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Women can’t preach according to the Bible

Not as long as you have an image of Pope Francis the Heretic and supporter of leftist mass murder sitting on your table.

I just canceled my subscription . I won’t support-Not when Patreon posts articles by MoveOn (George Soros Marxist organization.)Asked to sign petition to fire conservatives who believe the election was stolen-which it was-mountains of evidence the power structure is ignorant burying. This election was pure criminal by the Left-will the truth ever be brought to light? Probably not as Leftist Democrats NEVER have to pay for their crimes. Until they meet God, that is.

@@m-hayek1985 women can’t preach at Mass. there are plenty of great female apologist speakers. Women give wonderful talks at conferences and training, etc. I’ve learned a lot from women speakers, but still don’t want them preaching at Mass or any other “ priest domain.”

I constantly point out girls/women in scanty clothes and tell my grandsons NEVER DATE A GIRL WHO DRESSES LIKE THAT🤦🏼‍♀️

Deplorable, YES! YES! YES!

I think it’s disrespectful put the tabernacle to. The side put the tabernacle back in the center!

Why do you think it was moved to the side? I've been to 3 churches where it's off to the side, but its placement is part of the setup for the adoration chapel.

Yes, that is deplorable. I’ve made a comment about this to the pastors of three different Catholic Churches. I was visiting my daughter in Northern California and every church I went to had the same thing. The tabernacles were all on the side. One of the priests I talked to was a visiting bishop. This is how he responded to my comment. He said, but during mass we bring Jesus on the table. And I said, this is His house bishop and He belongs in the center of His house at all times, meaning literally and symbolically. Before I left I told him, I’m sorry bishop but what you said is not convincing to me. And I started praying about it everyday. In a matter of 5-6 months when I went back to visit my daughter and I went to the same churches I was stunned to see the tabernacles of these churches were moved to the center.... 🤭🙏😋

@@mike-cc3dd exactly. that's how my parish is, an adoration chapel to the side

Judas was the first to leave early from the Holy Sacrifice and he went out and hung himself after realizing the gravity of his sin!

Your mom gets it!!!

Put one Deacons at per door, to assist early leavers, 'to leave in in a holy manner'.

Or getting there late!

@@tlockerk Guarding the door, as in a prison? Thats a disgusting analogy.

What if your very poor. 👀

I agree, some of the shorts and clothes are disrespectful!

@@mariawren2489We were very poor with 6 siblings but we had our Sunday best and were bathed and combed and looked neat.

@@mariawren2489 means dress modestly and clean clothes.

I have heard , "What if Jesus comes back while you are at church?"

As a Polish Catholic I understand the humor and relate since I grew up in Poland but living abroad in South America where people clap at every mass while singing I have to say there is a place for it when you’re praising God. Cultural differences.

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The choir is not there to entertain us they are there to bring the congregation together in song, when we sing we are praying twice, it is not a concert, your grandma is right.

Clapping in church? Bad. What's worse, the cathedral was built by selling indulgences.(sin). The pope is not your father. That's only the beginning of errors.

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I agree, it is liturgically inappropriate. Drives me nuts.

And holding hands.

@@angelaosborn6722 Right, because in Heaven everyone is going to stand at least six feet apart and not acknowledge each other, so we best prepare appropriately.

I hate holding hands with strangers period and I’m so glad it’s not done during TLM

Yuck

The "choir" (it's more like a band) at the chapel across the street makes me want to run away instead 😞

I wish we still had those beautiful nuns in Catholic schools.

Which just only serves to underline the preposterous and totally Man made fabrication that ALL religion is😂😂😂 I cannot BELIEVE that anyone is deluded by this utter medieval nonsense these days - ludicrous!

I believe that parents should be able to teach their children how to dress for Mass, no one had to tell😢 me how to dress for Mass. We all know that Mass is Holy and commen sense tell you that it should be respected. I was away from church for many many years, but when I came back I knew that the house of GOD is a holy place and respect is in order. I just think some people think that going to church is enough, but you MUST dress appropriately. Respect has been lost in many ways and I wish and pray to GOD, that it finds its way back, starting at home!!!

One shouldn't be waiting for the choir to finish. ALL should be singing!

So do I and my parish of St. Joseph does and have an organ and that is played and there is also a grand piano and I'm not sure if it is acceptable

That’s one of the reason me and my family go to Traditional Latin Mass we love that organ sacred music.🙏❤️🙏

@@mariahmartinez3900 I also attend the Latin Mass. No altar girls, communion received at communion rail on your knees and only on the tongue, communion only distributed by priest, confession prior to mass, etc. Very beautiful!

@@carolstefan7662 Those Masses are like HAVEN on EARTH!!❤️

Organs were also not used in traditional masses. It used to be chant.

The Lutherans got that idea from the Catholic Church not the other way around…

@@RosanetteRodriguez-eq1kz , where did I say that Catholics got it from Lutherans? I literally said "it would be nice to bring BACK the Communion rail in more CATHOLIC Churches. I don't think I implied that we got it from them. Lutherans came from Catholics. I'm well aware that we gave them many of their traditions.

@@RosanetteRodriguez-eq1kz , where did I say that Catholics got it from Lutherans? I literally said "it would be nice to bring BACK the Communion rail in more CATHOLIC Churches. I don't think I implied that we got it from them. Lutherans came from Catholics. I'm well aware that we gave them many of their traditions.

We need the communion rails

Just to say Jesus is not sacramentaly present there at that Lutheran church in thw Holy Eucharist. Please inform your family. I in no way mean to offend

This ^^^

Also a deacon can preach

The deacon is fine too.

Deacons are given that faculty as well. But I think only deacons that are properly formed should preach. We have too much watered down theology being preached as it is.

I think Deacons may give the homily too.

