186. CONCEIVED IN LIBERTY with Michael Saylor & Patrick Newman on Murray Rothbard 

We are so lucky to be alive with Michael Saylor who is quite possibly one of the smartest people ever to walk this planet. Incredible insight as always.

What a banger!! Saylor’s mind is a treasure trove of insights. This is like a university course for free

Never gets old listening to saylor.

Epic Saylor!! Man I tell ya what.....I honestly love learning from this fella! He's amazing!! I know more about American history than my own country! The knowledge he has and the way he explains it.....just awesome!! Some would say he talks too much!? But there's talking shit and nonsense, and then there's talking from research and expertise! Saylor has bucket loads of the latter!! Thanks again for another excellent podcast mate, really appreciate everything you're doing for us! Cheers

Absolutely amazing conversation between three of the most knowledgeable guys on economic history - thank you!

This is a great companion video to watch along while reading both Conceived in Liberty and An Austrian Perspective on the History of Economic Thought. Or to go back to after reading those books for a summa.

Michael saylor and Saif? you know this is gonna be a good one

If you really think about it…not a single one of us can know the future for sure but the one thing I know for sure is that the past sounds pretty shitty and I am willing to step into the Bitcoin future for sure - no matter how long it takes to get here….I just hope I can convince my kids and my grandkids and we can keep this future growing and thriving!

This would have a million views already if more people had actual intellectual curiosity

Can’t wait until the next episode!

Thank you for this discussion.

The quest for 'Lifestyle Liberty' was "Conceived In Liberty" many moons ago... fascinating podcast. Thank you guys.

Pretty insightful conversation providing a new perspective on how human history is endless source of wealth if we know how to read it with the intention to learn, to grow and build together as one world community that cares. Thank you.

I like when they say the word BITCOIN ❤

The dream team assemble again

Great podcast can’t wait for the next one! 🧠

Thank you people for all what you doing for us!! I m so in love with Btc and all u nice people ❤❤❤❤❤

Their is a level of intelligence these men have its incredible

It’s amazing the way Saylor can communicate ideas and stories, loved the segment when he spoked about the different empires colonizing the continent of America, specifically about the rulers being so far away to enforce their rules, myself being from south America, there’s this curious event that happened with the portuguese empire prior to Napoleon reaching their territory they decided to move all of their empire’s administrative structure as well as the emperor and all of its noblemen to brazil, crazy story

14:37 Guys the audio book is on RU-vid. I’m going to give it a listen

Huge thanks!

I never knew that Michael Saylor is such a huge intellectual.

I am going to start listening to it right after this Pod.

Outstanding commentary on history allows for totally new perspectives. New idea: Bitcoin has discovered one of the greatest minds of modern history Giga Chad! If your not paying attention you should be !

Such a good listen! Couldn’t help but laugh as he described how the native Americans got screws over and over and over again. They certainly got the short end of the stick. Goes to show that private property rights, technology, and innovation triumph again and again

Patrick newman a genius

Need an episode with Michael Saylor on the Austrian Perspective on the History of Economic Thought.

I've started on the 60 hour version of Conceived in Liberty on audiobook. Is there any way you could share the rest of that list you passed to Michael Saylor for those who are driven to read and learn more?? Cliff Janke, El Paso Texas.

Rothbard-pilling Michael Saylor was not on my bingo card but my god am I here for it.

Yes, the replacement of DOI with the Articles of Federation and Constitution is the most disastrous part of American history.

Very good

Saylor for pres

i am going to be honest here i liked the video before i listened to the whole thing.

This is an amazing time-saver for people who want to focus on *solutions.* Rothbard is almost perfect in his historical analysis...but grotesquely flawed when proposing solutions (though, not as flawed as SEK3).

Saylor would've made a great Hollywood screenwriter.

Thank you.

I need to get into this tome

Does priciples of economics cover primordial economic dynamics?

Feels like The Enlightenment 9.0.

The Michael Saylor I was died forever. The Patrick Newman I was died forever.

Mr. Saylor; I don't suppose you've ever read G.K. Chesterton's The Everlasting Man, have you? Great book.

MashAllah saifedean ammous actually stayed over at michael saylor house 😅 what a G

Most people miss this, so don't take this as a criticism, but the "separation of church and state" is a Christian principal based on Sphere of Sovernty Doctrine and that is why the Cristian founders of America adopted it. Likewise natural rights, the modern justice system, "liberalism" and scientific rationalism are outgrowths of Christian Presuppositions. In other words all the societal and organizing best practices listed by these two are religious in origin and nature (still today). It is true there was much evil, corruption and failure that took place to get us there but several of their dichotomies are false and irrational or best case over-simplified. BTC FTW.

That's a real Van Gogh behind him. He just used an old TV as the frame.

It helps if you take the land from a weak, unarmed people, as the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Palestinians, by the way, had documentation of ownership of their land.

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There are huge ancient pyramids in America.

If the native Americans didn't have metal working then how did some random Indians going through the colonists' trash, know how to melt the governor's silver ash tray to a tobacco pipe while keeping the stamp of the king intact?

We keep hearing the repeating story of the people rebelling against their ruler in European and early American times. Yet I am interested in the dynamic between Indians and their tribe. Did they hate it as much? I think not.

I think it's only the last 5000 years that we had endless wars. As the rise and fall of our consciousness goes in cycles.

Is that an original Van Gogh?

