12 Alternative Operating Systems You Can Use Today

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Bored of Windows, Mac OS or Linux? There is more to try than just the standard 'big three' OSes. I take a look at 12 amazingly alternative Operating Systems you can use.
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Operating Systems mentioned:
Haiku OS: www.haiku-os.org/
ReactOS: reactos.org/
Friend: friendos.com/ - For a FREE demo account email info@friendos.com or visit their discord at: / discord
ARAnyM: aranym.github.io/
Risc OS Open: www.riscosopen.org/content/
MorphOS: www.morphos-team.net/
ArcaOS: www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/
AROS: aros.sourceforge.net/
Oracle Solaris 11: www.oracle.com/uk/solaris/sol...
Minix: www.minix3.org/
AmigaOS 4.1: www.amigaos.net/
TempleOS: templeos.org/
Sources used in this video:
The Computer Chronicles - New PCs (1996): • The Computer Chronicle...
The Computer Chronicles - OS/2 Warp (1994): • The Computer Chronicle...
ArcaOS (the new OS/2) Review" - Lunduke Hour (used with permission): • "ArcaOS (the new OS/2)...
Terry A. Davis' TempleOS RU-vid Channel Archive: archive.org/details/TerryADav...
TempleOS | Down the Rabbit Hole: • TempleOS | Down the Ra...
BeOS Demo Video: • BeOS DEMO VIDEO
Acorn Archimedes - A Technical Introduction: • Acorn Archimedes - A T...
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@custardo 4 года назад

When using Haiku Expect frequent encounters With faults and poems

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 года назад

Haiku, the OS Some think Apple should have bought Instead of NeXTStep...

@russellhamner4898 4 года назад

Hear it, you may not. But smell it you will! Silence is deadly.

@TimMustain 4 года назад

Errors have happened we do not know how or why lazy programmers

@TriniLush7 4 года назад

Lmao you got me 😂😂😂

@pacbilly 4 года назад

Fancy bumping in To you here, Custardo. Fan See bumping indeed.

@kneekoo 4 года назад

Others worth mentioning: - FreeBSD (quite surprised it wasn't mentioned, as it's very well known in the industry) - MenuetOS (programmed in assembly language, super efficient, although not enough software) - Redox (young OS, programmed in Rust, remarkable for the progress in its latest release, already capable of playing Doom and Duke 3D, along with DOSBox for plenty of DOS games)

@kneekoo 7 месяцев назад

Fresh bonus item on the list: Serenity OS. The founder started a youtube channel, streaming the operating system's development, even working live on bugs, adding features, and even porting some games to the OS. Now they're also working on their own browser, which is something seen like an impossible task with so many standards nowadays. Serenity OS is truly a geek-only item for now, because you have to compile the whole thing yourself, and run it in a virtual machine. But this is definitely worth a top spot on your bookmark list, because they're moving fast and even have employees. And what's great about their youtube activity is that they have monthly progress videos, where stuff is summarized nicely. Binging the monthly reports was awesome - it takes some time, but you can pretty much see how the OS shaped up into something better and better...

@esotericjahanism5251 6 месяцев назад

Odd FreeBSD was not in this list considering its actually used in enterprise

@spaceghostmiid 3 месяца назад

KolibriOS is a fork of Menuet that includes more software including a web browser and basic office software.

@Krasov92 3 месяца назад

Rust doesn't sell it

@phobet 4 года назад

I remember running OS/2 Warp back in the day. It really was a "Better Windows than Windows, Better DOS than DOS". It was absolutely hard to kill, and much more stable then either of them.

@wipatriot510 4 года назад

AND, it was a true 32-bit OS...

@thomasleemullins4372 2 года назад

I used to use it too. Working on using the newer versions of it.

@illegalquantity Год назад

Yeah, but too bad, it was not useful for anything..

@SteveTeeIridium-Plus Год назад

I remember rushing to buy OS/2 Warp when it was released - unfortunately, it ran like a sloth that took benzodiazepines on my machine (around half the speed of the current Windows at the time). It lasted 2 days before I uninstalled it.

@jan80trs Год назад

It was easy to make OS/2 faster: 1. more RAM. 2. loose the Workplace Shell. It was an OO-based shell, the likes I have never seen again, but it was HEAVY. MiniShell gave far better performance, while being able to run all Windows 3 and OS/2 applications. With TShell, ypu could run it with 2 MB RAM, as a server in text-mode. I demoed Minishell on a 386sx and 10 MB RAM and performance was zippy!

@krzychaczu 4 года назад

10:43 Many don't realise, that they have MINIX embedded inside of their Intel processor, up and running even when the computer is "powered off". BSD family systems, like FreeBSD are missing, despite having much larger user groups than many mentioned here.

@davidm.4670 3 года назад

MINIX in Intel - running when powered off ??? How run when powered off? or "pwr off" vs Pwr Off (really)?

@krzychaczu 3 года назад

That's right. When the computer is connected to a power socket, some components are already powered up, even when the computer is not fully "started-up". This allows to "wake up on LAN" or, in this case, perform some computer maintenance tasks remotely even when the user turned the computer down. www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/

@davidm.4670 3 года назад

@@krzychaczu Ah - yes, - tend to not think about that but makes much sense -- However I run my systems off switchable power strip & after 'shutdown' finishes I usually flip the switch on the power bar = really off ;-)

@rebane2001 2 года назад

@@davidm.4670 Your motherboard probably has a battery on it

@davidm.4670 2 года назад

@@rebane2001 Quite sure it does, maintains clock/(calendar) volitle bios config etc. but I don't think that is 'running'. Difference between commanded off (shutdown) and switched off as in no access to line power...

@JelloPotate 4 года назад

did not expect temple OS on here. Props

@nicwilson6587 4 года назад

Listen to a nice piece about TempleOS on BBC Radio 4 last year, nice to see what it looked like :)

@askhowiknow5527 4 года назад

PotateJello It should go open source. We should all be programming kexts in Holy C.

