139. Fossil Future w/ Alex Epstein

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Alex Epstein joins us again to discuss his excellent new book, Fossil Future, which makes a powerful case for why fossil fuels are essential for human flourishing, and why restricting them is the real crisis facing humanity. Alex explains how overhyped the supposed ‘alternatives’ to fossil fuels are, and how fossil fuels remain completely essential for our modern standards of living, and why their use is constantly growing. Why do fossil fuels represent the only realistic alternative to poverty and early death for everyone on earth? Why do carbonhysterics only focus on the supposed negative impacts of fossil fuels, but never their benefits? Why is it so hard to have an honest debate with carbonhysterics? We also discuss how the use of fossil fuels was instrumental in ending slavery and liberating women, and whether fiat inflation is the driver of the propaganda to vilify fossil fuels. We conclude with a discussion of whether fossil fuels really are from fossils, or if they are naturally occurring in earth.
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@Nasumbati Год назад

Literally strange this has so little attention. History will be in these men's favour

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@daNorse Год назад

Welcome to the club! :)

@daNorse Год назад

p.s. you have a WhatsApp spammer! (delete him)...

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

@@daNorse I can report such... But you may still see it... Also isn't it interesting that alphabet allows them on channels they disagree with?

@stefanolo2 Год назад

I'm so happy every time Alex gets a platform to spread his knowledge from, and now it's from a podcast by one of my absolute favorite thinkers in bitcoin. I found Alex for the first time in late 2015 and bought his book The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, and i will certainly buy and read Fossil Future as well. Thanks both Alex and Saif!

@EveryDayWalkingWithChrist Год назад

My favorite researchers and teachers!!!! Thank you IMMENSELY Saif and Alex!!!!!

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@Nomenius1 Год назад

The price sensitivity argument is such a mind blower for me. It's not something that I'm completely sure is happening, but if anything is happening then that is a very compelling reason why it might be happening.

@LiborTinka Год назад

There is a great video from Royal Society called "Andrew Szydlo's Chemistry of Coal". For anyone interested, it teaches people how important this resource is. It's not "just" for energy. Without it, we can't imagine whole industries like steel, chemical or pharmaceutical. Millions of chemicals ranging from solvents through plastics to pharmaceuticals are made from crude oil and coal - it's the richest source of raw organic material (stuff containing the C-H bonds) we have, both aliphatic and aromatic. People made great progress in mitigating the risks (like capturing SO2 and NOx fumes) but as with the "war on drugs", the propaganda focuses only on the bad and completely ignores the good and the harm reduction, making effectively more harm overall and solving nothing in the long run.

@petersmith-prolifeministri6969 Год назад

It is absutely true , when you have engines , no need for slaves. Its good to notice people mentioning how Britain ended the slave trade.

@emoshunless Год назад

One of the most important books of our time. Buy multiple copies and share with everyone.

@genewint7438 Год назад

FREE SPEECH!?!..You Tube?

@DanBauer Год назад

A+++ conversation, I learned so much. Thank you both and I can’t wait for your book!

@stevecloutier9414 Год назад

Superb discussion, thank you gentlemen !

@matejgalovic2814 Год назад

It'd be great if you'd get a new microphone for 150th episode of podcast or something like that, there are cheap options such as elgato wave 1 which you can probably get for under 100$ and the sound would drastically improve. Love the content either way, keep posting!

@petermathieson5692 Год назад

Alex Epstein, the clearest thinker we have on this topic.

@S54VR6 Год назад

Can someone explain to me how Elon Musk is going to terra form Mars, a barren wasteland, into a liveable environment but somehow we’re making earth permanently unlivable with fossil fuels?

@thaddeuswalker2728 Год назад

This is not a contradiction across a single person or group. I have never heard one person claim both. However if we came across such a person and I was trying to be charitable I would say perhaps their comparison is between Earth and Venus. Mars is also advertised as hard and dangerous

@Junglebtc Год назад

Excellent point 👉

@amarreder6241 Год назад

Fossil Fuels must be considered on its humanitarian basis, first. 1. Water Treatment Plants are mostly powered by electricity. 2. The majority of electricity comes from Fossil Fuels. 3. There's no modern Medical Technology, Medicine, or Procedure that can happen without clean water, for sanitation. The life expectancy in India has improved as a result of numerous medical and healthcare advancements. India's life expectancy in 1950 was 35.21 and it will be 81.96 in the year 2100. To understand this, it must be noted that India's life expectancy in 2022 is 70.19.

@kiter9271 Год назад

The US electric grid entails much more complexity than discussed @~1:15:00. "Shorting the Grid: The Hidden Fragility Of Our Electric Grid" by Meredith Angwin, recommend you invite Meredith to a future podcast.