We must have failed to teach our younger Catholics what modesty is. I have seen young ladies wearing halter tops and tube top dresses while wearing a veil. It makes no sense.

Clapping and talking before during and after

@YAJUN YUAN Are you one of those lukewarm Catholics?

Immodest dress is so out of place. Girls in tight shirts , t strap tops, tight short dresses. Men in shorts and flip flops . Im a sinner so I dont want to judge but I feel for me I want to look respectful for our priest , congregation and Jesus. All the saints and angels are there also , we just don't see them

Yes

Some dress like they are doing to a nightclub. Young men with saggy butt jeans, hoodies. Never OK. But, when the church insists they wear their best this is what you get. I worry more about their general attitude, on their phones, children playing games with tablets, bringing snacks for children and coffee for themselves.

Is it necessary for men and women to wear shorts at Mass?

I was at a Franciscans monastery It was a full crowd The priest barely dips the host into the blood chalice. Everyone got the body and blood. The priest was the only person touching the host/blood

@@AnitaMcQuade - intinction is not aloud in some dioceses.

I would like to apologise to all these perfect Mass goers for us fallible Massgoers who may be dealing with, for example elderly parents who ring us as we are about to leave to go to Mass in a state because they have mixed up their tablets. Or for us lonely people who don't see anyone except at Mass- sorry if we like a minutes saying hello to people ehen we walk in. And those of us who haven't got much in the way of "best Church clothes". Sorry we aren't all perfect for you really GOOD Catholics!

@@iainwilson6790 People who come to church dressed like they’re going to the beach in shorts and flip flops or girls wearing low cut dresses that are really short should not be allowed. I’ve seen that many times.

I heard leaving before the final blessing was a venial sin. True?

Go to the traditional Latin Mass

Kneeling during the Our Father and do not do not Shake Hands

Our pastor has been eliminating it altogether and it's such a relief.

Grace Brown - yes!

Lol

The communion song is suppose to help you reflect on the meaning of the bread and wine.

@@sterp8 yea but I find it particularly distracting. I prefer silence.

I can't stand having no quiet time to pray, even say my absolution.

Amen to THAT! I've been complaining about this for years!

@@sterp8 It just distracts me. I need quiet to pray.

There's nothing that says you should or shouldn't. I grew up with this method. Holding hands brings the community even closer together uniting in prayer. Personally, I get a little miffed when someone doesn't want to hold hands because again it's about coming together in prayer not standing apart.

I think holding hands during the “Our Father” is Jesus’ Church standing firmly together. We are His family.

It’s unsanitary and grosses me out in context and physically.

@@susanhoneycutt5610 not exactly something you need to worry about when coming together to pray to our Lord.

@@bobalooloo02 it is a concern with cancer treatments and auto immune diseases; yet I get your point.

Me too. Hands in prayer, head down, eyes closed. Ignore everyone else!

I remember coming back to Mass after having cancer and a young man next to be steadfastly refused to acknowledge me or shake hands during the Sign of Peace. So that was welcoming 😂.

It’s not kindergarten. Stop shaking hands, holding hands...in fact, get out of the Novus Ordo entirely! Get to a Traditional Latin Mass. Reclaim your birthright!

@@marilynrose7318 greeting another person and asking God to bless them with peace is part of all traditional Catholic cultures. In the Irish and German languages for example that is how you normally greet another person. Same for the Jewish people, same for Jesus. This is an acknowledged part of the Mass, reaffirmed by JP II and Benedict XVI. I will take my teaching from the Magisterium. May the peace of Christ be with you.

@@beautifulspirit7420 ......no, it was NEVER part of the Early Church.....you don't know or understand the things that have effected the Church over the past 50+ years......go look up BELLA DODD, and get hold of the book INFILTRATION by Dr.Taylor Marshall, published just last year......and then the book AA-1025, published by www.tan.com and you'll start seeing the Church in a whole different light......I love the english Mass, but JESUS has stated to at least one visionary that "the Latin Mass is the Mass of His Heart".....why would you go anywhere else, knowing that ? the "kiss of peace", whether you realize it or not, GREATLY OFFENDS HIM......along with being received in the hand, and eucharistic ministers.......MANY practices gleefully carried on as being so "forward thinking", OFFEND HIM !!!! altar girls, for instance, women on the altar at ALL.......the Holy Souls have had MUCH to say about the current practices in the Church.....go get a copy of GET US OUT OF HERE by Nicky Eltz, available at www.catholicfreeshipping.com maybe THEY'LL give you a perspective (now that they're dead and SEE) that will turn your thinking around.......the kiss of peace, by the way, offends Our Lord because He has just been Consecrated, and we have TRADITIONALLY in the Church, spent those moments ADORING Our Lord, not slapping each other on the back, talking about our vacations with the grandkids, and other nonsense I've observed over the years......isn't satan clever....... but just for fun, since the ORTHODOX Churches can trace their heritage back to the APOSTLE who founded them, go attend a Greek Orthodox Mass and see if THEY'VE put a "kiss of peace" into their service, because ALL OF A SUDDEN !!! after 2,000 years, they all of a sudden remembered that it was part of the Mass of the Early Church ??.....IT WAS NOT......and the Greek Church HAS NOT put a "kiss of peace" into the Mass.....nor have any of the OTHER 27 Orthodox Churches that can trace their ancestry back to the apostles.....and if you read Bella Dodd, and AA-1025, ok, and INFILTRATION, maybe you'll finally Get It....... (do you REALLY believe that the overwhelming abundance of pedophiles and homosexuals in our priesthood "just happened" ? or it was a result of "celibacy" gone awry ? it was not.......but you'll need to do your reading to understand........)

ABSOLUTELY!!!

YES!!

Absolutely! The devil HATES silence

Absolutely!

Hymns are prayers.

