#14 Gavin Schmidt - Climate Science, Projections, Measurements, Denialism 

For me, what started as a mundane video ended in grand excellence. The power & strength of the climate modeling is well demonstrated. Unknowns are usually emphasized if not controlling in so many other discussions. The false sowing of doubt by those seeking to protect their unprecedented profit and power, the robustness of the science-based climate predictions, & our agency to do something is crystal clear in this interview. Glad I kept watching!

This was an excellent interview showing the complexities of climate science & the humanity of the people behind the calculations. Gavin is the kind of scientist I enjoy listening to. He's enjoys his job because it challenges him, not because he has an axe to grind. Keep up the good work Cool Worlds ‼️

Dr. Schmidt truly is The Wizard of Oz! We are lucky to have him as the keeper of the temperature data. I know that I get excited every time there's a new GHCN version.

god, this was amazing. I cant overstate how much of an inspiration gavin serves for me as an aspiring climate scientist, and I need to mention how great of an interviewer you are. it'd be hard to count how many times you asked a question that piqued my interest, either because it was something I didn't know myself or was deeply interested in knowing Gavin's thoughts on the matter. the ending segment on astrobiology and exoplanets is something I view as a light at the end of the tunnel. for lack of better words, assuming we do get our ducks in a row and effectively deal with climate change, the study of exoplanets, other atmospheres, tech/bio signatures, etc. will be the future of climate science and that excites me to no end.

Nice guest. It's interesting to hear from the people making the models and what their view is like. I use models a lot in my work (transistors) and it's not quite the same language.

My concern about warming is the effect on crops. Heat, droughts and floods destroy crops. We're seeing a lot of those effects this year. That's dangerous for our society, especially since it will get worse each year

After 35 mins I took a break as the discussion revolved around the accuracy of climate modelling, & I am thinking what about self-reinforcing feedbacks & the size of the data grids? Will resume later ..

Finally, its starting to feel like we have a decent chance at combatting climate change. Thanks to people like Schmidt who have worked on it for all these years!

47:28 this is clearly way beyond his specialty this whole segment. He is not a social scientist. The problem under discussion is not a battle of values, like he characterised it, but a battle against the control of values. The solution is developing thinking power to where values are difficult to control.

gavin nails the reasoning as to why climate science seems uniquely polarizing in terms of public interpretation and scientific consensus. people's lives are directly affected by climate change, thus, resulting in some holding more extreme, contrarian views because their lives are going to impacted, one way or another. the existence of black holes, for all intents and purposes, is not very contentious because the average person simply has no frame of reference and no point of relation. covid is a great analogy and another example of why climate science is not unique in terms of the disconnect. people ran towards outright denial in order to avoid the reality that their life would be affected, largely negatively, and things would need to change; rather than deal with this reality, they chose to reject the existence of the pandemic entirely

There some important realities re the net zero drive. E.g. the UK does not use much coal now which is presented as a victory. However the UK has achieved this through offshoring much heavy industry to other countries that do burn coal, so the global net benefit is not reduced significantly.

Pluvicopia proposes the only theory to solve most CO2 induced problems, by using the atmosphere as a tool. The hypothetical design needs good numerical modeling. Can anyone give me an idea about how to find such resources?

Seeing his physics and models, the fact Germany never beat the USA to the atomic bomb in ww2 is delineated to people at the top making the correct decisions on how to work on this problem. The fact Germany was working on an offshoot of atomic power by studying it's nature of radioactivity and stability of elements instead of using Enrico Fermi to make plutonium instead of beating our heads against how to make more information available on how to create enough material available, like from the very top like Pzillard going to Einstein to tell him of the threat posed by Germany being ahead in physics which scared the heck out of our top thinkers. Had Germany made it a national priority like we did with the Manhatten project then atomic weapons would have been falling all over England. In fact they had the perfect delivery system with V2 rocket, which instead of using all these scientists in the V2 program instead of in Germany all these disparate units instead of making things like the 163 Komet instead focusing on making the ultimate weapon a nuclear weapon. This is the failure at the top to direct forces and talent into a proper direction. I believe they did have enough talent if properly directed towards the weapon. Fortunately the leadership did not understand millions of electron volts per reaction to a few 10's of volts with chemical elements.