5 Myths We are controlled by 5 MYTHS; in order they are: 1 Religion, 2 Law, 3. Money, 4 The Nation State and 5 Ownership. All myths! All human behaviour in modern times is controlled by a "hierarchy" of 5 MYTHS! Myth 1. RELIGION ( belief in someone's version of right and wrong, good and bad - with a "Fear Narrative; " do the right thing and you will be rewarded in some mythical place (and conversely, you will be punished if you stop believing) - Then, as people questioned this "Blind Faith" system, it was immediately backed up with the second myth in the hierarchy; Myth 2. LAW - As faith failed to control people, force was used to get people to comply. Myth 3. MONEY -paying the self-appointed leaders and "landowners" for food to eat and to pay troops "loyal" to those enforcing the law (false trust) and those spreading religious nonsense and fear. Myth 4. "THE NATION STATE," wrap people in a flag and tell them the "others" (wrapped in other flags, with different religion, laws and leaders who (we are usually told) "want your stuff" and to change the way you live ( “loss of liberty” threat) what’s worse, they are "coming to get you"; so you need to fight for your "rights" (which we also just “invented”). This logical sequence of events required the 5th and final Myth in the hierarchy; - 5. "OWNERSHIP"; How can a human own a piece of a 4.5-billion-year-old planet that no one has any "right" to above any other? If I take something from you by force, is it mine? Historical conquests and even as far back to when we were forager hunters 200 000 years ago (which we were for 93% of our existence remember!) does not mean we "own" the land and can pass it on for generations because someone won a battle for some king or leader? How stupid! Says who? MYTHS! all of it. (Quite brilliant for controlling behaviour, BUT it’s only as real as we choose to make it, we invented this "Society", we can end it by living differently, fairly and without fear being a key driver of our identity. #Bitcoin

Yes, we won with guerilla warfare. That is why British historians call us pirates (The older term for terrorist).

Wind him up. Let him go. Pay attention and take notes…

Saif, is Patrick your white name? (16:15) 😜

It’s as if there are currently two worlds or two histories of the world being written in all our minds. There is the world from which we all came (which based on history has been pretty shit I reckon) and which we expect the future to be-because we are basing our future expectations on what the past has taught us. Then there is the future on the Bitcoin standard-which we all have trouble accepting because it is the future of hope and prosperity that we all have been seeking-or at least it’s is the future that has the most hope of prosperity and peace by default as we don’t know how that future plays out but based on how Bitcoin is growing there is little hope for those currently in power to stop it and when they do the calculations on trying to stop it - they realize they are too late and that it’s better to just accept it for why it is and try to get as much of it as one can so as not to be completely left behind.

Cacciatori raccoglitori non avevano un aspettativa di vita di 35 anni che invece è la media, l'aspettativa media di vita degli europei del tempo non credo fosse molto migliore

Blackrock FOMO

To paraphrase: the land was awesome, religions and corruption kept messing with things, meanwhile, thankfully everyone just wanted to Netflix and Chill.

The archeology shows that they had great technologies and civilization at some point. But we do not know what happened to it. it probably got killed and destroyed by wars and socialistic economies.

"Conceived in Liberty" by Murray Rothbard, has faced lots of criticism for several reasons: - Biased Approach: Rothbard's heavy reliance on Austrian economics and libertarian ideology can result in a biased interpretation of history, where his personal views sometimes overshadow factual events. - Imbalanced Narrative: Rothbard's strong libertarian stance may lead to an imbalanced narrative, as he is seen as neglecting or downplaying aspects of history that don't align with his ideology, potentially leaving gaps in the understanding of events. - Simplification: Rothbard's writing style simplifies complex historical and economic concepts, making the book accessible but potentially oversimplifying intricate historical events and economic systems. - Narrow Focus: Rothbard's emphasis on economic factors as the primary driver of historical events neglect the role of social, cultural, and political factors in shaping American history. - Controversial Interpretations: Rothbard's libertarian perspective has led to interpretations of key events, such as the American Revolution, that differ significantly from mainstream historical accounts, leading to disputes among historians. In a nutshell: it is a piece of writing similar to those we find in cults. Anyone can confirm this by the behaviour of those who are his fans and never accept any criticism because they worship Rothbard as some people worship religious leaders.

Sounds like w crazy time

Why do Millennials refuse to pronounce their t

Patrick's opening statement is like 5 minutes of noise. Are you nervous man? Jesus, nothing noteworthy was said, I should've skipped it.

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Um...there was plenty of "reason" prior to the enlightenment. However, the eventual loss of private property through the seeds of Marxism ....now that DID begin with the enlightenment.

38:30 The Founding Fathers did not advocate for seperation of religion & state. Quite the opposite, in fact. They relied on the concept of God, as a means to preserve the individuals sovereignty. So much so, that they wrote God in to the Constitution: "All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights..." These were, on the most part, profoundly religious men.

I can only see our freedom being eroded to zero you just got a taste of Andrew Tate Jordan Peterson it's obvious to any one with a micron of self thought this doesn't come across as credible

man... this guy should've let Saylor talk more... when you speak to Michael Saylor you have to remind yourself you were given two ears and one mouth for a reason...

1:44:39 #Bitcoin isnt a more powerful currency than #Gold bc bitcoin imo hasnt even lasted a whole century yet meanwhile gold & #Silver have been around for thousands of years. Bitcoin has the capability of being more powerful than gold but only if its a proven store of value nd its got at least 💯 years under its belt