The Williams was the FW08B not the 07D, and the Brabham was the BT46B, not 26B. There's also another 6 wheeler that's always overlooked, built by March before they were banned.
You're both right. Williams' first 6 wheeler actually was FW07D (shown at 10.18) as driven by Alan Jones at Donington on his way back to Australia after the end of the 1981 season. This gave promising results so Patrick Head designed FW08 to accommodate FW07D's rear end hence FW08B which was intended to be their '83 car until ground effect was banned (along with 6 wheelers) at the end of '82. The whole point of the concept was to allow more space for uninterrupted venturis/diffuser without the wide rear wheels/tyres getting the way plus to reduce the frontal area of the tall, wide rear wheels/tyres. The trade-off was the extra weight of the transmission, rear suspension & 4 wheels/tyres which is why FW08 in 4 wheel guise was so light it had to be heavily ballasted. March's 771 2-4-0 was all about the frontal area as well as traction and could have worked very well if the expensive transmission case hadn't been changed at the design stage to make it cheaper but weaker. In fact it failed during its first test. When March demonstrated it at a wet Silverstone the press were amazed at the lack of wheelspin. Fact is the rear most wheels were not driven and driver Howden Ganley had been told to go easy on the throttle to avoid wheelspin! If two rear wheels spun and two didn't, it wouldn't look so good!
@@Hermanos22 in 95% of motorsports the car/bike/truck/horse wouldn't explode anywhere near as violenty as Grosjean's did. And in other categories there is room in the cockpit , in f1 there is none.
@@Hermanos22 also a "windshield" capable of withstand the forces that a halo does (ex: Leclercs debut season) would warp the visual field of the driver. I think redbull did some testing some years ago with a windshield without rooftop (because safety)
@@eltipopiku INDYCAR bought the desing of Redbull for their series. So it eventually got in to use. It has some flaws other than field of view, like heat. Indycars produce an immence heat inside of the cockpit because of the lack of wind
Gotta love it when they show an "F1 concept car" that literally has the Formula E logo plastered everywhere. Even better is when they acknowledge that it's known as the "Formula E concept" as if Formula E and Formula 1 aren't completely different series.
@@chaoticmoron-zl6nv not likely. Formula E has the exclusive rights to electric racing til 2039 with the FIA so electric F1 cars are not coming until then if at all.
Closed cockpits could save many lives, BUT it would also slow the driver escaping the car if there was a fire, incident, etc. or even blocking the driver inside.
That's why the halo is by far the best compromise, ugly though it may be. All the benefits of a cockpit keeping things away from the driver, but without the risk of leaving them trapped in the car in the event the car itself becomes hazardous
At the beginning, they said that Mclaren has been struggling for some time. I feel that the team has been on an upward slope and they have been getting better ever since 2019.
Please watch some old f1 races with Tyrrell racing. You'll find it's pronounce Ti (as in tic) and rell (almost sounds like rull) so ti-rull otherwise ecxelent concepts
They really should do an F1 Concept Racing series... The only 'rules' are the power-plant (no more than 1.5l, must be totally 'green' etc) and of course comply to ALL safety requirements. The innovations that would come from this sector and potentially filter down would be incredible. ABS for example came from F1 but now with so many rules, restrictions etc, its hardly the pinnacle of innovation...
Anti skid systems were widely used already in the '50s to slow down safely big airplanes without burning out brakes and tyres. The Concorde at the end of the '60s developed it as a fully electronic one. Modern concept of ABS was invented in 1971 at FIAT Research Center , and then sold to Bosch. In F1 ABS appeared and used in 1993 with Williams.
@@archwaldo Already have that - its called video games and they do have a 'few' racing 'eSports' too. That is NOT the same as actually being in the car, actually pushing yourself to go as 'fast' as you dare knowing that a mistake could leave you in hospital. Cyber racing is so far away from the same thing. Real racing is about more than just the 'Driver', its about the machines too - the technical expertise of the team to extract performance and design the aero, to push the limits of of both man & machine. In Cyber space, nothing really matters. The weather is 'fake', as is wind or gravity - its all 'fake' - just the way its 'coded'.
ok, F1 didn't start with a formula but it gained one after it got so dangerous people were dying. This has already been tried, but alas i guess will never happen again because of safety. People are crazy.
