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#18 Nine Months of Research on Tesla Battery Day // + Projections! 

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@LannisterFromDaRock
@LannisterFromDaRock 3 года назад
2:40 I always wanted to extract some clay from my lithium. Lol :D
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Whoops! Reverse that 🤓
@MariusKruger
@MariusKruger 3 года назад
Was just about to post that lol XD
@hmspain52
@hmspain52 3 года назад
Just seeing if you were paying attention! LOL
@aussie_al
@aussie_al 3 года назад
@@thelimitingfactor wow this was truly superb viewing. Appreciate the huge amount of time and effort you have put in over the last 18 months. It does however leave me with a few questions that i hope your answers will put me at rest. Firstly Kato Rd was a simple factory with the only major alterations being the addition of a 2nd level for offices. At least that was what we were told. Nonetheless it is a but think that Elon has been taught how to sandbag these days and given that the battery day was back in September sort of tells me that there is a warehouse nearby with a shit ton of batteries stored even though they were saying they were having trouble producing at scale. Some sort of production would have taken place before the reveal of Kato Rd and they are supposedly working 24/7 at that plant. Secondly I am struggling with the diffence between the believed areas for the battery manufacturing plants at Berlin and Texas. From the drone footage of Berlin it shows an enormous amount of seriously heavy duty footings or foundations. Texas on the other hand has nothing like Berlin otherwise they would have built it the same way before they erected the 4 floors above To my recollection there were only 2 pits dug and lined before the structure started taking shape. So here we have 3 different sites for the battery manufacturing and all 3 are vastly different from one another. I know Tesla are fast at changing direction but this is all very confusing to me anyhow. Can you please shed any light on this from what you know cause there is something very mysterious about it and I'd love to know your thoughts. Oh and one last thing. Elon has stated numerous times that Berlin would be the largest battery plant in the world. I know he doesn't mean footprint and is talking KWH but all things considered the area set aside for batteries at Texas is 4 x massive floors. Perhaps Berlin is currently building the cathode plant now and the battery plant comes later and Texas is still yet to build their cathode plant named Operation Bobcat. Rumour is that Bobcat stands for Build Our Battery CATode. Pretty clever hey.
@cambrown5633
@cambrown5633 3 года назад
We'll finally have an easy way to get our hands on all that valuable clay!
@Zedus-rl9hp
@Zedus-rl9hp 3 года назад
Some: nothing new was announced on battery day, all boring The Limiting Factor: talks about it for more than 6 hours Nice work, i love this series.
@dalerichardson7202
@dalerichardson7202 3 года назад
The best praise that I can give to you..... Normally, on RU-vid, I watch all videos, including yours, on 2X speed, because the fluff overwhelms the data. For this video, not only was I forced to downgrade the speed to 1X after the first few impressions, I, at multiple times, was forced to stop the video to absorb the images and data presented! In effect, this video, in my professional and humble opinion, is worth a million bucks. And I am embarrassed and sorry to admit that I have not enough money to pay you for your work..... Truly, you can be proud of this video and the data produced. Your analysis, conclusions, and projections, right or wrong, was well presented, well researched, well documented and supported, and something I could only hope to ever achieve.. It drives me nuts when I see or read a scientific presentation that waffles in their conclusions and convictions. Analysis is an artform and you have exceeded expectations. Good Job, Sir! Thank you.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Yeah, these videos take some chewing, lol All good, not everyone can support the channel financially, but I appreciate the kind words!
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH 3 года назад
C'mon, now! It's only a few bucks/mo & think of how much this moderates downside FUD pressure on our investments (assuming you have a few shares).
@garywilburn7384
@garywilburn7384 3 года назад
I fast forwarded on your reply using x3.0 speed, as it was filled with enough fluff data i fell asleep 3x trying to read it.
@dalerichardson7202
@dalerichardson7202 3 года назад
@@garywilburn7384 lol Thanks!