@hoobsug 4 года назад

@@askhowiknow5527 its public domain

@BrettonFerguson 4 года назад

I clicked on this just to see if Temple OS was on the list.

@sed8me69 4 года назад

It's nice to see it again, well deserving of a full feature vid. Still kinda stings hey. What that dude made is beyond known maths.

@wasd____ 4 года назад

I wish ReactOS was moving more quickly in development. It'd be nice to have a meaningful, fully working alternative to Microsoft's Windows.

@kienhwengtai8113 4 года назад

For an OS, it moves really slow. It's an open source Windows 2000/XP.

@kienhwengtai8113 4 года назад

@@AstroKitty16 I've played with it. And it just randomly crashes for no reason ...

@patlab555 4 года назад

@@kienhwengtai8113 Like the real Windows...

@davidm.4670 4 года назад

working alt to Win ~ linux ...

@wasd____ 4 года назад

@@davidm.4670 Linux isn't an alternative to Windows, however badly we may wish it was.

@skaruts 4 года назад

Legend has it Haiku's REAL source code is only 3 lines of code.

@maanviss3840 2 года назад

@Nicolás Agustín and the third line number command is 'goto line 1' ... 😁

@mikewoodman2872 4 года назад

Man oh man I remember BeOS back in the day! As I recall, it allowed the user to load the OS entirely into RAM from a CD or DVD so you didn't need to fully install it to try it out - so that's what I I did. It was fun for about 30 minutes, exploring how it does this or displays that - and then I had the sobering thought "what now? I can't load any software onto this whatsoever". And so, I rebooted into Windows and moved on. Kind of sad nothing became of it.

@renatomartins2086 4 года назад

So... This explains why the "big three" are the "big three" operating systems

@saganandroid4175 4 года назад

How so?

@zymagoras 4 года назад

Because they are shit compared to the big 3

@tyh2989 4 года назад

@@zymagoras ...but Haiku has potential . It needs a leap of " iteration" . I'm afraid the developers will die off before Haiku reaches 1.0.

@bobrobertson9547 4 года назад

I installed a couple of these distros and although they worked on... there was a limited amount on software available (for my needs anyway) and there were no audio drivers written for my sound card which gave me a real problem given J was going to try and use it for music production.

@RP-kr2mg 4 года назад

Linux - Debian - Ubuntu - ZorinOS!

@MARRANCA2 4 года назад

I was a hardcore BeOS user. I loved the speed and the security. When Be died, a piece of me did, too

@billysherman2702 2 года назад

Be could have been the next MacOS, but politics.

@babyboomertwerkteam5662 2 года назад

@@billysherman2702 no politics, Apple just decided they wanted something UNIX-like instead of BeOS.

@MetalTrabant 3 года назад

This video is a goldmine for geeks loving to explore some very obscure OS's! Thanks for the suggestions, will definitely try some of them! I've only tried ReactOS and Minix so far, the rest is almost completely unknown to me...

@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 4 года назад

An OS without apps is like a city without people...

@wolfgangk2824 4 года назад

Exactly! That is why I opt for beautiful Linux. I will try Harmony when it is available.

@PyroSyndicate 4 года назад

You should see the suite they have on the friend one! There are office apps, games software dev apps, alot more like!

@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 4 года назад

@@PyroSyndicate how well developed is the thematic about disability and accessibility? Also, the multiple hardware ecosystem there exists does have any issue when is tried to plug it to the machine that runs those OSes with beautiful GUIs?

@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 4 года назад

With Windows 10, the Insider Preview 19541, right now, is I can run my screen sensitive laptop connected to 2 75inches Samsung TVs with touch enabled accessory bars and one LG projector at 120inch size with a Wacom wireless tactile graphic tablet; because I need to amplify the screen the bigger the best. I don't know if with all these OSes I can have such flexibility.

@eternafuentedeluzdivina3189 4 года назад

@@taimurSM what can? Can you do a dictation in any available language? also can you sent complex commands? The Linux distro can tell you what are you pointing at or read the screen items for you? The system can zoom your screen at 1200% or up? I would like to test any OS that could that without sacrifice a lot of resources like Windows 10 is doing with my computer. Also, the OS must have wide availability of software for production. I've doing my own research and Linux apps are not very suitable for implement a robust help in such fields of working environments like I need daily. That is the why I've not do the switch. At this time, Linux is near the stage that Windows Mobile OS were left: a system with great possibilities not so explored due the lack of serious investments /desire for create good and strong apps.

@KingOfComedyXD 2 года назад

TempleOS is the best option

@alasdairlumsden670 4 года назад

Great video, and nice to see a mention of OpenSolaris. The kernel and core userland of Solaris was forked as illumos, but the OpenSolaris distribution was forked as OpenIndiana. There are quite a few distros based on the illumos core, including some quite advanced ones such as SmartOS, designed for cloud computing.

@dpwellman Год назад

SmartOS is a great one. Very niche, though.

@red13emerald 2 года назад

You forgot to mention that minix runs on pretty much every Intel PC these days inside the Management Engine that is built into every Intel CPU. This probably makes it the most widely-used OS you showed here.

@NazmusLabs 8 месяцев назад

wait seriously?! I need to know more about its history! May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.

@red13emerald 8 месяцев назад

@@NazmusLabs Jup. Just google "minix intel me" and you'll find loads of articles about it. The wikipedia article about the Intel ME also mentions this fact. I can't post direct links, they'll get my comment hidden.

@TyrusChristiana 2 года назад

I really enjoyed this video Dan. Like several flashbacks in one short sitting. Excellent. I look forward to viewing your other stuff. Kudos!

@andersj2963 4 года назад

Great video! That wallpaper on the Amiga OS 4 was a nice touch. SAAB 900 is a classic!

