12 Month review of the Honda CB750 Hornet

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this has taken me ages to get round to uploading. So apologies.
Here I have my own Honda Hornet 750 after riding it for the
Past 12 months. Some highs , some lows , the great the good and
The damn right ugly frustration of owning this particular model.
I’m talking personally about this bike and I’m not reading off a script
A manufacturer or another influencer has been given.
When the bike is being ridden in spirited way it’s great. Fast enough, fun, responsive and flickable
When you are riding it normally wanting to ease the throttle on from being off the gas the throttle response is
Somewhat early 2000’s of a job. Back then software engineers were trying to write in software to mimic the
Mechanical feel of a cable and carburettor
The majority of bikes from manufacturers have cracked this and produce silky smooth throttle actuation
But Honda engineers have used a throwback of talent in their engineering to write the software for this model.
Probably conceived after an all nighter sniffing cherry blossom and holding each others hand
And much like the British Post office Honda refuse to contemplate consumers of their product have a point and are right in highlighting there is such a problem.
Rant over.
In this video we nearly get taken out by a typical driver not looking at what’s approaching, come across a Shetland pony out for a stroll and I smash the unsmashable drone into a tree. And not caught on camera the carnage of searching and finding the said drone, fitting new props, but then forgetting id left my GoPro On a tripod at the side of the road still recording me setting off, a total of 35 minutes that camera and tripod was sat there until I realised my stupidity. Came back and it was still there. Another reason why it’s great where we live in the north, people are friendly and don’t rob each other………as much..
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If you’re interested in the end can for your Honda or any make of bike call Fuel exhausts in Kendal and tell them I sent you. That’s not because I get anything for it, it’s because I’ve bought and continue to buy their products. They sound great and they look good too.
I’ve put my small baffle back in the exhaust but either in or out they sound fantastic.

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@arryt3912 13 дней назад

The Missenden Flyer reviewed this bike too. He found it a bit snatchy too. If you drop the engine braking down to minimum, in the user mode, he thinks that helps. I own the same bike, and wondered what the hell am I doing wrong, at slower speeds! I've been riding for 36 years, and owned dozens of bikes. I do like the Hornet 750 but I almost feel like a novice, riding it , as it's so unpredictable, at slower speeds. I appreciate your video, and that you have verified the fault I know is there. Honda won't do anything about it unfortunately. Cheers

@captainpugwashrides3799 13 дней назад

Frustrating isn’t it. Would be an amazing bike if it was sorted. Like I’ve said there isn’t one person that doesn’t say it has a snatchy throttle.

@joaomarquesfaisca2510 14 дней назад

Regarding the throttle what works for me is to ride one gear up, the bike has so much torque to so little weight that it just pulls no matter what so being one gear above won't make a difference, it significantly improved my confidence in the twisties since the snatchy throttle almost caused me some serious trouble while leaning. To each his own, this bike has some serious pull and I'm happy with it, cheers.

@captainpugwashrides3799 14 дней назад

I agree with the one gear up. It makes a difference when slow manoeuvring. But it shouldn’t be like that. It should be solvable by Honda.

@redlion001 2 месяца назад

I had this exact same bike. It is a lovely bike in so many ways and I loved the power, sound, handling, comfort, price and looks (to a point). I had real issues with the throttle and the hunting at slower speeds. It caught me out a few times and made me pensive and nervous and so I rode the bike badly. I gave it about 2000 miles and admitted defeat and changed the bike. I ABSOLUTELY concur with your views. This bike is great if you always want to make progress but, sadly, deeply flawed when wanting to be a bit more relaxed in your riding. Some said "ride it in rain mode": tamed it a bit but I don't like having to ride around a problem, the bike should be spot on out of the box.

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

Well said that man.

@johnflavin1602 Месяц назад

@@redlion001 What bike did you change to?

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

I haven’t. I still have it. I use it primarily for going to and from work. But I also use it for advanced training. At the weekend I use my ktm 890 adventure R. I’m currently bringing back to life my Honda monkey bike.

