!
@sergiovegaz
@sergiovegaz 2 года назад
Excellent video GLEEEEEEENNN! Now, it would be great to have your objectivity and perspective focused on some experienced comments on LINUX for audio (and anything else if You want) to keep on the track of opening eyes, beating expenses and achieving great results as the ultimate goal. Time is the most expensive resource... then may be money itself. Too many people are afraid of Linux OSs without even trying some distributions before expressing their opinions. Thanks and keep it going!!! Saludos desde México!
@stevewhite8178
@stevewhite8178 2 года назад
I don’t know. I’ve had a Mac for about 5 years now with zero issues or problems. It just does what I want without getting in my way.
@djazz0
@djazz0 2 года назад
Me watching this on a PC running Linux: Interesting :D
@PearHellforge
@PearHellforge 2 года назад
no, u need mac
@gushhnet
@gushhnet 2 года назад
How is Linux with ASIO these days?
@ashcan6
@ashcan6 2 года назад
Hey, man. I’m one of your o.g. followers; I love this f’in channel!🤘🤘Anyway, I am 42, started my first band in 1994, started messing with recording in moms basement soon after. R.I.P Radio Shack(Shak? Dunno)….you young guys are never going to have the mid practice run to RadioShack to buy a bunch of audio and headphone adapters and splitters. We even had a tiny mixer (three channel!) from the ‘shack that we used fir the drums. Mic in the ait, one in the snare, one on the ground….balance them, stuff the outputs into a rack compressor, then stuff THAT into a Sony 4track channel. 4track simul recording!!!😙. In analog. 😕 …cassette. 💀🏴‍☠️ Anyway, I was a PC guy because I was a DOS game whore, mom was Apple all day, because she was an artist and art teacher. I got used to her iMac in college when I would leave my compaq presario pentium 2 tower on campus during breaks. This was right when the iPod appeared. When I realized how cool iTunes was(in its infancy remember), I decided to buy a PowerBook from Amazon. I had fallen in love with how well mom’s little iMac ran; it didn’t crash and it was super easy to use. So I switched to the dark side; 17 inch titanium PowerBook factory loaded / optimized for music. When I hit the damn thing, I had no idea that garage band pro was already on there….I didn’t need pro tools or logic. I found a great little free drum machine/sampler called doggiebox, bought a MIDI Yamaha keyboard and a sampler called “audio hijacker” that let you record any audio that was coming through your speakers in real time. That was super useful for sampling the creepy medicine man guy in predator 2 for an evil voodoo reggae instrumental called “dread, mon” that I made. I know, I know, stol hitting me me, ow ! I’m sorry geez, I was just a child! A 24 year old one, the worst kind! I put all my records on itunes and put TYAT on my new green screen iPod….then, I sold them all to the exchange 😩😫😤😖😣😩. That was when the ac adapter on the PowerBook decided it wouldn’t give enough juice ti the transistor to start the machine if it shut off, and sometimes woukd even allow enough through to power the battery or even just direct power to the motherboard to keep us afloat. I had to god dam dip the ac connector in saltwater, stuff alum foil around it, then jam the bastard into the plug at the precise second I pushed the power button. That would cause a power surge large enough to jump the transistor, kick start the fan, and boom! There you go. I DO NOT RECOMMEND YOU TRY HOTWIRING YOUR OWN MACHINE, no matter how old you are. It was extremely dangerous not just for the state of my hard drive but it could probably have f&$@ing killed me as well. One day (you know we’re this is going), it would no longer jumpstart, Hotwire start, start at all. At the exact same time, the good old greenie screenie iPod died as well, of a broken heart. So I lost all of my albums, all 3,100 that I had collected since 89, except for the two dozen or so physical copies and 12 inchers I had kept. The Mac “geniuses”🙄were no f$&@ing help. They didn’t understand my Hotwire technique. They refused to tell me how to open an iPod to replace the f’in battery. They wanted to sell me a much smaller and shittier black plastic 12 inch laptop for 2 grand-they couldn’t or wouldn’t fix my PowerBook or iPod. So , what happened you ask? I paid 600 bucks to have the contents of my PowerBook and iPod floated up to the spirit in the sky, the Mac cloud of legend. The logic was ilthere it would wait fir me, like your dead dogs in heaven, wait for when I bought that new Mac and then I could- Yeah, I guess that shit is still up there. My music collection, two of my own novel manuscripts, hundreds of photos and video projects, at least two hundred recording studio projects. I never could afford a new apple device; that crap hit the cloud in like 2009. I’m not as dumb as people think, so 💀☠️⚰️⚱️🪦, RIP Pete’s entire MAC Creative portfolio. Maybe when I die, I’ll see my pack of beloved deceased dogs waiting on the rsinbiw bridge, and Anastasia, the coyote dog that was my soulmate and best life friend, will have my PowerBook tied to her like a side. 🍎🍏💻Fail Different☠️💀⚰️
@jeffarburola
@jeffarburola 2 года назад
GLEEEEEEN! Interesting video, but now I need to ask: I recently upgraded my laptop to 32 gigs of RAM, and Reaper is not utilizing them accordingly. Adobe Audition (which I hate) takes about 3 min to render a 25 track podcast, while Reaper is taking over 10 min! I noticed Reaper is only using less than 2 gigs of RAM while rendering, while Audition is using waaaaaaay more. How do you handle rendering times on your rig? Cheers!
