whats going on here with his comment is just a reflection of self being projected instead of owned you have to understand that Football Hooligans are narcisist their disordered people who are deeply in pain they just deny and projected their own aspects of self
Bollox from beginning to end. If it was the FA Cup tie at Highbury, I was at that match on the North Bank with my old man. Millwall was there for about 20 seconds before the old bill took them out down the front. I can’t remember any punches, and as a kid I used to like seeing a row. This geezer should try getting a job on Jackonory .
I was there. This is basically true. a few Millwall were in the North Bank. Declared their presence and after a brief scuffle were ejected by Police. No big deal, they did this everywhere. It was a Millwall thing. I was at the Clock end. It was seriously overcrowded and had to get on the pitch with lots of others due to crushing
I attended two of the only four games at Millwall ever played at Arsenal and don't recall any infiltration of Millwall fans on the North Bank. I think he's just making it up
Embarrassing 😂 full grown men acting like 13 year olds could you imagine going home too your children and telling them you got your face caved in over a football game
Most of them hadn't got children back then. He's referring to back in the late 70searly 80s. Most people he's talking about were only 19/20 at the time.
@@dontfeedthetroll294 i think he means now pal hes got a point tbf jesus it was a good time to be young but its so blown out of proportion its getting embarrasing
@@dontfeedthetroll294 you wrote it pal ,wasnt having a go just isnt clear if that what you were trying to say ,ive read it again and still not convinced but what do i know
Except I was at this match if he's talking about when Millwall were in the Old first Division, in the North Bank at the back under the roof and none of that happened.
Why don't Arsenal fans ever boast about their firms exploits like most of the other clubs? They did galatasaray who everybody said were top boys and never seemed too concerned about Millwall or West Ham.
Gooners were never seen as a serious firm. Turned up at Stoke a few years back. Made a stand in two locations. Got battered like a chip shop cod in both. Arsenal are the worst firm in London. I've seen harder custard on apple pie.
Dude your a fkin mug you did not click on this just to comment that give it a miss, if you gave it a miss then you wouldn’t have clicked on it you absolute bellend
Embarrassing that this old man sounds almost proud of his antics. These people shouldn’t even be given a platform to talk about their sub-human behaviour. It’s a game of football ffs you ain’t on the battlefields in a war zone
Been there and got the T shirt. Pleased to put it all behind me now. Still very insightful to hear the different stories and opinions. On reflection I'm just glad that i didnt get seriously injured or injure anyone else, but i did see stuff that haunts me today.
To only have 15 fans prepared to take on Arsenal shows that Millwall were not confident and not really up for it. Used to watch Arsenal home and away in the eighties and not into FV myself yet Arsenal often had a few hundred fans in the home ends at a lot of the games I attended..
😂😂😂 no they never. Qpr had a more fearsome firm, arsenal are somewhere around Fulham when it comes to firms, and let's be honest those that know will tell ya that 20 good fulham would ruin 20 arsenal's best 😂😂😂
@@porkchop7652 Anyone in the know will tell you Arsenal were arguably the most feared in the country in the 1980s. I've heard lots of Tottenham and Chelsea say the same. You're obviously a clueless div ain't ya?
@@muttsnutts1367 I was there that day on the North Bank and I assure you that nothing remotely note worthy happened at that end that day. It was all at the other end
I think everybody's taking his statement too literally. Not every football supporter was a hooligan so in reality they only took on the 50 in the crowd that were.
There would be a lot more than 50 in any home end that would have a go and you'd have people that wouldn't normally get involved . Your talking hundreds , they would get destroyed.
@@johnhoward6509 I guess it depends on whether the stewards/cops got involved or not. A few seasons ago a small group of Liverpool fans got into the Stretford End. As the ends are now all seated and the Liverpool lads were in the front row only a small number of home fans could get at them. Very luckily for them the stewards came along and escorted them outside before they got to badly beaten. Without stewards, there would have been deaths!