Filipus Mikha Amen!

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

AMEN! EXACTLY! BINGO!

Amen

AMEN

yes! Amen

What our church does before Mass when they make the announcement before the celebrant comes in they tell people to please turn off their cell phones and no texting during mass that seems to work quite well just a suggestion that you could offer to your prieststo say

Amen

Amen!

The man in the middle is so legalistic! Stop being so critical! Not everyone is a good homilist. Women played an important role in the early church.

I have the same difficulty in my church Julie 😕

Pianos were not allowed pre V2

Can we quit with the congregational singing? Catholic congregations cannot carry a tune in a bucket.

Your comment is helpful to those who may not understand that clapping is inappropriate. We always had a nun playing an organ in the balcony, but that was years ago. I am not familiar with the clapping phenomenon and appreciate your thoughts to those who may be new or unaware.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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YES!...YES!...YES!... I totally agree with your comment. May God bless all of you.

Yes, 100%

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Yes. The pope is trying to keep up with the times to get more young people into the church. I believe there’s a way to and still keep the traditions we grew up with.

Changing verbiage of important prayers is killing me! Now there's talk of changing the Lord's Prayer to remove "lead us not into temptation " to something else because Jesus doesn't lead people to temptation....how did that become a thing? All it means is to guide us from temptation and deliver us from evil. That needs to stop because I won't change how I pray !

@@juliemccauslin5807 nobody says you have to. I’m not doing it either. I prefer the traditional way. I prefer the old traditions to the new. I think we should go back to women covering their heads. They look like doilies. The mass was more revenant back then. I know you have to change with the times to try and get young people to come but come on. Just like I prefer the apostles creed instead of the nicine creed. It’s got alot of verbiage in it that doesn’t need to be there.

@@Nancy-uc2tu I love the Apostles Creed!! I also agree with wearing head veils! Wonder how many of us are out there?

@@juliemccauslin5807 m

I also have urinary issues and there are times that I have to get up and take care of a medical issue.

So true, some people can be very critical and judgemental. Bless you.

Yes, that's something we need to consider out of charity. Not leaving Mass when urgent symptoms flare up can be disastrous, and much more embarrassing than leaving when the need arises. It's actually more considerate to leave than not to leave under those circumstances, and we should be thankful for those who are respectful enough to do so. We should also pray for them -- those kinds of physical conditions are miserable and often hard to control. I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

@@jrnfw4060 Thank you for understanding.

The conversation about people leaving early isn't meant for those who have emergencies but for those who make a practice of running out every time they attend.

When that happens to me I assume it's cause those people need my prayers

I could not agree more.

I agree. I’m starting to venture out and am going to start attending mass at pre Vatican 2 churches in my area. I want the old cathedral type of experience during mass. One thing about hearing all the chatter before mass though is that it allows me to pray for those people and their problems especially if they are complaining about their lives or even gossiping. I’ll just start praying for them. I get there early and while it’s quiet, I meditate and when it starts filling up with the talkers, I’ll start praying for them. Or the screaming, crying kids. I always pray for God to make them Saints.

I love that the priest here mentioned how he plays Gregorian chants before mass. That’s excellent!

Don’t worry. When we say the prayer in the beginning of mass…I confess to almighty God and to you my brothers and sisters that I have sinned through my own fault…it’s a prayer of confession and the priest adds to it afterwards and we are all forgiven of our sins. Unless we have grave sin. Then we need to go to confession for sure.

I cringe at the sign of peace. One of the churches I frequent - the priest omits it (but I still see people smooching one another). Eww

They need to move it to the beginning not right before Communion.

And especially because people don't understand the intention. Don't wave your fingers at me. It's disrespectful. If you feel the sig of peace is important, do it directly after the priest reaches the altar, prior to the sign of the cross.

I ensure the 'line' I get into is with the actual Priest, and not the Deacon. I cannot take the sacrament yet, as not baptized yet, but when I can I shall with the Priest.

Have church sizes and populations increased? Making it seem like there were more people before?

We don’t need them.

Good question

Where in the Bible does it say you can't partake of communion unless you are baptized? Infant baptism is non Biblical ! Jesus was 30 years old upon baptism! Baptism is an act of obedience! It does NOT SAVE! BUT IT IS IMPORTANT!. I WAS BORN A CATHOLIC AND BAPTIZED AT 6 MONTHS! I became a Christian at 9 and was baptized upon understanding what baptism meant!! There is nothing in the Bible that prevents you from communion once you accept and ask Jesus into your heart! That is the ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN, NOT ALL THIS MAN MADE RITUALS!!

I dont like singing during communion. Sometimes a quiet piano piece is played and that is beautiful.

If you've got distracted when praying, then you're not praying well. Don't criticized the choirs singing in communion. They're singing for the congregations who queueing and receiving the communion. Communion hymns are part of the mass.

They continue to play the same hymn we sang as we took Eucharist. I can’t say I never get distracted from my prayer, but not always. I’d rather have that song in my head than whatever my husband played on his radio start running through my head as I’m trying to pray.

I am with you there.

Hymns during mass coincide with movement of multiple people. Processing, presentation of gifts, communion and recession. It's to help cover the distraction of the noise made by this shuffling around. As a music minister, I do respect the desire of the parishioners to pray after receiving the Holy Eucharist. More meditative hymns should be sung during this time. The purpose of the ministry is to enrich the mass not be a distraction. The Holy Bible does multiply reference God wanting us to worship Him in song but reverence in musical selections is important as well.

Teresa Baker-Carl just go to the original Latin mass...you won’t see that there..I grow closer to our Lord during the high sung mass.

Follow the rubrics at all times. Please. why do the priests leave the Sanctuary for his homily..

I second that ...clapping has to go! This is not a concert or a community meeting. Mass is about God. No saying hi or introducing yourself to the people next to before mass either!....do it outside church!