@AlexandruJalea
@AlexandruJalea 3 года назад
Procrastination at work has never been more fun. Especially that this is "the last" episode on this series. The Limiting Factor is university grade material. I've learned so much. Thank you.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 года назад
Boss looks across.... Sees puzzled look on your face... Realises it's Monday... "Are you watching TLF at work again!!??" 😁
@AlexandruJalea
@AlexandruJalea 3 года назад
@@rogerstarkey5390 🤣😂
@madhusudhan1604
@madhusudhan1604 3 года назад
Knowledge is new entertainment for me
@737smartin
@737smartin 3 года назад
Edu-tainment is the term I’ve heard for it. I’m right there with ya. 🤯 👍
@madhusudhan1604
@madhusudhan1604 3 года назад
@@737smartin I thought I was the first one to come up with this quote😅
@rorymc2000
@rorymc2000 Год назад
Bingo you are right!! I find it hard to watch normal TV as I am not learning I love RU-vid as I can learn about anything I want
@j3ggy
@j3ggy Год назад
Its addictive
@bkinstler
@bkinstler 3 года назад
Thank you for everything you’ve done on this series and all your other work. It should be required viewing for any serious investor.
@dirkkruisheer
@dirkkruisheer 3 года назад
Agreed!
@RiCKTEEZ
@RiCKTEEZ 3 года назад
The work that went into this video is amazing 🤯
@paulbutler362
@paulbutler362 3 года назад
This has to be the most well-researched RU-vid video I have ever seen. Remarkable and very helpful to Tesla investors. Well done! Thank you!
@Mr2winners
@Mr2winners 3 года назад
Everydayastonaut's documentary's on rockets are pretty deep down the rabit hole as well
@reggiebald2830
@reggiebald2830 3 года назад
@@Mr2winners As is Ticker Symbol U for ArkInvest. Brainiaks are awesome!
@christopherrubicam4474
@christopherrubicam4474 3 года назад
Wow. Thanks, Jordan, for your clearly organized and thorough presentation. Your research amazes me. Your analysis may top that. What a wonderful future we can anticipate.
@fanfare100
@fanfare100 3 года назад
I never thought I'd sit through a 1:13:58 presentation on batteries, and yet, here I just did it. You did an awesome job at maintaining my interest. Very valuable info and in ways in which even someone marginally technical can understand. Kudos. And hope you get better from your cold quickly.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 года назад
WOW. Honestly, if just this episode was a 2-3 part mini series (with and breaks, of course) on Discovery, with Morgan Freeman narrating, it would be hailed as a triumph. Well done indeed.
@23428jp
@23428jp 3 года назад
I'd say that with your cold lowering your voice, you sound just as about as good as Morgan.. Great narration!
@pdadey
@pdadey 3 года назад
And he came down from the mountain and carried with him 18 Lithium Mine to Battery Line episodes engraved in silicon! Congratulations Jordan on an epic work of biblical proportions.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
🤣🤜🤛
@johnteran8889
@johnteran8889 3 года назад
Watched your entire series. What a wild ride. Thank you.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
🤜🏻🤛🏻 Thanks for watching John! You're most welcome! Impressed. Some of it was pretty damned dense...most in fact, lol.
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH 3 года назад
@@thelimitingfactor Take a breather, you've outdone yourself! Wash, rinse, repeat. Btw, if Keto started over a year ago, then shouldn't they have ramped to full "mini-gun" chat by 2020Q4? That would mean another 4+ months ahead of your (understandably conservative) timeline to build stocks to allow the new factories to spit cars at near optimal rates from the git go. Possible on the optimistic side? (Ans. "If it has to happen, it will happen.")🤗🤗🤗
@kenyattamaasai
@kenyattamaasai 3 года назад
You are a rockstar, my friend. This series has been erudite, edifying and fascinating - thank you so much!
@robinrutschman
@robinrutschman 3 года назад
I am blown away by the depth and attention to details this video contains. Your are an amazing for doing all this work and sharing your fruits of labor for free.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Thanks man! Kind of for free...it's the Patreon supporters that make it possible :D. But, for those who can't pay in some way, definitely free. This is why I don't put the information on a private site. I want to raise the level of discourse.
