Understand the differences between the particular baptist covenant theology of the 2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith and Dispensationalism. www.1689federalism.com
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RU-vid video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
@SpotterVideo You have distilled many thoughts I often have floating around my head like so many disembodied spirits in dispensational church heaven. Thank you for materializing them for ne like dispensational Israel.😂
The SBC has divided itself into two different factions promoting two different man-made doctrines. The confessions of Reformed Covenant Theology do not contain the term "New Covenant", even though the term is found in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Many of those promoting modern Dispensational Theology claim the New Covenant is not in effect yet, because it is for "Israel". Read the book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" by Ken Wilson, to see the origin of that doctrine. Watch the RU-vid video "Genesis of Dispensational Theology" to see the original source of that doctrine in black and white. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the RU-vid video “The New Covenant” by Bob George.
The last question they asked Jesus before he ascended into Heaven was whether he was now going to restore the Kingdom of Israel. Jesus basically said the Father’s timetable was not for them to know. [mic drop]
Right, the question is who is Israel? Paul in Romans and Galatians is at pains to say those who have faith like Abraham are his true children. Belief brings one into true Israel. That's not a development. It's always been that way. Which is why we must continue to stress the spiritual nature of the covenant with Abraham.
@@OriginalBlueFrankie, Jews believed that they were saved by virtue of being descendants of Abraham in the flesh and keeping the law of Moses. Paul refuted this by explaining that Abraham was a true saint because of his faith, so true saints today are those with faith. But Paul also refuted the idea that the church was now Israel, or as Augustine put it, “spiritual Israel”. Do you believe that God basically switched from Israel to the church and won't switch back? Because in Romans 9-11, Paul explained how God has in the past chose one over another, and now God has chosen to partly harden Israel for rejecting the Messiah and sent his gospel to the Gentiles. Paul also refuted a doctrine we now call Supersessionism, that God will not revival the Kingdom of Israel among the flesh descendants of Abraham. And that revival was what they asked Jesus about in Acts 1. Jesus did not say they were spiritual Israel so God is already reviving the Kingdom but that timing is in the Father's hands. It's also called Replacement Theology, though some teachers try to escape that label by saying the church hasn't “replaced” Israel, the church “is” Israel, but that's a distinction without a difference. Paul made it clear that God has only hardened Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, which is a prophesy that Israel shall have revival at the rapture, and this is fulfilled at the 6th Seal of Revelation where Israel has revival on earth while raptured church saints celebrate their entry into heaven. Then the great tribulation starts at the 7th Seal.
“Replacement theology” is a pejorative. Type, Anti-type, typology… Romans 4, Galatians 3, Book of Hebrews, Romans 11… the tree is all true believers by faith. No distinction or difference necessary …historically or ultimately soteriologically.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 Hey there. Just checked back through my comments and noticed you had added this response. I would agree with you against Supersessionism. Paul's language is that of grafting, rather than replacement. The gentiles get grafted onto the root of the Abrahamic Covenant. So Christians are true descendants of Abraham by faith. To say that the Church is Israel does not necessarily imply replacement theology. Seeing the Church as the extension and true expression of Abrahamic faith is not a position which is mutually exclusive with future Jewish revival. The original point in response to 1689 Federalism is that the Abrahamic Covenant was thoroughly spiritual and redemptive even in its temporal aspects.
I don’t understand how you can read the OT and not see a future plan for them. I wrote that while I was a dispensationalist, I stand corrected, everything was fulfilled in Christ. There will still be salvation for Jews at the end.
@@Amilton5Solasthat's dispensationalism seeing Salvation for Jews at the end. Eph 2:19-22, 1 Tim 3:15, 1 Pet 2:5, 1 Cor 3:16, 2 Cor 6:19 refers to the temple as believers in Christ, the Christian Church. The unbelieving Jews from then till now is called into this temple, not a separate system in future where they will receive Salvation. 2 Thes 2:4, is misinterpreted to be a rebuilt temple taken out of context from other passages of scripture concerning the temple of God as we as Dan 9:24-27. There is only one way and that iss the Christian Church calling unbelieving Jews and Gentiles into body of Christ the temple of God.