Wow! So true i hate it too.

So the priest announces birthdays and such? Thankfully I’ve never seen that but I attend a Latin Mass 95% of the time.

Yes, it's true about Jesus in the Eucharist but the Word of God is of EQUAL importance. Shouldn't we want to understand His Word and the unpacking of the Gospel message and all readings.

Jennifer C RN yes the word is important too but learning the bible can be done in classes at church. I love a great homily like everybody else but I am there for the liturgy. I pray for the Holy Spirit to speak thru the Priest to those that need it most right before and during the homily.

Not true.

Respectfully disagree with the statement that the reason we go to mass is to receive Jesus.(i.e. Eucharist). The reason we go to Mass is to worship God on high through the highest form available to human beings provided to us by Christ's Sacrifice. We enter into that sacrifice to worship Almighty God. Receiving the body, blood, soul and divinity of our Lord to be nourished is the second reason.(provided we are in a state of grace)

The sign of peace is recognizing our Christian unity and commitment to one another. Jesus said "peace, my peace I give you." We just echo his words. However, the orans position (hands out with palms up) is not prescribed when praying the Our Father. Hands folded in prayer is the only proper position. Check the Rubrics. It spells out how to celebrate mass, there is adlibbing. FOLLOW THE RULES

​@@georgemoomaw2244- I read somewhere recently that the act of holding your arms out with your palms up is only supposed to be done by the priest. God bless!

Well said😊

Phenomenal. Love it

That is brilliant! 🤣

​@@Roman-Labradorexactly...i would not attend that church again after that.

LOL, I bet some were lying and stayed to avoid being caught publicly, so I should not laugh! Just ask them to be respectful and stay until the end!

@@isantiago1355 I grew up with my older siblings in soccer jerseys at church because there was a game. We left right after communion many times to make the game. This priest is an ass in my opinion.

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German Nazis have infiltrated church Pope Benedict was one...10 is German Nazi age of accountability...likely was boasting to Nazi attendees they can count on him for their war movement.

No talking in church before mass and after . Wait till you get outside

@@ral3190 Two elderly women sitting two rows behind me talked and laughed constantly before mass, so I couldn't concentrate on my absolution or saying the Divine Mercy chaplet, which I like to say before mass. The nuns told us in Catholic school it was a sin to talk in church. One church I went to had a sign saying no talking, to show consideration for people who were praying.

The one time people clapped at my parish was when our priest rightfully called out our supposedly Catholic governor for supporting abortion. Yes, I know it isn’t necessarily right to clap but so many priests are afraid to call out evil and hypocrisy when they see it.

Who are you with when the Cantor is singing ?

and he was referring to the TLM

Chris McWilliams Is the Tabernacle at your church not in the center? It doesn't seem right to me, ours is right in the center underneath the Crucifix of our Lord. I like it because you can see it from all over the church. That really should be the standard, our priests sit to the side, they aren't the focal point God is. We have bells too, I wonder if its only in certain parts of the country we see this. I live in N.C. our church is wonderful, and it has grown significantly. It helps we have wonderful priests. God Bless, I will continue to pray for all our Catholic Churches.

Our Tabernacle is centered on the High Altar right below the Crucifix as it should be in a Traditional Catholic Church.

Churches with the tabernacle in the center are rare. Vatican 2 changed it to the side slter

I like the bells, they've been rung for centuries. The standard seems to be one ring at the epiclesis, three rings during the elevation of body, and three rings during the elevation of blood.

Chris McWilliams I am coverting to Orthodox, the bells are run during Divine Liturgy. It is incredible!

Maybe Covid helped get rid of a couple of these bad practices.

Communion in the hand-it is Our Lord, not a cracker!

Not donating /offertory is a nonsense claim. I donate online so I pass the basket on at mass. Someone judgmental (ahem…) might think I did not give an offering. False witness anyone? I prefer it my way because I have always had a problem with handling cash during mass. It reminds me of the moneychangers in the temple. The rest of it I sort of agree with but taking the Host on the tongue and sharing the chalice spreads disease, as does hand shaking, so deal with it. Lastly: when the consecrated hosts have been removed from the sepulcher (it’s not a tabernacle) for the mass, then genuflection and bowing is directed towards the altar, as we are venerating the body and blood of Christ, not the box it was stored in.

Thank you! Even at 1.5 speed I couldn't watch the whole thing.

@@pattiday431 leaving the Synagogue of Satan will get rid of al these bad practices.

I agree on the time element. Consider staying after mass for a bit.

Then sit up front so you get the host very early and have lots of time to pray.

according to the Church, it is actually a venial sin to talk in Church, and can become a MORTAL sin, if you, the talker, get pissed off at the person asking you to be quiet and respectful......I had one woman threaten to punch me in the face for asking her to be quiet and stop talking.......go figure.....

Amen! I’m in the choir and I’ve always believed in staying until the last song is finished! But people race out of there as soon as the procession ends. Very disrespectful. What’s the darn hurry?

where is you christian compassion? who knows what that mother is going through, or her boys. Ar least they were there. Keep your nose out unless you have walked in her shoes.

@@LisaGemini I once saw a priest put up a notice in big letters by the exit door of his church which said 'Judas also left early'. Everyone in the congregation stayed till he left the sanctuary!

