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12V 50A 600W power supply - what's inside 

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Today let's make a teardown of a cheap 12V 50A 600W switching power supply module from eBay from China. A nice design, but some hidden surprises like fake or recycled components, and power transistors poorly mounted on the heatsink.
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@K-Riz314
@K-Riz314 3 года назад
I subscribe to dozens of electronics channels and none other give me remotely as much joy to watch as yours. I absolutely adore your style. You are one of a kind and can make even the most mundane of items exciting to watch. Your passion for what you do is very clear and quite contagious. Much respect!
@jasonr9157
@jasonr9157 3 года назад
i looked you up to see some new electronics channels i might have missed and only found 3 in your subscriptions sadly
@PF-gi9vv
@PF-gi9vv 3 года назад
Its also like waiting for the next episode on your favorite tv program :)
@ikehsamuelifeanyi4925
@ikehsamuelifeanyi4925 3 года назад
I always enjoy his videos.
@juperrr
@juperrr Год назад
I think it is the fact that he takes the time to explain component by component how the device works.I also enjoy it and I think he is the only online resource I have found doing this. Good for him and for us :)
@eldontyrellcorp
@eldontyrellcorp 3 года назад
I was missing this "you have to be kidding me guys" :)
@mareksvrcina5279
@mareksvrcina5279 3 года назад
I actually think it was there... As always ;)
@dodge1629
@dodge1629 3 года назад
10:48 There you go ! and here 11:30 and here: 12:57 and here 13:07
@gumpi5
@gumpi5 3 года назад
Listen at 07:00 😂
@MegaSunRise3
@MegaSunRise3 3 года назад
A wax filled capacitor... the chinese never disappoint 😂 Would've been nice to see the power supply working since paraffin starts melting at 50C 😀
@Jakob6174
@Jakob6174 3 года назад
There are a lot more waxes than paraffin, melting at higher temperatures too
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 3 года назад
Any chinese device with Nippon Chemi-Con, Nichicon, or Rubicon sleeved capacitors in it is automatically suspicious. Automatically think it was assembled in some slave labor camp or something.
@erikas6874
@erikas6874 3 года назад
It's also a good insulator. Capacitors don't get hot btw.
@franzliszt8576
@franzliszt8576 3 года назад
@@erikas6874 they get
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 года назад
@@erikas6874 If their ESR (equivalent series resistance) is low, they shouldn’t get hot. Cheap electrolytic capacitors however tend to lose/leak the electrolyte over time causing the ESR to increase which will warm them up which will accelerate the process. Sometimes leading to a catastrophic failure but most of the time just a silent death.
@lakiza55
@lakiza55 3 года назад
Those capacitors are reaching syuper dodgy levels that shouldn't even be possible.
@albertoallegri4202
@albertoallegri4202 3 года назад
If would ever exist a dragon ball scouter for the level of dodgynes, those capacitors will probably max out the reading🤣
@Donphan1
@Donphan1 3 года назад
@@albertoallegri4202 They are over 9000!
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 года назад
Definitely not real chemicon caps. They're fake. They tested ok though.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 года назад
@@simontay4851 They may have been some sort of quality Japanese capacitor, before somebody ripped them out of a board with a pair of channel locks and reskined them to half-ass cover that up.
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 года назад
@@Broken_Yugo both of them are named brand ones (K & Y)... however likely rather old too.
@noco-pf3vj
@noco-pf3vj 3 года назад
That "K" vent is the Rubycon vent, on the right is the NCC vent. Wow, amazing, hidden disaster.
@Pawelr98
@Pawelr98 3 года назад
Those capacitors are filled with wax the same way some car dents are filled with bondo.
@K-Riz314
@K-Riz314 3 года назад
Lol, right! That part had me in tears. One of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen and his reaction to it was solid gold.
@seanman6541
@seanman6541 3 года назад
I can already picture DiodeGoneWild saying "Even more lammmpss" as he connects the lamps to the power supply.