@KC9UDX 4 года назад

So was the shot of the Pi atop an Amiga

@kquat7899 4 года назад

"amazingly alternative" rather than "amazing alternative".

@CaptainTae 4 года назад

Bro... you're not going to BELIEVE how alternative this is. Amazingly so!

@narobii9815 4 года назад

I mean yeah, amazingly alternative is the right way to put most of these.

@CaptainTae 3 года назад

@@kwanele_dev Nonsense.

@kurtreber9813 3 года назад

This phrasing stuck out with me as well. It worked

@BAgodmode 3 года назад

Amazing alternatively operating systems.

@Peeves22 4 года назад

I was worried this would just be a bunch of linux distros, but there were so many cool and niche os listed here! Awesome video!

@adamlucas556 3 года назад

@Dan Wood I was really interested in the FriendOS concent and just installed from source (very unstable) and then deployed the Docker container (very stable). I've been trying to reach devs for a few questions / features that aren't working but haven't had much luck. Since you said you're directly involved I thought I might shake the trees here.

@nytrex2001 4 года назад

Glad to see RISC OS getting some love. A tiny OS with big potential.

@markarca6360 4 года назад

It rose again in popularity because of the Raspberry Pi.

@nytrex2001 4 года назад

@@markarca6360 I agree. I think it becoming Open Source also helped a too. But yeah, Raspberry Pi opened the door.

@lordzeuscannon6400 3 года назад

Debian is better than arch. And debian is only if you can compile your own programs from scratch

@o.aggelos 2 года назад

@@lordzeuscannon6400 both are equally good, despite being day and night.

@linuxization4205 Год назад

RISC os on x86???

@thingsiplay 3 года назад

FreeBSD, an Unix compatible system, is missing here. Worth mentioning also: Remix OS Otherwise cool list. There was some interesting systems I wasn't aware of. And a big plus for including TempleOS. ;-)

@glenesis 4 года назад

Great collection video. Thanks for making & sharing. I had no idea Minix is still alive!

@KarstenJohansson 4 года назад

I noticed the couple of Amiga-style operating systems have dropped a feature that I thought helped set it apart from the others. Back in the day, you could have arbitrarily sized desktop icons, and they didn't even have to be square or rectangular. Since the desktop understood image transparency, you could get really inventive with the look of your desktop. For example, a cloud icon would look like a cloud - not like a cloud-on-a-postage-stamp.

@BarfusWOW 4 года назад

or when you loaded a CD the icon usually covered 75% of available desktop space

@KC9UDX 4 года назад

Even Amiga didn't really do that. Yeah it was possible and a lot of software did it but the OS was pretty standardised, and most people followed the standards (several times over!).

@bobsagget823 2 года назад

who cares

@steved1387 Год назад

@@bobsagget823 People who enjoy fun, unexpected features in operating systems. For me, this was a feature of AmigaOS that helped set it apart from all others as a more enjoyable environment to work in,

@PeterRichardsandYoureNot 3 года назад

OS/2 was an amazing truly multitasking system. It was used in several platforms that required rock solid performance and steady multi-tasking. For instance the voice mail system we had for a 75 employee company ran on OS/2 with dialogic cards connected through a back end to our NEC mark 14 multi-trunk phone system which supported t-1 connectivity to our remote office with 15 more sales staff with heavy phone usage. We also ran an award winning system called Fax-O-Max which allowed people to dial in and enter a 4 digit code which ran in their print directory ads. The system would the fax, to a number they entered, a menu or whatever they had stored. An industry first and something I designed on a whim in the mid 90s to take advantage of the power of the system.

@thomasleemullins4372 2 года назад

There are two updated version of OS/2 Warp. One is eComStaion, which seems stalled in development. The other is ArcaOS by Arca Nose. It is still being developed

@DocKingliveshere 7 месяцев назад

On a dare I made OS/2 Warp 3&4 VM's. I still start them up every so often just to play.

@jeffmcclure4047 7 месяцев назад

Lotus Notes for email? Every conversion to MSmail from LN was a complete coin toss. One would take 5 minutes and work perfect and the next would take days and have to be picked through to find that one attachment or email causing everything to fail.

@Longplay_Games Год назад

I'm just stoked you went the whole time without mentioning Plan 9 :D

@dappermuis5002 4 года назад

Archimedes now that brings back happy memories. My dad ordered the PC's from England. We had been using them as far back as the BBC's. Needless to say we were not happy when they stopped making PC's. Going to Windows after using that, was like someone taking your sports car away and giving you a skateboard to work with :-( Especially when most people here if they had a computer were either using DOS or 3.1 or maybe 95. Back in 87 we already had 'windows' on a Archimedes while everyone else was using DOS. So never really took to Microsoft. Some of the Features we had on the Archimedes were only eventually covered by Windows in Windows 8!. But I must admit for what it could do, XP was the one that was usable didn't really take to 7 and oh man don't get me started on the mess that is 10. I'm now using Linux Mint and am very happy.

@barrydixon2986 4 года назад

I switched to Linux Mint after frustrations with Windows 10. After some hesitation I fully ditched Win 10 and now love Mint. With Wine I can run some Windows software I didn't want to leave behind. All my software is now free, and with Libre Office its goodbye to MS office as well. I won't be going back.

@rogernoble2859 4 года назад

I know very little about computers but was recently compelled to move from XP to Win 10. An unmitigated disaster with all those changes to accommodate the smartphone users. The end of computing as we knew it. I hate Windows 10.

@DownhillAllTheWay 3 года назад

I'm on Win-7, but because of the end of maintenance, with its attendant risk of virus infection, I'm facing a move to W-10 with some distaste, and I've been pondering a move to Linux instead. It's a problem, though, as a lot of Linux-compatible software is quite clunky by comparison. I was put on my guard by the insistence of Microsoft that I should load W-10, even sending it to me, unsolicited. Since then, I've read that running W-10 is like handing Microsoft a snooper's charter.