@legacytesla
@legacytesla 3 года назад
This was really incredible work. Thank you.
@Finlaymacnab
@Finlaymacnab 3 года назад
Congratulations on a truly monumental effort. It's going to fun (and profitable) to benchmark your predictions vs the real world in the coming years!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Fingers crossed! 😀
@waveney42
@waveney42 3 года назад
Love the series, so nice to come across a stream with real content, real technology, real chemistry and real physics.
@DaveDugdaleColorado
@DaveDugdaleColorado 3 года назад
Wow, this was fantastic! Thank you.
@maxhaschke4966
@maxhaschke4966 3 года назад
Hot Damn, you did it.
@wallykramer7566
@wallykramer7566 3 года назад
Wow, Jordon. This is truly impressive work!. It looks like I'll have to view it again to make adequate sense of it all.
@mr.nonair9605
@mr.nonair9605 3 года назад
Nine month was a long time but up to the last seconds of this video, it was a gentle delivery. Call this baby Elongate....(tusk) ;) Well done Jordan, well done. Thank you
@gmoncrieff
@gmoncrieff 3 года назад
Battery factory has started in Berlin btw, it's difficult as the locals are only allowed to fly drones Fri-Sun, whereas you get daily videos from Texas so there is a lot going on at Berlin we never see, equipment deliveries etc. So despite what some have claimed it's impossible to tell what stage the plant is at.
@kevinbarry4554
@kevinbarry4554 3 года назад
Phenomenal work, I've been binge watching your series and it is some of the more detailed and informative work on youtube.
@alisonl6767
@alisonl6767 3 года назад
Amazing work. Love this. Thanks for breaking everything down SO clearly and yet concisely. A++!!
@roberto3624
@roberto3624 3 года назад
This video is INSANE! Best video EVER on Tesla.
@StudioTaijutsu
@StudioTaijutsu 3 года назад
Congrats on making it to the end of the series; I can imagine it was an incredible amount of work and research! Thank you for your contribution!! 😊
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Thanks for sticking in there! :D
@devonwatkis6152
@devonwatkis6152 3 года назад
Jordan: This is one of the most comprehensive Analysis I have seen on Tesla so far. Thanks for sharing.
@andrewpintar1620
@andrewpintar1620 3 года назад
You've become to Tesla / Batteries what "Everyday Astronaut" is to SpaceX. Deeeeeep dive videos with fantastic understanding of the underlying tech. What an amazing series. Kudos!
@BeastPoint1
@BeastPoint1 3 года назад
9 months of research deserves lots of likes and comments. Well done in providing this information to everyone.
@tonysimi1776
@tonysimi1776 3 года назад
Wow so in-depth. Congratulations the entire series. It's an Analytical work of art!
@thetagmarket1058
@thetagmarket1058 3 года назад
Top-level, ultra-professional and comprehensive analysis. Superb work that digs deep into the subject, yet remains compelling viewing. True - your audience needs a fair amount of knowledge in the first place, but that just means your audience is educated and intelligent. Thank you for all the very hard work in this project.
@goodyKoeln
@goodyKoeln 3 года назад
Here have over 1h of “key points” 😅 I love your dedication!
@helmutshotthesheriff1942
@helmutshotthesheriff1942 3 года назад
Again an AMAZING video from Jordan 👍👍👍😎🍺🍻 Please all of us : let's support the brilliant work of that man ! 🗽
@patches8291
@patches8291 3 года назад
Fantastic info Jordan! Thank you for all of your hard work.
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 3 года назад
This is stellar work and something to be very proud of. I am so glad I am subscribed to this channel! I hope you will continue to research things that interest you and share it with us, you make very dense subjects fun and interesting, because what is happening is VERY EXCITING!
@FidgetSpinoza
@FidgetSpinoza 3 года назад
Thank you Jordan. You're an inspiration.
@watchyoursix8841
@watchyoursix8841 3 года назад
Well done! This was better than a movie.