@redlion001 Месяц назад

@@johnflavin1602I’ve got a CB500. A versatile and confidence inspiring bike. I do miss the awesome power of the hornet 750 but not that throttle. I’m only a so-so motorcyclist and that was a bit too much

@thebrowns5337 День назад

Making a mental note not to buy one of Robins stickers now. I might have a word with Mrs Getts, tell her to sort Robing out. He used to be such a nice boy.

@user-hk8do8lf5z Месяц назад

Enjoyed this video. Spot on with the throttle, so much I sold it last week, lost me shirt on it though couldn't live with it. You mention the seat being comfortable I didn't think so but we are all different..

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

I must have more padding. I do like the bike. But it really shows how crap that throttle is when you have other bikes to immediately compare it to. This week for instance I enjoyed it because I haven’t had my ktm out. For me though this bike is just a commuting tool.

@timparker9235 Месяц назад

for the snatchy throttle, I had the same on my Z650RS (though the dealer told me I was imagining things) and after research found I had two options if I didn't want to go down the remap route, namely a booster plug or G2 throttle tamer. for those who don't know, the booster plug at £100+ fools the ECU into thinking its many degrees colder outside temperature than it actually is and the ECU therefore adds in 6% more fuel - apparently this works. I however went for the G2 throttle tamer, easy to install and you can see the difference in the throttle assembly whereby the route for the cable is much more linear and smooth giving you smoother throttle at 0-5% - worked for me immediately and at £82 worth the money. Why manufacturers cant just fit this as standard is beyond me - its just a different shaped cable route on the throttle tube, that's it.

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

I’ll have a look thanks for that

@osirisqwe9589 Месяц назад

Hornet has throttle by wire, no cable, as far I know

@erkutgurun Месяц назад

Great video, great review (sorry for your poor drone). I'm getting a Hornet tomorrow hopefully. Can't decide between the white and yellow. Here in Turkey the grey one is not offered. And the black is too black. I'll probably put some handlebar risers since I've been riding enduros till now. I like the straight sitting position. And of course some soft cases, heated grips, perhaps a quickshifter. We'll see. Take care.

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

Definitely recommend the heated grips that Honda do. Brilliant add on. Quick shifter is great too. If I’d have a choice again I’d get the yellow. Lovely colour choice. I also bought a set of engine bars to protect the bike if I had a spill. Looks great. Just a bit of a pig to fit. There’s a lot of after market products now for the hornet. A company called pyramid plastics in the uk do some good products for the bike.

@erkutgurun Месяц назад

@@captainpugwashrides3799 all right thanks so much for all the information brother

@thebrowns5337 День назад

Would you're aftermarket exhaust accentuate the twitchiness of the throttle just a little more? Not trying to justify the twitch, but I can't see the exhaust helping either and even when exhaust cans can get away with no tuning, with the ECU picking up any mild change, I think most bikes would still benefit from a rolling road tune/map when mods like that are made. Would probably be able to programme out some twitchiness.

@captainpugwashrides3799 День назад

@j9fo Месяц назад

I rode one of these recently and tried in vain to ride it smoothly at slow speeds. Coming out of a bumpy surfaced roundabout and gassing it caused a disconcerting wobble at the back at one point. Apart from that I enjoyed the test ride!

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

A good value bike yes. But would be even a better bike and winner if they sorted out the throttle

@johnflavin1602 День назад

@@j9fo Yes, on bumpy roads at slow speeds is when the snatchiness is at its worst.

@Trevster65 Месяц назад

I’ve had the Suzuki 8s for just over a year, not as powerful as the Honda but no snatchy throttle or hunting which makes riding predictable and fun. I did test ride the hornet but the 8s fit me better as I’m 6ft and the hornet felt just a bit small for me. Great bike though.

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

Yeah the hornet is on the small size probably for the assumption that everyone is 5’2” and living in Asia. Cheap though. Compared to the rivals. Suzuki Yamaha triumph and ktm. Would I recommend it ? If budget is a real issue yes. If it’s not there are others out there that may suit you better. I m sitting on the fence here because I made my choice. If Honda would alter an alternative to the throttle it would definitely be better for that particular model

@billbellart Месяц назад

Had mine for a couple of weeks and lovin it apart from the throttle thingy, what's that about. Great video very enjoyable, thanks for the effort you put into it.