@lordzeuscannon6400 3 года назад

I boot up linux mint every couple months to see how far development has come. Still not a usable OS for gaming. And that's not likely going to change in the future

@dylan.t180 4 года назад

wow I don't think I have discovered this much OS info I had no idea existed thanks for the awesome video

@andyl.3567 4 года назад

BeOS was the most expensive operating system I ever had ... when I found that my stake in this company was just penny stocks when it crashed ...

@luctimm 4 года назад

Of course, back in the day the things were different. Although Be Inc was too expensive even for Apple standards.

@Mmmm_tea 4 года назад

I used to use BeOS it was great and way ahead of its time, if you put an audio cd in the OS would transparently show the tracks as Mp3 to play or copy/encode on the fly! i did eagerly follow haiku but lost interested when someone on the team said it wouldn't ever be more than a hobby os.

@simianinc 4 года назад

M Tea - most things on here will only be hobby OSes. Even the ones that try to provide say legacy support to OS/2 apps, will limit your future employability if you spend too much time wth them.

@encycl07pedia- Год назад

Audio CD songs aren't encoded as MP3s...

@kennyj4366 4 года назад

Thank you so much for the video. Definitely going to try a few of these. 👍👍

@steamerandy 4 года назад

My pardner and I developed a multitasking DOS/TSR(Terminate and Stay Resident) OS. Its functionality provide prioritized run queues, event wait and single threading resource queues. DOS and bios calls were single thead protected by a resource queue. It was part of our Here & There PC-DOS remote control software product. It was also used in the TRUEDATA 80186 based factory floor data collection terminals and their PC polling and management software.

@saki453 4 года назад

Rest in peace Terry. You will be missed.

@czos9239 4 года назад

Saw the doc on the guy and man did that dovetail down in the end. Healthcare is completely fucked up. In an alternative reality dude would be well and working as a programmer somewhere. What a waste... and loss.

@Greenberet. 4 года назад

what doc?have a link?

@czos9239 4 года назад

@@Greenberet. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UCgoxQCf5Jg.html

@Greenberet. 4 года назад

thanks!

@darkstorminc 4 года назад

A list of obscure OSes should include Plan 9.

@simonestarace5249 4 года назад

Isn't this a Distributed Operating System that doesn't receive any more support?

@darkstorminc 4 года назад

@@simonestarace5249 "As Bell Labs has moved on to later projects in recent years, development of the official Plan 9 system has stopped. Unofficial development for the system continues on the 9front fork, where active contributors provide monthly builds and new functionality. So far, the 9front fork has provided the system Wi-Fi drivers, Audio drivers, USB support and built-in game emulator, along with other features.[16] Other recent Plan 9-inspired operating systems include Harvey OS[17] and Jehanne OS.[18]"

@simonestarace5249 4 года назад

@@darkstorminc Never heard of those 2 OS. Thanks for the info.

@xeriab 4 года назад

Inferno is the name of its successor :)

@tux9656 3 года назад

9front is better.

@mmjackk 2 года назад

Stumbled on this channel. Thank you. Top quality video. Subscribed.

@tomassosaoconnor 4 года назад

Haiku is one of the best OSs I've tried in order to give new life to an old notebook. Its problem was that it didn't have my wifi card drivers and, you know, it is still on beta stage so it may be a little bit unstable. The good thing is that the project is aiming forward and that there is plenty of software available for most office needs (libre office, audio and video editors, blender for 3D design, etc) so it may have a good future.

@johnarnold893 7 месяцев назад

There are Linux distros that will run fine on the oldest of slow computers.

@tomassosaoconnor 7 месяцев назад

@@johnarnold893 and?

@GrankFarrett 4 года назад

Haiku and ReactOS are the ones I choose to support. ReactOS for replacing Windows and run legacy software and Haiku because BeOS was and still is my favorite OS of all time.

@fluori5890 2 года назад

agreed. I know this is two years old but I'm still holding out for ReactOS, but Haiku is decent and 100% usable for general purpose stuff.

@unixtohack 2 года назад

Yes, I have still somewhere a CD of BeOS. Somewhere… In my own first years I used OS2 for daily usage and programming Telemecanique PLC for the industry. It was indeed at that time beter sheduled as W95… But industrial programming uses W10 now, which is also good… by time. I getting old...

@encycl07pedia- Год назад

ReactOS is terrible, Frank. 25+ years of development and it's still in alpha.

@slackclimax8961 4 года назад

Why no mention of the BSD's?

@jjuarez83 4 года назад

I ran FreeBSD for a while. A lot more practical than some of the mentioned systems.

@vasilis23456 4 года назад

I don't think BSD qualified as alternative enough.

@Waccoon 4 года назад

Everyone forgets that the BSDs exist.

@daishi5571 4 года назад

Unix system V, BSD, POSIX .....meh. With POSIX it kind of makes Unix flavor pointless and Solaris basically integrated all 3.

@sinephase 4 года назад

isn't OSX basically BSD anyway?

@zirus377 4 года назад

Finally, all what I needed. Thank you very much!

@EdgeOfPanic 4 года назад

Amigaaaaaaaa! Still love to play around with it on my Amiga 600 with Vampire card, my aim is to keep it up to date as possible, so much fun using a machine from decades ago and be able to use my dropbox,google drive and even watched youtube video's on it, listen to internet radio,play video's etc. And with with the vampire card you can do all of this on decent resolutions and everything runs very smooth. What i like about AmigaOS is how easy you can automate and customize almost everything,

@Mmmm_tea 4 года назад

fun fact:if you have an intel cpu you are already running a hidden embedded version of minix

@stellated 4 года назад

Running on a descendant of the Super FX chip for the SNES.

@stellated 4 года назад

@@MonsterHunterLancer Versions 1 through 10 of the Intel Management Engine (the thing that runs Minix) used an ARC processor. ARC being Argonaut RISC Core, named after Argonaut games and descended from the Super FX.

