17. Nebuchadnezzar and Jeremiah's Letter to the Exiles 

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@@GoreBruce thank you for all your Sunday school lessons. I have been using the materials and even some of your humors (I tried) in my own Bible lessons to the ladies for the past 5 years. Thank you teacher.

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Yes, probably was food sacrificed to idols which was specifically prohibited

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+Jayson Dixon You are very welcome!

I add my thanks too.

+Nigar Ahmadova Thank you! ...you're very kind.

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I am teaching through Jeremiah just finished Chapter 20 and am trying to figure out how to approach teaching the remainder of it. Bruce Do you happen to have a timeline that gives an overview of the kings and rulers and events during this time. Also do you a recommend a chronological order for teaching through Jeremiah. Again great teaching and thank you for posting it. God bless!!

@@guyharris889 Please contact me at bruce@brucegore.com. Thanks for your feedback!

Your Babylon? What did you mean by this?

+Rutembesa Shabikumi Fair enough! Thank you!

Cf. Isa. 28:16

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Maybe it means the foundation stone.

I also would like to see the evidence.

There is no biblical evidence for any interpretation. The closest we have are the 10 Kings of Revelation and even that isn't proof of anything. So, the question is, why is there no New Testament mention of the image of the dream? It evidently was of no concern as even the all-important 70 Weeks of Daniel goes without New Testament mention of this timeline.

Generally viewed as 2nd century drawings.

Thank you for that sentiment. None of this material is under any copyright restriction, so any who are interested to doing something along the lines you are suggesting are welcome to do so.

Yes of course that is a possibility, though not directly substantiated in the text. Thanks for the perspective.

Only the one battle when the Ark was lost temporarily to the Phillistines. There was no figurine of Yahweh (blasphemy) in the Ark but the Commandments on stone, the rod that budded & manna.

Lydia was an important kingdom in the ancient world. It's most famous king was Croessus, who ruled from Sardis.

I think the best theory as to the meaning of the expression is to call attention to an empire that was not homogeneous. Iron and clay do not mix. The Roman Empire was a far flung collection of individual kingdoms, provinces, ethnicities, tribes, etc., and though they hung together through the force of 'iron,' as it were, there was never any real shared culture. Understand, I'm not going to die on that hill, but that strikes me as a reasonable stab at the meaning of the metaphor. Thanks for asking!

Thank you very much.

Ken Nick Ithink it prophesies the split of Rome into the Western and Eastern empires.

@@kennick7 Fourth Kingdom: This vision of the feet and toes is Imperial Rome. Their weapons were made of iron and crushed every enemy in their path. The 10 toes on the feet represented the 10 Caesars of Imperial Rome (Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Nero, Galba, Otho, Vitellius and Vespasian (father of Titus and Domitian). This can be debated as the 10 toes can start with Augustus and end with Titus. Or there are some views that the 10 toes are the 10 provinces of Rome which are also the 10 horns of Revelation 12:3 which would be Idumea, Judaea, Samaria, Galilee, Phoenicia, Nabatea, Perea, Decapolis, Gaulanitis, Syria. The iron mixed with clay is a metaphor that Rome was mixed with other nations. They did not intend to turn each place they conquered into another city of Rome but that these places would still be identified as they were but under the authority and jurisdiction of the Roman Empire. Partly strong (iron/Romans) and partly weak (clay/common people). Rome implemented a time period of peace and stability (Pax Romana) as long as everyone under their reign played by the rules and didn’t stir the pot. But the opposite is what is meant when Daniel is shown of the kingdom being divided. Many nations did not like the fact that they were under the reign and rule of Rome and lashed out in riots and wars against Rome in which Rome would then crush them for their insurrectionist rebellion. Iron being mixed with the seed of men means with common folk. This means that some Romans had either married and/or raped many of the women and had children with them. It was during this 4th kingdom of Rome that the Kingdom of God would be introduced and Jesus Christ inaugurated as King. This Kingdom would be different than every kingdom before it. It would begin small and slowly but surely expand its borders in the hearts of people. It’s weapons of warfare were not carnal weapons but spiritual weapons that designed to defeat a spiritual enemy.

History is up to the toes but not happened yet and the stone represents Jesus Christ who will crush the image & He is yet to return.

There are certain dates that are quite firmly established, e.g., the deportation of Judah by the Babylonians in 586, and the chronology reflected here and elsewhere relies on those benchmarks.

@@GoreBruce I was just a little confused on the 604 date when he took the king back with him.