@app0the
@app0the 3 года назад
The planet is shaking... EVEN MORE LAMPS!! Bloody hell, it's brighter than the sun now! EVEN MORE LAMPS!!!!
@progsam
@progsam 3 года назад
You mean: power supplyyyyyyyyee hhhh
@juperrr
@juperrr Год назад
I love it that you explain everything that is going on, on the board. Never stop doing that ! Thank you !
@BogdanSerban
@BogdanSerban 3 года назад
I think they put the nippon chemicon labels on top of the salvaged capacitor 😂
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
One of them actually is a Nippon ChemiCon, the one with the Y vent. The one with K vent used to be a Rubycon.
@Zebra_Paw
@Zebra_Paw 3 года назад
The Y is completely no name! It doesn't mean Nippon Chemi-Con, lot of brands use an Y on the top!
@semspiri789
@semspiri789 3 года назад
Oh man, your videos are so fun and relaxing. Love it!
@giopa110888
@giopa110888 3 года назад
I had "even more salt" flashbacks.
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 года назад
Me too.
@santi308
@santi308 3 года назад
15:09 me too
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 3 года назад
OMG The trouble they go through to and still obviously cheat is annoying. Thank you for yet another excellent video!
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 3 года назад
@Abstractism China and the CCP have little to do with communism imo.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 3 года назад
@Abstractism What we see here is maximizing revenue by minimizing cost. To me, this seems to have a lot more to do with capitalism than communism.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 года назад
@@andreasu.3546 yes .... china seems to have adopted the very worst of communism with none of it's advantages AND the very worst of capitalism with none of it's advantages..
@muchmore344
@muchmore344 3 года назад
I actually find it quite good/nobel that they can recycle so many components. However changing makings and hide dents is not acceptable. If they can desolder components more carefully I would not reject to the idea of buying recycled electronics
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 3 года назад
Not electrolytics, they have a very limited lifespan especially in modern electronics and should only be used once unless you do very thorough testing which they most likely don't.
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 года назад
For solid-state stuff (transistors, diodes, ICs) it's not a bad idea as long as they are honest about it and test them. Electrolytic caps are a bit questionable though as they are often the first thing to fail anyway and putting in ones where you have no idea how long they have been in use is not a great idea. I bought a chinese ZVS driver once, and they specifically said it had used transistors. It worked perfectly until I killed it because I was stupid. Not the transistor's fault.
@muchmore344
@muchmore344 3 года назад
@@westelaudio943 well yes , but I want to see more recycling. and to me at least, it is no big deal replacing them. but I get it most people don't/can't
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 года назад
@@muchmore344 to recycle them - it takes labor cost - most components are cheaper not to be salvaged... or it takes slave level of pay. At home I salvage what I can (as I don't pay salary to myself for hobby/fun stuff) but it makes little sense in mass production.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 года назад
I always used recycled big electrolytics... I'm well aware of their failure rate... but the price of new ones keeps bringing me back to my collection of electronic scrap.
@Mentorcase
@Mentorcase 3 года назад
Oh no you got me all excited and then the vid ended, well played sir, I await your next video.
@cocusar
@cocusar 3 года назад
I have a similar one, but it is a half bridge topology, using a TL494. What's shady about it is that the power supply of the TL494 comes from a separated winding of the transformer, and it's not regulated. What's worse is that the cooling fan is also connected there (12V fan), but that voltage goes above 18V when the PSU is loaded. You get a "load regulated fan speed", but it also drives the fan out of it specs. I also bought two of them, and one blew up as soon as I connected it. Taking it appart I found that there were a LOT of solder blobs shorting a lot of critical components. After replacing the mains bridge rectifier, the fuse, both the main capacitors and the NTC, and it came back to life. So it's good you take it appart before testing it.
@davidpolacek4902
@davidpolacek4902 3 года назад
its vfc - vax filled capacitor
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 3 года назад
14:21 LOL And, thank you for warning about potential toxic chemistry. Great video!
@BobT36
@BobT36 3 года назад
hehe does anyone else mimick his accent when tinkering with electronics or fixing things? I find myself saying "It worrrrrkksss", etc. :D Love your channel mate, I'm a complete and total electronics noob, but I still find it super interesting. Your attention to detail and thoroughness is second to none.