@toungewizzard6994 Год назад

Hello keep up your honest truth x

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@EmileBroussard Год назад

I suggest much more time be spent expanding and refining the anti-'slavery' aspect of modern energy-dependent machines. This is the perfect moral case in defense of hydrocarbons. It should be front and center in the effort to enlighten the propagandized masses.

@qrzupsjohnson707 Год назад

Interesting to hear about how slavery ended when the Industrial Revolution propagated. And also wholesome hydrocarbons 😅

@zympf Год назад

Al Gore, "this is what the scientists are telling me" (predicted Arctic to be ice-free by 2014)

@Blockchain_bingo Год назад

Wow amazing episode!

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@baxrok2. Год назад

Brilliant. Thank you!

@zygi22 Год назад

Loved the wing analogy. 🤣 But in reality this is the logical outcome of forcing unreliables.

@genewint7438 Год назад

It seems youtube does not like this podcast!..the thumbs up has been removed!!!

@lawy3077 Год назад

Great episode👍. I hadn’t heard this was Russian theory, interesting seeing they’ve been promoting anti-fracking and ESG propaganda for 20 years.

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

Anti fracking, ESG, and net-zero are all anti industrial ideas, they all come from the communist world view.

@ArnoldJagt Год назад

Ultimately, fake reality is a consequence of fake money.

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@kiter9271 Год назад

Excellent podcast. BTW: There wasn't, isn't and never will be, a theory of climate. The GCMs are like a Mickie Mouse cartoon, almost completely detached from reality. "Taken By Storm: The Troubled Science, Policy and Politics of Global Warming" Christopher Essex and Ross McKitrick

@lordkelvin441 Год назад

I'd think the root cause of all this is widespread belief amongst certain demographics (significant one named by Saif, other significant one by Alex in his book) that any human activity can be efficiently done on command and/or under fear. Variants of that belief rub on Western society since formation of UN, a platform where such ideas can be communicated without overt challenge. Within that framework it might be still posited that even in industrialized world it is still easier for some people to subjugate others than to subjugate nature. Especially for people that haven't received and/or appreciated Saif's rigorous enginering (or at least subset of) training. They have no mental capacity to alter that (would require thorough understanding of MacIntyre Paradox and ensuing contention with heavy cognitive dissonance), so they would pursue projects that ensure their ability to subjugate people is not challenged. That is end game behind all support given to 'biocentrists' and alike.

@jimcricket1 Год назад

I bought both books anyway, in print and audio.

@glennmitchell9107 Год назад

If politicians could think in anything other than one-size-fits-all solutions, then I would be more comfortable with "Green" initiatives such as mass transit, electric cars, and automated transport systems. Such experiments might work well (and maybe even be necessary) in highly urbanized areas. However, such solutions are nonsensical when applied to rural or even suburban areas.

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

Every 'solution' that's top down reduces human liberty.

@cloudstrife543 Год назад

Wanting to explore more: 1. The previous show with the Dr said that human sourced GHG would increase the temperatures by 1 degree celsius. What would you say to the argument that they say that the increase is too fast. Is the answer just that we need to accept it and will be fine as the alternative of moving to net zero is worse? 2. Yes on fossil fuels, but we should continue to find cheaper forms of energy also, nuclear, renewables, whatever it is

@kamilion100 Год назад

Great talk

@williambaikie5739 Год назад

I ❤ fossil fuels!

@jimmybrad156 Год назад

21:45 wood can burn with only byproducts being ash (which is good for soil), co2 and water (except for when starting up) - based on burning the smoke. Look up rocket stoves.

@joshua8314 Год назад

100% agree with Alex, with one exception. The term "fossil" fuel was a title invented to imply scarcity of oil and thereby drive up prices.

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

It's hard to get... That is petroleum.

@juspermachogu Год назад

Great interview

@MD-kv2gc Год назад

The $500bn wind subsidy is bandied around Saifedean - I heard some other numbers recently that sounded more like

@marcelolamoglia Год назад

SA + Coinkite, great! congrats!

@Earthandweather Год назад

I don't understand your reasoning on the "making someone your slave doubles your productivity". Sure...Lets say it does, It also doubles your need for food & shelter, etc.

@thn91506 Год назад

You gotta do something with the audio to mitigate the nasal breathing sound.

@formetoknow540 Год назад

Safedean amous is a G

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@Matzes Год назад

You should have Tony Seba on to hear the other side. He is also a fan of bitcoin

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@iangcoville Год назад

You two please team up with Adrian Bejan (population expert) and Todd Barry (host) and lead the new enlightenment.

@WhoMe87799 Год назад

Has anyone ever mentioned that big oil saved the whales from extinction?

