Love the videos, I used to operate a 36 meter schwing in the mid to late 80s. That was before there was proportional valving and all of the modern electronics in the controls. Did a lot of work in southeast Pennsylvania and Philadelphia specifically. Watching your videos brings back a lot of memories, mostly good, some nightmare days as you can imagine. Keep up the good work.
Back in the of days when you essentially had to be a mechanic to get through the day pumping concrete. I swear these days it’s evolved to the point of needing a degree in electrical engineering to keep some of these rigs moving the mud 😂
I was on a Putzemaster pump and a Mark Thompson pump we always used rubber pipe from the end of the boom to ridged pipe . Otherwise it would shake the boom and pipes to bits and blow the clamps off the pipes . I hope this information is useful . As far as I know its never changed . I must admit your pumps are very impressive to watch . Thank you for this video . Steve Williams . UK .
Appreciate that Steve. I fully agree with you. Connecting a boom into hardline directly from the tip-elbow just seems dangerous to me. The potential side and torsional loads imposed on the boom structure could lead to catastrophic consequences over time.
Yeah man, I oil mine at the end of every washout as well as prior to each pour. Once the metal “saturates” with oil it becomes so much easier to washout/keep clean.
Was on a 47m putsmeister for over 10 years here in the uk and another 10 years before on various sizes of pumps . Ive taken a couple of years out to recharge my batteries. But great video and got me thinking about how much i probably miss it .
@@PeterNorman-xd8tr Sounds like the same people whom decided it would be a good idea to have about 18 different buttons which need to be activated respectively prior to the machine pumping a drop of concrete 😂😂😂
Very nice ,i work in the netherlands Amsterdam in the concrete ,and my father hey,s working in the 70 80 on a concrete pump and leather concrete mixer to 2017 greetings Piet from Amsterdam holland 👍
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The scope of this projects is absolutely mind-blowing. The amount development in lower mainland ever since the 2010 Olympics has really changed the landscape of things.
Pro-tip: move your Putz hopper vibrator to the center of the grate and your bushings will last 5 times longer (especially the one on the drivers side). Because we always run a secondary screen, our hopper vibrators are running pretty much full-time. We tried mounting them to the outside of the hopper but it just doesn’t shake well enough to move move mud through the double-screen at any decent kind of volume.
We have a couple of them. Honest opinion: they just weren’t practical for our application. We found it far too cumbersome trying to feed the cable through 20’ lengths of hose. I could see them working great for markets in which 10’ lengths of hose are common, or perhaps for cleaning the tip-hose on a placing boom (would save from making a mess of water slurry all over the deck when cleaning the hose). To summarize, they just aren’t/weren’t for us.
Yeah, these are all McNeilus mixers. I’ve seen a few oddball (for about are) brands which have much more narrow and deep chutes. Would be interesting to learn what the theory is behind the two different styles.
That's a tough one. I'm all about the screens/technology, but I will say that I had our old 47Z Putz out for a whirl yesterday, and man oh man was it nice just having the old-school HBC radio control without any of the extra "fluff". There's something pure about it, almost like driving a pre-abs/pre-traction control/manual transmission car. I believe Alliance does now offer an LCD screen which displays several operating parameters of the machine. The 57Z in the video here is 5-ish years old now, so it doesn't have it.
They do make remotes with screens the company ordering the pump has to option it on. Ran a 32zz alliance that had a screen in the middle that told you everything. Fuel level and all even can tell you how many yards you’ve pumped
Typically only if there’s line off the boom or of the operator cannot feasibly be close by the pump to back trucks in and/or keep an eye on what’s going on with the machine. I would like to see a second operator become standard on these bigger pumps, not only for safety reasons but also to make things more manageable for the operator… may also help in terms of industry retention (it’s currently a lot easier to drive a ready mix truck and in many cases pays better).