@ghost-wm1hw
@ghost-wm1hw 3 года назад
Love this guy. Taught me loads
@ToleSan
@ToleSan 3 года назад
Could you please explain those transformers and gate driver transformer detail soon on your next video?. How much the windings, transformer size, and inductance of it.
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 3 года назад
Hi diode thank you for the video! Where can one learn on flyback designs, 2-switch forward, etc? Love your videos and your knowledge, keep up the great content!
@TheJavaSync
@TheJavaSync 3 года назад
Go to his site, danyk.cz
@4mb127
@4mb127 3 года назад
You're doing amazing job. Thanks!
@Basement-Science
@Basement-Science 3 года назад
Damn, I wish you had powered it on before taking off the capacitors. Might have given some nice fireworks. They might measure ok at low voltage, but who knows if the insulation would hold up after that torture.
@MuhammadDaudkhanTV100
@MuhammadDaudkhanTV100 3 года назад
Really good ideas and good work
@bixy9347
@bixy9347 3 года назад
I Always enjoy your show, thanks
@kyawzin3957
@kyawzin3957 3 года назад
Others : Let's open the screws, see, and then close. DiodeGoneWild : Let's pry out some doomed capacitors. One of the most valuable channels on youtube that give info about how china industries run on their cheap products.
@randydicotti3975
@randydicotti3975 3 года назад
Interestingly, I bought that EXACT SAME SMPS last week and it has what appears to be the EXACT same layout and components, but it's 60v, 10A 600watts. It would be very interesting to send you some pictures and see how they get the different voltages and amps out of the exact same layout.
@ultrongaming1177
@ultrongaming1177 3 года назад
Always wait for your video ☺️☺️
@EasyOne
@EasyOne 3 года назад
Very well explained
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 Год назад
They use a pair of pliers to pull these capacitors off and recycle them before putting them on this board. They sightly crushed the capacitors in the process. It looks like they tried to fill in the dents with wax before rewrapping them. Strange?
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
The "K" shaped capacitor vent is Rubycon. The "Y" shaped vent is Nippon ChemiCon. I think the wax trick is because it's self levelling, when they heatshrink the new label on it, the wax re-melts to fill the voids. I'm also looking at this bridge rectifier mains side, and wondering, will it really survive 600W of power draw, entirely without heatsink? I have not seen unheatsunk rectifiers in PC PSUs which are anywhere near this powerful. I suppose it will just about work in 230V region, but what about 115V region? The total mains current is doubled, and it's carried by only two out of 4 diode elements, so each carries 4 times the current, this seems very dodgy! The thing that is most scary about PSUs i think is ultimately the magnetics, you rely on the transformer to separate you from deadly mains. I almost hope that the transformers are salvaged from something good, but they can take damage with time too. Transformers must be the by far most expensive components in the PSU to manufacture, and even more expensive to QC properly. There are cheaper, safer and more trustworthy 12V PSUs you can get for the power. Server power supplies, like from Hewlett Packard and Dell, usually 600-800W. They come from a redundant array and have a card edge connector, they're written-off or decommissioned units, sometimes they have faults in PWR_OK circuit or something of the kind. They're guaranteed not to have run more than a few years, they are taken out of the array before they are expected to possibly fail. If they're manufactured by LiteOn, then they have a fairly tolerable, temperature controlled fan, if by Delta, then they get loud. Also some get loud because the fan control circuit has died. The manufacturer isn't printed on the PSUs, but can be found by E-number UL search.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 3 года назад
The bridge rectifier is definitely not the biggest concern. Many older ATX power supplies had it with no heatsink. Some even had just 4 flimsy diodes. The fan also helps a lot. And if you run it at 115V, there's always just 1 diode voltage drop, instead of 2, besause the 115V switch turns it into a doubler. So the power dissipation of the bridge rectifier is the same for 115V and 230V.
