158: Nicholas Baragwanath (Hexachordal Italian Solfeggio) 

0:00 Intro 0:36 Start 1:05 Update on response to “The Solfeggio Tradition” 3:04 What is Italian Solfeggio? 7:23 Did Bellini, Verdi and Puccini know this method of Solfeggio in the 19th century? 9:27 Solmizing a simple Cotumacci solfeggio (No. 7) 16:59 Solmizing a slighter hard Cotumacci solfeggio (No. 11) 22:22 Use of commas and semi-colons in the solution 23:05 Solmizing a harder Cotumacci solfeggio (No. 31) 26:27 What is an Inganno? 30:54 What do you mean that the Neapolitan children weren’t allowed to sing until their voices broke, didn’t they have boy sopranos? 37:23 Are we supposed to think of the Melody first or the Bass first? 39:42 Mattheson vs Buttstett 41:35 Solmizing a difficult solfeggio with 32nd notes (Leo/Sala Cantabile) 56:08 Do you have experience with Fixed Do and Moveable Do and what’s the difference with Italian Solfeggio? 59:45 Is there more commonality with the Renaissance and later eras than we are led to believe? 1:02:04 Future practical exercises for people to use 1:04:06 Professor Baragwanath’s photographic memory 1:05:47 Wrapping Up 1:06:15 Outro

Great show

Where can one find manuscript with these elementary solfeggi? I have a bunch that are much more artful, but really go over my head...

Proverb: mi-fa=music. Nick shows why...and how the wonderful duality works. "College students will never master the hexachords, why teach them?" So their children might. Traditional Solfege is the embryo of tonal harmony through the ages. Like chromosomes, the primal scales are paired.....Read notes on fa clefs for a year? I'm 65 and I've started. I might not get far, but I'll never see a melody the same way again. What good are fossils? Ask the children of Darwin. Thank you, Nick and Nikhil, for this sip from the fountain of youth, truly.

This is great! Thanks

OH WOW! I actually learned an immense amount from reading his summary, but never really considered I might somehow hear him speak on the matter. This is actually very exciting, as his research helped me a lot on my road to understanding 18th century music.

Great show! Thank you Mr. Hogan and Prof. Baragwanath. One question: is it possible to get the facsimile of the Traetta's manuscript? It seems like a wonderful collection and I would like to study it.

Love this! I like to sight read solfeggio with guitar.

The comments about teaching the bass later also reflect Bach´s teaching method of teaching adding basses later- because it is more difficult as you must first be aware of how melodies function before you can add the extra layer of complexities involved in writing bass lines.

Yes, yes, yes...I'm so excited about solfeggio topic...Melodies ❤❤❤

Loved it!

There is still a trace of the old two-hexachord system in the American acappela folk hymn tradition known as Sacred Harp (aka shape note singing), which solmizes the major scale as: fa sol la fa sol la mi fa. The repeated syllables (fa so la) are even notated with the same three shapes. When singing a hymn, they usually sing the solmization syllables the first time through, before singing the actual lyrics.

I was always a failure with modern solfeggio methods. I was taught by moveable and fixed DO. Then my teachers tried to teach me with numbers, and again a failure. 18th century way of solfeggio makes much more sense to me! How can it be possible? Why didn't my former teachers teach me 18th century way of solfeggio? It is much easier and logical. I spent a lot of time with those Pozzolli books with no interesting melody. Gosh, such a pain!

So Mattheson was just involved in a food fight and music historians treated it like the French Revolution?