@kennymacdonald5313John Knox (1505 - 1572) Yea, to speak it in plain words; lest that we submit ourselves to Satan, thinking that we submit ourselves to Jesus Christ, for, as for your Roman kirk, as it is now corrupted, and the authority thereof, whereon stands the hope of your victory, I no more doubt but that it is the synagogue of Satan, and the head thereof, called the pope, to be that man of sin, of whom the apostle speaks.” (John Knox, The History of the Reformation of Religion in Scotland, p.65) Thomas Cranmer (1489 - 1556) "Protestantism, In discarding the authority of the (Roman Catholic) Church, has no good reasons for its Sunday theory, and ought logically to keep Saturday as the Sabbath." John Gilmary Shea, American Catholic Quarterly Review, January, 1883. It is the antichrist the Papacy has separated Dan 7:25, Christians from the New Covenant Hebrews 8:9-10 KJV - . 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: This was the aim of the Protestant Reformation Rev 12:6-16, but Churches have either closed there eyes to further truth or returned to there Mother Rev 17:5. God is calling His people out of Babylon Rev 17:9 situated on 7 hills, Vatican City wine of false doctrines Rev 14:8, 17:1,2, 19:2, 18:4.
@@brandonadams07 Develop more the relationship between the covenants and the eschatology Especially since we are bombarded by dispensationalism claims of immanent apocalypses . I am Reformed but walked away from Westminster Infant baptism. I guess what troubles me is how to integrate covenants and develop a new model that replaces my past preterist understanding.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the RU-vid video “The New Covenant” by Bob George
The problem with Sam’s “scaffolding” analogy is that it misses the clearly punitive elements of God’s attitude towards the Jews which is depicted in the parables of Matthew 21 and 22. “The kingdom of God will be TAKEN from you and given to another nation bearing fruit.” Also, in the parable, the King destroys the wicked servants because they killed His son. The Jews lost their Kingdom because they killed Christ, not simply as a natural end due to the arrival of the church.
It's not either/or but both/and. Renihan affirms those points. See his book and his sermons on those texts on Sermon Audio. The Jews broke the Old Covenant long ago, but God was longsuffering towards them until the Christ was born from them, at which point they had to bear the wrath of the Old Covenant.
What was God's aim for the Protestant Reformation Rev 12:6-16? As it is today, Churches are complacent on the original truths and go no further or they have returned to there Mother Rev 17:5. Rev 12:17 is God's and for the Church. As Paul said in Acts 3:31, faith does not abolished the 10 Commandments but established it. Dan 7:25, the antichrist the Papacy has think to change God's law as even futurism through Jesuit Francisco Ribera 1590 to counter the Historicist method of interpreting Dan and Rev. See E. T. Hiscox on 7 day Sabbath, also the antichrist the Papacy Our Sunday Visitor February 5 1950.
@@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 all it speaks of is Paul speaking of are coming together with him how does that disprove dispensational theology. Also there are different forms of dispensational theology I am a minx dispensationalist. Because I believe that the church age started in mid- ax.