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 года назад
600W of power draw. That's less than 3A on 235V or so with 90% efficiency. Bridge rectifier is like 15A one.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 года назад
As I understand its desirable to run rectifiers kinda hot as the forward voltage goes down (and efficiency goes up) as temperature increases.
@timmueller8447
@timmueller8447 3 года назад
This is the best video you ever made. You really made my day. Super cool and I love you "bloody hell" I am an electric engineer and I often wonder why the Chinese have a good design but totally failed to build it properly... take care and carry on making those videos 😉
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 3 года назад
Very good review video
@TheRintincola
@TheRintincola 3 года назад
Capacitors and mosfets have probably been reused by other boards !!! Great video!!
@drobotk
@drobotk 3 года назад
Are you going to draw the schematic, or is your cat going to do that for you?
@richardnanis
@richardnanis 3 года назад
Cat had enough teaching in electronics to draw the schematic itself :-)
@paolomonai9511
@paolomonai9511 3 года назад
@@richardnanis For sure, the cat is also able to test it....not only to draw the schematics!!!!
@undefinednan7096
@undefinednan7096 3 года назад
Definitely the cat
@superdau
@superdau 3 года назад
No power factor correction either (easy to tell by the voltage selector switch), which should really be there at 600W.
@HighestRank
@HighestRank 3 года назад
@ the price he pay, China get to fool you, you don’t get to fool the utility people.
@Geniusinventor
@Geniusinventor 3 года назад
I love your power supply video. Keep it up 🥰🥰🤩
@crusaderanimation6967
@crusaderanimation6967 3 года назад
I wish you will made video explaining working schematic of this and working principle of that topology !
@luich1288
@luich1288 3 года назад
Nippon chemi-con are very good capacitors but probably taken from scap (probably they aren't real nippon)
@superdau
@superdau 3 года назад
I'm sure the label is fake. The distortion and wrinkles of it are because they didn't even bother to heatshrink it properly (not that they could. the wax would run out XD ).
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
One of them is actually a Nippon, the other used to be a Rubycon. You can tell by the vent shape, both are very distinct. They just salvage random capacitors and re-label them.
@luich1288
@luich1288 3 года назад
@@SianaGearz maybe, but also other capacitors uses k vent or Y vent
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
@@luich1288 There are now, but these are ancient caps, from way back when, i don't think anyone else did Y-shape until about 10-15 years ago and the Sanyo K-shape is different from Rubycon K-shape.
@waltercomunello121
@waltercomunello121 3 года назад
unlikely. they must have skinned them before to put wax; moreover, they look different inside.
@waltercomunello121
@waltercomunello121 3 года назад
IMO those big caps were of two different manufacturers, forcefully ripped from some appliance with pliers (there's no time or money for solder irons somewhere it would seem), ripping away paths; then their outer plastic film torn away, dents filled with wax and reskinned with some other plastic film, then tossed in a generic bin of caps to be used as parts. I'm actually surprised at the fact that they didn't give completely different capacities than those declared. if we're talking about recycling electronics parts I'm all into it, but should be some basic safety or quality issues to be taken care of. I guess you get what you pay for, and I'm aware of the fact that "safety" and "quality" are things that some people give absolutely no Fs about.
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 года назад
" recycling electronics parts..." likewise, but not in 50A appliance. Caps ESR wasn't too bad, though.
@valdisblack1541
@valdisblack1541 3 года назад
Chinese PSUs are just like a cars in Soviet Union -- you should disassemble and reassemble them after the purchase to make they work finally. And don't forget to file some sharp edges! ;D
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 года назад
Yeah I got a 12V 20A a while back, same deal. Full of solder balls, big inductors and transformer had cores that rattled and buzzed, fake or recycled "Nippon Chemicon" mains filter caps, not enough thermal compound, etc. I cleaned it up and it works fine though.
@youneshamache3314
@youneshamache3314 3 года назад
with capacitors filled with wax i'll be surprised if it can deliver 50amps ! and btw great video as always can't wait for the next episode, thank you !