@stellated 4 года назад

@@MonsterHunterLancer It wasn't ever as popular as ARM is now (I don't think so anyway) and I don't really know what else it was used in. In 2014 Synopsis said they licensed their ARC cores to over 190 companies who sold 1.5 billion products per year with ARC processors so obviously it was/is still very common.

@Clawzoftime 4 года назад

@@stellated man you guys are interesting. Where can i find more useful comments like this?

@Zellonous 4 года назад

It's also usable as a spy device

@user-ux5hp6vp2t 4 года назад

1993 called It wants their OSes back.

@johnjohnson6142 4 года назад

Алекса Младић, I’m sorry Windows but 1993 wants their os back

@tripolitan 4 года назад

@No Name no eye candy = minimalist.

@magnumopus9631 4 года назад

@@tripolitan ya was wondering that too lol

@IngwiePhoenix 4 года назад

1993...the year I was born. This video was awkward to watch for me o.o I am a software developer, never written an OS. ...maybe i should. o.o'

@dumbtom6831 4 года назад

Enlightening video ! Gave insights of many OS systems that could not come gain popularity.

@Kodeb8 3 года назад

I can't believe he didn't talk about BSD based operating systems!

@sennlerman1303 2 года назад

Me either, as many pieces of the BSDs have made their way into Linux to improve it, most notably OpenSSH. But I also expected to see FreeDOS on the list, if not also Inferno, VisOpSys, and the desktop version of Genode (named Sculpt).

@timothybolshaw 2 года назад

I was also surprised by the omission of the various BSD flavours. Admittedly, they tend to make better servers than desktops, but they are a more practical choice for actually getting anything done than many of the systems mentioned in the video that are often just toys.

@Sumire973 Год назад

@@timothybolshaw Possibly because he sees *BSDs as just Linux distros with a different kernel and much less support, which is partly true, because *BSDs lack an identity and personality of their own on the desktop. The other operating systems, although they may seem like toys, at least they offer something different, and that is the sad truth.

@kfcnyancat 10 месяцев назад

BSDs are a distant fourth, but still way more mainstream than anything on this video.

@michaelsimkins7078 2 месяца назад

I'm lost and confused, are y'all talking about Blue Screen of Death or something not explained to someone who doesn't speak ACRONYM!?

@Banzai51 4 года назад

I loved BeOS back in the day. But now, all the other OSes have caught up to everything it did that was amazing in the 90s.

@longbottle 4 года назад

One thing modern OSes still haven't caught up to is the buttry smoothness of BeOS even under heavy load or on low end hardware. You could turn off a CPU and the 11 videos you have playing wouldn't skip frames, your music wouldn't stutter. We threw hardware at the bloat and design faults of Windows and MacOS (which is really BSD with a colorful Mac wig on top) when BeOS' efficiency blew them all away almost 20 years ago. Computing would be very different today if BeOS had found its niche.

@herrbonk3635 4 года назад

"OSes have caught up"? Who cares? The enhancements are usually quite meaningless or can be provided by other programs. The only exception being stability and speed. As I see it, the main point is to break free from the firm grip of M$ (or Apple, Google, etc.) and owning your system, instead of leasing it.

@Banzai51 4 года назад

@@herrbonk3635 You can have the greatest OS in the world but if it doesn't run your apps, it is useless.

@herrbonk3635 4 года назад

@@Banzai51 Sure, but it was you that brough up things being "amazing" or greatness. I'm basically just interested in peace, stability and freedom (from globalistic monopolistic companies).

@lordzeuscannon6400 3 года назад

@@Banzai51 exactly why Linux distros are not an option for gaming. There's many people that say it is, but after the past year of me using distros, hardly any of my games will actually run in WINE. Windows is the only option currently, until those programs become compatible with the OS natively, without needing crappy wine

@LossyLossnitzer 4 года назад

Solaris was a great operating system until Oracle brought Sun.

@ejwerme 4 года назад

No it wasn't.

@abelardomarquez2506 4 года назад

@@ejwerme Yes, it was and still used today by Ericsson for many applications for mobile companies.

@ejwerme 4 года назад

@@abelardomarquez2506 That doesn't make it great. I preferred the BSD-based SunOS 4(?) instead of the AT&T SysV Solaris (SunOS 5?) I was a developer on DEC's Tru64 Unix, that was a good system. I focused on NFS and attended many Connectathons, so know many NFS developers for many OSes. And of course, VMS has been a very stable platform for decades, though I have very little experience with it.

@KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад

ANYTHING was great before Oracle bought it.

@tziuriky86 4 года назад

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 I was going to say the same....

@DannyMinick 4 года назад

My ears perked up when you said "Minicks" (Minix) :P Great video, Dan!

@SignalChange 4 года назад

Nice to see you back Dan, great video

@Kyusoath 4 года назад

I use Amiga OS 3.9, i'm still working on the same AMOS project since 1998.

@PixelShade 4 года назад

I was like "That's BeOS! why is it called Haiku!?..... That's so cool!" :D

@tyh2989 4 года назад

BeOS would display a haiku poem when it issued an error message . I believe this inspired the name .

@shkittle07 4 года назад

What a wealth of knowledge, thanks!

@stephenburleson5122 4 года назад

Great video, I don't think most people even know there are any other Operating Systems besides the main 3. Thanks for all the hard work with this video.

@gabenght9316 4 года назад

And there is good reason behind that, they are absolutely pointless for most users.

@thedungeondelver 4 года назад

"A new concept called sky computing". I would like to introduce its creators to time-share systems from the 1960s...

@frequentlycynical642 4 года назад

Exactly what I thought! In reality, "the cloud" is still computers connected by cables. Once copper, now fiber. And not limited to being nearby.

@thedungeondelver 4 года назад

@@frequentlycynical642 Yes but the net result still being the same: no ownership of your software, your OS, your hardware merely a dumb terminal. I'll pass on that past, and that future.

