@@thelimitingfactor wow this was truly superb viewing. Appreciate the huge amount of time and effort you have put in over the last 18 months. It does however leave me with a few questions that i hope your answers will put me at rest. Firstly Kato Rd was a simple factory with the only major alterations being the addition of a 2nd level for offices. At least that was what we were told. Nonetheless it is a but think that Elon has been taught how to sandbag these days and given that the battery day was back in September sort of tells me that there is a warehouse nearby with a shit ton of batteries stored even though they were saying they were having trouble producing at scale. Some sort of production would have taken place before the reveal of Kato Rd and they are supposedly working 24/7 at that plant. Secondly I am struggling with the diffence between the believed areas for the battery manufacturing plants at Berlin and Texas. From the drone footage of Berlin it shows an enormous amount of seriously heavy duty footings or foundations. Texas on the other hand has nothing like Berlin otherwise they would have built it the same way before they erected the 4 floors above To my recollection there were only 2 pits dug and lined before the structure started taking shape. So here we have 3 different sites for the battery manufacturing and all 3 are vastly different from one another. I know Tesla are fast at changing direction but this is all very confusing to me anyhow. Can you please shed any light on this from what you know cause there is something very mysterious about it and I'd love to know your thoughts. Oh and one last thing. Elon has stated numerous times that Berlin would be the largest battery plant in the world. I know he doesn't mean footprint and is talking KWH but all things considered the area set aside for batteries at Texas is 4 x massive floors. Perhaps Berlin is currently building the cathode plant now and the battery plant comes later and Texas is still yet to build their cathode plant named Operation Bobcat. Rumour is that Bobcat stands for Build Our Battery CATode. Pretty clever hey.
The best praise that I can give to you..... Normally, on RU-vid, I watch all videos, including yours, on 2X speed, because the fluff overwhelms the data. For this video, not only was I forced to downgrade the speed to 1X after the first few impressions, I, at multiple times, was forced to stop the video to absorb the images and data presented! In effect, this video, in my professional and humble opinion, is worth a million bucks. And I am embarrassed and sorry to admit that I have not enough money to pay you for your work..... Truly, you can be proud of this video and the data produced. Your analysis, conclusions, and projections, right or wrong, was well presented, well researched, well documented and supported, and something I could only hope to ever achieve.. It drives me nuts when I see or read a scientific presentation that waffles in their conclusions and convictions. Analysis is an artform and you have exceeded expectations. Good Job, Sir! Thank you.
Procrastination at work has never been more fun. Especially that this is "the last" episode on this series. The Limiting Factor is university grade material. I've learned so much. Thank you.
Wow. Thanks, Jordan, for your clearly organized and thorough presentation. Your research amazes me. Your analysis may top that. What a wonderful future we can anticipate.
I never thought I'd sit through a 1:13:58 presentation on batteries, and yet, here I just did it. You did an awesome job at maintaining my interest. Very valuable info and in ways in which even someone marginally technical can understand. Kudos. And hope you get better from your cold quickly.
WOW. Honestly, if just this episode was a 2-3 part mini series (with and breaks, of course) on Discovery, with Morgan Freeman narrating, it would be hailed as a triumph. Well done indeed.
And he came down from the mountain and carried with him 18 Lithium Mine to Battery Line episodes engraved in silicon! Congratulations Jordan on an epic work of biblical proportions.
@@thelimitingfactor Take a breather, you've outdone yourself! Wash, rinse, repeat. Btw, if Keto started over a year ago, then shouldn't they have ramped to full "mini-gun" chat by 2020Q4? That would mean another 4+ months ahead of your (understandably conservative) timeline to build stocks to allow the new factories to spit cars at near optimal rates from the git go. Possible on the optimistic side? (Ans. "If it has to happen, it will happen.")🤗🤗🤗
I am blown away by the depth and attention to details this video contains. Your are an amazing for doing all this work and sharing your fruits of labor for free.
Thanks man! Kind of for free...it's the Patreon supporters that make it possible :D. But, for those who can't pay in some way, definitely free. This is why I don't put the information on a private site. I want to raise the level of discourse.
Nine month was a long time but up to the last seconds of this video, it was a gentle delivery. Call this baby Elongate....(tusk) ;) Well done Jordan, well done. Thank you
Battery factory has started in Berlin btw, it's difficult as the locals are only allowed to fly drones Fri-Sun, whereas you get daily videos from Texas so there is a lot going on at Berlin we never see, equipment deliveries etc. So despite what some have claimed it's impossible to tell what stage the plant is at.
You've become to Tesla / Batteries what "Everyday Astronaut" is to SpaceX. Deeeeeep dive videos with fantastic understanding of the underlying tech. What an amazing series. Kudos!
Top-level, ultra-professional and comprehensive analysis. Superb work that digs deep into the subject, yet remains compelling viewing. True - your audience needs a fair amount of knowledge in the first place, but that just means your audience is educated and intelligent. Thank you for all the very hard work in this project.
This is stellar work and something to be very proud of. I am so glad I am subscribed to this channel! I hope you will continue to research things that interest you and share it with us, you make very dense subjects fun and interesting, because what is happening is VERY EXCITING!
