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12.5 inch Rifled Muzzle Loading Gun, 1885 

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The 12.5 inch Muzzle Loading Gun Mark I of 1885 fired a shell weighing 820 pounds (372 kg) to a range of 6,000 yards (5,586 M). It weighed 38 tons (38,610 Kg) and was generally used as a coastal defence cannon mounted in forts. The gun could fire 3 types of shell - a Palliser armour piercing shell against armoured warships, a common explosive shell for unarmored ships and a shrapnel shell to be used against small craft and assault forces.
The animation is based upon installation of 7 12.5 inch RML guns at Fort Nothe, Weymouth (UK), which protected Portland harbour. The fort, built between 1860 and 1872, was upgraded to mount these large guns in 1893-4. The underground magazines and shell rooms were also enlarged.
Firing rate would be about 3-4 minutes per gun. While the guns are spaced around the fort, usually three guns could aim on the same bearing. Ready use shells on the gun floor could speed up reloading times, and there were 4 ammunition hoists that could supply cartridges.
The video shows how the very large guns were loaded, aimed and fired from within the cramped casemates of the fort, and without the use of power or hydraulics. The loading drills are taken from the Handbook of the RML 12.5 inch 38-ton Gun, dated 1885, with much assistance and advice from historians familiar with the period.
Fort Nothe is open to the public and has many interesting exhibits covering gunnery and torpedoes from the 1880’s to the 20th century.
While this video focuses on the drill and fort, a further video is planned to show the construction of the gun and the mechanisms of the platform. Please watch this space.
The model and animation were made using Cinema 4D, and iMovie.
Music: Light Expanse (Unicorn heads), Forest of Fear (Aakash Gandhi)
References:
Handbook for the R.M.L 12.5 inch 38-ton Gun, Marks I and II, 1885
Drawings of Fort Nothe, The National Archives
Permanent Fortifications for English Engineers, Major J F Lewis, 1890
Victorian Forts & Artillery (victorianforts.co.uk)
My thanks to all who assisted and advised me, and in particular:
the Curator and team at Fort Nothe
Duncan Williams

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@ilike8590
@ilike8590 Год назад
I love how you used the same target ship for years now. Maybe we can see a dedicated video on it in the future?
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Год назад
He gave the name of the ship in some earlier videos
@ducksarecool5313
@ducksarecool5313 Год назад
I think it is the Messena French pre dreadnought battleship
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
Jauréguiberry, a beautiful French ship, 1896.
@undertow619
@undertow619 Год назад
I can't imagine how laborious it was when these guns were built and installed in the first place!
@samiamrg7
@samiamrg7 Год назад
They had to use mules for most of the pulling and lifting. There are even bigger guns installed at Malta which almost couldn’t be pulled up the hills no matter how many big hauling mules they got pulling them.
@nigel900
@nigel900 Год назад
Millennial/Gen-Z need not apply.
@loadslmgwithreligiousintent
​@@samiamrg7 The 100-ton Armstrong Guns, yes?
@DraigBlackCat
@DraigBlackCat Год назад
​@@samiamrg7two were installed on Malta and two at Gibraltar.
@adriandunne4382
@adriandunne4382 Год назад
The 100 ton guns were also rifled muzzle loading but were on disappearing mounts and were operated by hydraulic machinery powered by steam engines.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 Год назад
What I love about this animation is how it highlights just big of a improvement big bore breechloading made to the reload speed and safety with the advent of smokeless powder making it even safer still. The little details of how powder and shells were handled are also amazing to watch as most people seem to think that safety measures are a new invention, but here we see special uniforms and cordoning off the powder room to keep the spread of black powder dust to a minimum so as to limit fire risks. Weapons are interesting but the systems and means of producing and operating those weapons open up a whole new world of research and learning.
@masaharumorimoto4761
@masaharumorimoto4761 Год назад
Amazing! Grew up in Halifax and saw lots of various shore defense cannons from the centuries, thanks for giving me a better understanding of what York Redoubt was like back in the dizzay lol.
@mikeyb856
@mikeyb856 Год назад
I can't imagine standing behind that beast as it fired. Amazing video
@tenofprime
@tenofprime Год назад
I can only imagine how stressful it had to be for the guys who were briefly in front (4:35 and bit after) with the power loaded as you shove that bullet in.
@malcolmtudor8039
@malcolmtudor8039 Год назад
Nice work on the animations. Great little history lesson on what the life of a gunner was like in the 19th century.