@@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 I would also recommend you read Ephesians 3 The Gospel that we Preach Today was Kept Secret since the world began it wasn't known back in Matthew Mark Luke and John which is Old Testament according to Hebrews 9 because you can't have a new testament without the death of the testator for a testament is a force after men are dead otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator live it. The New Testament started after Christ's death not before. But in Luke 13:7-9 God gave the nation of Israel a one year extension of Mercy after Christ's death burial and Resurrection it ended with the stoning of Steven and in Acts 11:19 Peter's group was scattered and only preached to Jews. As they were commanded by Jesus christ. Jesus was a minister of the circumcision to confirm the promises made unto the fathers the middle wall of partition separating Jew from Gentile was still up in the books of Matthew Mark Luke and john. You were still Gentile dogs according to the middle wall of partition that still existed. And if you haven't heard of this teaching it's probably because you've never been taught dispensational Doctrine you've been taught mostly Catholic dogma and so you have very little understanding of right division. I would recommend you look up Columbus Bible Church Pastor David Reed. You can find them on RU-vid and the other questions for me feel free to ask I'm working now so I might not be able to get back to you as quickly as I want
@@inthedark334 I grew up Independent Fundamental Baptist, I am very familiar with dispensational theology. Most of my family believes it, I do not. 'As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.' John 10:15-16 'Now this he did not say on his own authority; but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, and not for that nation only, but also that He would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad.' John 11:51-52 'Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.' Ephesians 2:11-18
And the word was made flesh. When Christ was born, the word became flesh. The new testament had not occurred yet, He was the OT made flesh. Therfore you must view the NT as a explanation and or continuatio of the OT.
In the two thousand year history of the church, I don't think anyone has ever thought about this, discussed this, or written about this. I'm sure there are not thousands and thousands of things written on this very subject that could be found with a simple google search.
There is no contradiction. Firstly, James has already stated that salvation is a gracious gift (James 1:17-18). See also: 1 Peter 1:3, Next, James quotes Genesis 15:6 which claims that God credited righteousness to Abraham solely on the basis of his faith (James 2:23). The “works” that James said justified Abraham was his offering up of Isaac (Genesis 22:9, 12), an event that occurred many years after he first exercised faith and was declared righteous before God (Genesis 12:1-7, Genesis 15:6). Therefore in verse 24, James is emphasizing the vindication *before others* of his claim to salvation. (remember that he previously said “I will show you my faith by my works”) God knows if our faith is genuine or not, but for others, it takes the manifestation of works that naturally flow out of a saving faith to prove to them that our salvation is genuine. You can easily see James’ point about vindication before others when you read the whole chapter. Martin Luther once noted that “justification is by faith alone, but not by a faith that is alone.” True faith is what Luther called a “fides viva,” or, a “living faith.” It is a faith that immediately brings forth the fruits of repentance and righteousness. So, if we say that we have faith, but there are no works that follow our faith, then that is clear evidence that our faith is not a genuine, saving faith. To put it another way, if there is no sanctification, then there never was any justification. Works are not a necessary component FOR salvation, but rather, they are the demonstrative results OF salvation. In short, what James is saying is that if your faith is genuine, then you will not use it to justify your sins, instead, your lifestyle bears witness to the genuineness of your faith. We are justified by faith alone (Romans 3:21-28), but not by a faith that is alone, and that is the point of James 2:14-26.
the new covenant was with "the house of ISRAEL and the house of Judah" the church is "the fellowship of the mystery" and "the one new man" The dispensation of Grace precludes the covenant made with ISRAEL. we have been giving as gentiles a dispensation of Grace. "which was not previously known to the sons of men"
Paul said it was not a mystery to Hosea in Romans 9:24-27. Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RU-vid video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
the mysteries of paul unlock bible prophecy and its escatalogical application. dispensationalism properly taught is not a "System" or a "chart" but rather a mystery enterpreted by revelation and careful study according to the revealed mysteries in this present age. these mysteries were not previously known until revealed to paul the apostle for gentiles
Ted, that is not quite the correct meaning of "mystery," as Paul uses it. The mystery of Christ was something that was previously known, but only obscurely and partially. It has now been fully and clearly revealed. See Samuel Renihan's book "The Mystery of Christ, His Covenant, and His Kingdom." press.founders.org/shop/the-mystery-of-christ-his-covenant-and-his-kingdom/
The question of a millenial kingdom does not stand or fall with convenant theology. you can be covenant theologian and believe either in post-, a-, or hist. premillenialism. The question is rather, if there is a millenial kingdom, who would participate in it? Dispensationalism would answer: Christ will reign with Israel, while the Church is in heaven. Hist. Premill. would answer the spiritual Israel, that is the believers of all time will reign with Christ in the kingdom. So these topics must not be confused. Although one might admit, that indeed most covenant theologians are amill...