@@tomstenzel4271 ........you know, Tom, I've witnessed and HEARD more screaming children behaving badly whose parents do absolutely NOTHING to address their child's behavior, so don't play that "christian compassion" card........same people, same kids, each week.......and even the priest says nothing from the pulpit to address the issue.....and this goes on even in the "quiet rooms"........so, REALLY ?!!! you must be deaf, or you don't attend Mass very often, if you think that interrupting the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with screaming kids, and kids running up and down the aisles, is ok......and should just. be. tolerated. I say absolutely NOT.......I'm old enough that I've gone through several generations of young people becoming parents, and apparently, ones who have no clue as to how to conduct even THEMSELVES at Mass, let alone their children......I'm remembering one young man about 30 yrs old, who came running down the aisle and lept 2 ft up in the air and came landing down in front of a child, to apparently make the child laugh......and THIS was in a funeral Mass !!! and I'm sorry, but I certainly DID correct him after the service was over.......so maybe YOU'RE the one who needs to correct their thinking in this matter, NOT this young lady......and why in the world would you believe for one minute that this mother should have just let her children continue to mock the deaf interpreter ?!!! what ? do you think the interpreter didn't notice and feel bad ? maybe Holy Mass means nothing to you......maybe Holy Mass doesn't mean ENOUGH to these parents that let this go on........

Hundred percent, this!!! It's frustrating to me that our Pope wants to limit the practice of the TLM.

Absolutely! The Novus Ordo is jarring to one's sense of faith when you have to go back to it on occasion. I can no longer cope with the utter disrespect of Our Lord found in the vast majority of NO Masses.

​@@Climbing_Carmel_TODC that shows a problem on you if you think the problem is the ordinary form that you want to go back to a lack of readings, and think that liturgical problems didn't exist before the 60s.

What is TLM? Asking for those who don’t know. I’m a converted Catholic

@@Frantz3M Traditional Latin Mass.

Ya know... I'm seriously tempted to do this on all exit points of my parish, myself... ;)

@Jake Tappert No. But that could easily be a difference of parishes. I tend to go to mass in the city so it's alot of childless people leaving before the mass is done.

@Jake Tappert I would certainly rather people make it to mass than not go at all. Even if that means leaving early or not dressing as nice as some would like. I'm not one to judge, just meerly pointing out that it's not just people with children leaving early.

@Jake Tappert ......NO.

I love your son's guitar playing.

don't be sorry

So what if they’re lay and that’s the calling

100% it's the priest job. along with the readings.

they're preaching? I don't hear any preaching going on here. I hear a discussion going on about mass but I do not hear any preaching going on.

What if it were Peter Kreeft up there?

And the rest of the time?

Imagine that, it was the standard since Trent, but somehow now it's a problem?

I am hoping and praying it leads to Tridentine Mass in the near future.

How large is your parish? And do the Communion Minister distribute at the rail as well?

Tristan Paul The parish is very large. Only priest gives out Communion at the rail along with deacon. Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion are used at the back of church where people still receive standing.

@@janeremillard4571 2 at the rail for about 500 people? How fast does it take?

It’s still exists if you go to a traditional Latin mass I just started going and it is a world of difference there’s even a dress code and everyone dresses up!!

I make it a point to dress up a bit for Mass, not to show off, but because I feel I should present myself in the best possible light before God. As one parishioner has pointed out, if you won't dress up for God, you won't dress up for anyone. That's a bit of a radical judgment, but I get her point. God loves us all, and He will love those who show up in jeans, T-shirts, flip-flops, etc., but I just feel, for myself, that I should give Him more. Also, I was raised in the 1950s, prior to Vatican II, and everyone dressed in their Sunday best for Mass, and I like to continue that tradition.

I see the same at my church in FL. I 100% agree with dressing appropriately for mass, not flip-flops, bare midriffs, shorts and the like. I know Jesus looks at the heart, not the clothing, but would these wearing casual clothes dress that way if they were going to the White House to meet the President? They're going to God's house to worship Him, so clean up and dress appropriately.

All through my childhood we had 'Sunday clothes' - which you changed out of straight after Mass - but at evening Masses in the Cathedral there were men coming in from shift work and far from 'smartly dressed' - but they were there - Jesus called them and they came - how could that be anything but what He wanted?

I remember my dad saying once, "If you were going to the President's house you'd wear your best clothes. You're going to God's house when you go to mass."

I thought people chewing gum was going to be one of the 15 things...

I don’t think Jesus cares if you are chewing gum, or with hands in pockets. He was against ceremony. It’s in the word.

Walking With Purpose is excellent. I am so grateful for Lisa and her studies, definitely has brought me closer to my catholic faith.

The gum chewing is awful. Since we believe we are receiving Jesus, it's extremely disrespectful. Do you think He wants to share your mouth with a wad of gum? He is then chewed into that gum!

@@PJPeterson-x1u You don’t understand the Eucharist then. It’s the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. Not to be taken lightly but with reverence. Chewing gum is not reverent.

Our parish is thriving despite an overly casual standard of clothing and a decline in religious affiliation in our region. Our music is so polished and well known that it attracts both new worshipers and many nonCatholic music lovers. Our liturgy …including the big team of trained, robed, well groomed, highly efficient servers…of both sexes…can serve a packed house in about 10 minutes, so that the big crowd at the next mass …2 hours later…can get in. Our ONE priest…loved by Catholics and the entire city…is famous for short, Scriptural homilies. A troubled, disheveled person seeking communion would have a companion on his walk to the altar…a trained mental health RN who has worked in the locked ward at the public hospital for 30 years. And you want to keep girls away from the serving team..

Any time I have heard applause has been for a homily that touched the hearts and minds of the faithful . I believe that such homilies are are given to us by the Holy Spirit via the priests and his willingness and openness to the Holy Spirit. I taught 8th grade in a catholic school and many times I was amazed by the words I used to explained various points to my students. Never did I think I was wise, but rather blessed by the Holy Spirit to teach these precious teens in a way they could understand & hopefully carry with the throughout their lives.

Mine does too

Mine as well. I love it 🥰

That is terrible! Does he think the church is his own personal playground 🙄

@@BigOldCatholic I don't think he liked a young woman alerting him to the truth when he is supposed to be leading. And as a woman who has experienced sexual assault multiple times, this experience was terrifying for me.