@taoranchen7130
@taoranchen7130 Год назад
不知道有啥可羞耻的,这是中国政府的政策导致的,不应该算到香港人身上。大陆居民去香港要港澳通行证,英国人免签,这样的政策一出,必然导致香港人认为自己高于大陆人,但是低于英国人;他们也会认为,英语高于粤语,但是粤语高于普通话。空姐说大陆的乘客不会粤语不说人话,首先是中国政府没有把本国国民当人。在中国,在华洋人甚至黑人,港澳台同胞是一等人婆罗门,少数民族二等人刹帝利,北上广三等人吠舍,其他城市的四等人首陀罗,农村户口(北上广除外)五等人贱民达利特。印度的种姓在文化里,宗教里,我们的种姓在政策上,在身份证户口本里。在印度教里,你可以给一个达利特许诺,只要受够了今生的罪来世会变成婆罗门。在中国这样一个宣扬人人平等,但其实是以户口身份划分的种姓制度中,对于普通中小城城市和农村居民,我们要许给他们什么呢?来生不做中国人?然后就可以享受不用好好学习就上好大学,还给你配异性学伴,学费全免还有生活补助?这和恐怖分子想象中的天堂有七个处女陪伴颇为相似。共产主义就是人间天堂,是的但不是中国人的,尤其不是持有大陆居民身份证的人的,更不是非北上广大陆居民的。
@jelly.212
@jelly.212 Год назад
@@taoranchen7130 Well said
@guillaumeroncin5870
@guillaumeroncin5870 Год назад
Always a pleasure to watch your channel. Thanks !
@ZeroScotland
@ZeroScotland Год назад
Imagine you did all this, *only to miss the ship by a few feet*
@cowstable
@cowstable Месяц назад
Well, that would achieve the same effect: the ship would not hang around!
@pseudonymsam
@pseudonymsam Год назад
Some say the gun crew is still reloading to this day...
@johnbray3143
@johnbray3143 Год назад
A tour de force! I love the details like the use of the red bar for the ramrods.
@artyomgunard4491
@artyomgunard4491 Год назад
Perfect for home defense
@puebespuebes8589
@puebespuebes8589 Год назад
You may have trouble fitting it into your pocket, that's why you can mount it on your wall
@billwilson7841
@billwilson7841 Год назад
just like the founding fathers intended
@basilreid257
@basilreid257 Год назад
Outstanding video with one of the last muzzle loaders. It puts you right there!
@MM22966
@MM22966 Год назад
Fantastic recreation, thank you! All that sweat and careful engineering to keep a muzzle-loader of that size fed! And then consider when they did shoot, they would (all other things being equal) miss with a majority of shots. I bet the guy on the shell hoist crank bar was like: "Oi! When are we getting a steam engine for this bloody thing!? It's nearly the 20th-Century! Let's get some modern tech going!"
@thomascoe2798
@thomascoe2798 11 месяцев назад
This is an incredible work of animation and modeling! All I can think while watching the whole process of reloading this huge cannon is, “There has to be an easier way to do this...”. Even a breech-loader would make this simpler. But that was how it was done.
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt 11 месяцев назад
The breeches of large breech loading guns at the time were very heavy and needed power to open and remove them, so only were suitable for steam powered ships. Another point - coastal forts were always the poor relation, so got the obsolescent left-overs. However, with ample man-power, they were very effective. Rob
@Listener970
@Listener970 Год назад
It's good to see you back and making this wonderful animations. Always quality work
@seesafar9912
@seesafar9912 Год назад
Thank you. They have these at Ft. Pulaski, GA- about 3 miles away.
@OPGamer-wp1si
@OPGamer-wp1si 4 месяца назад
The most beautiful explanation that I had ever seen with animation. Truly Great. 👍👍
@mika_shirogami45
@mika_shirogami45 Год назад
It's good to have you back, Commander!! Your army is waiting for you now, the seat of command shall return to its rightful owner
@RonaldDump_real
@RonaldDump_real Год назад
Bro this gun fight gonna be fire like reloading a round every 5 minutes
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
But there were 7 of them in the fort
@na3044
@na3044 Год назад
Glad to see you alive! Thanks for the upload.
@Smartass-pl3nx
@Smartass-pl3nx Год назад
Imagine taking several minutes to load this cannon only to completely miss the target when you fire
@BLECHHAUS
@BLECHHAUS Год назад
Again - a masterpiece, a pleasure to view and very instructive. Thank you very much for uploading!!!
@NerdZEY
@NerdZEY Год назад
"instructive"?
@BLECHHAUS
@BLECHHAUS Год назад
@@NerdZEY I did not know how to handle a 12.5 inch gun. So it was instructive for me.