Fossil fuels rising at their fastest ever rate after 30 year dire warnings is the only game in town. Were now tracking or exceeding worse case. This guy might as well get a gardening job as no one is listening.. also its fairly badic science ghg loading..you dont need millions in kit to confirm 23:15

So i looked up the patents that darpa has about how they can manipulate weather. So Why aren't they using their technology to improve hurricanes earthquakes , so they're not so violent, etc

I’m not a scientist and don’t claim to know much about climate and global temperatures. I have however spent alot of time trying to find out the truth. The sources I feel like are the most credible tell a different story. Point being , long term climate predictions are next to impossible. We need to learn how to say “ we don’t really know”.

You keep the best camera for yourself 🤭

Look the experts said global warming caused rivers in Europe to dry up. The experts said look there’s writing on rocks that are super old. Why didn’t the experts ponder what pollution people emitted centuries ago to cause the rivers to dry up way back when? What pollution caused global warming to let them write on rocks centuries ago that’s now seen in the drought? Also global warming advocates rarely mention the River Thames freezing and the mini ice age Europe had. Like I’ve not seen a climate model that explains that and the warming today

This is why no one trusts science experts, and its relevent to the inability of experts to communicate ideas in a way that isnt obfuscated or easily conflated, or left as a point of contention, that we have no recourse to understanding. At the 40 minute mark, you ask the question about public understanding by questionaire relating to climate and what scientists know or comprehend. Gavin correctly extrapolates this question, as not being specific to climate, in juxtaposition to your opinion its not, and he puushes back of you saying its not in other fields of science, he states, "its not a situation unique to climate science, it happens whenever science comes up with stuff that is inconvenient to various things that people care about. Evolution is another one, where public opinion is extremely divergent to (the) scientific opinion. Covid showed, i think quite how powerful, motivated reasoning is, when it comes to interpreting scientific information, not withstanding, at the begining of covid there was a lot of uncertainty, but there were a lot of people who were very certain about a lot of things that were very wrong..." To which you noise an agreement. What...? Who were these people that were wrong, what was it that they were wrong about...? We have no idea, in an already convulted mess made by big pharma, science man himself Dr. Fauci and variois institutions and states giving information we now know to be invalid and deathy to the public. Young healthy adults have died, because they followed the scientific advice, but of course we should follow them about climate...? This just leads to annoyance, confusion and why experts get ignored, they stray into areas and make generralisations they dont like the public making, but do themselves...and we are still clueless as to what he is actually giving context to.. Im sure Gavin isnt talking about the origins of the disease, or the need for vaccinating the young (anyone under 50, in goodhealth) but we wouldnt know, he doesnt mention the juxtaposition of lies and cover ups and mistakes around covid, we now know happened from data taken, because we have the emails and testimony, censored reports from big pharma etc. We do know that experts with divergent opinions were hounded out of jobs, or besmirched, servicemen fired, nurses, doctors, and scientific experts like Jay battacharya at stanford. At one point, it was deemed racist to call the disease the chinese flu, and who is it that uses such epothets against people when they want to shut conversations down..? Please, please, please do better at communicating points of specificity, not generality, i can get that at the pub, you are supposed to be communicators of reality, not haphazard, easily obscure opinion. Regards. how is this the values of science, upheld by scientists..?

Never in my life have I been this early!

Didn't explain chem-trails ? but I didn't watch the whole vid

Until we step away from the brink of WW3 and people can afford groceries dont expect anyone to give a crap about this. Always funny watching these privileged academics who have no grip on reality obsess over this 😂

No one is going to say it? …

❤️🔥👍

I’m surprised that these two people are so entrenched in this subject…….the sun ☀️ is a star to which we have no control….also I like them to prove beyond reasonable doubt it’s man made..technology in the future will become more cleaner but at the moment we spend all our money 💰 on wars we have no choice but to use fossil fuels……these people have been predicting this since 1970 and nothing has happened……it’s just a TAX AND TAXES AND MORE TAXES

2:07 “global warming… is a religion” [freeman dyson]. you had all those years that he was alive to convince him that he’s wrong. But instead you only managed to convince him that you’re a religion. So what do you want from us?