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

You will love the bike bill. Despite me having a whinge about the throttle the bike is really good. Very good acceleration for its size. And yes you do get used to it in a way. It can still catch you out so you need to finesse the rotation of the throttle carefully. But if you’re in a hurry it’s great. Glad you enjoyed the video.

@michaelhitchmough6082 2 месяца назад

I purchased the Honda cb750 Hornet before I passed my test and was a bit worried because I couldn’t test ride it, end up passing my tests on mine and it is a great little bike and can’t fault it so when I was watching this RU-vid video and the guy is saying about a problem with it and Honda now about it I was scratching my head thinking there’s a problem with reliability or something and then we got to “his problem “ I realised the problem was the guy doing the video he should of bought a royal Enfield 😂😂😂

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

Which guy should buy a royal Enfield ?

@sweetestsunny1849 18 дней назад

I bought one today, beacause it's a smaller Bike but with a bigger Engine. Most Bikes with the same sized Engine are too high for my size. So i'm very happy that it's this small. ;) Where did you buy your tank pads?

@captainpugwashrides3799 17 дней назад

I bought them from mc hub darwen near Blackburn. They are Oxford products so any Oxford retailer will have them. The side ones come as a pair and to match I bought the centre one that sits in front of your crutch. Not too expensive either

@johnflavin1602 Месяц назад

Have the same issue but got used to it now as it’s my only bike. I do remember trying to avoid potholes in town while moving very slowly and it kept surging and directing me into the bloody potholes instead of away from them! Since then I have become used to it but still agree that it’s an issue I wouldn’t have expected from Honda. Blaming emission controls is easy but how come the GSX8S doesn’t have the same issue?

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

I know what you mean. And if you test the transalp same engine and it’s perfectly fine. I spoke to my local Honda dealer the other week about it. Because they don’t ride them to the extent an owner does he sees no issues. Funny how it’s reported by just about everyone though.

@thebrowns5337 День назад

People blame 'emission controls' for everything as they know many people can't see the facts properly due to anger. Moto Bob always says the new version of any bike is 'heavier due to emissions controls'... even though many times he has said that the new model has amazingly shed 2-3kg (he doesn't check and knows people love this BS). Same with BHP figures on many bikes. Manufactruers and influencers use 'emission controls' like the rag tops and politicians use race... an easy stick to beat people with even if totally unjustified, lazy, incompetent and just not true.

@orionswitness Месяц назад

Versys 650 selecting ..traction control 2 …whilst in cities eliminates snatch throttle , but squeezing the throttle and holding it in each squeezed position works also in any traction mode.

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

No worries I’ll buy a Suzuki then

@johndavy8801 2 месяца назад

It sounds like it needs a throttle map upgrade to cure the snatching,sadly I don’t think Honda will address this issue until an updated bike comes out in a couple of years time. Only option would be to find a performance bike shop that might be able to re-flash the current fuel mapping, but obviously this will cost something. As you said earlier Captain in your video the Transalp clearly has a softer mapping for some light off-road action. Hope to see you testing the cb1000 hornet when it appears.

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

Completely agree. If only Honda would just alter some zero and ones then they’d have a brilliant bike

@whatsgoingon71 15 дней назад

19:12 The NC 750 does not have the same engine. 😂

@captainpugwashrides3799 15 дней назад

I know it has a Ducati engine. 🦧

@kevindarkstar Месяц назад

If the sole purpose of the bike was commuting and not much else an NC750S or X would have fit the bill, especially not having to use the tank bag and the exceptional fuel efficiency 😊

@captainpugwashrides3799 Месяц назад

If I was wanting any of my bikes for one thing I would choose differently for all. I choose to use the hornet as its cheap to buy , cheap to run and has plenty of power and at times it’s fun too. If I was solely after a commuter I’d get a car so I don’t get wet. It also takes away the mileage from my ktm and bmw 1000 rr

@brianlongimanus9436 2 месяца назад

Great vid mate. See you at the ABR.

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

Great seeing you over the weekend Brian. Keep it real and be honest. Your doing great pal. Ignore the negativity and concentrate on you.

@brianlongimanus9436 2 месяца назад

@@captainpugwashrides3799 the same to you. Be as kind to yourself as you are to others. I will message you so you have my number. Take car mate.