When will people stop praying to anyone but GOD? Totally UNBIBLICAL!!

@@cherylrawlings8875 So, for the 1.2 billionth time, Catholics do not pray to anyone but God. Catholics believe that those who are already in Heaven can also converse directly to God. So just like many non-Catholics do here on Earth, we ask for our fellow believers to pray for us. We just believe that those in Heaven can also pray for us too. And who better than Jesus' own Mother, who he had a special relationship with. And we also believe in the Biblical concept of the Gebirah, the Queen Mother, a Jewish tradition that the mother of the King held a very special position in the court. And that his mother - the Queen Mother or Gebirah, still holds this position in the Eternal court of heaven. So, please STOP with the "Catholics" pray to Mary. Cause that's not what they do - intercession of Saints (those already in heaven) is just another way of asking people (dead people) to pray for you.

I totally agree

@@cherylrawlings8875 BTW rosary is not praying to Mary but Praying with Mary to Christ. Or through Mary to Jesus Christ.

@@cherylrawlings8875 wrong dumb dumb. The Catholic Church put the Bible together so I think we know better. The book of Revelation shows the saints worshipping God, singing hymns, playing instruments, making requests to Christ to avenge their martyrdom, and offering prayers for the saints on earth (Rev. 4:10, 5:8, 6:9-11). In a dream, God commanded King Abimelech to ask Abraham to intercede for him: “For [Abraham] is a prophet and he will pray for you, so you shall live” (Gen. 20:7). When the Lord is angry with Job’s friends because they did not speak rightly about God, he tells them, “Let my servant Job pray for you because I will accept his [prayer], lest I make a terror on you” (Job 42:8). James says: “Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects” (James 5:16-17). Thus, according to Scripture, God wants us to pray for one another. This must mean that prayer for one another cannot detract from the role of Jesus Christ as our one mediator with God. Try to not be so stupid. It is annoying.

That's a good one. There may be more than just 15, anyway it's hard to put them all in order of importance but personally, taking communion not being in God's grace or having mortal sin is on top. The issue is, not all Catholics know if they're in mortal sin. And I somehow see too many especially the kids receiving the host as just part of the drill. Our church is not big on Bible Studies unlike the protestants and .most especially the born agains. The study of our faith is left to our discretions.

We had that in a church in Florida, the homily was printed out and handed out before mass an d the priest with african accent read it at homily.

What about chewing gum in church and then still chewing after communion

It's very sad to see how our Faith is being taken from us by our current Pope. The changes that are being made is not true Dogma

I agree. I try to get to Mass a half-hour before, so I can pray the rosary, and other prayers to get ready for Mass. The commotion caused by people chatting, coming in and going out is a huge distraction.

@SalKnight686 I can't think of a better place to pray the rosary than in front of the Tabernacle, with Jesus inside it--except at adoration with Him in the monstrance. I always sit in the front pew so I can be closer to Him and all the distractions are behind me.

I come to mass 30 minutes early and I put in my earbuds and listen to Gregorian Chant and pray silently. It's so crucial to be in the proper frame of mind and to be prepared spiritually for mass.

Big time. I close my eyes.. which helps

@@jeffscully1347 Indeed. Even during adoration people will visit and chitter chatter. Don't they realize why they're there.

Knelt

People who go to the latin mass are being disobedient to the Holy Spirit.

@@Anon.5216 How so?

Those who have received baptism and confirmation can distributed the consecrated bread and wine.

Same. I only receive from the priest

When our priest is away on a spiritual retreat or vacation, we have a retired priest for daily and Sunday Masses. At the end of his stay with us, after the last Mass. we do applaud. Many of us also meet with him outside and thank him personally noting a particular homily for example that touched us.

and also with you!1

jlwatson30 Always makes me cringe.

jlwatson30 ugh this is the worst!

Amen!!!

My priest encourages it. Especially during confession mass. Hands up my children

Exactly.. thank GOD for the TLM

Not a matter of introversion or extroversion- the sign of peace breaks the solemnity of the mass at the worst possible time. I see people chattering, fist bumping, high fiving, and getting further away from the meaning of mass.

I'm an introvert, but I appreciate that, properly understood, the liturgical sign is truly a good thing, one that I've come to appreciate and even look forward to at Mass. It is a sign of unity, Christ asking all to give and receive, reconcile and offer his perfect Peace before receiving his gift of himself. Additionally we pray the OUR Father. Christ asks the introvert to stretch himself this one tiny bit.

You will be at peace at the Traditional Latin Mass. None of that nonsense!

​@@saintsamaritan I go to a Tridentine parish so we are lucky to practiice the old Traditions. When I used to go to new age Mass I refused to shake or hold hands. Instead I would just smile with my hands folded and say .....May GOD bless you ! I am an introvert.

I hear you and agree! I will always switch aisles if I find myself in a row without a priest or deacon. I have never received Holy Communion from a lay person.

1907jdee Lay Eucharist Ministers needs to go the way of the Dodo Bird! When I was an alter boy in the 70’s the Priest came out of the sacristy and handed out communion! Even Deacons weren’t allowed to hand out the Eucharist only Priests! Today it 10 Eucharistic ministers 1 Priest and 1 Deacon. Also communion in the hand is an abomination! Put the rails back up get on your knees and receive your King! We need to go back to Traditional Catholic worship if we want the Church to rise again!

Exactly....and on the tongue too!! Why must i receive our lOrd from a EM on my tongue

@@anthonypicano1670 Now you get Communion from some teenage girl in cut off jeans. With the priest dressed as a clown.

