just so you know, the 27GR95QE's overshoot issues seem to have been fixed now, not sure if it was fixed in the latest firmware update or if there was a hardware revision, but my unit has zero noticeble overshoot which I tested down to 30hz. It's weird that LG haven't announced this anywhere, but it's definitely fixed now
@@AnimeUniverseDE it's called CPC or convex power control, you can disable it with a service remote (you have to turn AGING on, and then go into the DEBUG Panel OLED menu) but it'll turn itself back on when the monitor turns off :/ It's super annoying and makes the monitor appear much dimmer than it really is, hopefully LG can add a menu option to disable it in a firmware update but honestly I doubt it'll happen
BadSeedTech measured the overshoot after the 1.08 firmware update and saw it basically on par with the ASUS PG27AQDM. The video is titled “Did ASUS win the OLED war?” and it’s at 3:55.
@@squiddude1692 Yeah this is a dealbreaker for me, honestly, glad I didn't get that one. Thanks for the additional info though! I don't think MonitorsUnboxed mentioned that at all in their review
Let's face it: Without brands like AOC and similar LG/Samsung would overprice their OLEDS even more on an regular base and ASUS would probably charge not twice but three times more for their current and upcoming OLEDs Screens. Thanks for the Review. I really enjoy watching Unboxed Content on an regular base so keep up the good work :)
I think AOC QA may have something to do with it. I have never seen a AOC monitor surpass the 2 years and keep working as it should. Dead pixels, sometimes an entire row of them, Flickering even with VRR turned off, not booting when it's cold... I have LG monitors with more that 20 years now, that still work and I haven't had any major issues with them in the first 5 years after purchase. Maybe it's just my luck.
Here in the UK this isn't even that cheap. It's around £850. Where as the LG one is priced similarly. Yesterday Amazon were doing the prime deals and I managed to pick the LG model up for under £800. Can't wait to try it out next week.
Basically you're trading screen size for refresh rate by buying the AOC one. I dunno if I need a 240hz 1440p screen, 4K 120hz looks plenty enough already
Good review. If you own this panel, make sure you are on the latest V30 update. This update is only accessible through the AOC G-Menu application. Curious as to which firmware this was reviewed on. My monitor shipped with the V024 firmware and I noticed similar input lag observations as Monitors Unboxed. However, after the V30 update, seemed to place it in line with the quicker MLA LG OLED panels. Once again, thanks for the review. This monitor is a great option for those wanting to experience 1440P OLED in a 27" variant.
@@user-ti8gt4dx1q I only see G-Menu V3.21.00...is there a way I can tell what firmware the monitor is using? "Display" tab lists Version as 1.4, but that doesn't seem to match the rest of the firmware naming schemes mentioned.
Finally, an OLED monitor under 1500 AUD. AOC tend to offer very competitive prices here in Australia, my current monitor is an AG273QG that I got for 500 AUD four years ago.
I find the price discrepancies so strange between EU and NA pricing. Currently the cheapest OLED 240hz 1440p monitor in Germany that I can find is the LG 27GR95QE-B at 750€ while the one from this video is 200€ more expensive.
Yeah, check prices on just about any recommended monitor here or HUB, the EU prices are all out of wack with AUS and US prices. That said, the LG and the AOC are about the same price in my part of Europe, both in the cheapest part of the 27" OLED range.
I returned my AG276QZD. The monitor it self was great for its cost, but for anyone who has this monitor on for more then 4 hours at a time regardless of standby mode is going to have a very difficult time with it. You’re going to get a pixel refresher warning every 4 hours. As per the burn in warranty, turning this feature off voids burn in cover.