@rre9121
@rre9121 Год назад
OOOOHHHHH MMMYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOODDDDDD! THERE WAS A MAN ON THE CARRIAGE WHEN THE GUN WENT OFF?! It's nuts what it took to reload these huge muzzleloading rifles. The manpower required for each mount is absurd.
@robertcornelius3514
@robertcornelius3514 Год назад
A complete standstill if no dolly. "Hey, did Samuel ever bring back the dolly from last hay gathering?"
@pcka12
@pcka12 Год назад
I wonder how much of this installation still exists? My grandmother (who lived until i was in my late teens) was born in 1886, so for me this technology was part of 'living memory'!
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q-wA30zjisQ.html
@sahhaf1234
@sahhaf1234 Год назад
it is such a joy seeing a new video from you...
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 Год назад
Fascinating... similar to the casements at Fort Tilbury on the Thames.
@shan9usfc
@shan9usfc Год назад
Meanwhile Krupp already fielded breach loading arty during the Franco Prussian war in 1870s. Whereas the French still used muzzle loading cannons, I can see how they lost the war despite the contrast in infantry weapons.
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
There is a massive difference between a small field gun that can be moved with a field army and a sizeable gun for coastal defence against armoured warships. Most advanced nations were fielding small calibre breech loading field guns successfully in the 1870s, including Britain. However the problem of sealing the breech end of a large calibre (8 inch or more) required material technology that did not exist at the time. The British reverted to Rifled Muzzle Loading guns about 1865 having seen that their design of breech loading large calibre guns were faulty, and that in comparison, rifled muzzle loading guns were stronger, capable of firing heavier shells further, quicker to reload and cheaper, so reverted to RML. However by 1880, metallurgy knowledge had advanced so that better steel was available, and an explosion on HMS Thunderer in1879 showed the end of muzzle loaders in platforms that had powerful guns. However, RML guns were still cheaper, easier to load without powered systems, and were readily available. So Forts used the RML guns that were available, using relatively cheap military labour. R
@kino_61
@kino_61 Год назад
I just came back from a trip in Malta where those cannons could be found in every fort
@filzaadhe632
@filzaadhe632 Год назад
When i was a kid i wonderred and imagined how the firearm was work and it's mechanism ,and this chanell answer it all in perfectly detailed piece by piece,never expected that some of the technology behind it was so complicated👍
@kpadmirer
@kpadmirer Год назад
...And by the time the gun is loaded and ready for firing, the enemy ship has surrendered out of boredom.
@ChodaStanks
@ChodaStanks Год назад
Wow didnt know Muzzleloader cannon were still relevant in 1885
@bato1903
@bato1903 Год назад
Новое качественное видео. Спасибо. Но почему не в разрешении 1080p?
@Ratzfourtyfour
@Ratzfourtyfour Год назад
There's much more manual labor to fire this thing than I had expected.
@anandawongwm5055
@anandawongwm5055 2 месяца назад
Imagine this cannon is the longest reload ever lol 😂
@gasengineguy
@gasengineguy Год назад
Great as always, thank you so much for these
@basfinnis
@basfinnis Год назад
So interesting. The animation is wonderful.
@iceman7975
@iceman7975 Год назад
Congratulations on the excellent graphical presentation,it impressive and of a high quality. In Gibraltar you can find many examples of these guns, and their corresponding Iron shields.
@Jaalco2003
@Jaalco2003 9 месяцев назад
imagine going through that whole process only to miss
@robertodebeers2551
@robertodebeers2551 Год назад
lots more labor intensive than the little 105mm howitzers I was on back in the day.
@markmulligan571
@markmulligan571 Год назад
Bravo, well done! I need more data: rate of fire immediate and sustained, angles of traverse and mutual coverage, # of men involved in each operation. It would be nice to see the same model in BB Missouri or Hood, say.
@simonjackson7269
@simonjackson7269 Год назад
Nothe Fort is a museum now..
@darknut9696
@darknut9696 Год назад
there's a similar gun at Landguard Fort at Felixstowe docks
@franciscogarcia3031
@franciscogarcia3031 4 месяца назад
The freaking music gets on you die faster not from the canon explosion but from the music killed the video this freaking music
@JimmySailor
@JimmySailor Год назад
Standing on that carriage and having that gun come directly back at you on recoil took some serious nerve.
@N1originalgazza
@N1originalgazza Год назад
Thanks for the video, not all the operations required for this type of "superguns" are known.
@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю
We have been waiting for this
@lu3ee
@lu3ee Год назад
On Martin Garcia Island we still have some, they don't work but they are in very good condition (museum)
@mr.normalguy69
@mr.normalguy69 Год назад
You have to admire the Victorian era engineering.
