Cheese is such a beautiful thing! In Super Mario Maker 2, there are so many ways to cheese levels so I've made a list of the 15 most common ways to cheese a level, hope you enjoy!
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other things creators forget, Mario's maximum jump distance and height in each style with each power up, how to fly and keep flying in each version, and that you can reach the goal as soon as its in sight and they can jump off the skull raft or snake block they are on and just head to the goal often forgetting what Mario can and can not jump off of. People also forget that some times Mario can duck jump , craw or slide or roll threw a small space.
Just trying to bring items into places when you're clearly supposed to ditch them can result in some massive cheese. Also, if you get a flying powerup, try exploring EARLIER sections of the level. You might just get to keep it later on...
My all-time favorite cheese I've ever pulled off (this was in SMM1, so I don't know if it works with SMM2, since I don't have a switch.) The creator put a 2x2 gap of spikes after a clown car section so I couldn't pass with a clown car. However: they also put a P-Switch in a pipe from another section. So I grabbed an extra p-switch. I brought the P-switch to the section with the clown car. I used a bit of forward momentum to push the clown car into the gap of spikes. Then I crouch placed the P-switch in front of the clown car, which pushes the clown car over a bit. I did this a couple of times over and the clown car was on the other side. I haven't ever felt more satisfied from a cheese.
One cheese method I like is using the spin jump in the 3D World style since it lets you jump higher. Lots of level creators seem to forget about it or not realize it exists. It can save you from having to use a spring or cat suit if you don't have to get too high up.
Man I playtested my ~30 seconds level for about 5 hours just to make sure it was 100% uncheesable. I’d think of how to cheese it in the most obscure, weird ways until I came up with the ultimate, uncheesable design.
Thank you for posting this! As a creator, I don't want to spend hours on a level just for someone to cheese it so I will keep this in mind when creating levels. 😃
No, you shouldn’t tell people how to decheese their levels! Now I can’t be on top 1000 super expert without skipping! (i’m sarcastic, this is a good video)
These only apply to levels 1. Made by 7 year olds 2. Levels made by 7 yo’s who only played their level once before uploading 3. Levels made by 7 yo’s who’ve never played a Mario game before
DannyB Plays: if you ever make a part 2 then don't forget the spiny shellmet in general (I legitimately almost cheesed the undefined out of a Japanese 50s speedrun level that used blocks and not ground for most of the level)
If the level theme is jungle and you fall down into the water with no way to get back up, swim ahead. You might be able to jump back up later in the level.
There was a level with red coins, and each individual section wasn’t blocked off, just an impossible jump. One section contained a stiletto with wings that you can take anywhere with you as long as you don’t go in the exit pipe. I was able to get every red coin quickly by flying over to the next area.
Some of my proudest cheesing moments: 1. 3DW style castle level has a warp box high above starting point. This warp box goes to the goal, but you cannot just jump up to it-- you're intended to go through a sub-map so you can come back out in a higher part of the main area to reach the warp box. Well, the genius who built this level put a bunch of POW blocks about three screens into the level. I simply grabbed two of them, took them back to the start of the level and stacked them, the spin-jumped off of them to reach the warp box. Given this level's clear-check time, the creator clearly did not intend for those POW blocks to be used to reach the goal early. 2. This was a semi-troll level, New Soup type, where the goal pole is blocked off by a wall of red on-off blocks, and you're intended to go down a pipe to a sub-map where you eventually fight Morton for a key, in order to reach a room with an on-off switch. You're then supposed to backtrack to the beginning of the sub-map, and come back out of the pipe in the main area with the blocks deactivated so the goal can finally be reached. Except... the start of the sub-map has a ? Block that will give you a Propeller Mushroom if you are Super Mario. The creator did make the wall of red on-off blocks high enough so that you can't just fly over them... but did not expect me to backtrack in the level and set up a triple jump, giving me just enough height to allow me to fly over the wall with the Propeller. This led to the level being cleared in half of the intended amount of time. 3. 3DW style haunted house with four doors. Each leads to a room with a red coin. You need a key to reach the goal. Well, the second door has a Boom Boom fight for a key. You're not intended to use this key to reach the goal; it was only meant for you to be able to reach that room's red coin. It was not intended to be taken out of that room. But guess what the level creator was nice enough to offer us earlier in the level: a Propeller Box. With it, you can fly up to an on-off switch high above Boom Boom, effectively allowing you to "steal" the key that was only meant to be temporary, rather than the one you're intended to get from collecting all four red coins. This results in a red coin collecting puzzle that can essentially be skipped.