@@BAMozzy69 shows what little you know about simracing. Fist and foremost most aero concepts are put through rigorous simulations, on computers, in a virtual (cyber) algorithm. These simulations are highly realistic and useful for testing experimental designs without wasting tens of thousands making models. That said, actual simracing games like iracing are extremely realistic and many drivers use simracing games to practice during off season. Things like the weather might be simulated, but track temps and ambient temps definitely affect how the car handles. Not only that anything that can be adjusted in reality can be adjusted in a good simracer from brake bias to tire psi and even camber/caster and gear ratios. Things like tire & engine temps matter for optimum performance, the realism goes on and on. I'm not talking about Need for Speed or Forza games either. Those are arcade games. There are several simulation racing games with pretty damn realistic physics dude. You must live under a fucking rock..
why do F1 cars need to be electric?? I understand and support that regular cars need to be electric but a F1 which only used on track its a little stupid
While the Tyrrell P34 is the most widely known six-wheeled F1 car, it was not the only one. The March Engineering, Williams and Scuderia Ferrari teams also built experimental six-wheeled F1 chassis, however all of these had four wheels at the back rather than at the front like the P34. The Williams FW07D and FW08B, and the March 2-4-0, had tandem rear wheels, which reduced drag by using the smaller front wheels and tyres in place of the typical larger rear wheels. The Ferrari 312T6 featured the four rear wheels on a single axle. This was similar to how Auto Union increased traction with its Type-D Grand Prix cars in the 1930s. -> video of a Type D... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m0aPekqm2Do.html
Newey did the X1 concept first in 2010 on GT5, not 2014. Also the stats are much more insane than stated in this video the X2010 was capable of over 300mph. And could lap the nurburgring in under 5minutes
That X2010 Challenge is so hard, especially with a controller, even with a steering wheel rig I've heard it's pretty tough! It's pretty much the first car in the series I haven't been able to get to grips with yet, although, I haven't really taken the time out to do so... And I've seen around 3:30 on Nordschleife! It is insane! It's not cartoonishly fast, that would make it slower than it actually is!
"Haven't been performing well in recent years" Are you high? 3rd overall is fantastic Edit: "Ferrari is the team everyone strives to beat" yeah... Probably in recent years too, right? Edit 2: "Only the world's largest car manufacturers can afford F1" Ahh yes, I love the McLaren Hatchbacks Edit 3: "Increasing calls for closed cockpits to increase safety" No. It was either closed cockpits or Halos and the Halos won, mostly because they are safer. Its more difficult to climb out of a flipped F1 car with a closed cockpit Edit 4: "Most people say closed cockpits will be a requirement soon" No, stop saying that Edit 5: "People say closed cockpits would take away from the excitement but if its safer..." It isn't Edit 6: Fixed the bloody edit numbers
Yeah, like a demon love child between a Formula (not F1) racer and a Le Mans Prototype, jus like the Red Bull X2010 first seen in Gran Turismo 5 and the predecessor to the X2014!
@@mr_pennason5329 Hmmm ... sort of. Not really though. Smaller tyres created less drag AT THAT TIME, AS A RESULT OF OTHER RULE STIPULATIONS IN THE FORMULA, without creating too much of a disadvantage in other areas, therefore making it beneficial. Four small tyres are NOT, in theory, better than two large tyres. There are NUMEROUS factors involved, and there are many disadvantages to having four small tyres, so whether or not they're 'better' depends on all sorts of things, but in the end it boils down to the rules and restrictions that are in place. Four front wheels happened to be better AT THAT TIME, but that does NOT mean it would be better now, or that it would have been better at any other time. The front wings are so small nowadays that the four small tyres wouldn't fit behind them completely - as they did on the P34 - so the advantage would not be as great as it was back then, and consequently wouldn't counterbalance all the complexities and disadvantages that come with having four front wheels. Like so many other innovations that have come and gone in F1, it was the right answer to the formula of the time.
I love how only showing the front of the car when you are talking about reducing dirty air I also love how some actual LMP concept cars showing in a F1 car concepts vedio And something I need to mention, open top cars with halo nowadays is far safer then the most of the close top concepts in the vedio, if F1 adapted close top design, Grosjean would've been barbequed and never going to have a chance to get out
Funny thing about the Sigma is that it sports the same colours that Ross Brawn chose for his team. You have to wonder if he thought of it when creating his team due to losing most of the sponsors of the previous team Honda.
i have had the good fortune to have worked within formula one some years back and a quick run through the design dept would make your eyes water and your heart pound. some of the best designs ever were drawn just for the fun of being able to design a concept car full of hopes and dreams. some of these designs may well be part of a future concept that might make it onto our roads or the race track!