@tjhope6653
@tjhope6653 2 года назад
Did you check your bios and make sure your ram is actually running at its full potential? This can also simply be the encoding of the program itself, and your hardware. I run reaper and it tends to run slower than some things, but this type of issue is mostly focused on your Cpu performance, not your ram. If you're running a ryzen 5800 and 8 gigs of ram on ddr 4 at 3200hz, it will school an intel 4690k with 32 gigs of ram on ddr3 at 2133hz.
@TheOligoclonalBand
@TheOligoclonalBand 2 года назад
I work with Macs at my job.I recently got one of the new M1 MacBooks and am impressed. The laptops before always had the fan running when I had to push them a bit. The new one does not. I didn't hear the fan at all and I honestly am not sure if it has one. The battery lasts for ages. I didn't push the laptop, but I had an eight hour day and I got all my work done including video calls etc. Audio is an afterthought for this one, but I am impressed with the M1 and am thinking about getting a Mac Mini for home. Just for my hobby recordings and non-job related stuff. Yeah, I know it's expensive, but I get one package that performs well, I know the OS (better than Windows anyway) and it will work with my iPhone. These are good enough reasons for me to consider a purchase.
@josearaujo8616
@josearaujo8616 2 года назад
Chromebooks don't use fans and they are a lot cheaper....All computers nowadays are exceptional, except for 3D.. M1 can't help you with that.
@Maedara
@Maedara 2 года назад
this guy just doesn't miss huh glad to see i'm not the only one advocating for recording on pc hahah
@Morgwll
@Morgwll 2 года назад
Hey Glenn, glad to hear I'm not the only one who says "For the love of Crom!"
@VGVindaloo
@VGVindaloo 2 года назад
Fully agree with all points, even though I'm still using my old Mac (Mac Pro 2009 - when a Mac only cost around 1.5 times as much as a comparable PC and was user serviceable), but Apples software support for that machine is slowly dwindling and I'm now considering switching for all the reasons you mentioned. So, have you considered doing a video of what to look out for, when building a recording PC? My old gaming PC sure would be powerful enough, but that won't run Windows 11 and I don't want to be in the same situation with no OS updates in a few years, so I'm thinking of building a new dedicated audio PC.
@taylorbroad8941
@taylorbroad8941 2 года назад
I have tried Logic Pro and its alternatives, along with Final Cut Pro and its alternatives. For me, I’m at the point where I’m locked into those pro apps. I’m super excited to get the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16”. Historically, Apple has had the lowest latency of an audio chain thanks to how the OS handles the audio. That was actually a key decision back in 2013 for me.
@joshshultz1250
@joshshultz1250 2 года назад
and the amount of latency that is actually noticeable by either environment is zero so... cool
@cutearts6711
@cutearts6711 2 года назад
2013 mac was full of latency my i5 samsung killed the top mac using a focusrite, just learn how to config ASIO and you're done.
@bemep0k
@bemep0k 2 года назад
Tbh, ASIO seems to have even less latency thatn coreaudio on macs and I'm not sure if you can use anything else other than coreaudio on macs...
@cutearts6711
@cutearts6711 2 года назад
@@bemep0k no idea, i just used the default focusrite asio driver + ableton and the mac was using the one that cames by default with it + ableton.
@xnetpc
@xnetpc 2 года назад
As a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, my loyalty to Windows and PCs is pretty strong. I thought I'd start with that because I don't want to be accused of being a Mac devotee. I was pretty disappointed with this video because almost every complaint came down to cost. How much someone pays for their equipment does not necessarily affect their recording experience. If an engineer were to enter a studio with a top of the line Mac next to a top of the line PC and cost was not an issue, would one system provide a better experience than the other? Even if the improvement were small, and the cost is ridiculously higher, someone out there is willing to pay the extra money for that little bit of an edge. I'd like to know what that edge is, or there is an edge going with PC versus Mac.