@icantleavespaces 4 года назад

@@thedungeondelver same here. I'd rather do what I like with my software, including choosing to update, install, and modify it however I want. Online based OS sounds like a nightmare to me, and I'd rather run MS-DOS. I like BSD, but am stuck on Windows at the moment.

@mjouwbuis 4 года назад

And terminal servers, from the 1970's up to today. Think of Azure for a commercialised version.

@JD-ex7gp 4 года назад

It's like deja vu all over again. -Yogi Berra

@RedboltTech 3 года назад

I've been thinking of trying a Solaris VM for a while just to try it out. I tried OpenStep and it was a pretty cool experience. Just takes a bit to get color on the screen.

@klausb.7505 4 года назад

Ooowweee ! Flashback time! Gee thx a million !!!!

@Graeme_Lastname 4 года назад

OK, you've got the OS. Now, where do you get something that runs on it? :)

@user-zo3fv9ex8h 3 года назад

This is the question!) see Windows Mobile)

@chitlitlah 3 года назад

I tried BeOS when it was still alive. It seemed like a pretty good foundation, but there were hardly any programs so I couldn't do much on it. I'm sure Haiku has improved that aspect, but by how much?

@patemathic 3 года назад

@@chitlitlah I imagine at least Audacity, LibreOffice, GIMP, Blender, OBS, Firefox etc. are ported to Haiku. Prolly on other OSes on this list as well.

@vix_in_japan 4 года назад

This week I have been mostly using Amiga Workbench 2.05.

@jameslewis2635 4 года назад

If you're going to include Amiga OS 4.1 then you should probably include Amiga OS 3.1.4 which was released far more recently by Hyperion Entertainment than OS 4.1 which, at this point, seems to be essentially an abandoned product as far as first party support and hardware to run it on is concerned.

@KC9UDX 4 года назад

But it still runs! You can't kill it. OS3.1 was truly abandoned for many years and we kept it alive anyway.

@GraphicalRanger 3 года назад

Not interested in the Hyperion piratical manouvers with 3.1 until they stop messing about!

@jameslewis2635 3 года назад

@@GraphicalRanger I don't know how you can possibly call them piratical as they own the rights to Amiga OS up to 3.1. (as well as the rights to develop and market future Amiga OS releases). As for messing about it seems difficult to top the previous Amiga Inc who, as far as I can tell, no longer exists in a practical sense. Right now Hyperion are literally the only company supporting the original 68k machines and future Amiga OS releases. Otherwise the only other company with any rights to the Amiga trademark seems to be Cloanto who seem content to just release updated emulator packages each year.

@chrystals.4376 3 года назад

Illumos is still the better choice over Solaris, as it has people who were originally from Sun working on it, amongst other things (there’s an excellent lecture by Cantrill called Fork Yeah! that’s still on RU-vid, that discusses this more in depth). Tribblix is from my understanding the most Desktop friendly distribution of it.

@vrakula 3 года назад

RIP King Terry. The greatest programmer that has ever lived.

@iamrocketray 3 года назад

I thought he was just channeling for GOD, so he could have called it the C-BIBLE or something similar.

@13thbiosphere 3 года назад

Davis remained lucid when discussing computer-related subjects, his communication skills were significantly affected by his schizophrenia. He was controversial for his regular use of racial epithets, which he explained was his way of combating actors of psychological warfare. During his final months, he struggled with periods of homelessness and incarceration. In 2018, he was struck by a train and died at the age of 48. Investigators could not determine whether his death was suicide or accidental.

@ryanmcnamara9945 3 года назад

The OS I'm most excited about is NixOS, which is a fully declarative, functional (as in functional programming) OS. All the DevOps tools people have developed for managing Linux in the cloud is just kind of a native feature of the OS. There is no server drift, rollbacks are essentially instant, there is no such thing as dependency hell, etc. Unlike the others in this list, it has the potential to be a real staple. I would have also mentioned Fuscia from Google, which isn't finished yet, but if you're paying attention to OSs, that one would be on your radar.

@gorkskoal9315 Год назад

Functional as in Rust functional? or "functional" as in Python.

@dittikke 4 года назад

Menuet/Kollibri, BSD, Hurd, QNX... Oberon/Bluebottle? Probably nobody's heard of it outside the German-speaking world, but it's a fascinatingly odd graphical hypertext-based OS written in the Oberon programming language (something like Pascal/Modula, developed by the same man at the ETH Zürich) that did the rounds on freebie CDs in German PC magazines from the 90s/early 2000s. It looked so promising :(

@ihspan6892 4 года назад

very informative, thank you

@RCfromtheNYC 3 года назад

Great video! Thank you!

@xcoder1122 2 года назад

Microsoft didn't drop out of OS/2 because of Windows. Windows was just supposed to be a UI for DOS (that's why it couldn't boot on its own and had to started from within DOS), whereas OS/2 was supposed to be a new OS that replaces DOS. They dropped out because there was a huge controversy between IBM and Microsoft programmers, as IBM programmers were used to write well written, well documented, well structured, well planed code - and Microsoft programmers were none of that. Realizing that this isn't going to work out, Microsoft decided to develop Windows into a full blown operation system on its own to prevent that IBM pushes them out of the market with their advanced OS/2. If OS/2 wouldn't have been to horribly overpriced, maybe everyone would be using OS/2 instead of Windows today as from a technical perspective it was way better than Windows and it could run Windows and MS-DOS software, so you got a better system and could keep all your existing apps. Yet being way more expensive than Windows and not being bundled with any of the shelf PCs, Microsoft won this battle.

@hearo5de911 4 года назад

React OS (especially the latest 0.4.12 alpha) is really good. We are running this as a main OS for our Living Room with custom Linux as Dualboot. This way originally a Win95 PC and its running very good... even the Win95 up to Win 8?1 compatability is working so good on 2Gb of RAM and 1Tb Storage...