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

Not lately ‼️ But it's very true ‼️

@416dl Год назад

Having explored the geologic process of abiogenesis I've been calling it petro-fuels. Thomas Gold was right about this.

@arbelllowther1512 Год назад

Our world leaders might suggest that we get rid of the wheel. It is the same ludicrous idea as net zero and banning fossil fuels. 😮

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

That's their goal, never doubt it!!

@American_Energy Год назад

Saif, have you and Alex redone your math when factoring in batteries?

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@johnnymidas5879 Год назад

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@kevthorpe2116 Год назад

thank you for bringing common sense oil and gas hydrocarbons are essential for life keep up the fight for the truth and stop the hysteria

@deal2live Год назад

Correlation is not causation, when it some thing you disagree with.

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

Are you saying thunder causes lightning? Or that thunder causes rain?

@user-xz9hu4rd2v Год назад

I’m amazed the YouTummunists haven’t put a Climate Change disclaimer on this video.

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

I am as well. They tend to have a hardon for Alex.

@joehawbaker601 Год назад

Can you reconcile these ideas with Nate Hagens'? Mainly, when will we run out of this incredible energy? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--xr9rIQxwj4.html

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

We'd be in far less danger in that regard if we could use nuclear power. But that's been made impossible by the same people who want us to abandon oil without a replacement in place.

@daNorse Год назад

Fusion and Thorium!

@wheel-man5319 Год назад

Neither on is in commercial use, the second isn't even more than barely possible. Certainly nothing on a sustained, reliable basis.

@OptimalOwl Год назад

Maybe eventually. But right now, even U-235 reactors languish in an underdeveloped state. It'd be like trying to replace horses with nothing in 1875, expecting people to ride on good wishes for the next 45 years until cars become affordable. And it's not clear in exactly what way mature nuclear power would compete with or complement fossil power. The answer could possibly be that gasoline and diesel are just more convenient for many transport applications, such that we'll want to synthesize them using abundant cheap nuclear power.

@grantw7946 Год назад

Dirty, Dirty, Dirty!!!

@genejitsu3305 Год назад

Undoubtedly machines are life enhancing. However if you observe prior civilisations, like aboriginal Australians, Mayans etc. all contributed and enhanced nature close to the garden of Eden esque state. Naturally it would be considered akin to a garden of Eden purely because those environments, over time, were curated to human needs and tastes.

@vicmarc4984 Год назад

I mostly disagree w/ this video. There’s no logical response to the climate crisis except conservation and innovation, a REGRESSION is consumption is imminent because past 30-years of inadequate planning. I.e. Regression, and slower use of fossil fuels is now a necessity (due to lack of planning for last 30-years).

@amarreder6241 Год назад

Fossil Fuels must be considered on the humanitarian basis first. 1. Water Treatment Plants are powered by electricity. 2. The majority of electricity comes from Fossil Fuels. 3. There's no modern Medical Technology, Medicine, or Procedure that can happen without clean water, for sanitation.

@OptimalOwl Год назад

Radical disempowerment, deindustrialization and impoverishment seem like solutions in search of a problem. There's just nothing going on with the climate right now that's anywhere close to justifying the massive human costs of your policy.

@wtucker4773 Год назад

@@OptimalOwl If nothing going on with the climate right now . What is a change in climate that would signal a need for action?

@OptimalOwl Год назад

@@wtucker4773 It would have to be something whose net-effects are clearly negative for humanity, and clearly of sufficient magnitude to exceed the benefits of fossil-powered industrial civilization, including our fossil-powered climate mastery. Maybe +1ºC and +30cm per couple of years instead of per century, or something like that? Perhaps less, if the effects of global average temperature increases weren't felt most in places that could stand to be a lot warmer anyway. If industrialization had caused human deaths from climate to increase by a factor of 50 rather than to decrease by a factor of 50, then that could have been the start of quite a convincing argument. If we were on track to exceed the all-time high of CO2 concentration, at something like 4 - 6'000 PPM, then I would be pretty worried about that. I won't say it'd immediately convince me to disempower and deindustrialize, but it'd put me in the mindset of weighing large, known benefits against some non-negligible risk of human extinction. Did you have some specific counterfactual in mind that you wanted my take on? Either way, yours is a fantastic question. I wish people would ask it more often of themselves and eachother.

@wtucker4773 Год назад

@@OptimalOwl Thank you for your reply, another question when you have the time. Do you know how the concept of decreasing climate-related deaths by a factor of 50 was derived? It’s not floods, droughts, storms, nor the extreme temperatures call Climate Change, that many believe will happen due to the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that worries me. It’s the very small life forms in our eco system that most don’t see or even think about. They will have a whole new environment in which to flourish in, due to global warming and an increase in carbon dioxide levels.