I can't find anyone teaching that before the 1830s. I think we should be very cautious about that system. We are standing on giants. All of the reformers were in agreement to read the Old Testament in light of God's (Jesus') New Testament. They recovered (as opposed to how the Roman Catholic Church erred) the original churches' teachings passed on to them from the apostles about how to read the Word of God. God bless!
@@Psalm144.1, William C. Watson’s book, Dispensationalism Before Darby, contains hundreds of references to the doctrine well before Darby. And the reason why this Old Testament doctrine disappeared for over a thousand years was because the Catholic church seized power and enforced Augustine’s new allegorical interpretation method in which “spiritual Israel” fulfills all the promises God made to the remnant of Israel in the flesh. This allowed popes to claim they were ruling the world in Christ’s place until the end of time. Sadly, state-controlled churches on the continent refused to reform this Catholic doctrine, except to the degree that Protestant princes claimed they were seated on Christ's throne instead of popes.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 I really don't have anything against you believing dispensationalist theology. Regardless, I looked up people's comments about it. Doesn't exactly line up with what you're saying. Did you actually read the book? Augustine is the "doctor of the theology of grace." And not believing dispensationalism is not a "Catholic" doctrine. It's just a belief they (I do too) believe to be the Biblical view of scripture. It's pretty main stream protestant / reformed theology. There was no conspiracy during the Reformation to hold it back. Nowadays it mostly only exists in IFB churches which are a type of Church I'd never consider joining. Just not my cup of tea. Give me an evangelical Anglican Church or a Presbyterian Church. Reformed Baptists are cool too!
You are 100% right sir. But this is more for those who are still growing in their understanding of Christ, not non-believers. It’s just a shame because many of these great minds who expound deep theological truths end up being so far removed from the common non-believer that they end up making Christianity out to be a deep philosophical concept rather than a way of life.
@@LarryLarpwell I'll be completely honest and say that it has really affected my faith over the past few years. While I'm grateful to live in an era where I am a click away from a mass amount on information on any Christian topic or question, it has also led to a lot of doubt and insecurity in my own walk. I have a hypothesis. If you trace a lot of the (major) ideas that are divisive within Christianity, you can almost always point back to either a time, place, or people in which their new framework (disagreement), had more to do with who they were as a generation, nation, or culture. You can see this as early as the Great Schism in which the Eastern Orthodox split from the Roman Catholic church (they would say it's the other way around haha). While there were major disagreements (who was pope, and some theological views), I believe that culture prevailed. The Eastern world was simply never going to do church the way that the Western world did. I don't know, it comforts me a little seeing it this way. I think people are more influenced by their upbringing and culture than they'd like to admit and it's really hard to break out of it even as a Christian. I ask God for mercy in my life in the areas where i may be wrong.
@@CreutzfeldtTV I believe in the spirit God has shown me you are a true believer and seeker of Christ. I think your theory is probably largely correct, I believe the the following things have basically destroyed American christianity all but totally - 1. False Eschatology influences by Zionism - this produces a form of mental illness in its adherents and also a form of intense self righteousness with a false piety that reeks of falseness when you hear it 2. The same people from 1 are usually in a works system, lordship etc, this is again judaizing and perverting Christianity into something with zero effect - AND 3. THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT, all these false doctrines are always backed up by the Satanic doctrine of ECT - so false Christianity is creating a false enmity between itself and all others and all lost people with a false threat of hell. -=====- Christ knocked me on the ground 30 years ago with nobody aropund made my whole body melt down and he said 3 basic things into my mind and heart - Jesus is my Son, My ways are higher than your ways, you are mine now and you will never be released from me - i realized many many years after that was what religionists call irresistible grace
Fulfill is not replace. Also, that fulfillment was prophecied by both Isaiah and Jeremiah. There is, and always has been, one people of God. And one way to be blessed by Him.