I’m not receiving the host from a lay person only the priest & kneeling when I take my first communion

Should only be soft organ music, chant or silence during communion and for at least 5 min after; for contemplation and prayer.

no talking at TLM

Yes!

and people don't tend to know this, but it's a VENIAL SIN to talk in Church, and can become a MORTAL SIN, if, perhaps, like what happened to me, a person threatens to PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE if you ask them to stop talking again because they're interrupting your prayers, and OFFENDING Our Lord in the Holy Tabernacle.......

That I live with my whole life. I just quietly wave or drop a quietly polite "hello" "hi"

Or TLM!

Any of the traditional forms is a game changer

I cannot believe that Pope Pops pro claimed that Mary was the coredeemer of the faith. This is terrible theology. Mary's last days were spent on irag or Iran. Her final home is on a tour when you travel there. It is a small humble house and she lived there. She was not taken up to heaven as co_redemtrist. She was a very young Jewish girl when she had Jesus. The Catholic church portrays her as a taller blonde Scandinavian usually in blue. Her baby looks fair, with blue eyes and a Scandinavian look. Get real. She was probably short dark curly hair and Jesus probably looked similar. Saying the rosary over and over seems to comfort many people. Jesus is the one and only redeemer of the world Mary is not. The bible speaks about vain reposition. This is a real example of that. I meant reposition. The church, over the years has set up many things that are man made and not appropriate. Many people seem to need these things like small children need stuffed animals. Use your own brain and think for yourself. I have gone on too long. Be a Christian, but think for your self. This could change your life and your faith. Bruce

I must say I agree with you. As a student of Medieval Sudies I was invited by my professor to the Orthodox Church. I witnessed, was part of and appreciatef the solemnity. I wonder if the standing for the entire Service largely contributes to the focus, silence and solemnity. Standing; comfort is miniscule and discourages conversation and other"freeness"!

If I had a traditional Mass in my area I'd go in a New York minute.

That is one of my main distractions since I moved from a Carmelite church in CA to Las Cruces New Mexico. Even the sign of peace is a major social activity with people that will walk around the church to loudly greet family & friends.

Another loud distraction is when most of the congregation is slamming the kneelers up & down for every movement & your foot gets fractured from the kneeler dropped on it without a care for the other person sharing the kneeler.

Bingo!

Same equivalent as Fr Ritsh of the Catholic talk show!!! 😀

Yep, the masses where there is a rail always seem to be far more efficient when it comes to communion than those without. And more reverent too.

I think we've opened the sacrament to scandal and sacrilege in its current form. If you go to a Latin mass 20 min is normal and there's no possibility for sacrileges because no one can take Jesus home in their hand or drop him by accident. Kids prefer it as well. At least mine do. We sit in the front and it's weird having everyone bump you walking by when your praying

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Kimberly Riddell Read Hebrews Chapter 8. The NT teaches the true tabernacle is in heaven. That’s what Jesus, Peter, and Paul all understood.

Gospel Nomad Girl try reading the Early Church Fathers. There is one church one faith one Baptism

Kimberly Riddell Sweetheart, I have. You are quoting a Bible verse. And that is our standard of testing all doctrine and truth. So since there is just one church, one faith, one baptism. May want to get back to the OT and NT and the teachings of the apostles. The church -ekklesia- means the called out ones. Called out of darkness and into light. Called into salvation. The Jews weren’t saved just because they were “sons of Abraham”, they still had to accept Christ and get baptized. Neither is one a Christian simply because they claim to be. The church isn’t a structure. The church visible-is a Catholic idea. It’s the Holy Spirit who lives inside of us into which Jesus is building us into a temple of living stones and He is the chief cornerstone, Head of the Church, and High Priest in Heaven. And the baptism of the apostles. The Bible teaches a parent can bring the baby to the church to be dedicated to the Lord, like Mary and Joseph dedicated Jesus as a baby. But in order to be baptized, one needed to be hear the gospel, repent of sin, accept Christ as their own Savior, and be baptized. The word for baptism literally means to immerse. Why? Because we are baptized into His death and resurrected to new life. The water is a symbol of the grave. So no babies, no sprinkling.

YESSSSSS!!!!!

AMEN Kimberly. . The holy sacrifice of the Mass. Thats why I love the Old latin mass. One felt close to God. Now its hells bells! Catholics must be re-taught about our faith.

I second that one!

No leggings, yoga pants please

1 When at Mass your conscious is invoking the Holy Spirit .Clapping is breaking your conscious contact with God .At the end of the Mass its okay to clap and celebrate Childrens First Communion etc.The Church is for praying not talking .A regular update on what is happening with the money be open about it .What the Priest does with his money thats his own business .Its not a good idea to shake hands peace be with you when the flu is about .We should be told to cross our hands and just say the words .When giving a Sermon relate the meaning of the Old and NewTestament and Gospel .Teach us how to handle resentments ,Teach us how to pray .Teach us its okay to be angry ,Teach us about grief .Teach us about how we get to heaven .Teach us to live with our bad relatives .Teach us how to defend our faith with all these sex problems the Church is having .Bring the bible into peoples lives in a practical way.Teach People to pray in the Church in silence .In the case of alcohol and drug addiction refer them to medical profession and you will pray for them daily .Have a member of the Church in the front office so the Church can be open for people to pray in through the day .These are just a few suggestions .I would like for Priests to study Psychology so they can seperate the Medical Problem from a Religious Problem and guide the faithful to pray daily if they can when they have these problems .Try not to fix the world but try and help Catholics who are having a hard time money ,abortion ,alcohol and drug problems within the family ,Catholics with disfunctional families .Familes that cant afford to go to Catholic Schools ,The Priest may need to refer these people to Catholic Professionals .The Priest is the Shepard we are sheep when one is lost he goes and looks for us .I love going to the Mass and the Church to pray its the greatest gift we have in our lives .

Oh yes that's a big one!