4:28 The one company in the Tesla supply chain no one is talking about in detail yet (and would love to get other's input) is Queensland Pacific Metals. They are solar powered and use nitric acid leaching at atmospheric pressure to extract all valuable metals from lateritic ore. It is a key reason the project is expected to be less capital intensive than other Australian nickel-cobalt developments based around high pressure acid leach (HPAL) processing technology. Whereas HPAL plants require the use of complex, titanium-lined autoclaves that can withstand high pressure, the DNi Process (Direct Nickel) will allow the use of standard grade stainless steel at atmospheric pressure - much simpler processing equipment. What previously used to require 1.2 tonnes of tailings to 1 tonne of ore is also looking at being recycled. This company solves a lot of issues surrounding nickel in the battery sector as they are zero liquid discharge, zero solids discharge, low greenhouse gas intensive with the possibility to become a zero carbon nickel producer/processor. Their final product is battery grade nickel and cobalt sulfate produced from start to finish in an eco friendly way. From what i've seen this is a world first in the nickel industry, but would like to know more if anyone has researched or knows of any similar companies. p.s. they provide their products to LG Chem who provide to Tesla and possibly also to Samsung (2 of the largest lithium ion battery manufacturers in the EV space globally)
I *really* appreciate the amount of effort you've put into these videos' details and the amount of deep background knowledge you weave into the presentation.
So important to share information and leaning what is happening in the battery world. Good cheap batteries are the the most important part for transforming the world and making the world to expand into new more environmentally friendly way.
You don't need to apologize for having a cold good Sir! Do people actually give negative comments for this? I wouldn't expect that from our community. We owe you for your free informative content.
Duuude, awesome video. And I'm not even that interested in batteries to begin with. That's why I'm all day in youtube because of quality content like this. Congratulations
Thank you for your hard work. this takes me more than an hour to understand(probably 50% of what you try to says) but still it 's really worthy. Great job man!
The battery building in Berlin is still working on foundations. The building in Austin is almost structurally complete. Steel is complete, roof decking is complete, concrete at the above floor levels is above 60% complete. The final roof is most likely a month away if the weather cooperates. Upper levels will finish concrete in the same or less. Plumbing is already being worked on at ground level. The Cathode building is still completing foundation work, rain has slowed down the dirt work.
So much to unpack. Impressive assembly of Tesla battery production information. At the next Tesla Battery Day presentation I expect to see Jordan on the stage.
Goodness Jordan, this is your best video yet. And considering the massive trove of information, including detail blueprints, plans and battery manufacturing process descriptions for the Battery Factory in Berlin that was uncovered by Tobias Lindh on Twitter today, you will have material for the rest of the year (at least). Thank you!
This kind of research, costs thousands of USD for the corporate clients. Appreciate this folks! - we are lucky, soooo lucky. I'm so grateful to Jordan for publishing it for free on RU-vid! Thank you!
I am truly impressed with the level of detail you have provided alongside your genuine insight and useful interpretation. Hats off to the brilliant work you done! Liked and sub`ed for sure.
very, very, very useful and valuable informations in such a clear, organized sentences! Even for non-English natives! It has been great ride with the channel and no doubt I`d be waiting with the time to come. Keep it up!
Dude, this was so long and SO amazing. It took me ages to finish it while I'm doing my work, but it was well worth it. Of course, now I have to start it over so I can actually understand it this time around. An awful lot to chew on, right here.
Possibly the best video regarding Tesla that I've seen. One point on the Model 2 production - you took the $9k battery cost of the Model 3 and halved it for 4680 cells, but that assumed that the Model 2 would also use around a 75KWh pack did it not? With being 20% smaller and lighter, the Model 2, to achieve a 300 mile range, could probably do that with only a 50KWh battery could it not? Which would put the cost of the battery pack down from $4,500 to below $3,000 perhaps?
Thanks James! I applied the 20% cost reduction, but you are correct, it would likely be more! 🤠 I was trying to keep it simple. Definitely not a linear relationship.
Absolutely amazing content and research. I may become a Patreon simply based on the amount of research and value you provide. Much is still over my head, but I think I follow the major points. Super helpful as an informed investor. Keep up the great work!
Great video! One question. How big (net capacity in kWh) you think the new TMS/TMX battery packs will be? If I understand correctly you said you expect lower then the previous 100 TMS/TMX.
The cold gas thrusters may push Roadster beyond supercar into hypercar territory. Plaid Model S will become the most affordable sub 2 second supercar ever produced. Will probably go on to become the largest production run of a sub 2 second car ever. While passengers play games in the back seat. It will truly live up to its own hype!
This is the problem with some Tesla YT channels, they don’t see the battery raw materials shortage. Mines take 4-7 years to finally be fully permitted, the battery supply chain needs to be made aware to everyone. Especially graphite* anode material since it’s in every battery cell chemistry and it’s forecasted to have a supply shortage by 2023!
Jordan your Video's are always over and above, I can't believe all the info you have packed into this Video. Really appreciate all the effort you put in. 🙂
Because they have plenty of orders for the regular plaid and it would simply be to add range. Those cells can be used for other things and they can always upgrade to plaid plus later :).