@@RoyalBoyle78 He mentions in the review turning off the burn in features or not doing them can void the warranty. In the actual warranty booklet for burn in it clearly states all default active burn in features need to be maintained otherwise the warranty is voided. The review is pretty accurate but he doesn’t mention the pop up that comes up after 4 hours, it’s unsure if skipping these features also voids the warranty, he does briefly mention this, it’s a bit confusing - but try playing a game or having your screen on for more then four hours (or sometimes even sooner in my case) and be greeted by a great blob of text on the right hand of the screen. No remote either, so you have to physically press the screen buttons to either do the image cleaning or skip it. That’s why I returned it.
pretty sure that 240hz is a very premium experience that many setups wont be running on modern games and I think the discussion needs to happen on 1440p/4K 120hz but its nice to see that the upper end gets another entry. While I think 800 bucks is still out of range for most people its nice to see what the future holds on more affordable ranges.
@@sudd3660 I'm always a little uncertain about 144... The difference between 120 and 144 is basically non existent but I heard there can be small desync issues when you consume something locked to 30 or 60 like RU-vid, older games or a capture card feed. I personally will aim for a multiple of 30...
@@Kiyuja i mention 144hz since that is the most common, 165 and a bit above that is also used, too much is not a problem, set the one that works best for you in windows. higher the monitor hz the more options you have.
@@sudd3660 I cant speak from experience myself but I think this has something to do with the containers/ intervals of the refresh. Like you can get tearing when your FPS is higher AND lower than refresh. But again I just heard it, haven't seen it myself but I know the tearing effect when there is a mismatch
@@Kiyuja as long as your monitor has freesync or g sync compatible tearing is hard to get. at least with the browsing, movies and games i go thru. i use afterburner to set fps cap to 2fps lower than monitor refresh rate i set in windows(240hz) and vsync off everywhere.
Even thou I already bought my asus 27 inch OLED, I am very happy these are coming faster and faster. I waited 10 years for this tech to get to monitors, so I am happy that it will bring competition and get cheaper, perhaps even improve.
@@MissMan666 i had it until 3 days ago, it's atrocious for text reading. especially if the text is on a white background and is slightly thicker in font. i have seen buttons on website with weird colored shadows on left side, unexplainable shadows under letters etc. text in game (example your gold in dota 2 HUD) is also blurry. regarding text, it feels like a 1080p monitor rather than 2k.
I have been a Oled user since the LG C9, i got the 65" for couch gaming cuz i had the roccat sova keyboard and i always played single player games on TV instead of a Monitor, and i got the C1 48" when it launched and replaced my 180hz monitor, since then i play apex legends and those HUD UI elements are always on the screen and the re is 0 burn in on both of my LG Oled TVs * i disabled the GSR so that the ABL is not a harsh and the screens run Hot at times but still no burn in thank god
Great videos as always. Now I'm guessing but am convinced that a format where two or three actually affordable monitors in a popular segment for a volume of consumers, were looked at together would be greatly appreciated. Skipping some aspects like the presumably non existent HDR support would be perfectly fine in that format. Cheers!
US$800 is ~5,600 DKK (Denmark). Add in the 25% sales tax and this is DKK 7,000. You can buy it in stores for DKK 6,499. I strongly suspect you forgot to include the sales tax. Sales tax is never include for US prices. £650 + 20% VAT = £780. The higher price compared to Denmark might just be a Brexit tax.
I noticed this, if this was lower it would be a good buy for many. I guess we just see more and more flood the market and prices will come down, I am in no rush after getting the AW3423DW not long after its release.
That screen is about 900 euro in Denmark. Its a start, has dropped a bit in price, but I dont wanna buy first gen products...I wait until I know when the right price and screen comes. This screen in the video is same price also atm...Honestly ill wait until they drop to like 5000 danish kroner, only then ill consider it. Thats what my LG oled 55 inch TV A1 costed.
@@Djuntasor just wait for the Second revision of the already better qd OLED monitors. MSI is going to announce one 27inch wqhd 360hz qd OLED one in January.
I bought a 1440p 144hz AoC 27" monitor, the first one had several dead pixles. The second one died after a month and wouldnt turn back on. The third one wouldnt turn on straight out of the box and the fourth one died after 11months of use. I couldnt even bother to get it replaced after the fourth time so I bought a LG Ultragear and never looked back. I dont trust AoC as a brand at all in terms of quality.
