18 (Dehler & Phil Smith, Ph.D.) Questions for Christians TV Show

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In this episode, Bernie Dehler (former Christian, now atheist) has a discussion with Phil Smith, Ph.D. (Christian philosophy professor at George Fox University in Oregon).
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On Mon. 11-21-16 Dehler and Smith discussed these 4 questions:
1. Facing death (Christian and atheist perspectives) 3:37
2. Moral Truths. (Christian and atheist perspectives) (19:14)
3. Is there a purpose for each one's personal existence? (Christian and atheist perspectives) (30:25)
4. How can mental faculties account for truth given an evolutionary understanding? (Christian and atheist perspectives) (42:08)
More info on the presenters:
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Bernie is the author of "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology," which can be found here:
tinyurl.com/lmlqy56 . You can also find him on Twitter here: BernieDehler and on Facebook here: Bernie-Dehler-467276896621775 .
You can see some of the local Portland events where Bernie participates, here (Center for Philosophical Naturalism):
www.meetup.com/Philosophical-N... .
Phil Smith has written numerous books.
Published works include Learning to Love: Philosophy and Moral Progress (University of Oregon, 1991); Values and Ethics in the Workplace (instructors' and students' books for George Fox University, 1992); The Virtue of Civility in the Practice of Politics (University Press of America, 2002); Being at Home in the World: A New Christian Apologetic (with Mark McLeod-Harrison; Wipf and Stock, 2011); Why Faith is a Virture (Wipf and Stock, 2014).
Articles include "Somalia and War" (Quaker Religious Thought, 1994); "A Basis for Civility" (in Truth's Bright Embrace, George Fox University Press, 1996); "The Just War and Integrational Pacifism" (in Pacifism: History of Ideas, Theory, and Practice, Barbara Bleisch and Jean-Daniel Strub, eds., Haupt-Verlag, 2006); "Quakers and Coercion in a World of Good and Evil" (in Good and Evil: Quaker Perspectives, Jackie Leach Scully and Pink Dandelion, eds., Ashgate, 2007).
In addition to books and articles addressing philosophy and questions of war and peace, Phil writes fiction: The Heart of the Sea (2008) and Buying the Bangkok Girl (2013) are available as e-books.

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@oceanchicns 6 лет назад

Sorry to hear of his passing...a very smart human 😥

@tex959 Год назад

I miss Bernie.. rest well my youtube friend.

@fidelo3368 6 лет назад

sad to hear of bernie's death. he will be remembered by his many yt fans. rest in peace!

@ForevverYoung777 5 лет назад

I don't know why but I really like bernie's voice

@spacedoohicky 5 лет назад

I'm staying subscribed anyway so I can easily come back, and reminisce.

@spacedoohicky 2 года назад

@FaithnCross To reminisce about an amazing person who was kind, and courageous.

@spacedoohicky 2 года назад

@FaithnCross He tried to help people become disavowed of a false belief. Particularly false belief in Christianity. He did it publicly even though he probably knew that there would be people who would try to shame him, and drag his name through the mud.

@spacedoohicky 2 года назад

@FaithnCross Well, I hope you feel good about yourself.

@bloccospirale4280 6 лет назад

I am so sorry to hear that. Bernie's disarming, but direct, approach when dealing with apologists was extremely effective in exposing the nonsense of religion. I have no doubt that he made the world a more rational place, and his videos will continue to do so.

@djvdiddy 6 лет назад

Blocco Spirale How does a strickly material entity, who is nothing more than neurons firing make the world a rational place? How can you even trust your senses to determine what he is saying accurately reflects the reality around us. It's nonsense.....

@bloccospirale4280 6 лет назад

djvdiddy, in the absence of evidence to the contrary we're all strictly material entities so you tell me how you can trust your senses to determine anything?

@djvdiddy 6 лет назад

Blocco Spirale You didn't even try to attempt an answer. Pretty blatant dodge... How is it even possible, in a world without a creator who has created you, for you to trust your senses about reality enough to know if there is "no evidence to the contrary? You can't ... You can't even know if we are in the matrix or not. And that being the case, you can't rationally tell me that you "know" there is absence to evidence, nor that we are strickly material... To justify your senses you must have a standard outside of yourself. I can trust that the world I'm seeing around me is accurate because the one who has created you and I has made us in His image and has told us so. It's also self evident and you have to seriously suppress that to believe otherwise. You look at a MacBook, and I know you think to yourself "there is absolutely no way, no matter how much time, that this computer could ever come to be without the hands and mind of a designer". It logically follows then since we are way more complex than a MacBook, we MUST be created by an incredible designer! We both know this, but you just seem to suppress it....