@Canadian Concrete Pumper You old timer bosses are the folks that can make it happen, us old timer employees get tired after a few decades .... Also need to work on the pay splits from small-midsize-large-giant machines. Down here there's less than a dollar split from a 20m to a 63m
@@greghughey9738 I could not agree with you more. Gone are the days of being young, dumb, and resilient to anything. With most of our guys getting on in age (myself included),, the only way to keep working 14 hours days on the big iron going is to have a helper take care of the grunt work. Couple of years back we did just what you’re suggesting with the pay split. Our big-boom guys are now making $6 per hour more than the small boom (40M and under) guys.
@@whosbrian4071 Our big-boom guys receive a roughly 15% pay premium versus the guys running smaller booms. I had given some thought to the possibility of yardage pay based pay, but I feel as though it could have potential for opening up a whole other can of worms. In an industry which is so heavily dependant on safety, I feel like production based pay, in our market at least, could encourage bad habits and/or corner cutting. Just my opinion though.
@@gavinperry7237 they typically setup a makeshift testing station a decent distance away from the pump/mixer (50-ish feet or so). I’ll chat with the tester when I’m out tomorrow and try to get some more solid/reliable/detailed answers.
Dude the rise on that alliance pump each stroke, super sketch. I see why they want hard line off the elbow, so it doesn't scare everyone. And everyone knows they can't reliably put down the numbers as putz. Let alone torture tests. Great video tho
When the 56 was originally introduced to the North American market the rear spread was 41 feet. True story: we asked Putz if they could narrow it. The engineers looked into it and because it was originally designed for a 4 axle chassis (European/Asian market) and in North America mounted on a 6 axles chassis (increased counterweight), they were able to reduce the spread to 33’10”…. Ours was delivered at 41’ and a few weeks later Putz shipped us spacers which install in hydraulic slewing cylinders for the rear legs. The spacers limit travel and in turn reduce the outrigger spread. There’s probably still some early units out there with the wider spread which have not yet been updated. Ours is actually just a smidge over 35’ wide in the rear because we have the slightly longer rear outrigger legs which are required when the pump unit is mounted onto a chassis with the steerable rear axle, as ours is.
@@newrealm9187 30’6” in the front, 35’5” in the rear. Our 58-5 is 38’ in the front and 36’ in the rear. The 56 is a super tight outrigger spread relative to the length of the boom.
So they place the competitor’s pump on the second floor on a recently poured slab and drove a full concrete truck to it? And another think I don’t get. Why don’t you guys use the cranes to move the hoses?
The suspended slab has been engineered with additional shoring to accommodate the pump and mixers. Moving the hoses crane does not work well in most cases, this being one of them. Typically end up being more trouble/work than it saves.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 When I first saw you prepare 3 high-volume pomp for a pour I thought "What supplier do they have down there to keep up with such equipment". Flow problems were bound to happen.
@@liviuvisanYes, it’s pretty unusual for us not to see a few delays in supply throughout the course of these larger pours. All it takes is one hiccup at the batch plant, or traffic issue, and the flow gets thrown off.
Ok I worked for a concrete company down in Louisiana and we had a 50 meters pump truck. That was one big truck and I drove the pickup truck worth the outrigger pads
@@jaketorbert4253 We do that around here as well sometimes, pad of dunnage pads on the pickup truck travelling with the pump . I have a buddy with pumps in Louisiana (Decker Concrete Pumping) and I’ve heard the ground conditions are really something to behold.
@@jaquigreenlees indeed, them Richmond ditches have swallowed up a few vehicles over the years. We had one crash through a power-pole and burry itself into the ditch right outside our yard…
Slick-Willy through 220’ of boom pipe + 80’ of rubber= no bueno. We use it occasionally for priming the boom, but using it to prime through rubber line with a concrete mix containing any significant amount of aggregate has been a losing proposition, in our experience. Always grout on a high-volume pour like this. Can’t take any chances of having a delay on the prime (and this is coming from guy who LOVES bentonite primer).
It’s no disrespect. Our concrete industry here in BC was at least 80 percent Italian and Portuguese when I first started 20+ years ago, hence the term “Portuguese boom-stretcher” eg: crank up the pump shoot that concrete another 10 feet out the end of the hose! Those old-school guys had their old-school tricks and would work circles around most of todays labour pool.
