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Episode 1496 chip of the day
mystery parts from the junk pile
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@ebrombaugh
@ebrombaugh Год назад
Those are pretty nice. I've been using them as voltage references in analog synth signal conditioning for a while.
@imaginarypoint
@imaginarypoint Год назад
oh yes. The LM4040 family. I like to think of them as an active zener diode. I use them to power up low power micro controllers. They can regulate about 15mA. More then enough to many application. Great device to have in your tool box.
@ivolol
@ivolol Год назад
Mark Hennessy has a nice long article on using these, "Statistical DVM Reference", easily google-able. He bought a stack of them at 2.5V, then selected them to stack as closely as possible in steps of 2.5V up to 12.5V as a selectable voltage reference box. LM4040's claim to fame is probably just being *the* most jellybean shunt reference around, maybe slightly better than the TL431. If you just need some decent Vref but don't need the bee's knees, grab a LM4040.
@SkyhawkSteve
@SkyhawkSteve Год назад
There is an adjustable version called the LM4041. The NSC datasheet shows a block diagram. I've used these as small shunt regulators, especially with an external pass transistor in the feedback loop. A very handy part!
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 Год назад
That's a pretty neat datasheet from TI. It's interesting that they have 2.5v, 3v, 5v and 10v versions. But also 2.048v, 4.096v and 8.192v versions. They must be good for A-D and stuff 👍
@craigs5212
@craigs5212 Год назад
Looks like a take on the LM431 adjustable Zener which is used in lots of SMPS for the opto-isolated feedback circuit. Thanks for the video
@chrisscott1547
@chrisscott1547 Год назад
For newcomers, a BIG PART of electronic design is spending lots of time reading data sheets.
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
and with a bit of skepticism 😎
@ano_nymouse
@ano_nymouse Год назад
interestingly enough, that tc1 part tester might be using an lm4040 or tl431 for voltage reference. the original design they're based on uses an lt1004 which are kind of expensive in comparison.
@dilbertnewton6864
@dilbertnewton6864 Год назад
You've probably gone over this already, but how easy is it to blow up your part in the curve tracer? Or put it another way, is it idiot proof. I'm asking for a friend. :/
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
Absolutely not idiot proof. it will output 10 amps or 1500 volts your choice on how you want to release the magic smoke. and can kill idiots at the same time. be careful.
@farqhart9642
@farqhart9642 Год назад
Interesting part. Microchip makes an LM4040/LM4041, seems to be similar, and their datasheet contains an interesting functional diagram.
@ivolol
@ivolol Год назад
There's like 3 - 5 OEMs (or more?) that have copied its basic structure, it's one of the most jellybean Vrefs around.
@BrananPR
@BrananPR Год назад
If you don't already have a video on building a linear power supply from a reference, pass transistor, etc - this would be a fun part to use for such a video. It would very effectively demonstrate that you need much more than a nice reference to build a good power supply
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
I already did a video like that, I used a TL431. this would be ok too
@odindimartino597
@odindimartino597 Год назад
I use the A grade of this chip to calibrate some instruments because it have a nice initial accuracy for the price
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
0.05% is plenty good for most stuff
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Год назад
Yes video on difference between 2221 and 2222 please
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
already filmed will be out in 3 days
@bobdoritique7347
@bobdoritique7347 Год назад
Merci for this video.
@aduedc
@aduedc Год назад
Nowadays, it is probably called voltage reference.
@Peter_A1466
@Peter_A1466 Год назад
That is what it says on that datasheet...
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ Год назад
Ya, these are on my list for me next order, cheaper than Microchip voltage references, seams. Section 7 shows a simplified schematic. 4 npn/pnp transistors, an opamp configured as comparator and some current sources (and current limiter?) and unmarked resistors, seams like a pretty cool circuit to set the thresholds on the comparator. There is also a LM4040-N datasheet.
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
4030 and 4050 too
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ Год назад
@@IMSAIGuy Thnx, added these to datasheet collection, the 4030 seems the ultra high precision variant, the 4040 in the mid and the 4050 on the 3rd spot so far i could see from the datasheet comparing the 2.5 models, unfortunately the data format differs in the datasheets if you compare 4040 and 4050.
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ Год назад
@@IMSAIGuy It's easy or somewhat easy to computer control a variable output voltage using a mosfet for bench power supply but what is need to "computer" control it's current?
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
@@AnalogDude_ I did a five part video on a simple supply. you get get the basic ideas from this. replace the voltage and current control pots with two D/A converters.
@AnalogDude_
@AnalogDude_ Год назад
@@IMSAIGuy Ah, didn't catch those.
@mr1enrollment
@mr1enrollment Год назад
looks avalanche-ish
@georgesampson4714
@georgesampson4714 Год назад
Pretty amazing what you can get for about a $buck.
@alfagulf
@alfagulf Год назад
What is the third pin for?
@IMSAIGuy
@IMSAIGuy Год назад
datasheet: Pin 3 is attached to substrate and must be connected to ANODE or left open.
@ivolol
@ivolol Год назад
You can get an adjustable version of these as well (LM4041), where the 3rd pin comes into play.
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