There's more than one gospel in scripture Paul's gospel was the Gospel of the uncircumcision Peters gospel was the Gospel of the circumcision Peter's group was the Gospel of the Kingdom their gospel was according a prophecy but Arts according to the revelation of the mystery which was Kept Secret since the world began. Our Gospel is according to the revelation of the mystery Peters is not Peters group is a chosen generation a royal priesthood a holy nation A peculiar people this was according to prophecy the body of Christ was not your trying to say that the kingdom Church in the body of Christ are the same thing they're not the same thing Peter's group was promised a physical Kingdom Paul's group was promised a Heavenly Kingdom quit confusing the two
Well, these guys have written books, they have preached many sermons, there are conferences. You make it sound like this is all they've every said, done or written on the subject. You need to realize that brief summaries are not intended to be a replacement for deep theology but and INTRODUCTION and summary only.
this gets to sound more and more suspect.....blah, blah, blah....why dont we have a text that actually means something....not all of this guesswork.....
These guys have written books, taught seminary classes...you're confusing a brief video AS IF this is all they have done. They have both written books rich with Scripture and arguments from Scripture.
This reminds me of the synod of Dort when covenant theologians decided to discuss whether or not anabaptists were heretics and then didn't have a single anabaptist there to explain their position.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RU-vid video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
DNA counts for SOMETHING...whether your talking about Christ, who is still "the man Jesus Christ" and has a genealogy, or unbelieving Israel who are still beloved for the sake of the Fathers; DNA still counts. The natural branches that are broken away from the good tree for unbelief remain natural branches even after they are broken away, and can be MORE READILY graft BACK in. The unnatural branches remain unnatural even when graft into the good tree. In all of this, the tree remains the same, so do the covenants and promises. The "scaffolding around the building" analogy is completely wrong. Israel still exists, both in unbelief and belief. Those in unbelief are OF Israel, but they are NOT Israel. When they believe, they are graft BACK in from where they were originally removed, and become true Israel. Also gentiles are graft in AMONG them. The gentiles in the church need to get this right. Progressive Dispensationalism has come the closest. To totaly eliminate Israel is just plain unbiblical, and to totally separate them from their own covenants and promises when they accept their Messiah is equally ridiculous. Just some points to ponder,.
@@Metal_Auditor, Jews joining the church is not the same thing as them finding faith in Jesus after missing the Rapture then Jesus restoring the Kingdom of Israel after the great tribulation, and that’s the scene presented in the book of Revelation.
The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Matthew 1:1, as confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16. Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of Israel. Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. What does Paul say below about now using other genealogies in our faith? 1Ti_1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Tit_3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
the mystery of the dispensation of Grace, the mystery of his will (to unite everything in heaven and in earth), the mystery of israels future salvation, the mystery of the rapture, the mystery of iniquity, the mystery of lawlessness, the mystery of godliness(the trinune nature of God in human flesh, justified in the spirit seen of angels....) mystery babylon,
Why does this discussion even exist? What the Bible states is clear without all this unnecessary “explanation”. It appears as a desperate salesman with a useless product trying to make a quick sale. Why would anyone waste valuable time on this useless information unless they would rather construct a way of “not” spreading the good news of Christ directly from the Bible. Quit wasting time. -Admit to God you are a sinner. -Believe that Jesus is God’s Son. -Confess your faith in Jesus as Savior and Lord. -Live forevermore.
When they teach classes and sermons only one person speaks at a time. You're confusing a brief video summary on line with their entire body of work which includes preaching, lectures, books, with ONE speaker. Chill dude. You're not being very discerning.