i actually like to see people cheese my levels as long as it doesn't break the entire level because it shows me people are capable of thinking outside the box and doing things their own way
Way to cheese:Eat cheese. So you need to find a level with kaizo, then you need to perfectly jump to other platform to cheese the other shell jump, or if you're in co-op grab someone and throw him. You can spin jump in:Smw and nsbu, So if theres a spiny down trying to block you in both game styles, then you can cheese (or find secret way).
A few more of my favorite cheesing incidents, which can be chalked up to poor planning on the level creator's part: -3DW style snow level where you're intended to go down a pipe and into a sub-map. A tall wall separates this pipe from the goal. But it's not too tall for Cat Mario. And guess what powerup you can grab immediately after you enter the sub-map.... (The fix: make it impossible for the player to use this pipe in the opposite direction) -3DW style desert level where, again, you are supposed to go into a sub-map. A huge pit separates the pipe you're supposed to enter from the flag on the other side, which you're only supposed to reach after coming out the other end of the sub-map. Well once again somebody underestimated the power of Cat Mario. By climbing a left wall in order to gain some extra height, I could then do a dive attack to send Cat Mario soaring through the desert skies like Superman. The huge chasm was no match for the flying feline. -3DW once again, this time another castle level. This time it's Builder Mario's turn to make a level designer look like a fool. By throwing a couple of those red M Blocks into the lava, they can be used as makeshift platforms to bypass the sub-map completely. (A word to the wise: if you want to force a player to go thru the sub-map, place a completely solid, impassable barrier between the starting area and ending area on the main map. If you give the player a powerup that enhances Mario's movement in any way, and do not have your start and end areas completely blocked off from one another, you are asking for your level to be cheesed.) -Can't remember the game style but it had the sub-map exit pipe on the other side of a pit that the level creator thought was just a little too wide to jump over. But... an invincibility star can be picked up early in the sub-map. While invincible, I quickly went back to the main map and used the extra speed from the invincibility in order to do a running jump across this gap. I really have to wonder what all these level creators think about me using an outside-the-box tactic to cheese their level and clear it in half (or even less) of the amount of time they thought was possible. Maybe some of them even took their levels down, re-worked them, and re-uploaded a new, cheese-proof version.
The new multiplayer modes are great for cheese, especially multiplayer co-op. The other day I went into a Super Expert Multiplayer Co-op level. It was split up into several tricky puzzle rooms - each room required hitting an On/Off switch to let you advance to the next room. Instead, I abused the Multiplayer Start Over feature. The first room was an easy switch to hit. Then I left my allies in the second room, hit Start Over, went back to the beginning and hit the switch. Then Start Over again, and respawn on my allies - next room had another switch puzzle, so I hit Start Over, went back to the start, hit the easy switch, then Start Over back ahead to my allies. And repeat! Managed to completely cheese the Super Expert level. Multiplayer also allows you to bounce allies up to higher parts of a level they're not intended to get to, to gain i-frames when going through any pipe or door, and to infinitely respawn powerups and items like springs, POWs and P Switches sitting in the open. A lot of levels don't take any care to decheese levels from a multiplayer co-op perspective, so always be on the look out for situations like those.
I didn't know yoshi's cheese. Thank you. What you told me is very useful and also very useful for battle. What you told me made me another bowser that's the strongest one on the earth.
Yoshi is cheese when you use him in a way that the creator didn't expect and it makes a section easier. but if a creator is careful enough you can't cheese with yoshi
Me spending a whole day making a level: ok cool, pretty difficult and fun Dude that can quadruple shell jump that passes it in a matter of minutes: *Pure cheese*