@broenmail
@broenmail 3 года назад
An impressive series of relevant knowledge - Thank you again :)
@benchpresspapi
@benchpresspapi 3 года назад
4:28 The one company in the Tesla supply chain no one is talking about in detail yet (and would love to get other's input) is Queensland Pacific Metals. They are solar powered and use nitric acid leaching at atmospheric pressure to extract all valuable metals from lateritic ore. It is a key reason the project is expected to be less capital intensive than other Australian nickel-cobalt developments based around high pressure acid leach (HPAL) processing technology. Whereas HPAL plants require the use of complex, titanium-lined autoclaves that can withstand high pressure, the DNi Process (Direct Nickel) will allow the use of standard grade stainless steel at atmospheric pressure - much simpler processing equipment. What previously used to require 1.2 tonnes of tailings to 1 tonne of ore is also looking at being recycled. This company solves a lot of issues surrounding nickel in the battery sector as they are zero liquid discharge, zero solids discharge, low greenhouse gas intensive with the possibility to become a zero carbon nickel producer/processor. Their final product is battery grade nickel and cobalt sulfate produced from start to finish in an eco friendly way. From what i've seen this is a world first in the nickel industry, but would like to know more if anyone has researched or knows of any similar companies. p.s. they provide their products to LG Chem who provide to Tesla and possibly also to Samsung (2 of the largest lithium ion battery manufacturers in the EV space globally)
@elderscrollsstoic
@elderscrollsstoic 3 года назад
interesting, i dont think there is anything similar to that from what i know
@TeNgaere
@TeNgaere 3 года назад
Wow! That is the most complete and comprehensive coverage of telsa cells I have ever seen. Well done seems like a trite understatement !!!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Thanks for your support Marvin!
@jarrodvsinclair
@jarrodvsinclair 3 года назад
Love that you reference so another great RU-vidrs work and give them credit. Great info! Keep it up
@alanmcintyre9296
@alanmcintyre9296 3 года назад
I *really* appreciate the amount of effort you've put into these videos' details and the amount of deep background knowledge you weave into the presentation.
@MrBadgas
@MrBadgas 3 года назад
Amazing work and a great finale! Thank you for all your efforts shining light on all of these various factors. Fascinating stuff.
@jacklangford6837
@jacklangford6837 3 года назад
This type of dedication is amazing!!!!
@Rod_Knee
@Rod_Knee 3 года назад
You're videos are absolutely top-tier, Jordan.
@Top12Boardsport
@Top12Boardsport 2 года назад
So important to share information and leaning what is happening in the battery world. Good cheap batteries are the the most important part for transforming the world and making the world to expand into new more environmentally friendly way.
@tobiasmmueller
@tobiasmmueller 3 года назад
Yes, a new limiting-factor-video!
@jon2016
@jon2016 3 года назад
Bravo! Absolutely brilliant series and summary. Thank you.
@AggieSpace
@AggieSpace 3 года назад
Great job! I have a feeling I'll be rewatching this from time-to-time.
@JaiUneGuruDeja
@JaiUneGuruDeja 3 года назад
Keep that gravelly Maury Safer-like voice, Jordon. Love the extra gravitas.
@OuterSpaceDogs
@OuterSpaceDogs Год назад
The BEST channel about EV Battery Science.
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 3 года назад
Amazing piece of work THANK YOU.
@terryhalsteadgamer
@terryhalsteadgamer 3 года назад
You don't need to apologize for having a cold good Sir! Do people actually give negative comments for this? I wouldn't expect that from our community. We owe you for your free informative content.
@SamFigueroa
@SamFigueroa 3 года назад
The amount of work that went into this series is amazing. Great work.
@felipecogo4671
@felipecogo4671 3 года назад
Excellent! watching from Brazil!
@markedwards4879
@markedwards4879 3 года назад
This is just brilliant content. Thankyou for the immense amount of effort you’ve put into this series and even into this video.