@bloccospirale4280 6 лет назад

I am not dodging your question. None of us, including you, can be absolutely certain of anything and I don't claim to be but we have to work with what we have. And here we are, making value judgements and determining truth to the best of our ability but never with 100% certainty without a god in sight. You claim to know something with absolute certainty and yet you have no way of knowing whether you are a "in the matrix" because we cannot know anything beyond our own minds and if you are claiming that you can then demonstrate how? How did you determine that complexity is proof of design? Using your MacBook analogy can we also determine that since a MacBook is made in China it "logically follows" that we must also must also be made in China? Why not, according to you the two are analogous? I always consider simplicity to he a hallmark of good design where the designer does no include faulty or redundant components. The universe and the human body appears to be full of redundant stuff that serves no purpose. No one is perfect, we all have some flaw due to variances in the "manufacturing" process. Do you think Apple would still be in business if their products had the same variances and failure rates as humans? What would we think of the designers if they did? Do you know that around 50% of the cells in your body are not human? That's an unusual design choice, don't you think? Do you think that eating and breathing through the same tube is good design? Do you think that the failure of our senses as we age is good design? Do you think our susceptibility to illness and disease is good design? If I were a triple-omni god could I design a better human, of course.

@djvdiddy 6 лет назад

Blocco Spirale There were many flaws in your reasoning, but I will keep it somewhat short because to answer all your objections would take 97 paragraphs and too much gets lost.... You make it very clear by saying "none of us, include myself, can be absolutely certain of anything". If you believe this to be the case, and can't be certain of anything, then you can't know truth! Therefore, You can't object to what I say as if what I'm saying is incorrect about reality cause you can't be certain of it. Its illogical! To make a truth claim, and then say there is no certainty is irrational. To make any sort of truth claim, there has to be certainty. This makes all your claims invalid.

@petewoodroffemusic 7 лет назад

How many horses can Smith ride. He doesnt seem to a have a strong position on anything and does 'all religion' leads to god dance!! I respect Bernie for his truth, honesty, integrity and bravery

@FasterMobionline 6 лет назад

bernie basically

@ryeken6115 6 лет назад

Christians don't ask you to buy their fantasy books. You will be humbled in HIS Grace.

@pilgrimpater 7 лет назад

My question would be "is the Bible to be taken literally or allegorically?" If the former we know it is wrong. If the latter then the bedrock of Christianity I.e. the Resurrection, has no basis. If a mixture then how do we know which is true and which is allegorical. So no matter what, Christianity has problems.

@z3my4l Год назад

Phil sounds a bit like Sye Ten.

@spacedoohicky 7 лет назад

Amoebas have the better strategy--in evolutionary survival. I think Phil confused survival of a species with a value. What's valued by the members of a species does not necessarily promote survival of the species. Also the start/end music is in some way apt. I like it.

@SecHummer 6 лет назад

spacedoohicky , yes, the magical music represents magical thinking.

@free2be689 6 лет назад

Does anyone know if Bernie is okay?

@SecHummer 6 лет назад

Josh S Hi, this is Chad, his son. My dad passed away about nearly two weeks ago. An update video will come soon

@free2be689 6 лет назад

Oh my gosh I am so sorry to hear that. My condolences goes out to you and your family. Thank you for responding.

@InTheSh8 6 лет назад

I'm really sad to hear that. I really enjoyed your father's channel. My deep condolences to you and the rest of the family.

@dennisneo1608 6 лет назад

I'm sorry to hear that. I pray he turned to Jesus.

@lauriehouse6380 6 лет назад

so sorry to hear about your loss :(

@51elephantchang 7 лет назад

Being dead is not a particularly scary proposition its the manner of dying the scares the shit out of me.

@51elephantchang 2 года назад

@FaithnCross An eternity spent with Christians and their god is not the selling point you think it is..

@51elephantchang 2 года назад

@FaithnCross That's the sort of arrogance that drives people away from Christianity.

@daddyaf945 7 лет назад

Ive never seen a conservative who didn't think that a logical argument could be used to prove a point. Will they ever get tired of being wrong? They need to realize that the next step is demonstrating evidence to support their argument. I've seen this in liberals as well but not as much. I suppose that's due to there being evidence for liberal arguments in most cases.