It feels like a solid bit of time that the issue with subpixel rendering has been an addressed issue. It also feels like it should be pretty reasonable to implement by Microsoft, though I could just be naive. Wonder what the hold up is? There are multiple subpixel arrangements that could use this TLC. Would be nice if someone interviewed a MS employee who could comment.
@@skyboy884 Feels like confirmation bias here, or maybe fundamental attribution error. Guess you're frustrated or so jaded, to hell with critical thinking.
As someone who jumped the gun into buying this monitor before your review video. My experience before was great and even after this video going live I feel comfortable that my luck paid off in making this decision. Things I personally like is The stand: It's very simple and diverts away from most monitors that keeps using the overrated triangular leg pattern or ones that stretch outwards. This design can almost mistake it for a regular office monitor if you were going for as much of a stealth gaming setup as possible. The colors are a major step up from my other monitor and it feels like 4k in some instances. The price being what drove me into buying mattered most overall. $799 USD needs to be the minimum. What I didn't like and this is all subjective but the button dial on the back is annoying to handle and AOC should have given a remote of sorts to allow easier change of settings I'm not sure if it's just my hardware but having freesync on causes a flicker of sorts on the monitor when performing specific things like scrolling over a dark background or some scenes being dark enough to trigger it. To fix this, all I had to do was turn it off and the problem was solved. After doing this, I still would not receive any screen tearing whatsoever and so this setting wasn't doing anything. Overall a good monitor that I'd just go with since competition isn't willing to cut prices at an acceptable level.
I am in the same boat as you and my thoughts and experiences echo yours. I had to turn off Freesync as well. I don't run it in HDR, I keep it in SDR due to HDR performance being... subpar or imperfect. Have you had luck with HDR on yours?
It wouldnt surprise me at all if this is a way of spending less at the end of the product's life time cutting costs with support and justifying the lower price tag. How the fuck could they say "oh i'm sorry mate, we aren't going to be able to give you warranty bc look, the manual says you can only use your monitor for 4 hours at a time and you have not followed this recommendation. What do you mean I have no way of knowing It? Of course I do believe me."
yeah the readibility of text is so trash on an oled bc of the way the pixels are laid out, and of course theres other issues with oled that still needs to get fixed. im waiting for better minileds and other alternatives to get better/cheaper
@@Aleph-Noll haven't noticed a difference in text between IPS and OLED tbh. but if it bothers you, why not just change the text to uniform color with a contrast theme?
I need reviews based on first person shooter games like csgo and valorant where in any sync tech is considered a no no. Most of your reviews are based with the inclusion of sync techs and not just raw performance with maybe a strobe effect if the monitor has it
I've been tempted to buy a 27GR95QE, but I keep convincing myself the price will continue to drop and my RTX 4070 would barely be able to drive it anyway. I believe there's 360 Hz and 480 Hz OLED monitors coming out over the next couple years so these 240 Hz models should be much more affordable. And hopefully an RTX 5070 or RX 8800 XT will adequately drive one of these 240 Hz monitors.
Just bought the LG variant last week, so i got scared that this monitor might be better than that for a similar or a lower price, thankfully it seems to be pretty much the same, except for the 80ish nit difference in the lowest % window size HDR brightness (which actually could make a difference, but i hope not xd) Thanks for the great content!
@@thecowoz It's QD-OLED, not QLED. QLED is on Samsung's TVs; it's basically IPS but with brighter displays thanks to Quantum Dot technology. QD-OLED is OLED but with Quantum Dot technology.
@@FVU-85 Unfortunately, those don't work in my room, which has a very strange light setup; the only way to fix it would involve an electrician and building new light sockets in my room. At the price that would cost, and isnce the monitors aren't perfect still, I'll sit with my 4K 144 hz IPS (with small amounts of local dimming) monitors that work over HDMI 2.1 and can be used all around, unlike pretty much OLED monitor. So in my case, the current coating on the QD-OLED monitors make them no gos until they fix that on the 2024 iterations. I mean, 85% of gamers won't or can't afford to use just a gaming monitor AND have to use a separate display just for work; it's too expensive! That's also going to hurt OLED adoption; if you can't multi-purpose these expensive monitors, they're always going to be niche products.