@Bushougoma
@Bushougoma 3 года назад
11:55 that capacitor is a Rubycon only they make caps with K shaped vents. Likely taken from used electronics and re sleeved so they could use caps from multiple manufacturers and make them look like they're the same. Geez with those huge dents in the side I'm surprised the dielectric between the plates wasn't damaged. Nothing more exciting than caps at mains voltage shorting out.
@Zebra_Paw
@Zebra_Paw 3 года назад
Those power supplies never have control circuit for the fan, they lie! Could you please tell me what are the diodes?
@richardnanis
@richardnanis 3 года назад
Great findings, Diode! Its a shame they build all these cheap power supplies with recycled used parts and even pay a lot of attention to hide the mistakes and problems. I have never seen a electrolytic Cap like this put in wax to hide bulging! They should put at least the same attention into mounting the heatsinks! :-) I am interested in seeing the proper load test for this device with 50Amps! You could use some big resistive wire or some power resistors as well together with the lamps if not enough. Please also try a modification of the output voltage which will probably be quite easy with these cheap supplies. In most cases a simple voltage devider at the TL431 will do i guess. Maybe you have to investigate some precaution for too low and too high voltage.
@MarineElectrical
@MarineElectrical 10 месяцев назад
Shame? Did you expect something else in this overconsuming world? Actually this is very good practice to recycle!
@satishkumar-gg5fm
@satishkumar-gg5fm 3 года назад
They are reaching professional Level in waxing
@HighestRank
@HighestRank 3 года назад
Wax on, wax off.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 3 года назад
"50" amps, sure. The coil windings and component styles give it all away. That and that it only had "RoHS" as a marking... but the recycling definitely is green.
@PF-gi9vv
@PF-gi9vv 3 года назад
I'm guessing 30 amps max, anyone else? time will tell.
@DrakenFireen
@DrakenFireen 3 года назад
i gotten a few of similar power supplies, and yes ALL those parts are recycled, those capacitor are recycled from returned or failed units were they clean em up and re wrap the skin on em, plus all those parts are off the shelf components you can get em in bulk for under 5$, its not surprising that parts look similar or slightly off cause there grabbed from a bucket in a factory. i work for an electronic company and we find these trash parts "new" from china but there just salvaged from rejected parts. also those boards you can get for 1$ at PCB factories there a common board that you can get as you can use that board in that video for 12v 20amp 220watt to 600Watt as you then need a bigger board to add more Moffsets and 2 more rows of capacitors. However this is the first time i seen the wax fill, as most would use pliers to press em back into shape as you peel the skin off the cylinder has tool marks and rust spots from old tools and there metals touching the bare tin casing. Anyways good video, love seeing someone looking into these power supplies since there are soo many of em and there getting harder to find quality ones.
@francoisdastardly4405
@francoisdastardly4405 3 года назад
Very good video. Thanks !
@qazmatron
@qazmatron 3 года назад
Another cheat: With only one silicone pad, the transistors on the mains side capacitively inject current at 95kHz into the grounded chassis. The switchers I worked on in 1984 had two sil-pads with foil in-between (actually assembled as one piece). The foil in-between was connected to neutral (or one of the DC rails -- I forget which), to keep the 95kHz coupled current to the primary side. (The neutral (or hot if hot & neutral are swapped) does not inject much current into the chassis because it is only 50 or 60Hz plus harmonics. Any higher frequencies on the mains are coming in from outside.)
@TzOk
@TzOk 3 года назад
It is very similar to the Ender 3 PSU, and it has the same text about the fan.... but that one is a half-bridge topology, with KA7500 control chip.
@rahmanaridho
@rahmanaridho 3 года назад
The wax on the capacitor is not only fill the dent but also being use for making it heavier, the same thing as sand inside the 18650 li ion battery
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
There isn't enough wax there to make a real difference in weight. It's just a very thin layer. Wax is less than 1g per cubic cm, sand is like double that of wax.