@davidmurphy8190
@davidmurphy8190 Год назад
The Alexandra Battery on the east side of Bermuda has a configuration similar to your images, especially the right-hand gun in a “Gibraltar”-style embrasure.
@mohawkdriver4155
@mohawkdriver4155 Год назад
These videos are mesmerizing. Love them.
@morkovija
@morkovija Год назад
top quality content as always. thank you
@johnforeman6620
@johnforeman6620 Год назад
Brilliant, as ever, Bob.
@simplyminded3529
@simplyminded3529 Год назад
Whole new meaning to making that one shot count…
@breathedeepandseekadventur7302
@breathedeepandseekadventur7302 4 месяца назад
This kind of animation is amazing and I can see how difficult this would be to make. Did you use blender? I've only got to the point where I can animate a cup and a donut. But how can I learn to make this kind of stuff? Because this is the kind of stuff I want to learn and no one seems to make tutorials on this kind of stuff sadly
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt 4 месяца назад
Hi, To see really good Blender work, look up RNBreech videos. I use Cinema 4D, as this suits may way of working, and I use almost exclusively basic objects and splines that I can rotate, extrude, loft or sweep. Then I use boolean operations to cut or shape. I never got my head round the art of pushing or pulling polygons (I am getting too old to waste time with this artistic stuff). I work from drawings of mechanical devices, wherever possible from orthogonal drawings, scanned from books. I clean up the scans, crop and enlarge them and then print onto A4 paper, which I then paste together (it is very important to use a fixed size crop otherwise the printouts might not be to the same scale). Then to create the splines, I simply set a reference point on my enlarged drawings, and enter individual co-ordinate points from the drawing directly into a spline. All you need to do this is a ruler. I know this is horribly inefficient, and proper 3D artists will sneer at my crude technique, but it suits me. Best way to learn is to get some drawings and start, then find out what works for you.
@breathedeepandseekadventur7302
@breathedeepandseekadventur7302 4 месяца назад
@@vbbsmyt thank you so much 🙏
@MorangRus
@MorangRus 11 месяцев назад
Rifling direction on the shell and in the barrel is shown different, also shell has to rotate while being rammed home as its protrusions are engaging the barrel rifling. Interesting moment at 9:35. Where can I read about the magazine clothing? No pockets because of safety? To prevent stealing the gunpowder or smuggling any smoking paraphernalia in?
@SmileyFace01
@SmileyFace01 Год назад
fully autonomous! Incredible!
@freddyli5356
@freddyli5356 Год назад
Oh there is a monument made based on this gun in whampoa, Hong Kong, which there was even statue of people using the gun, but there are gone and just only the now.
@ЕвгенийНик-э5э
@ЕвгенийНик-э5э Год назад
French ship + english cannon = Euro friendship ))
@abercrombieblovs2042
@abercrombieblovs2042 Год назад
Have you done any videos on triple expansion steam engines?
Год назад
Nicely done Video
@lyedavide
@lyedavide Год назад
Phenomenal animation!!
@SamOrca-n3q
@SamOrca-n3q Год назад
That big leap on industry
@DenisR1973
@DenisR1973 Год назад
Excellent animation! Is that small pond used for flooding magazines in case of fire?
@RobMcGinley81
@RobMcGinley81 Год назад
Awesome, I would love to see you do the 100 Ton Gun at Fort Rinella, Malta!
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eyItmfUO3WA.html
@BIG-DIPPER-56
@BIG-DIPPER-56 Год назад
Very Good - Thank You ! 😎👍
@fabiovezzari2895
@fabiovezzari2895 Год назад
Wow so much complexity
@garyneilson1833
@garyneilson1833 Год назад
Excellent video, thank you
@stupitdog9686
@stupitdog9686 Год назад
Look's like really hard, tedious work! They were lucky they had those wooden robots to do it!!
@aldodelaguila8222
@aldodelaguila8222 Год назад
Excellent as ever!
@boowiebear
@boowiebear Год назад
Great video! That is a lot of work to reload.
@ottodertrucker5327
@ottodertrucker5327 Год назад
This Video is beautiful and verry interesting!!!.....thanks
@jkwo2007
@jkwo2007 Год назад
So how about an unused shell and its propellant? Just leave them in the chamber for the next time? Or there is still a way to retrieve them?
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
My other video, 12.5 inch RML Technical Details, shows how it was possible to grapple a shell and withdraw it after a practice drill. However, standing in front of a loaded gun and poking a grappling rod around a live and fused shell is probably not a good idea. In addition, if it took 8 men to ram the shell, I would assume a similar number would be needed to extract the full weight 800 pound shell. So I would assume that if the threat has gone away, they would just fire the gun, and blow the expense. Definitely not a good idea to leave the gun loaded.