I see young girls with low cut blouses and extremely short dresses. The priest can't miss seeing down her blouse. I would like to see the priest deny communion. That is the only way to take a stand.

Amen, sister.😊

Thank you I really appreciate it for your support

beat your children into submission?

I remember a man who went to the priest after mass and complained to him about the lady saying how scantily she was dressed, she had a mini, etc. Then the priest said to him "And you did not move"?

Oh boy, wait till you got home? I don't think fear should dictate our faith life. But it does explain why some older women look like they want to beat my children if they dare make a sound or move during Mass. I mean, it's how they were raised, has to be okay, I guess?

it shouldnt happen maybe he needed someone to hold him up

That priest is horrible

You obviously don't understand the deeper meaning of the kiss of peace.

I refuse to touch strangers hands that I just saw cough or sneeze into them moments before. I’m a nurse and I will smile politely , nod and then look away.

@@maryandersen5176 then you go right ahead then.

There is a new rise of respect and recognition of the presence of Jesus, in the Body of Christ ✝️ within the Catholic Church.

So do I. Hands together. Head down. Eyes closed.

When flus are killing people, keep your hands to yourself.

When did the holding hand thing become a thing? Growing up in the 70's, 80's no hand holding and pretty sure in the 90's. Also, say it, don't sing it...

Lulu Ladybug same!

@@alhilford2345 I do the same linked my hands in prayer and keeping my head down and then looking up slightly and once my parents looked at me questionably

v2 happened 60 years ago. For 60 years the US churches have celebrated English Mass not traditional Latin Mass. Latin Mass required nothing of the people attending. V2 Mass instills participation of those attending Mass. We are encouraged to sing with the chior rather than being entertained by the chior. We are asked to participate in the consecration of the body blood of Christ rather than simply standing, sitting, kneeling

I'll agree to that, but I'm not receiving communion on the tongue from a lay person.

Yes you are correct. It plays on my conscience. But at the same time the early Church received in the hand and secondly I would rather receive in the hand because of hygienic reason, that is why I dont drink off the blood.

Actually the early Church did receive in the hand, BUT they did so with a veil over their hands as to not touch the Eucharist with their hands. Big difference...

@@jazzg373 So lets have the veil over the hand and not on the tongue. I think the veil was because of the lack of showers in the old days.

Plus I recently listened to a talk with Dr. Taylor Marshall where they reviewed the actual transcripts from the exorcism that the movie the Exorcism of Emily Rose is based on a d a demon that spoke to the priest said the he, meaning the demon was responsible for the receiving of communion in the hand.

so when do you tell the congregation whats happening in the community in coming weeks?

@@emtedee985 after mass

@@emtedee985 and the bulletin

Before Mass or between the Liturgy Of The Word and the Canon would be good, I think. It is a problem deserving serious consideration.

@@emtedee985 Evidently never according to Traditionalists.

That is very true I used to have a addiction problem before I met my wife. I used to drink alcohol From send up to sundown on Friday nights after . Now go to AA And God help me do we become that.

No kidding

I agree with this one. It really disrupts the special moment in prayer.

I think the 2nd collection should be abolished. I find it offensive & greedy. I gave up what I could the first time!

Amen! I once at our Cathedral, asked a deacon on his way out to usher outside a bunch of people talking loudly in the narthex. Some of us were trying to quietly worship our Lord and they're laughter was really grating on my nerves. Ignorance and disrespect like this needs to stop.

How about talking through Mass. Before during and after. Or reading a novel throughout the Latino Mass....by Latino women !🤯. Nope not kidding. My son always ended up serving that Mass because no one else would do it. He often lectored and served because the adults never showed up. There were zero Latino boys serving, no adult men serving in any capacity. Plenty of Latinos in the pews though. When we found a Latin Mass about 30 minutes away my son was happy to leave the NO. Not because of the Latino Mass, he would NEVER "leave Fr swinging". He was so pleased at the reverence, communion at the altar. Proper dress,. The families and the father's teaching the tiny kids to genuflect and cross themselves....

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think shaking hands started in the 70's, with the new mass.

*altar

@@trishahukins9343 Thanks. Won't make that mistake again.

AMEN!!!

Find a Latin Mass

I miss the old Mass too. Too casual now, and not reverent. And there is no Latin Mass near me, is there was I would go.

Two young men were talking behind me when I was trying to pray after receiving communion. And one was about to enter semitary to be a priest!!

Have you ever been to a Baptist church? At least they read the word of God, which is the Bible not some other book. I am amazed at how little Catholics really know of the scripture. That was a really ugly thing to say. Perhaps you should go to confession.

@@Rileygirl746you do realize the Bible is read from at every Catholic Mass, and that the Bible itself is a construct of the Catholic Church, yes? Or have you never been to a Catholic Mass and therefore are just making incorrect assumptions?

​@@Rileygirl746no

Amen

A priest at our parish used to speak of tithing and giving consists of time, talent, and treasure. You give of what you have, not what you don’t have. He explained it more extensively, but the message is people give in different ways and all are needed included those who can only give prayer. Think when something bad happens to us, the first thing we think of is to ask for prayer. I wish you lived near me, we could trade our goods

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God bless and keep you and your generations.

If that happened in front of me, i ll throw my heels direct to her

I absolutely do not want a lay man to preach to me and mine .. only a Priest and Deacon have that authority.

@@roseluz1765 simply and respectfully give your pastor a copy of canon law listed in GIRM, which requires that a homily can only be given by a priest or deacon.

langebrenda I think the priest should be the only one to give the homily. He is the one to tie the Epistles and Gospels together , the Old and New Testaments. It is an opportunity to teach. I think the retired Priests would be happy to mentor and share their homilies

I've never seen a lay person give a homily. Ever. Where does this happen at