@vipondiu
@vipondiu 3 года назад
Duuude, awesome video. And I'm not even that interested in batteries to begin with. That's why I'm all day in youtube because of quality content like this. Congratulations
@JoaoSilva22222
@JoaoSilva22222 3 года назад
Buddy, this video changed my mind. You got me to watch this complex maze of stuff in a sitting and sitll enjoy it. Thank you so much!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TimothyParker1
@TimothyParker1 3 года назад
Great series! We are now relative experts on battery chemistry, production and analysis because of you. (Relative compared to most investors...)
@amiman23
@amiman23 3 года назад
You are so blessed with the voice you have. You could go pro.
@Josh-cp4el
@Josh-cp4el 3 года назад
Awesome, always top quality content Jordan! 😎👏
@305dreamhonda
@305dreamhonda 3 года назад
Nice work! Thank you! We live in an amazing time! Let’s hope it’s a peaceful time and we pull together to realize our potential.
@ment.4606
@ment.4606 3 года назад
Thank you for your hard work. this takes me more than an hour to understand(probably 50% of what you try to says) but still it 's really worthy. Great job man!
@belzvon
@belzvon 3 года назад
Your videos are very educational and I cannot imagine how much time and hard work you put in them. Thank you!
@stevem3439
@stevem3439 3 года назад
👌 so good, popcorn is included. Top notch researcher and jounalist. 😎👊
@Captain_Jack711
@Captain_Jack711 3 года назад
That was excellent, thank you for this series
@reggiebald2830
@reggiebald2830 3 года назад
Long time coming. Congratulations! Truly amazing work Jordon! Get your health back soon! Thanks!
@michaelsmith2723
@michaelsmith2723 3 года назад
The battery building in Berlin is still working on foundations. The building in Austin is almost structurally complete. Steel is complete, roof decking is complete, concrete at the above floor levels is above 60% complete. The final roof is most likely a month away if the weather cooperates. Upper levels will finish concrete in the same or less. Plumbing is already being worked on at ground level. The Cathode building is still completing foundation work, rain has slowed down the dirt work.
@LoneWolf-wp9dn
@LoneWolf-wp9dn 3 года назад
Also looking forward to that Lithium-Sulfur series :)
@giansolomon
@giansolomon 3 года назад
Reminiscing your rise from pre O'Reilly Auto parts intro ad to wiki-battery mainstay. You've (deservedly) come a long way. 💪🏼
@jamesdubben3687
@jamesdubben3687 3 года назад
Very information dense. Even as a casual observer I will come back to this for reference. Most pauses/min of any youtube video. Huge thanks.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
LOL, yeah, it's an information firehose
@christianvanderstap6257
@christianvanderstap6257 3 года назад
Very nice summary, hope you are well again!
@SxWerks
@SxWerks 3 года назад
So much to unpack. Impressive assembly of Tesla battery production information. At the next Tesla Battery Day presentation I expect to see Jordan on the stage.
@buckeyechris21
@buckeyechris21 3 года назад
Goodness Jordan, this is your best video yet. And considering the massive trove of information, including detail blueprints, plans and battery manufacturing process descriptions for the Battery Factory in Berlin that was uncovered by Tobias Lindh on Twitter today, you will have material for the rest of the year (at least). Thank you!
@faluffel
@faluffel 3 года назад
Absolutely amazing research! Much love for sharing!
@OniMetsuki
@OniMetsuki 3 года назад
Very good info and well worth the watch. Thanks for all your hard work in making this one !
@Val-sl6ng
@Val-sl6ng 3 года назад
This kind of research, costs thousands of USD for the corporate clients. Appreciate this folks! - we are lucky, soooo lucky. I'm so grateful to Jordan for publishing it for free on RU-vid! Thank you!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
My pleasure!
@davidfenwick987
@davidfenwick987 3 года назад
Wow. A massive amount of work must have gone into this. Thank you.
@tamirpdx
@tamirpdx 3 года назад
Such a great work. Thanks for the effort and job well done.
@canbeyhan7538
@canbeyhan7538 3 года назад
I am truly impressed with the level of detail you have provided alongside your genuine insight and useful interpretation. Hats off to the brilliant work you done! Liked and sub`ed for sure.