There would be but not in an organised fashion. Sneaking into the middle of a stand doesn’t mean the 100 people around you are all ready for a fight. The people really up for it would have to make their way through it would be chaos. Even pictures of it you can see most people just looking around! Clowns 🤡 😂😂
You would NOT take a diabolical liberty like that at Stirling Albion! Our Ultras would tear you limb from limb. Especially when we are at full strength during half-term. 💀💀☠☠
15 Millwall Hooligans Attack 8 Thousand Arsenal Fans 2055pm 7.9.23 the last remnants of the old Norse Valhalla schtick, i feel... but unlike them i am asking myself dont they ever feel a tremendous sense of embarrassment to even consider fighting? it is very very embarrassing.... very... fighting. somehow comical... somehow ffs laden... all that british bulldog crap. but then again it's a different cultural setting and football has always been tribal - if you are of that particular mind-set - whereas i think football towers over all (fussball fussball uber alles! ) whether that's choosing yer team or playing the sport...i mean i can quite easily watch dover play or bury fc... it matters not who is playing.
millwall weren't actually all that to be honest,they came to coventry in the 90's and a coachful found a nice pub near to highfield road,the vauxhall tavern..the problem was that the vaux's clientel were mainly jamaican pimps pushers and their hangers on..lets just say most didn't ,make the game...now coventry have never had a notorious footy firm but its always been a rough place to live,some of them decided to stat over in coventry only to get trouble at every pub they went in..in effect they got ran out of town..following city home and away alot in my younger years i hated mobs like oxford or leicester..horrrible away days
Remember the pub well ,one of my uncles drank in there and another uncle ran it for a while .Hillfields was a rough area with rough pubs like the Brewer Baker ,the Ivy Cottage and the Freemasons .
If you look at the pictures of the old football firms. The Arsenal firms always look far better dressed and far more up for it than the majority of the other firms who look more like beggars..
3:45 i think that ginger bob guy is the ginger one from the 1970s milwall documentary, danny dyer interviewed him as well on that documentary he did about football firms
He went up tit norf when he was a teen and chased Duffy, cockerill and sykes but they all got themselves put in an adult prison so he couldn't get at them !!
I seriously think he's talking about The week that was - 15th Oct 1977. Charlton 4 Spurs 1 at the valley, Tottenham Hotspur had taken some 25,000 supporters to the match and there was around 10,000 spurs supporters in the Charlton end and around 20 Millwall supporters with the old donkey jackets came out of the middle entrance into the stand and steamed into the Tottenham Hotspur supporters .. HOW DO I KNOW, I WAS THERE . I even went to the Millwall v Tottenham game on boxing December 26th 1977 at cold blow Lane. , Tottenham won 3 - 1 and on the way out , Millwall fans started digging up the pavement slabs and hurling them at Tottenham Hotspur supporters.. The Tottenham song WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM. FROM THE LANE . Came from Millwall, they sang it originally as .. WE ARE MILLWALL / SUPER MILLWALL FROM LANE . Meaning COLD BLOW LANE
I remember in the 80s one tottenham supporter done the same thing at Tannadice at dundee utd in the legend goalkeeper hamish macalpines testimonial The spurs supporter tried fisty cuffs in the shed end ( home support at that time) nobody wanted this at Hamish's game. I was thrilled to see Glen hoddle & co up here but as it turned the thug kept all the aggression up & took a kicking in the end. Spoiled a great game which ended one each I recall. I think this "supporter " got lifted in the end & sectioned under the mental health act. Pretty sad.
It's true mate, I was one of the 15, knocked 7000 out on my own whilst the other 14 lads chinned the other 1000 left overs. As we walked away there was a pile of 8000 bodies all unconscious. Surprised it wasn't on the news to be fair?
Cockneys get carried away watching all of the films that have been made about Cockney hooligans. Eddie Murphy had a stand up routine back in the '80s, about how Italians started getting carried away after watching the 'Rocky' films.
I went all the millwall arsenal games nothing like that happened only when millwall came and won a replay in the mid 90s and millwall fighting each other in the clock end 😂
Same fella who was on some documentary with his pals a short period before millwal played Newcastle in a league Cup match early 80s so everyone knew who he was what a pasting those Millwall lads got that night
Snake 🐍 style is the best fighting method for crowded spaces no need to windmill. I would have employed the snake 🐍 style to both hypnotise and strike my opponents
Did you see the men from West Ham and Millwall got togeather to raise money for a little kid with cancer,watch it on RU-vid the ring announcer was shouting on the mic sit down and stop fighting,the fighter's in the ring,were watching the crowd fighting.raised a few quid for the kids treatment tho,bless em☮️
@@johnnygiro5261 one was a British title fight on BT sport and the big story about raising money from a Millwall fan who wore a West Ham shirt! Tbf there could well be another one which I've somehow not seen or someone's just posted it with a made up title 🤷🏻♂️
Just had a quick browse and all clips I saw was from the event I said about. Forget the crowd fight the main event was one of the best fights you'll see!