I'll chime in here... A lot has changed since the days of Ussher's Annals of the World and now it seems that every time someone kicks a cylinder out of the sand or finds another stele while plowing a field, our dating shifts a bit, and our understanding of events improves. Even the latest issue of Biblical Archaeology Review gives the fall of Jerusalem a date of 586 BC rather than a 587 BC date which has stood for years. Really, the order of events is more critical than the date but if you want to enter the field of Chronology, be prepared for a lot of doubt and confusion. I have a lot of books on Biblical Chronology and there is only one certainty... No two chronologists will ever agree. I came here hoping to hear of what Josephus recounts in Antiquities 10.7.3 concerning Nebuchadnezzar's war with Egypt (Pharoah Hophra/Apries). The map Bruce shows of the extent of the Babylonian Empire extends up the Nile to Upper Egypt, yet many Biblical and secular scholars severely restrict Nebuchadnezzar's penetration only unto Tahpanhes and then only for a short time, far short of the 40 years prophesied. But, in reality, most dates for this time period usually only vary +/- 2 years over the last 300 years of chronological work and WIKI is almost always in that ballpark.

These presentations were made over a two year period beginning in 2011.

Thank you! That is very encouraging!

@@GoreBruce Yes sir, you have really blessed me, particularly with your series on Revelation. I listened to the majority of them. Thanks from Perth, Western Australia!

It is a quick question, but there is no 'quick' answer. Suffice it to say that the history of the production of the book of Daniel remains a highly controversial mystery, and there is plenty of technical scholarship out there that has addressed the question. One thing is certain, by the first century the book of Daniel, regardless of its origins, was widely read and regarded as canonical throughout Jewish circles.

One of the interesting things about Daniel is that Josephus spends some time recounting the events and some of prophecies of Daniel. However, when it comes to the stone that smashes the feet of the image, Josephus says, "Daniel did also declare the meaning of the stone to the king but I do not think proper to relate it, since I have only undertaken to describe things past or things present, but not things that are future;" It seems that Josephus did not want to chance falling out of favor with his Roman patron or those Romans in power that would read his history since that "stone" indicates the fall of all world empires, including the Roman emperor's. But Josephus never once intimated anything "wrong" or unreliable about the book he considered as part of his "sacred writings".

It seems most likely he died in Egypt (see Jeremiah 43)

He died in Ireland ..... And is buried their !!!!!

China.

Yes, the word 'Palestine' is derived from 'Philistine,' and was intended as an insult to the deported Jewish people who were stripped of their land as a punishment for their rebellion against Roman authority, but more importantly, as a judgment for their rebellion against Messianic authority.

Yes, that theory is taken by liberal scholars who object in principle to the possibility of predictive prophecy, which from their point of view would rule out Rome.

Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome. The world is still in the Roman era headed by the Pope of the Roman Church & instrumental in present day EU.

Yeah, there are many theories. Most miss a couple of things though. The "Greeks" of Daniel are not really "Greeks" as the word used there is related to Javan of Japheth. As such it could be referring to a "people group" rather than a country. Always remember, Alexander was not Greek, he was Macedonian as were the Ptolemies and Seleucids. If you had called Alexander a "Greek" to his face, your head would have likely been quickly removed from your shoulders. I suspect Paul thinks the same way as he divides peoples into two groups, "Jews and Greeks" when he writes to the Romans. So, he appears to indicate that he groups those living on the Mediterranean Boot as "Greeks" which would shift our "countries with borders" thinking a bit. The 4 Wings of the Leopard being the Diocochi is also a "non-starter" for me as there were more than 4 commanders under Alexander and, in the prophecy, only two of them matter anyway; the kings of the north and the kings of the south... no one else really gets a single mention. The "4" could just as easily be interpreted as the 4 Winds or 4 Corners indicating the 4 Cardinal directions. We may all be gob-smacked at the true interpretation.

Not even close. This is called reading something foreign into the Biblical text. Not a proper handling of God’s written word and an abuse of it. This is scarlet what Peter warns of in 2 Peter 3:16.

Mormons, you are insane, joey the con smith is frying in hell and all he wanted was more Booty and wealth and power. He and all the lying whore leaders of your sick cult are ALL liars and they have you under a spell. You are dead and you will never be alive as long as you feed on the death cult’s brew, and now you’re going to double down on the lies and go check pearl of great price……..

I think you will find it was Babylon that conquered Assyria. Assyria, Babylonian, Persian, Greek & Roman Empires.

Why are you shouting?

Because we are hard of sight hearing?🤣

Can’t help yourself can you!

Thank you!