@rahmanaridho
@rahmanaridho 3 года назад
@@SianaGearz oh, okay. Thanks for the knowledge
@Georgy-fg3bg
@Georgy-fg3bg 3 года назад
RoHS and CE certification on the label of course. However, in the case of products from China, this means Risk of Huge Scam, or also Risk of Horible Shit. Chinese Electrocution.
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 3 года назад
Haha😂😂
@paolomonai9511
@paolomonai9511 3 года назад
!&😄😄😄 right!!These are the real acronyms meaning...you made my day!!!!
@keithking1985
@keithking1985 3 года назад
could you do a video explaining two switch forward? or do you have one already? I remember the capacitor with both legs in the same hole. well spotted..
@PCbolt17
@PCbolt17 3 года назад
15:08 eeeevaannn morrr... Laaammmpppp.......
@radeksvozil8109
@radeksvozil8109 3 года назад
I have exact same power suply on my 3d printer! Great video! CZ: Mám ho už od roku 2018 a jede každej den úplně bez problémů.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 3 года назад
Asi není zatíženej na plno, nebo jen krátce :)
@DIYwithBatteries
@DIYwithBatteries 3 года назад
It was Easy to Open but hard to fix it.
@piconano
@piconano 3 года назад
Considering they are made using child labor, the kids did a pretty good job!
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 3 года назад
That clamp bar arrangement isn't horrible. It tends to apply force more evenly than a screw through the package hole.
@satishkumar-gg5fm
@satishkumar-gg5fm 3 года назад
Great sir 👍 Plz Make video about your temperature metar..
@Asraful_x
@Asraful_x 3 года назад
Haha... So much 🤣 funny 🤣... Waiting for next part
@gordonwedman3179
@gordonwedman3179 3 года назад
Someone needs to tell the salvage crew to remove the solder before pulling off the capacitors with pliers.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 года назад
Amazing how much time and effort they put into "recycling" components in a way that's deceptive. I mean, I'm all for recycling, but c'mon.... little honesty would be nice. They're obviously trying to save every penny while making these things, which is why them using thermal pads AND thermal compound is really confusing. lol
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 года назад
Yeah, I don't mind used parts, if they're honest about it and don't go the trouble and additional abuse to the parts trying to dress them up in ways that fool nobody. Like for fucks sake just sell me pulled chips instead of dunking them in a solder pot, banging them around, and calling then new with pics of new chips in the listing.
@Delali
@Delali 3 года назад
11:30 What's this! Bloody Hell....hahahah
@akhilesh7313
@akhilesh7313 3 года назад
Ur cat is just awesome😀
@peterzeboroff7448
@peterzeboroff7448 3 года назад
Excellent video, a lot of these kind of power supplies generally look fairly well made for a Chinese product, however this particular one looks much more cheaply made then the usual low quality ones from China.
@capistor1
@capistor1 3 года назад
Could you share some good links for learn more about power supply? You mention topologies maybe share some links for that too?
@samcoolegliding3524
@samcoolegliding3524 3 года назад
"Mum can we have electroboom?" Mum: "No son we have we have electroboom at home" Electroboom at home:
@martinmatthews9381
@martinmatthews9381 3 года назад
yep typical coming from wung hung low factory The cap cans probalby were part of a tuk tuk in a previous life LOVE THE VIDEOS
@gmac8852
@gmac8852 9 месяцев назад
Been power 2 5k chinese diesel heaters for 3 years with 1 of these and it is showing no signs of trouble.
@catalinbadalan4463
@catalinbadalan4463 3 года назад
Looks like those caps have passed through a car body shop! :)
@poptartmcjelly7054
@poptartmcjelly7054 3 года назад
Reusing semiconductors is better than using cheap counterfeit parts because the originals are more reliable even after reusing. Same can't be said about those mangled capacitors.
@kenthoughtin
@kenthoughtin 3 года назад
My father bought this power supply for his amateur radio, haven't failed since the day he bought it.
@Fizzer99
@Fizzer99 2 года назад
I have a similar 12v 30a psu that failed. I suspect it is the power transistors. I want to replace them but want to know which ones to use to make it better. The ones that came out of the unit is E13009L and J13009. Thanks.