@bbcooter388
@bbcooter388 3 года назад
Excellent review !!! Thank you for all your hard work !!!!
@rgeraldalexander4278
@rgeraldalexander4278 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing this great battery technology.
@rajatharikeri1639
@rajatharikeri1639 3 года назад
The most underrated channel
@정원기-d8i
@정원기-d8i 3 года назад
very, very, very useful and valuable informations in such a clear, organized sentences! Even for non-English natives! It has been great ride with the channel and no doubt I`d be waiting with the time to come. Keep it up!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
🤜🤛🤠
@vvattup
@vvattup 3 года назад
Visual graphics are flawless 👍🏼
@FutureAZA
@FutureAZA 3 года назад
Dude, this was so long and SO amazing. It took me ages to finish it while I'm doing my work, but it was well worth it. Of course, now I have to start it over so I can actually understand it this time around. An awful lot to chew on, right here.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MultiVfc
@MultiVfc 3 года назад
Great series! Waiting the next ones
@jamesloveridgephotography
@jamesloveridgephotography 3 года назад
Possibly the best video regarding Tesla that I've seen. One point on the Model 2 production - you took the $9k battery cost of the Model 3 and halved it for 4680 cells, but that assumed that the Model 2 would also use around a 75KWh pack did it not? With being 20% smaller and lighter, the Model 2, to achieve a 300 mile range, could probably do that with only a 50KWh battery could it not? Which would put the cost of the battery pack down from $4,500 to below $3,000 perhaps?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Thanks James! I applied the 20% cost reduction, but you are correct, it would likely be more! 🤠 I was trying to keep it simple. Definitely not a linear relationship.
@michoxi
@michoxi 3 года назад
Impressive detail and clarity!
@philborer877
@philborer877 3 года назад
Extra extra extraordinary. So so Good! Thank you very much!
@ghgilland
@ghgilland 3 года назад
Absolutely amazing content and research. I may become a Patreon simply based on the amount of research and value you provide. Much is still over my head, but I think I follow the major points. Super helpful as an informed investor. Keep up the great work!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
🤜🤛🤠
@patriksteffan2060
@patriksteffan2060 3 года назад
Great video! One question. How big (net capacity in kWh) you think the new TMS/TMX battery packs will be? If I understand correctly you said you expect lower then the previous 100 TMS/TMX.
@no_more_free_nicks
@no_more_free_nicks 3 года назад
So many months following the battery day, excellent material.
@mhfs61
@mhfs61 3 года назад
Watched this one twice and probably will revisit it shortly. What an achievement Jordan. Thank you. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@wineberryred
@wineberryred 3 года назад
Replace the Plaid+ with Roadster. Elon wants to take the supercar crown.
@Nphen
@Nphen 3 года назад
The cold gas thrusters may push Roadster beyond supercar into hypercar territory. Plaid Model S will become the most affordable sub 2 second supercar ever produced. Will probably go on to become the largest production run of a sub 2 second car ever. While passengers play games in the back seat. It will truly live up to its own hype!
@predawn2620
@predawn2620 3 года назад
This is the problem with some Tesla YT channels, they don’t see the battery raw materials shortage. Mines take 4-7 years to finally be fully permitted, the battery supply chain needs to be made aware to everyone. Especially graphite* anode material since it’s in every battery cell chemistry and it’s forecasted to have a supply shortage by 2023!
@TeslaElectron
@TeslaElectron 2 года назад
Jordan your Video's are always over and above, I can't believe all the info you have packed into this Video. Really appreciate all the effort you put in. 🙂
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 2 года назад
You're most welcome buddy!
@Faucheur19912u
@Faucheur19912u 3 года назад
Can you do a piece on the new lithium extraction method that they just discovered from saltwater -> chroride + H2 + Li? seems interesting
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 года назад
Because they have plenty of orders for the regular plaid and it would simply be to add range. Those cells can be used for other things and they can always upgrade to plaid plus later :).
@oisiaa
@oisiaa 3 года назад
This is a hell of a video. Wow. Great work!
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