@linuxization4205 Год назад

Why would you have 2gigs of ram with 1 terabyte of storage?!?!

@ne0ne0 4 года назад

Very interesting. Thank you.

@marios.2975 4 года назад

Why was there no mention of FreeBSD ?? It is an awesome OS, and the Posix / Unix user-space applications on Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD's code. It has some OSes that derivate from it with specialized on Desktop use, NAS use, etc. Or generally the other BSD's that are out there like NetBSD and OpenBSD. Those deserve to be mentionend on such a high quality OS video. Cheers :-)

@AnnoyedArt1256 3 года назад

also the switch's os is based on freebsd

@10MARC 4 года назад

Clever stuff, Dan! Maybe I will try out one of those "Amiga" things one day... 😉

@ScottCalkins 4 года назад

Won't your Sinclair fanbase get upset?

@twofour8127 4 года назад

I'd never have guessed this guy was a radio presenter after listening to his voice...Born for local radio! Poptastic!

@pikachu2860 4 года назад

he should go on the Fun Radio station in paris ! hahahahahahahaha

@davidspencer7254 4 года назад

Radio Norwich

@AlejandroGuerrero 4 года назад

Wow man. Excellent report. Cheers from Spain

@randomactsofvideos313 Год назад

Very awesome explanation of OSes and how they have continued ...

@wolfgangkrebl3056 4 года назад

I stay with my alltime favourite: ms dos 6.22 ! The essential files fit on one 1.44 mb diskette and it runs all my most loved games. ,👍😀

@stephanebessette6471 4 года назад

Loved OS/2 (2.? and Warp). This was before the internet was a thing. Instead we had BBS (Bulletin Board System), where you'd use your phone line to dial into a server to chat and download files. Couldn't believe how much more powerful my computer was when running OS/2 instead of Windows (3.0 or 3.1, I forget which). With OS/2 I could play a game while at the same time downloading something. In contrast, attempting to use Notepad under Windows resulted in the connection dropping out. It's a shame it did not become the mainstream OS.

@Thomas_P_aus_M 4 года назад

Yes, I remember too. The BBS (RA = remote access) and FIDO NET (mailer frontdoor) ... in a DOS-Box. With 2 telephone lines my 386 was running 2 DOS boxes under OS/2 warp 3 (configured without the WPS. Running programs with GUI was still possible, starting them from a CMD shell.) Btw the WPS in warp3 has often crashed - so that mouse click and keystroke was not possible anymore. Somebody has programmed a third party tool named shutup. This worked, because it has recognized the keys of a joystick and killed (restarted?) the hanging WPS process. :-) Can not remember anymore if the bug was still in warp 4. I have lost my warp 4 CD. :-(

@zf4hp24 3 года назад

Well, Windows *NT* 3.1 came on the scene shortly after OS/2 and just creamed it in the marketplace. We were using OS/2 on 486 servers for performance and somebody had the gall to come in a boot up an NT CD-ROM. That's all it took, and we weren't even actively looking for an alternative to OS/2. And lest you think I'm dumping on IBM, I can proudly say I was raised on their MVS and VM "big iron" OSes. Gerstener was their downfall. "Cookie Monster".

@ex-squid3575 4 года назад

Thank you for your list,i will try 2 &3

@namesalvaje 4 года назад

Great video! I've never heard of the majority of those O/S

@charlesbaldo 4 года назад

I heard of Terry Davis and Temple OS back in the day. Did not think it was still around or heard of what happened to Terry RIP hope you got the reward you were seeking

@thechosenone8808 4 года назад

they got rid of him from the /g/ sticky :(

@artemf8835 4 года назад

Solaris is not UNIX-based. It is UNIX.

@tobiasstamenkovic9628 4 года назад

System V is "classic UNIX" actually, everything else just adheres to the POSIX standard. Solaris was SUN's take on UNIX for their Spark stations.

@michaelsommers2356 4 года назад

@@tobiasstamenkovic9628 Version 7 is true classic Unix.

@nate32396 4 года назад

Tobias Stamenkovic it’s still certified UNIX

@user-cr3pj2nr4e 4 года назад

Open solaris (open indiana) is UNIX-alike OS

@JamesThompson-oz8kh 4 года назад

Interestingly MacOS is a true Unix system (not Unix like) as well.

@billblack7840 Год назад

I remember running BeOS on a Thinkpad I had way back when. I was really just starting to learn modern computers at the time. I had a blast with Be.

@davidpiper3652 4 года назад

I used to use Solaris on SPARC hardware to VNC into telephone switches, long time ago . And RISC on a BBC micro. I still have, in it's box with all the disks and instructions, an Atari STE1040.

@KarLKoX 4 года назад

MenuetOS : fast (thanks to the asm language), usuable and responsive !

@Waccoon 4 года назад

I was surprised how sluggish it is, actually. Apparently it doesn't offer much in the way of hardware acceleration, so written in assembler or not, you won't get much responsiveness out of it.

@anton7354 4 года назад

writing in asm for modern ISAs is not very smart to say the least

@thbenda 4 года назад

asm is ok. very low level to program something nowadays, but it is ok... in many usecases.

@anton7354 4 года назад

@@thbenda i'm sorry but only in a very few usecases. basically those are when you have an HW the compiler does not know about. otherwise just fix your algorithm(s). and - considering the claim of the TS - writing the whole OS in asm is just insane from the maintenance standpoint alone.

@thbenda 4 года назад

@Anton Some people have a different perspective and do things as they need or as they can do it or as theirs customers need. So consider the context before any judgment. For my own point of view, I prefer using C++ to code any related drivers, sockets or systems related tasks. And you can always get asm from C++ compiled code in order to run on a system targeted.

@76rjackson 4 года назад

I looooovvvveeeddd my Amiga 500! First computer I ever bought. Sold it for 4 times what I paid for it.