@Martin1N4007
@Martin1N4007 3 года назад
vyděl jsem hodně, ale kondenzátor plněnej voskem??? Tak to je hodně :D
@hoggif
@hoggif 3 года назад
Now I know what a modern wax capacitors look like. Only seen them in old equipment before. :)
@PF-gi9vv
@PF-gi9vv 3 года назад
ha ha, those olden days when we not only stripped the electrical equipment, but also the components inside the electrical equipments.
@Delali
@Delali 3 года назад
More reason to thoroughly test components bought from china. I remember spending sleepless nights on a particular project, only to realize some of the jumper cables I bought didn't have the copper wires in them. At that point all I could do was laugh, I couldn't even be mad. Dented capacitors filled with wax huh!😅
@constantinjitariu1439
@constantinjitariu1439 Год назад
I got the 12V 20A version i recieved it in exactly the same way with dented capacitors
@ZinovaS
@ZinovaS 3 года назад
I was writing a comment to try to persuade you on talking about the output ripple of this PSU (I have a similar one) and maybe some ways to make it better. but I see I am an hour and seven minutes too late...
@anwarpspsanwar
@anwarpspsanwar Год назад
Perfect I like very much thanks you
@BrucesWorldofStuff
@BrucesWorldofStuff 3 года назад
Bloody Hell! Thanks for the video! LLAP
@user-pz6cx8zf2y
@user-pz6cx8zf2y 3 года назад
For those who are not familiar with these products: A) Always multiply their Watt rating indication by the correction factor 0,48. Thus the Chinowatts are converted to Realwatts. B) Further derating of the output power might be necessary, depending on the ambient temperature and humidity of the installation place. As a rule of thumb, use minus 30 Watt per degree Celcious, above the 18 degrees C ambient temperature. C) There is nothing wrong with their waxed caps. It's merely an innovation of the Chinon Shiticon, the original manufacturer, used in order to destroy their competitors. D) Always wear protective glasses when you see these caps working. They tend to explode unexpectedly, if you stared at them...E) Enjoy your buying preference safely and happily!
@jooch_exe
@jooch_exe 3 года назад
I have the same power supply only 24V / 21A. It actually was able to deliver 560W before the voltage started to drop. Mine has 13009's in it, very curious how this one will perform!
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 года назад
at 21A you'd be horrified by the voltage ripple, I suppose
@Random_4400
@Random_4400 2 года назад
this would be perfect for a car amplifier if you want to use it indoors :)
@IkmalRusli
@IkmalRusli 3 года назад
14:21 The cat explains why those caps is hopeless...
@Willam_J
@Willam_J 3 года назад
I’ve never seen wax used as ‘body filler’ on capacitors. Yikes! 😳 I’d rate this power supply as: Extra Super Dodgy
@cyruscheng499
@cyruscheng499 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VRdcukLYU-k.html
@Shmbler
@Shmbler 3 года назад
Wax doesn't make any sense to me. I'd think that it melts when they apply heat to shrink the fake cover foil on. So much extra work when they could just have desoldered them with a little bit more care and inserted them in their original state instead. Undamaged old and used caps would be so much more trustworthy than damaged old and used caps disguised as fake quality ones.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
There are probably different price grades on junk pulls - nicely pulled ones would plausibly cost more, someone messed up and fixed up the issue as best they could to still shift the product and not be stuck with just trash on their hands. Ultimately the PSU manufacturer didn't care what they're buying, counting on nobody actually looking inside, because i mean the first thing that you should notice are two different batch transistors with the same type.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 года назад
I don't get it either, same story with how they pull chips out of sockets and then throw them in a pile, dunk them in solder, and sometimes remark them instead of giving half a shit about safe handling and selling them as the as is pulls they are. I understand the concept of dishonest practices for profit, but they'd almost certainly make more being honest here, between the reduced labor and guys like me who demand a refund when I buy "new" and get recycled shit.
@MrCh0o
@MrCh0o 3 года назад
@@SianaGearz I don't even understand how you'd need to apply such force to extract the capacitor while desoldering. Unless they actually just force-pulled it without desoldering?