I really want to pickup one of these new OLED panels, but I am genuinely worried about burn in. I work from home, so my monitors can be on for 12+ hours a day, and I don't want to deal with awful burn in early into the life of the monitor when I want to tackle some competitive fps games.
I've had the LG since launch and have had no issues with burn in, same thing with their c9 tv with upwards of 3-4 years of daily use. If you aren't displaying static images for insanely long times daily it's really not an issue. I use dark mode in most things as well which may help, but that's more out of preference than fear of burn in. Not sure about other models but at least the LG monitor will even go to sleep after 15 minutes idle if you have to walk away for a while. Just take common sense steps. For example, I have the TV hooked up as a third monitor but use it pretty infrequently from the PC, just to watch stuff/controller game since it's facing the couch. So I just leave it with a fully black wallpaper to avoid any problems from having it on the desktop for ages while I use my other monitors normally.
I suppose it depends on what you do when the monitor is on. If you're staring at excel spreadsheets for 8 hours then you'll likely have burnin faster, whereas if you're shifting windows around and doing various different things, it's less of an issue. Bear in mind, panel technology has come a long way so it's not really an issue unless you try to get it to burn in. I got the Samsung Odyssey G8 (3440x1440 165Hz QD-OLED) 4 months ago so it's not a fair representation, but I've had the LG C1 for almost 2 years as mostly RU-vid/video player, occasionally sitting on the same youtube page or paused a video for hours at a time, and it doesn't have any issues with burnin. I have turned on all of the pixel shift and refresh options it has, as well as an auto-off timer of 4 hours which does help if I ever forget, but I don't foresee any real issues there. Background is on a random shuffle from their own folders, changing at 20 minute intervals. The taskbar is hidden, so the only real threat is if I have programs and games running that has static elements on them, and even then the pixel shift and auto-off settings should be plenty. Now, will I get to keep the OLED monitor (the Samsung that is my main monitor) for over 10 years as I have with my tertiary LCD? Eh, probably not. Will it last 5? Sure, I don't have any fears that it will go soon. A friend of mine used a plasma tv for his computer back in the olden days, some 15-20 years ago at this point, and it barely had burnin (though he took care to hide taskbar and hid all desktop icons and basically "overkill" prevention), and some 5 or so years ago he gave the tv to his father since my friend was getting an OLED instead. It's still going.
Other than dell, there is no other company offering a warranty on burn in, so AOC is good in my book. Also if it dies in 3 years it gives me an excuse to upgrade to something even better by then. People have no problems replacing graphic cards in 1-3 years! I just look at it as a tool, its all going to be replaced at some point. Sure I don't want to replace it in a year but 3, it wouldn't bug me that bad because I already know better and brighter OLEDS are in development and are the future. My LG C2 still looks perfect after a years use! Black wall paper, no icons on desktop, hide task bar and set a screen saver to come on if your PC is idle longer than 20mins. It's pretty simple to use preventative maintenance.
You're gonna be waiting a while. The issues aren't caused by the monitor so to speak, but because they don't use rgb. It's a windows issue. Microsoft needs to fix it, but I guess not enough oled market share for them to care right now.
@@Rspsand07As I understand there's ways to make "clearType'" work better with the different pixel arrangement but it's still not great.. I read somewhere that it's not a good pixel arrangement for text and that's just it
could you please do a review of the INNOCN 27G1S? Its a 27" 1440p 240hz VA panel. I saw some reviews pointing out that this is one of the clearest VA panels they ever see and it should be able to compete with the fastest ips panels on the market... unfortunately i dont really trust them and would love your opinion on the monitor, if its worth the 299$ and a good Monitor for mainly competetive gaming and media consumption.
Got this today for 637€ new, for this price the choise for me was obvious. Closest competition was around 900€, so this was an insane deal for this monitor.