God all the sad idiots talking trash about us, guys who would have been too terrified to do what working class men have done for centuries when two groups of young men from different places meet, WE fight no killing (on purpose) rules that 90% of the time were followed I.e no weapons no taking liberties when someone is down no attacking anyone with a lady and no attacking shirters (normal fans) yes these rules were broke from time to time especially when hate was involved like us playing West Ham, but otherwise it was fun. I did it for 10 yrs following millwall everywhere, the mates who you mostly only met on match day were as loyal as you could ever find, we at millwall only got on average crowds of between 3 to 5k at home during the 80s yet had a good 250 lads which if you compared to a Chelsea or Man Utd would be if they had 40k home crowds an average of at least 2k lads so we are a tiny club yet were one of Britain’s top hooligan firms, We were rated by others as such because we stood together always you would never run and leave your mates as many people will say from other firms, we lost some but won most everyone loses some times, I don’t care what you or any other soft spoilt kids or men say because this was 35 to 40 yrs ago they days are gone we grew up stopped the fighting and matured had families but never will I regret it they were the best days of my youth, and if you had the guts to do it you would 100% agree, now the middle class and upper middle are taking over our game pricing normal fans out.
There was about 50 Millwall what went in the North bank .it was went Millwall had orient away in late 70s the game was postponed they decided to go to arsenal v Blackpool league cup game. Hardly a big game for arsenal. Come on you lions was shouted at the back of the north bank and arsenal fans were on there toes they came back went they realize there wasn't that many there was a bit of a stand off but arsenal did nothing and Millwall stood at the back for the hole game. I believe this fellow talking as heard this story and change times and facts and exaggerated things like most football hooligans do
My friend, I don't care about the title but Jesus has nothing to do with it. Idk you beliefs and please no offense. Did you ever notice the ONE AND ONLY NAME USED IN ANGER IS GOD & JESUS CHRIST. It's blasphemous to just throw their names around. Again friend I mean no harm or offense. If I didn't care I wouldn't have said anything to you. Enjoy your day/night. God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊👍🏻💛
I just don't get the mentality of football hooligans, I don't actually think there is a mentality, or a thought or an idea. It is literally the bottom end of the gene pool. A backward primal thing. It's never about the football. I witnessed it at a game back in the early 90s between Middlesborough and Sunderland. My mates are big Sunderland fans, I went for the experience, the minute we got off our minibus and walked towards the away end we were attacked by a couple of hundred Middlesborough fans. We ran for our lives, my mate tripped over and lost his glasses, I ran back for him and just grabbed his arm and legged it with the others. The worst thing I saw was a dad running with his young son on his shoulders, he got jumped by three guys and they battered him even with the kid there. I haven't felt fear like that before or since. It was just mindless violence for no other reason than these guys getting an adrenaline high.
@@Boomshanker484 I'm not a soft arse liberal snowflake, far from it. I just don't get that kind of thinking. It's a total waste of energy, I'd be embarrassed having to tell someone outside of that circle that I did that on a weekly basis.
I was actually at that game as a 12 year old in 1988 I think,yes in the bottom right corner of the north bank the home end, there were Millwall I remember a huge explosion then it kicked off,don't forget it was a different era and people,it was a dark cloudy 3pm and an evil atmosphere waking to the ground,Millwall jumping over the home end turnstiles,arsenal evened things up with them on Highbury fields after the game as they were at their peak around that time,different era
It may well of happened for 20 seconds its hardly a feat, now if all 16 of them stayed in the North Bank for the whole match he would have something to bragg about. What happened to the 15 Giants at the end of the game did they dissappear into thin air?
Andy Nicholls in his book ‘Scally’ recalls when elements of the Millwall F’ troop made their presence known in the Gwlady’s street end of Goodison Park, the home of the supporters of Everton FC. The shout of ‘We are Millwall’ went up and the fists flew, they where game but had bitten off more than they could chew, soon they found themselves on a hiding to nothing and with their backs towards the wall and the pitch they turned, the wise ones hauled themselves up and over onto the pitch and made their escape others kept on fighting a losing battle. He recalled one Millwall supporter turn to climb the wall and that’s when the meat hook went into his back, drawing him back in…football hooliganism and pride where a part of the times, as graphic as it may seem.