@MrOttopants 7 лет назад

Well, it's not really an accurate start to the argument for the Christian. He defines only three categories- Atheist (doesn't believe), Theist (does believe), Agnostic (Doesn't know). My question about the Agnostic position is this- "What are you agnostic about?" That should demonstrate that his categories are false.

@MrOttopants 7 лет назад

***** "What is it you are agnostic about?" If you can't tell, the answer to that is "belief in a deity". It's a demonstration of the thing you just told me about.

@GeordieGames 5 лет назад

Who's going to get the last laugh?

@daddyaf945 7 лет назад

I do not see atheists as evangelical. Some of us are activist. If the religious establishment weren't attempting to take our rights away we wouldn't have to bother.

@seanarmstrong1156 7 лет назад

Does Phil deny evolution? His gibberish about the "first human" reveals his gross ignorance about how evolution works. Sounds like his understanding of evolution is only equivalent to what one can read about on the wikipedia, instead of actually spending some serious time studying it.

@SecHummer 7 лет назад

That's common for some Christians to accept evolution but don't understand the consequences that flow from it.

@antiphillycheese4776 6 лет назад

SecHummer Christians don't accept ecolution. No proof. Fake like a spinning ball

@51elephantchang 7 лет назад

'sufficiently evolved'???

@triplebackspace3623 7 лет назад

The issue of life after death and the soul , is not just about hope , it has also been tied to the irrational belief of cosmic justice , and has broader ramifications than just hope. It touches on several aspects of our real life , including the abortion and assisted suicide issues. The theist here is oversimplify the issues that belief has in modern society.

@berniedehler5194 7 лет назад

triplebackspace , Maybe so, but I think hope is the centerpoint too because the main fear that humans have is the fear of death, and we have the survival instinct to cope with that. Religious supernatural thoughts glob on to the survival instinct.

@garymunroproject5396 7 лет назад

Regarding #2- Phil said he wouldn't kill Hitler and save 6 million people if given the opportunity. What would he do if someone was going to kill someone that he knows personally(family,friend)? Would he really just look the other way and allow it to happen,and not defend them? Unfortunately,this is what religion does to some people.

@SecHummer 7 лет назад

Gary Munro , religious thinking warps rational thought.

@sunnyhomze4288 6 лет назад

SecHummer Considering you're an atheist you have no objective basis for why that's irrational. Atheism collapses on itself.

@jesusdied4ursins17 6 лет назад

Gary Munro Project Phil wouldn't have killed Hitler because it wouldn't be God's will God plans everything out perfectly

@jesusdied4ursins17 6 лет назад

SecHummer that's why Christianity isn't Religion it's a relationship with the Almighty Creator and a mission to obey and follow Him.

@jesusdied4ursins17 6 лет назад

Gary Munro Project Also Phil isn't perfect He can make mistakes and miscalculate and fail

@dennisneo1608 6 лет назад

God will NOT be mocked!!!!

@lanceatega5511 5 лет назад

I'm feel sad, when I saw him dying and still not believing on god. I wish you realize the thing you should do before the last tik and tok of your life.

@j-joe-jeans 5 лет назад

Why would you be sad he was intellectually honest logical and rational?

@bloccospirale4280 5 лет назад

He died from cancer, why should he believe in a god?

@jesusdied4ursins17 6 лет назад

There is no observable evidence

@ryeken6115 6 лет назад

I hope he found Jesus Christ before his passing. If you have HIM not, who will you find in your last moment. Good luck and God Bless. Jesus is the key to the world.

@j-joe-jeans 5 лет назад

Rationality is the dead blot tho. Your key will not open the lock of logic.

@RaceFanDana 5 лет назад

What do you mean "found Jesus"? Jesus was never lost. Bernie is the one who was lost and he died in willful rejection of God's free gift of salvation. Bernie enjoyed mocking Christians, I exchanged words with him myself on Facebook long ago. Guess what? He's not mocking anyone now. God is mocking him!

@isaacmoore6803 2 года назад

@@RaceFanDana God, the magical sky daddy?

@RaceFanDana 2 года назад

@@isaacmoore6803 : When you die and are in the torment of hell, remember every flippant wisecrack and silly nickname you ever uttered, because I want you to understand why you'll regret it forever and ever.

@isaacmoore6803 2 года назад

@@RaceFanDana Where’s your evidence for hell existing?