@crustiepunk77
@crustiepunk77 2 года назад
Time to update your certs homie, the MCSE isn't a thing anymore... :P
@xnetpc
@xnetpc 2 года назад
@@crustiepunk77 I’m in a position where I don’t have to worry about renewing my certifications any longer, but I didn’t know they retired the MCSE as a title. I just thought there wasn’t going to be course toward becoming an MCSE moving forward.
@braunhausmedia
@braunhausmedia 2 года назад
I have been a longtime user of both systems, and am no Mac zealot. But I will say that my Macs have always lasted a lot longer than my PCs before biting the dust. So, in the end, the cost pretty much evens out. Yes, you pay more for a Mac, but in my experience it lasts three times longer.
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 2 года назад
@@braunhausmedia my experience as well. i still have 15 years old mbp which works
@Emcfree2084
@Emcfree2084 2 года назад
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here: 1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac. 2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means 3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases. 4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC. 6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones? 7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too. 8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac. 9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument. 10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection? 11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@pepepitt
@pepepitt 2 года назад
Brilliant video.
@thebreathalyzer
@thebreathalyzer 2 года назад
Love you man, this was beautiful.
@mikeandersonwa
@mikeandersonwa 2 года назад
I've tried using Windows for my home studio and it drove me absolutely insane, nothing worked, I had to re-install everything like 5 times just to get it to work, and then finally got something recorded, the next morning nothing worked once again, so I had to go back to re-installing and honestly after a week of spending 90% of my time troubleshooting I switched back to MacOS. Yes, in the past MacOS was far more expensive, but it's rock solid. Also, now I do all of my production on a $1,200 MacBook Air with M1 and it runs like an absolute dream, the performance is insane, the battery lasts forever, and I've never had any issues with it at all.
@nordicomsystems8841
@nordicomsystems8841 2 года назад
I built and repaired PCs for decades and always had a high-end laptop or desktop (usually both). But at some point I got sick of constant updates, driver issues, incompatibility issues, and invasive Windows bullshit. Now that I'm old and lame I just want something that works, period. I turn on my MacBook Pro and it's ready to go, and there's no driver conflicts and I don't feel like I always have to tune it up to keep it running at it's best. Another thing I love about my MacBook is the build quality. It's amazing. If you want that type of construction with a PC you'll have to get a Razer Blade or something along those lines and at that point you're shelling out big money anyway. Hipsters suck, I can't stand the whole "lifestyle" aspect of Apple and I avoid that nonsense. My laptop is a tool not a status symbol. And to be honest, it's easier to sail the seas on a Mac if you know what I mean. Download a .dmg and boom. Don't have to set up dozens of rules in your firewall to block outgoing connections, don't have to mount an ISO image in another program, etc. Finally, I love Logic Pro. Simple as that. There's nothing wrong at all with PC, I was a rabid IBM fanboy most of my life. Building them is a blast and the power-to-price ratio compared to Apple is significant. It's all about personal choice, just use what you enjoy and to hell with all the hype and nonsense.
@LarryHovis
@LarryHovis 2 года назад
That was informative and hilarious. Definitely not sixteen minutes that I can't have back. :-)
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty 2 года назад
I am a PC user myself (Win10+10700k), but I have learned by experience with recent M1 chips, that you cant compare Apple and PC on specs anymore.
@johto
@johto 2 года назад
Indeed M1 ARM chip on Mac's has changed the game.
@hijacrecords8636
@hijacrecords8636 2 года назад
first hahaha (yes this is the least insightful comment imaginable but yes, pc is better bang for your buck and much more open-source stuff on windows and Linux)
@rumar4u
@rumar4u 2 года назад
I believe Glenn’s info is outdated. Neil De’Grasse Tyson stated perfectly… *The problem of most people is they think they know enough about a subject, but not knowing enough to know when they’re wrong…* Right now with the new Pro line, a simple $2k Laptop is faster than any manufactured PC but also with a built in Graphics that lets Video producers encode faster than anything available, comparable to a dedicated GPU. If it is for Audio Recording, Macs can handle more tracks and more plugins thanks to their SSD integration which uses it as additional RAM without hurting performance.
@LucaPasini
@LucaPasini 2 года назад
I've recorded a lot of music and edited the sound of many short films with my humble Huawei laptop with 8 GB of RAM, which cost something like 600€. I'm talking about full mixes with plugins, amp-sims and VST instruments, or with 30 or more tracks. It never crashed or show any latency issue, both with a dedicated interface and with ASIO4ALL drivers. The thing is you don't really need a huge amount of calculating power to do audio production. Working with 4K video is a totally different story, my laptop surely isn't powerful enough, but what's the point of paying more than 3 times the money for features you don't really need? Oh, and I have proper USB and HDMI ports
@rumar4u
@rumar4u 2 года назад
@@LucaPasini That depends on your workflow… If you record audio, there’s no need for much RAM. But mine is a different story… To score a 2-3 minute ad, I use some good quality VST Instruments that have 2-4 GB per Instrument, so my session requires 32GB for 16-20 Tracks plus the reverbs, delays, EQ’s and the Video… Then, to bounce, it requires a heavy CPU amount.