@@LuckyBoy-bb5hs Haven’t looked at it but i can say it’s not the highest compared to other monitors. Been using it now for these 4 months almost daily and for this price I can’t complain. It’s still bright enough In hdr even tho It’s not the best
@@Jopinas Извините,можете ли вы зайти в расширенные параметры дисплея и написать,какая пиковая яркость HDR у Вас?У меня 418 нит Izvinite,mozhete li vy zayti v rasshirennyye parametry displeya i napisat',kakaya pikovaya yarkost' HDR u Vas?U menya 418 nit Sorry, can you go to the advanced display options and write what peak HDR brightness you have? I have 418 nits
@@Jopinas Thank you very much. I just can’t understand why in the review of this monitor from Monitors Unboxed, they have a peak brightness of 651 nits? Or can you completely ignore this 418 nits indicator in the advanced display options?
@@Rspsand07 I've seen some options in some Linux Wayland compositors that seem to be able to account for this issue. But as I don't plan on buying any 2023 OLED due to either missing HDMI 2.1 or having piss poor screen coating for my room (fixable only with an electrician come over), so 2024 it is at the minimum. But like I said to another commentor, most people simply cannot afford or justify buying an ADDITIONAL monitor just for HDR and gaming, given the expensive price point.
PLEASE include the SDR brightness range of OLED monitors! I'd like to know how the brightness fluctuates depending on a 0%-100% window. Only including the 100% full screen brightness doesn't give any information on how bright the screen can actually get in SDR. Can it reach 400 nits in SDR? 300 nits? I wouldn't know because you never include it in your reviews!
four hours is a long time, I think this is going to help me regulate my screen time, I'm just mindlessly scrolling most of the time anyway. just glad its enough to watch a movie
The LCD moniitors 27 IInch are getting cheaper with panel of a brands are beter than others at 144 hz, 165hz, 190 hz and 240 hz. What are the beginner prices ??
i like that small stand and low price, AOC would match my second monitor also, AOC was the best buy back then. what i do not like is all the different inputs, only displayport would be an improvement, now it takes forever to multitask and start up because of it. and please no more light on stuff, rgb can burn in hell..... and full 90 degree tilt is a good feature and it also adds height to the stand so i wish it had that.
I play games very frequently but I also do a a bit of digital art and motion graphics/editing when I feel like it. I've heard OLEDs aren't the best for mundane or regular activities such as reading or office work, but would my artistic hobbies be affected too? Colour accuracy matters quite a bit for me but I do draw on a separate drawing tablet for reference. Thank you! Your videos are helping me a lot with picking a new end-game monitor for my new rig.
I don't think any of these are accurate OOTB, but it seems to be possible to calibrate them. OLED calibration has some caveats, though. Regarding your hobbies... If they require displaying a static image for long periods of time, than OLED panels are actually at risk. I'm thinking about static digital art, though, not animation since I have no experience with that. In any way, you can expect it to show no visible signs of burn-in for a couple of years if you're reasonable with preventive measures. And even than you'll most likely have to look for it intentionally in order to notice it. I've used my OLED display for five years almost (without any care for burn in at all) and while it developed this issue somewhere around year 3,5 it's practically undetectable 90% of the time (even if I look for it). Image quality is still light years ahead of any IPS screen I've used and I'm very happy with it. It'll have to burn out to a crisp until I even consider switching to anything else as a forced measure. And I have OCD, so it's not like I'm probe to just don't giving a damn about any kinds of issues or mere flaws/imperfections.
I'm surprised no reviewers mentioned CPC. I had to sell my Xeneon OLED not because of it low peak brightness, but because of CPC. It lowers the brightness by a lot around the edges and makes whites look light gray. I had perfect blacks and unperfect whites. Maybe with brighter screen is less noticeable?
I would be curious to see an Affordable Ultrawide MiniLed 32-34 inch. I'm too scared to use Oled specially most games i play will have some static toolbar and icons.
As long as you use the provided pixel freshing tech there's really nothing to worry. Aw3423dwf with burnin warranty could be a great choice if you can get it with 20% discounted
I dont see anybody talking about OLED flicker when VRR is enabled. IF your frametimes increase massively ( say 4 ms to 20) for half a second most of the OLED monitors will start flickering. I was able to observe this espescially in Rocket League when going through the menu
I observed this as well, and corrected it by turning off "AMD Freesync" in the OSD. That said, I still don't observe screen tearing so...just a straight up win as far as I can tell.