@wolfgangricklefs2938 4 года назад

My first computer was a CPC 464. I still own an Amiga 1200.

@juniorr2646 3 года назад

😲wooaa

@pushingtechnologytothelimi7519 4 года назад

This video is interesting. I have downloaded one of the operating systems to try that you have on your list. Thank you for providing the links to the sites it made life easier. Have you done anything with Linux PC router os? I have tried IPcop and smoothwall to block ads and other things from downloading to my network. They worked for awhile but slowly over time they became useless. When they did work it made the internet faster and more reliable.

@KevBarnes 4 года назад

I enjoyed this, many thanks!

@ethanreeves6513 4 года назад

Bypass imac password

@Yggdrasil42 4 года назад

I would've liked to hear about Plan 9. The architecture has always appealed to me.

@blackflagqwerty 4 года назад

Be Os was awesome Pre Windows XP!

@robertbilling6266 4 года назад

Very interesting. I was one of Martin Richards' students when he was developing Tripos in Cambridge in the 70s.

@hognetitlestad382 4 года назад

Very cool. As founder of Friend OS, I always wanted to put Amiga OS, AROS, MorphOS and Friend OS in a "family" with Tripos - to create a domain for this way of thinking about operating systems. Hope we get that one day.

@zombieman81 Год назад

I actually bought a physical copy of BeOS 4.5 back in the day, and a digital download of 5.0... I did play with the widely leaked 5.1 "Dano" beta that appeared a while after Be Inc stopped trading... Nice OS I thought and really nice SDK documentation... Heavy focus on being a "real time" media rich OS the way the Amiga OS was designed and highly modular in nature... This video makes me want to play with Haiku OS... again...

@GeoNeilUK 4 года назад

Terry Davis, a very interesting man with a very tragic story.

@jjuarez83 4 года назад

His videos were very interesting. It was sad watching him go on his racist rants yet you knew there was some work of genius going on inside his schizophrenia diseased head when he would go into details about his OS. The fact that he wrote his own version of C to write the OS shows you had to be insane.

@TeagueChrystie 4 года назад

@@jjuarez83 said: "...he wrote his own version of C to write the OS..." O_O Damn.

@jjuarez83 4 года назад

@@TeagueChrystie Yes, he called it HolyC, a variant of C written in C/C++ is my understanding. I think he also wrote the compile from scratch in assembly.

@jonathanrealman8415 4 года назад

Yes the tragic run in with the illuminating high melanin intelligence agencies individuals.

@michaelberna987 4 года назад

@@jonathanrealman8415 Men in Black?

@leebumble 4 года назад

Fascinating, thanks for sharing sir. TempleOS was especially interesting, gonna have to take a closer look at that one out of curiosity more that anything.

@edwinrosales6322 11 месяцев назад

Great video, I had no idea about Illumos, very cool!

@ashishpankhania 4 года назад

Nice piece of information. Would love if you get similar video on the alternative softwares for MSOFFICE etc

@SabretoothBarnacle 4 года назад

Well there goes the rest of my afternoon downloading and trying out some of these😉

@jaykoerner 4 года назад

Well he missed the "big" ones-BDS, chromiumOS, and technically Android x86, all of which are more popular then anything on this video, not that any of these are really common os's

@brodriguez11000 4 года назад

Virtualization makes it easy to try a lot of these without a lot of pain.

@dantetehderp4896 4 года назад

@@jaykoerner chromium and Android x86 are both linux based so he only really missed bsd based operating systems

@jaykoerner 4 года назад

@@dantetehderp4896 no, they just use the Linux kernel(the Linux kernel mis developed separately from the rest), the rest of the is entirely different, and if your gonna say that's a problem then you forget some of the ones he showed also use the Linux kernel, so your point?

@marcoraap733 4 года назад

@@jaykoerner chromiumOS is a Linux dist as well as Android.

@jochannan7379 3 года назад

Haiku sure has come a long way. However, today, the interface feels like frozen in time. Sure, in 2000, the BeOS interface was bleeding edge. Today, Haiku is missing many features you would expect from a modern interface. For instance, its application menu feels pretty dated. One flat listing of programmes, extending the edge of the screen, no integration of online services, such as Nextcloud, no building calendar, contacts, an extremely basic mail client. I'd love to use Haiku for real, but it is just missing too much that I rely on (the most important piece being 1. a decent web browser and 2 a nextcloud client or usable webdav integration.

@pixelotix 2 года назад

I don’t mind the retro feel of Haiku, in fact I find it’s OS9 look and more importantly, speed, a feature. However, a modern browser is a huge oversight. Most of the things you state could be covered by a browser. The other huge oversight in 2021 with Haiku is lack of multiple monitor support. That’s just an extremely common workflow now.

@gorkskoal9315 Год назад

@@pixelotix lets start with mainstream apps, or the lack of. And games, which even BeOS BeAllLike: who games. A lot of people actually.

@pixelotix Год назад

@@gorkskoal9315 There's no app more mainstream than a webkit browser.

@user-yr1uq1qe6y 4 года назад

Nice Chap: Produces excellent overview of alternate operating systems enriching my life. My American ears: ...amigur....amiguR.......amiGUR!

@mitchelvalentino1569 4 года назад

Haiku is great! illumos-based operating systems like OpenIndiana are also fantastic. Redox is a newer OS, but it’s developing fast and has brilliant devs.

@yjk_music 4 года назад

5:47 I didn’t know that E14 was renamed from Acorn.

@CubicleNate 4 года назад

I learned that today too.

@lister_of_smeg6545 4 года назад

Not the same Element 14. The Element 14 that Acorn became was bought and absorbed by Broadcom back in 2000. It has no relation to the Farnell brand.

@AnesuC 4 года назад

My side project (which is an OS) is coming out on the 20th (well Beta 2 which would be the first usable and installable version). Just a shameless plug, but hey it's relevant haha. Got this video as a notification so clearly RU-vid knows I'm into this haha