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 года назад
@@MrCh0o Some of them extract components by holding the PCB over open fire. Because everything is so hot, it can be difficult to get a careful and accurate grip on things, they must be holding the board with one set of pliers and extracting components with another. And capacitors can be in pretty well, legs can be splayed due to hand placement and they're also a little chunky, it's those rivet legs.
@piconano
@piconano 3 года назад
I have one that looks exactly like it. It's a 60V version and only 8 Amps. Mine has only one transistor and one diode. The space for the extras are left blank. Also, the two power resistors driving the bases are in parallel and have a very weird value. It uses an LD7575 PWM controller chip, One 20N60S5 N-MOSFET and one 20JL2C Diode. Maybe it just looks the same, but I think they are all the same PCB, with different resistors for different voltages. What is the numbers on the 2 PTCs? I can't read the markings on mine. They both blew up open circuit and the markings have left the building!
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild 3 года назад
The PTCs are marked 5D-15. One transistor? 60V 8A means 480W, that's way too much for a flyback, but in a 1 transistor forward I'd expect 800-900V transistor. Weird.
@CuriousScientist
@CuriousScientist 3 года назад
Capacitors gone wild... :D
@RainBitcoins
@RainBitcoins 4 месяца назад
The wax is just crazy....oh my god wow.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 3 года назад
I don't think i would trust the whole thing untill all the capacitors were replaced with decent ones. And the bad heat sinking of cause. I would not trust it at 50 amps, 20 amps would be my expectation. They lie about the parts, so nothing stopping them doing the same for the maximum current. I'm sure you will make it good and reliable :-D
@neail5466
@neail5466 3 года назад
Hello, sir can you please teardown a HP or such server PSU, those are noisy but very reliable, so if you please explain those that will be really helpful. Chinese wax smoothing was a delight to watch.
@kresimirpecar4925
@kresimirpecar4925 3 года назад
5A maybe, 50A if you like fireworks :)
@johngarritzcx6733
@johngarritzcx6733 3 года назад
Yeah or this plug ut in wit alooaadh e.g a lamp sfff frzizlecrack BOOOM sjjuuper Dodgee😂😂
@franzliszt8576
@franzliszt8576 3 года назад
Yaaaaaay finally
@HarshRMaru
@HarshRMaru 3 года назад
Yeah waiting foe the second part
@goirikdhar8149
@goirikdhar8149 3 года назад
How did you connect wires with those small halogen lamps with reflectors ? 😕
@ptronix
@ptronix 3 года назад
Dodgy capacitors r us, I love your cat
@TeacherBrunoOneil
@TeacherBrunoOneil Год назад
I need the value of the first inductor before the bridge rectifier.. please.
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 3 года назад
Help! My capacitors are leaking some kind of conformal coating... wait... A FLAMMABLE CONFORMAL COATING!!!
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 3 года назад
Good point you were making about the fact that those designs by themselves aren't horrible. Just the really bad assembly and components, that you absolutely can't trust at all. I have seen going as far as faking NE5532 opamps, which by themselves are already so super cheap these days. I sometimes buy chinese knock-offs and just replace the board. In the end this is quite often still cheaper but also reliable when replaced with proper parts. In most cases it would cost me more just to get a display and chassis for example. Depending a little bit on the type of product obviously.
@danielmantione
@danielmantione 3 года назад
I have the impression the power supplies are designed by skilled engineers, but small attic manufacturers purchase (or steal) the design and then try to produce that for the lowest possible cost. Buying recycled components saves money and thus makes you more competitive as an attic manufacturer.
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 3 года назад
@@danielmantione Yes, that is not even an impression, that is how it goes. Even the big boys cheap out just on a couple of cents sometimes. Unfortunately :( Also because it will give a bad reputation towards sometimes a whole technology by itself. Switching power supplies for example, don't have a good reputation because of this.
@Antagon666
@Antagon666 3 года назад
Hahaha full of hidden surprises !
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