@scottharris7222
@scottharris7222 2 года назад
@@rumar4u I'm finding that the vocal processing plugins and higher end tools like Soothe and Gullfoss are where I eat most of my CPU. My mixes are getting deeper and more layered now. The extra power gives some options before you have to bounce.
@angryvaginasfromspace7718
@angryvaginasfromspace7718 2 года назад
"Right now with the new Pro line, a simple $2k Laptop is faster than any manufactured PC..." aaand yeah, imma call BULLSHIT that early. Its just simply not true. It MIGHT be true if u take the "manufactured PC" part too seriously, as in - prebuilt. Even then im pretty sure that statement is false, but i dont really know that for sure, cause who the hell cares about prebuilt PCs. About SSD integration - im not sure, even m2 ones cant really handle speeds of modern RAM. That said, u can built your PC to have 32 GB RAM, and it would still be cheaper than a mac. Hell, go for 64 GB, but i honestly struggle to see real cases where u would need that much, as of now. And if u do need it - i would sugest cleaning up that project of yours a tad bit.
@scottharris7222
@scottharris7222 2 года назад
@@angryvaginasfromspace7718 - this is simply not true. Do you understand benchmarks? The M1 Pro Max chip is impressive but a $2000 mac laptop cannot beat any PC manufactured. That is bananas. If you intended to write faster than all PC laptops manufactured you'd be more correct but still wrong. You are jumping the gun. They are impressive but they aren't doing what you are claiming . Look it up. Cinebench r23 and Geekbench scores. You'll see some very impressive results from the new Macbook Pros, better than most people would have thought possible 2 years ago, but you've greatly exaggerated your claims here.
@alexanderfischer1293
@alexanderfischer1293 2 года назад
100% agree with you, Glen. Living in a 50mac/50pc household with my wife being a digital designer, it is hard ... but she is on the way to acknowledge the Macs are a pain in the butt when it comes to stability and productivity.
@stanleyalbuquerque444
@stanleyalbuquerque444 2 года назад
I'm a software engineer, I worked with Linux, Mac and Windows. Windows 7 crashed a lot, then I started using macs in 2013 to 2017, macs crashe too but it was less often and I need more GPU performance, then I decided to build my own PC, it's a machine that a MacBook pro will never beat, of curse you need to update the hardware, like faster memory, CPU, etc.
@nachtjager109e
@nachtjager109e 2 года назад
Holy shit Glenn, thank you so much for making this. It's really refreshing to hear the myths and sacred lore of the MacOS being called out as the overpriced hipster nonsense that it actually is. Customization + standardization > fruity brand name.
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 2 года назад
well, it's a bs. you can buy a used mac for a normal price, and ejoy the benefits of osx. windows can not compete witg osx. i actually think that apple is an asshole company, but computers, and osx are good
@nachtjager109e
@nachtjager109e 2 года назад
@@VanjaSpirin "windows can not compete witg osx" Citation fucking needed. It's not better just because you claim it is. Prove it. I have yet to find anything I would need to do on a Mac that I can't do just as well with my PC.
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 2 года назад
@@nachtjager109e well, you are right, you can do everything on windows. i actually do that every day when i use my pc. also, i use my mac, and this is smoother and more comfortable experience. this is why i think that mac osx is better. no irritating mandatory updates, and no problems with malware. also mac osx system have great daw, logic. is it enough?
@TehWhitt
@TehWhitt 2 года назад
I'm kind of confused ... out of all 11 items only 1 of them is directly related to the act of recording (Yes, there are way more plugins on PC because it has a much larger user base). The rest of the items are just kind of, eh, whatever? Having recorded on both, just use whatever you want, they both get the job done. Also .. what does Mac being featured in Starbucks have to do with its ability to record songs? Hipsters are allowed to listen to their shitty music too, Glen.
@Ricardo_Rosa
@Ricardo_Rosa 2 года назад
I´ve been a Mac user for sound prod for 15+ years and man, this video touches all the delicate spots! I´m 100% sure I´ll go for Windows the next time I need to upgrade my machine.
@gatecreeper7930
@gatecreeper7930 Год назад
Great video and point about voiding the warranty. Many people don’t really know what they’re getting into when it comes to Mac. PC is where it’s at when it comes to recording, the possibilities are endless.
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