@dieselc68 3 месяца назад

oooohh......new stickers!

@user-yi3ox8wy4k 2 месяца назад

Emissions business, isnt it? I tried the CB650F when it came out in 2014 and that was buttery smooth. Different bike/engine, I know. However, the Duc Scrambler that cane out the year after the CB was very snatchy. Dealers usuàlly wont entertain agreeing that these are faults-by-design.

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

You might have a point there. But I was informed there are flaps that open and shut to help emissions . However I understood that flaps work when cold to aid the emissions. If this is correct the issue still is a mystery. I personally believe it’s a software issue and the percentage of throttle applied isn’t linear, it’s all or nothing. Instead of 10% 12 % 14% it’s 10% 20% 30%.

@thebrowns5337 День назад

It's not emmisions business... all new bikes (and other vehicles) have to comply with the same regs (not just to save the environment but to one day reduce cancer numbers etc - particle pollution crosses any barrier within the human body and causes chronic inflamation at best, healthcare is bloomin expensive) and yet some bikes (vehicles) drive so much better (smoother, faster, quieter... whatever) than others. Some manufacturers can do it some can't. Some manage it with one 750cc engine in their range but not another. Blaming emissions controlas shows a complete lack of not just knowledge but imagination and provides manufacturers an easy out.

@user-yi3ox8wy4k День назад

@@thebrowns5337 I agree, you've certainly demonstrated having both a complete lack of knowledge and any wisdom around the subject. Perhaps, there's a future for you in Brussels, as a VW liason officer, or such like? As for cancer and environmental influences...let's see the robust studies linking motocycles to that. Better worry more about lifestyle and food and pharma. That's not to dismiss all emmissions goals, however most of EURO[X] stuff is busywork for technocrats and market protection or market decimation (there's a curve).

@dieselc68 3 месяца назад

Good review Andy. Shame about that throttle, would expect better from Honda. As for your drone piloting its very......wooden.

@captainpugwashrides3799 3 месяца назад

I’m branching out

@GameOverZaza 2 месяца назад

Firstly thank you for the honest review. I'm 29yo and I got this as my first bike. About the throttle, many call it snatchy and twitchy, I personally love that explosion, it just wants to go. May I ask if you have noticed any wobble or twitchiness when going 160+ kph? I feel like the bike just loses a lot of front downforce and the front tyre starts wobbling a little. Like an annoying oscillation

@captainpugwashrides3799 2 месяца назад

No I’ve not noticed any wobble but I only go to 110 kph on uk roads. If I was on a private road doing 160 + I suggest it’s not the best aerodynamic bike around and your neck muscles would be somewhat punished. You’re right about the throttle being explosive but that’s great when you want to exploit it but tedious when you want a relaxed control. It becomes much more apparent if you have other bikes that don’t do that. It stands out more. I do love the bike just has a minor flaw that needs addressing. Thanks for the feedback

@janmegatron 28 дней назад

How tall are you ? Im looking at this bike but im not sure , im 185cm 6'1" ... To be honest all bikes in this category feels the same to me

@captainpugwashrides3799 28 дней назад

@janmegatron yeah. I think you will struggle with the compaction of this bike being that you’re so tall. It seems that Honda and some other manufacturers make their bikes small because their big market are Asia and not so much Europe. Try the bike for size before committing and also try other too. The MT 09 or 07 are a good competitor. The Suzuki also has some rave reviews too. But certainly take one out or at least sit on the bike. If you have a larger budget then the ktm 990 duke is a cool bike. There are deals to be had on that range despite them not advertising it. To answer your question I’m 5’10” and it’s cramped for me. But it’s surprisingly comfortable on long journeys. Hope this helps

@GameOverZaza 28 дней назад

@@janmegatron I am 174cm and I can flat foot it with my riding boots. Definitely test ride it and check the full tuck-in position. You might be a little uncomfortable if you are very tall. My buddy is 190 and it's not for him. That being said if you are not going full send it has a nice almost upright position.

@janmegatron 28 дней назад

@@captainpugwashrides3799 thx ! The bikes that you mentioned are to powerful for me. The honda is also powerful but i like the rider modes. Im looking for mid range naked bike (mt07, trident660 cb750..) and they are all made for humans up to 180cm :)