@Koutsie
@Koutsie Год назад
It'd be awesome if you'd give downloads to your models or hell - sell them!
@josefaksoy42
@josefaksoy42 Год назад
This gun seems wildly impractical to use in battle!? Cant believe it's real
@JostVanWair
@JostVanWair Год назад
Name a better system, then.
@josefaksoy42
@josefaksoy42 Год назад
@@JostVanWair breech-loading for one
@JostVanWair
@JostVanWair Год назад
@@josefaksoy42 The video says 1885 but this gun was first used in 1875; a time where breech-loading guns suffered from issues regarding reliability, effectiveness and complexity. A muzzle loader like this was often more powerful and easier to use.
@Marc.Th.25
@Marc.Th.25 Год назад
Great vid !
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 Год назад
So, we wouldn't consider these to be "Rapid Firing" guns?
@jamesraymond1158
@jamesraymond1158 Год назад
Wonderful animation. Thank you. There were good elec motors in 1885. They would have greatly reduced the amount of manpower needed.
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
Problen was that there was no electrical supply to the fort.
@TheAussieTank563
@TheAussieTank563 Год назад
could you do fort Nepean next?
@princessofthecape2078
@princessofthecape2078 11 месяцев назад
Weren't breech-loaders available around this time?
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt 11 месяцев назад
Yes they were, but the breeches of large breech loading guns at the time were very heavy and needed power to open and remove them, so only were suitable for steam powered ships. Another point - coastal forts were always the poor relation, so got the obsolescent left-overs. However, with ample man-power, they were very effective. Rob
@alm5992
@alm5992 Год назад
Would a guy seriously be standing right behind that as it shot!? Is he supposed to report if they hit or not? I can't imagine he could see much immediately after firing.
@Absaalookemensch
@Absaalookemensch Год назад
What was the reload time? I imagine in times of high alert, several shells would be lifted-up from the magazine before hand.
@zyanidwarfare5634
@zyanidwarfare5634 Год назад
That looks like a massive pain in the ass from the process of sponging it alone, you gotta screw on another handle
@garrettmineo
@garrettmineo Год назад
Great work!
@Mitch24magic
@Mitch24magic Год назад
Absolutely great videos! I salute you Sir 🫡
@kennkoala
@kennkoala Год назад
What was the actual rate of fire? If they fired once every minute I'd consider that too slow, and surely the crews had shortcuts.
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
Why do you consider a firing rate of one shot a minute too slow?
@hansvandijk1487
@hansvandijk1487 8 месяцев назад
Excellent video! Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱.
@최혁수-g5y
@최혁수-g5y Год назад
It must be real hard to clean and load in small space between wall and muzzle.
@carlosfabianmaciel9643
@carlosfabianmaciel9643 Год назад
Impressive work!!!!!!
@GeneralAdmiral279
@GeneralAdmiral279 Год назад
What would be the rate of fire for these?
@clpfox470
@clpfox470 Год назад
to think in only what, 20 years this gun would be completely obsolete with hms dreadnaughts 12 inch guns, still wouldnt wanna be on the reciving end of that reguardless
@pawepaw5991
@pawepaw5991 11 месяцев назад
My dumbass thought its an artilerry piece drifting on the thumbnail
@AndreyOgan
@AndreyOgan Год назад
6:18 What are those three things to go up? Circuit breakers? Or a valve?
@vbbsmyt
@vbbsmyt Год назад
Gun sights.Those are the rear sights.
@ItsJustJokes_
@ItsJustJokes_ Год назад
Imagine doing all of that to just miss 😂😂😂
@jennenredston8137
@jennenredston8137 3 месяца назад
Is that the same cannon in coregidor island?
@Reezour_Waargh
@Reezour_Waargh Год назад
is it was dangerous defence or not? looks like it has very slow reload cycle.
@pelicanopolis877
@pelicanopolis877 Год назад
OMG somebody hurry up and invent the breech loader!
@cuocsongthuviquanhta
@cuocsongthuviquanhta Год назад
Vẽ 3D rất tuyệt và thú vị. Great video. Love from Vietnam !
@dell177
@dell177 Год назад
How long did it take to reload one of these guns?
@xrotor7813
@xrotor7813 Год назад
REally great annimation/cgi. At around 8:20 there is what looks like a fairly large pool of water. Does someone know the purpose of this pool? Is it part of some kind of safety system that would allow the magazine to be flooded maybe?
@johnbray3143
@johnbray3143 Год назад
Its the drinking water cistern for the fort
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