Great review!! Thanks. I bet a 240hz OLED would be amazing. As I already think my 120hz OLED tv is amazing. But yea I want to upgrade for fps games at some point just because. So the question is do I bite at the 240hz panels this year or wait for 360+. Monitor tech is crazy right now as it seems like every year we are getting major upgrades. Great work!
The panel release schedule is relatively set for the next year, and there are zero mentions of a 360Hz+ OLED. So, why would you wait for a fictional product? Even if it does somehow release in two years it won't be affordable for three. So, are you really cool with waiting 3+ years for the possibility of an extra 120Hz?
@@rustler08 true. There are rumors of LG starting production of a 480hz OLED in q3 2024. Not sure how true that is but read it online so it must be true. Ha. But yea it could easily be 2025 before we get that next big jump or end of 2024 maybe. But I’m sure 240 hz OLEDs are already smooth gaming that it would be amazing. I could always buy soon and then upgrade later. There will always be another best thing. And 480 frames will be super hard to get even on a great setup. Even though higher hz does allow for input lag advantages in theory. But OLED is already so amazing with input lag that part might not matter.
These 27" OLED monitors should really come at 500-600usd/Euro considering you can get the aw3423dwf, which is larger and far better for videos and immersive gaming. These days the Alienware monitor is often on offer for under $800
I really would love to buy an OLED Monitor. Can even get over the possible burn-in risk, but this weird WOLED subpixel layout kills it for me every time, as I am not using my monitor for gaming exclusively. What a pity...
Here in Germany the LG UltraGear OLED 27GR95QE-B is 748 Euros and the AOC AG276QZD is 949 Euros so not the cheapest on the market. Besides that ppl dont buy first gen OLEDs.
Do you have any information on glossy qd oled 1440p 16:9 240hz monitors? I can't believe that there are none yet. When do you think they will release and at what price?
Thank you for all the video's about monitors. I am looking for a fast (low ms + ghosting+ overshoot), 1440p, non-curved, 32 inch monitor (no oled). Will there be video reviews about them?
Steer well clear, those panels are very poor quality and the left side of the backlight tends to die within 6 months to a year of use. I ignored the warnings and bought the Cooler Master GP27Q which uses the KTC panel, left side of the backlight died after 6 months of use and Cooler Master refused to honour the warranty leaving me with a £500 paperweight.
with more use of monitors, you get less tolerant for brightness, so the brightness for gaming doesnt really matter over the time, i mean 10 hours of gaming per day.
can you do a review of the new revision of the m27qx? It's a different panel but they claim all specs are the same besides improved colour accuracy. I've heard the build quality might be lower though
Any chance for a review on the LG 27GR75Q-B? It's a budget 1440p 165Hz IPS monitor? Since it's a new model there's not many reviews around. It's definitely not to the level of the GP850P, but it's consistently around 250€, and sometimes even below ( just a few days ago it was 230€)
😟😕🧐 still outperfoming TF-Panels 240Hz 's ? you guys should still look at the omen x27 . measurement for total input lag was 5.24 ms and 0.72 ms on the pixel at it's best - and yes i play on that overdrive 4 . don't see that' bad things that should happen then. Nothing compared to ips so, same input lag here. not outperforming still happy that you guys showed me '!the monitor to get - before 32" 240 / Oled
I changed the monitor recently and i was pretty close to buy a oled, but then i choosed a IPS (AOC Agon pro ag274qs). The oled technology is not ready for PC use as far the desktop use or so can permanent damage the panel (burn in) and the text is not clear. Sad, the oled technolgy itself is pretty cool (i have a oled TV and the quality of the image is fantastic) but not ready for PC's.
Does it have fans for cooling and if not how high are the Temperatures ? Because it Temps are higher its more likely to BurnIn Pixels. Is the Power Brick internal or external because Heat ?