8:30 “impact” 😂😂😂😂😂how’s that related to climate science? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂So once again we have an academician stepping outside of his field of expertise and lecturing us. And then you are complaining that we’re not listening to you?! Why should we listen to a non-expert???😮😮😮😮😮

36:35 i heard enough. nothing new. “warming is due to CO2”. assuming it’s true. let’s continue warming the planet 🌎 ❤❤❤❤

I like a hot jungle planet.

Gavin sugarcoats nothing, and it's just what we all need.

I was just speaking with my good friend, a known maga anti-vexer about his very adorable dog, Jackson. Jackson is due for his periodic shots, which his owner obviously has no problems with. Because It’s for his beloved Jacky boy, and of course Jackson’s doggie booster vaccines are quite safe. You see this is the problem, if they, all the anti-vexer/conspiracy theorists/maga can’t see through their own contradictions and hypocrisies how can we get through to them individually, let alone as a whole?

Superb interview!!! I especially liked the but about how a model encourages synergies across multiple disciplines of science. With AI becoming more and more powerful and important, I wonder what will be possible in the field of climate science next...

Great conversation! As a retired engineer, I see climate change as a great opportunity for innovation and technological advancement that will result in a better world with fewer environmental risks. It's the politicalization of this issue that presents the biggest barriers to making these advances possible. Even so, I still feel that we'll figure out how to either curb the problem or adapt to it.

4:00 You cannot just walk into Mordor! (look up the PhD as LoTR analogy if you don't get it)

This is a brilliant conversation. Well spoken and deep with knowledge. Thanks for this.

On the topic of disagreements. I had a coworker claim temperatures are actually cooling because the NASA Huntsville scientist for whom he did house renovation told him that the atmosphere is actually cooling. We argued intensely. Turns out that NASA Huntsville had been calculating the inverse due to a math error.

Thanks for this informative discussion. Viva Science!

Please post the clips about the tipping points we are about to hit.

Climate science does utilize statistical methods to analyze data, detect trends, and project future impacts. However, the core understanding of climate change - that human activities like burning fossil fuels are causing global warming - is based on established scientific principles. Excellent conversation!

It takes right around 1.0 ppmv of H2O or CO2 "greenhouse" gas in Earth's air mixture to make the same LWR energy per second as the solar SWR energy that Earth absorbs per second.

If the science is strong , why have an uncontested debate in a vacuum . A few things said seemed to be untrue or a least heavily spun, and no mechanism for challenge in the interview .

I laughed sooo much wheh China and India example, though, so realistic, excellent video.

Can't natural gas cause as much warming as coal, depending on the methane leaks?

1st and 2nd street fell into the sea? 😮 Citation needed.

So the very beginning of this interview he says it out loud... he didnt know where he could make a living and somebody said 'climate bollox', thats how u can get funding and actually feed ur family. Nothing personal to this guy but how many people jumped on this bandwagon and fed the narrative? Do better Dr Kipping, i used to be an avid follower but please lets stick to actual science rather than the speculation that human behaviour has the majority impact on 'climate change' The actual problems that the western world face due to their facile obsession with net zero is hurting the lower classes to a such a severe degree i find it hard to comprehend

“global warming… is a religion [freeman dyson]. when questioned during an interview: “so how come you’re the only one that says that?” dyson answered: “because I’m retired”. 😮😮😮😮

Please make a video of Terrence Howard's science claims and debuke them. He certainly gained much publicity when speaking to Joe Rogan.

Human activity have very little if none impact on climate change

This is one of a few things I'm glad I don't have to worry about. The future can clean up any mess. XD

Load of bollocks. They still can't predict next weeks weather... 😂

35:30 “the earth will continue warming due to CO2”. great. let’s keep adding more CO2. [paraphrased from freeman Dyson]