I agree - I’m a council estate kid who followed my team in the 80’s - I got stuck in as a matter of honour- I’m now an academic who attends posh dinner parties- we discuss aesthetics , film , books etc but non of my guests ever understand when I describe the sheer adrenaline of old school football aggro - but they are exhilarated by my tales of fisticuffs with the odd homemade Kung foo star thrown in for good measure
I assume he's talking about an FA Cup match at Highbury in the late eighties. I was in the Clock End (away end) and saw the Millwall mob surging down the terrace at the other end. It was spectacular and there was a lot more than fifteen of them - at least a hundred if my memory serves me right. They then walked along the edge of the pitch up to the Clock End and jumped over the barriers onto the terrace. The old bill then made the massive mistake of coming mob handed into the thousands of Millwall fans to make arrests and got absolutely battered. They ended up having to retreat, minus their helmets and covered in boot prints and blood. They were lucky none of them got seriously injured. I was at the front of the terrace, not doing anything wrong, and a copper on the pitch tried to grab me so I punched him hard in the face. And there was absolutely nothing he could do about it. 😁
@Robert Exley You must have been looking the other way. It was in the left-hand corner as you look from the Clock End. If you were in the middle somewhere, you might not have been able to see it but I don't know how you could have missed them all walking along the pitch.
I ran football in glasgow ,for fun n buzz when younger but id feel so embrassed talking detail about stuff we done back then .as grown ass man now .. but on so many podcasts you get these grown assed men discussing what done n faces lighting up n loving it . Tryin relive there youth when there in 50s shite ..so toe curling embrassing to watch really is man.. give self shake boys move on with lifes its embrassing n cringy to watch it ...
@@alpha01243 definitely Alex its pathetic grown men reminiscing about being idiots in there youth . I admit I done it myself but certainly wld not be on podcast boosting about for my kids to see ? What are these men thinking off. Pathetic ..id be embrassed talk about what I and guys done back day really would
Sounds like the undercover policeman who infiltrated the Milleall hooligans and wrote a book about it. Says he left the force and is now just a regular fan. In any case it is exactly the same story and he refers to his sergeant being there.
Interesting. All fighting for nothing in the end based off the movies I watched on these situations. This is what happens when the tribe is too big. The lower class tribe fight each other out of boredom and the upper class part of the tribe live in lots of space and lots to do. The thing is with monarchy countries, youll always be a second class citizen compared to the royals... and elites.
These kinds of people aint in control of themsevles by fighting other people their giving their power away and dont know it its behavior raised from fear and trauma they all have a war going on within themselves and untill they end the war within their allways be a battle going on outside of them mirroring back their trauma in the forms of what others people say and do cuasing them to become triggered a high ratio of these types of people end up in jail for murder their insane you got to be wired up wrong or insane not to see the bigger picture and see it for what it is
And ???? That makes them what hard lol 😂 Put just one in the ring or cage against an amateur boxer kick-boxer or mma fighter and we will see how tough they are then 🤦🏼
Yeah but at football in England you havent really got to fight, just run a few steps throw a chair aaaand retreat!.........unlike in Eastern Europe or as you say in a cage.
Gone are the days of English hooligans. The powers at he cannot allow such strength in numbers. It was too much of a force. Now it’s the prawn sandwich brigade
Arsenal are by far the biggest supported team in London Millwall is always gone get outnumbered this isn't west ham who Only have majority fans in east London arsenal will even outnumber Millwall in south London Southwark in there home turf😆
This game was back in the mid to late 80’s I was there at an Arsenal v Millwall game and I’m a Yid lol I saw a small group of Millwall march in the North bank and kicked off straight away
I have never been a football hooligan but I am an Arsenal fan. My last recollection of the animals that follow Millwall is going home on the tube going down escalators and were it not for my sister who spotted it one of them would've punched me in the back of the head possibly knocking me down them. Because he saw a red and white scarf. Classy people.
this story is from decades ago...arsenal had a massive and well respected firm. Millwall back then were another level of psychotic, this was the trademark enterance. Go into the home end, sing, fight onto the pitch. i've e heard the exact same story from so many different sets of 1970s fans about Millwall.
@@AnimatedStorytime881 arsenal ain't had a firm since 1970 terry steele, sainty mostly from East London and s e London nothing from North apart from bootsy and the Armstrong twins I know i saw