Another thing is that the Red Bull is called the X2010 and it was Sony who approached Adrian Newey to design the car. Not to mention it was in GT5 and GT 6 is GT Sport🤦🏻♂️ back to the main point, Adrian Newey designed it without the idea for it to be implemented in F1, just what was asked of him for GT5
GT5 had the X2010, GT6 which was between GT5 and GT Sport came out in 2013 and updated the X2010 to the X2014. GT Sport had an update to the game in version 1.40 of the game that released an X2019. Likely the GT7 release in 2022 will have either an X2022 or X2023 at some point.
18:50 that's not true (partially) RedBull has been thinking up these "X" models since 2010, first being introduced by Gran Turismo 5 as the X2010. The X2011 model would then be made a DLC for Gran Turismo 5.
Grand Tourismo 5 had the x2010 and the x2011 prototype that was featured before GT6 was ever introduced. Both could do well over that speed with the x2011 having 1600+hp and the ability to top out at 311mph.
I tried the Junior in Gran Turismo 7 and was left feeling "what is this?"! Not as mental as its bigger, more insane siblings! It had no pace, that was its problem!
Now just to start off with number 15, why on earth would they make the fully electric F1 car just rear wheel drive when you have the option to get serparate motors for each wheel, giving you so much more control with all the tech
Having more than two powered wheels in f1 is banned. it also might make the car slower on the track because there would be electric motors on the front as well as larger front tyres which would reduce the potential of aerodynamics that could applied to the car. F1 cars get 95% of their handling from downforce aka aerodynamics. Having AWD might make it a little bit faster when the track is wet
Ferrari Sigma impression to me is a Kart with stretched front bumper and aerodynamic addition, longer wheel base, have a cockpit since the tyre is bigger than kart, and rear wing. It basically good replacement for karting imo
@@DubSun33 complaining about his pronunciation is like telling a baby they are a failure because they can’t engineer a race car. Teach him how first, then complain.
@@DubSun33 complain if someone knows better but intentionally does it wrong rather than complaining about someone doing something wrong that they never learned how to do right
The last car had a much earlier version in Gran Turismo 5. The first car was just called the Red Bull X1, later changed to X2010. Source: I was the fastest person in the US in these cars.
The mention of the red bull car brought back memories. Of my buddy and I going around the super long track just shaking and baking trying to push its limits
No it isn't. Not even close! The first syllable is NOT pronounced 'tier', and the 'e' is NOT pronounced as a 'u', it is pronounced as ... drum roll please ... an 'e'. Tyrrell is pronounced tih-rehl. SMH...
i might be wrong here but i always understood that 6 wheeled cars were not banned at first but the reason why the Williams 6 wheel car never raced was that it was 4 wheel drive which had been banned in F1 for some time , ever since the Lotus 56
Jamil Rza is right about trying to diffuse dirty air to make overtaking more easy. This is the main complaint of NASCAR in their last gen of cars, and why they designed a rear defuser under the car. While this caused porpoising on flats that is so bad, it's cars with flat tire being unable to come to pit under their own power, even going on the lower banked apron in a typical NASCAR track. But it's made the racing way better in that series.
I saw all these concepts on google before this video.. who knows what the future of F1 will look like personally i think the cars will still be powered by bio fuels not fully electric. Amazing descriptions keep up the good work
Closed cockpits are two safety hazards, getting out of a large crash with possible fires would become far more difficult, meanwhile it would also be dangerous for heat management, the drivers would not be able to breathe as the engine behind them would heat them up too much, today, helmets have holes on top to counter this overheating, and of course, the halo, which saved grosjean and leclerc in the 2020 Bahrain Grand Prix, and the 2018 Belgian Grand Prix respectively
The concept at 7:55 would actually create a lot of dirty air in of itself. With any corner of a trailing edge, a vortex will be formed. As such with all the elements and so on, it would create too much drag and make it difficult for cars to pass. Let alone all the lines that make it look streamlined which aren't subtle enough to really give the intended effect. It looks pretty cool but doesn't feel like F1
@@elijahchampaigne6753 yeah but not nearly the same. A lot of them are just have tons of bits to make them look aggressive and more appealing to kids. Personally i love the look of the 2022 car and the concepts because they all look simple and clean
