@@RibeiroGames12grindcore takes more inspo from death metal fused with hxc punk than thrash. Not that thrash influence ISNT there but its certainly not at the forefront of the genre.
@@blakkxsheep5912 yes they pioneered ithe aesthetic and such but i always thought they are just hardcore "nyhc" to be exact hearing their tracks is far from beatdown like xibalba's stuff
@@blakkxsheep5912 From what album from madball are you referring to? The earliest ones I've heard is from "set it off" I can say they're far from beatdown more like the typical "NYHC" I can agree they're one of the pioneers of beatdown hardcore but bulldoze, well that band for sure is one of the first ones.
@@junkyard_productions3894emotional hardcore came straight out of the hc scene. it was mostly ppl who were part of hc bands (for example ian mackaye) not liking the violence of hc and opting for a softer more emotional sound. and screamo is an offshoot of emocore
@@batviolence your missing everything I’m saying also scramz the word comes from screamo/jazz so tbh I don’t care about the spelling. Im saying scramz/screamo is lowkey a subgenre of emo hc
