193 - Power Carving with the Arbortech TURBOPlane 

You really are the best teacher i've seen in a while. I really appreciate your willingness to share your mistakes, and your solutions. Makes me feel OK to make mistakes and being be OK with that. Appreciate the safety shield and hearing protection ideas. Really like the turboplane, can't wait to get one.

Have you considered the Holey Gallahad series of abrasive grinder disks? I used the medium coarseness disk to knock out a couple of Windsor chair seats a few months ago and it was a breeze to shift the bulk of the carving with. It allows for plenty of control over how finely I worked and they have the added benefit of being able to see relatively well through the holed body of the disk. I also used the Arbortech mini-grinder attachment with the sanding disk attachment to clean up the seat after

This is a fantastic video. I would suggest instead of going from the turbo plane directly to a rasp, use a disc sander for a grinder as a middle step to quickly smooth out curves and and high points then move onto rasps and scrapers.

Great video, thank you for sharing.

If you are going to hang it on the wall, it needs hole in the middle!,,,,that looked like a lot of fun by the way great video.

David Marks / WoodWorks is largely responsible for my interest in woodworking. Why DIY has zero woodworking shows on anymore, I have no idea. It'd be tough to say anyone has picked up where WoodWorks left off, but you're doing an excellent job. I have really enjoyed all the Wood Whisperer videos I've seen so far.

Totally expected a pattern bowl bit in a router for the template border.

Great video man but all I can think of when I see that peak in the middle is Ouch!

Marc, Good review I want one of em'. If you had the wife seat herself on the 8/4 blank and do the initial trace around her you would have a more graceful contour don;t you think? I used a similar tool that cut like a rotary chain saw. Used it on built up MDF to shape out a hobby horse mold. I never saw sooo much material in the air. Mold was a success, but I still fight the shop blanket of dust in all nooks and crannies!

The soundtrack age perfectly. So grateful to be able to experience all this years of your lessons. Thank Marc

No, but they do have a smaller carving tool called the mini grinder. Never used it myself, but it's still quite a bit larger than a Dremel.

That centerline ridge looks like it might hurt, especially if you're male. You might also try turning off the shop lights and using a strong directional light source to get a better look at your carving. . .

Man, I wish I had Zebra wood around to sculpt up, that stuff is beautiful looking!

Ahh, yeah. That makes sense as well. Anyway. Thank you very much for everything you do, but watch out for my wife, she is on the attack since I started buying the things I needed for my shop again! If you happen to have an extra 14in PowerMatic band saw, just send it on over!! :)

Cool, never know about angle grinder in woodworking before

sorry if you've answered this already, Do you need any adapters or anything to fit the arbor tech blades to a regular 4 1/2 inch grinder?? I've done a little web searching, hard to find a straight answer. Ive actually been looking at the mini industrial cutter, planer ones a bit pricey. But, after seein this, it may be worth it. Please and thank you.

Hi Mark. This is the first time that I've commented on one of your videos. I came across your videos for the first time last summer, and now I spend spend my lunch breaks in your shop. The Turboplane is a pretty cool tool, but it also looks a little scary. In using it, could it to lurch out of your hands if it encounters funky grain or a knot?

I don't understand. Why can't you hear me?

how much does each disc cost?

Was wondering, Does ArborTech make a Dremel Tool size blade for doing small precise carving.?

How long should the Arbortech Turboplane stay sharp?

Would of like to seen the tool used!!!

Is that blade really $170 bucks or did I find the wrong one....:-/

You'll be much faster with a few gauges. Don't be afraid of handtools

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This is not mistaken as doing nothing

lol... "learning curve" punny!

Why didn't you take off the wheel guard the power plane is supposed to be able to cut on the flat

$150

Cool tool but WAY WAY over priced..

glasses are needed under a face mask

Not sure if you are really asking or just pointing out the obvious. We like to have only two sponsors at any one time and as you can see, ClearVue Cyclones is now a sponsor in addition to Powermatic. So nothing happened to Rockler. We still have a great relationship with them and you might see them as a sponsor again in the future.

Hope you take out that sharp hump in the center. Otherwise it'll be known as the vasectomy chair.

hi Marc, I bought the Arbortech Turbo Plane, but I have heard that there are clearance issues with the Dewalt DWE402 grinder guard and the Turbo Plane, even with the supplied spacers from Arbortech. Can you shed some light on this. I didn’t want to buy the wrong grinder and return it. which dewalt model are you using? thx in advance.

I know you already have a full face shield. But with the cumbersome nature of that and a respirator have you considered buying something like the 3M 6900 Full Face respirator? They are acceptable for this type of work, both for eye / face protection and respiratory as well. Considering your face shield is about $30-45 depending on where you buy it and the 3M 6900 is about $92 on Amazon it's not that much more. At least when you consider the cost of an added respirator all together, the hassle of trying to put both on at once, and this thing would offer full protection even against material that might bounce in from your chest, which I have had happen. Just a thought, not trying to sell for myself or anyone and personally would recommend something cheaper if I thought it was actually safe, but this is a safe affordable option to have. It is also one of the cheapest on the market that I've seen.

I suppose anything is possible so yes, it could in theory. But having a good grip on the handle at all times is a really good idea. During normal use, assuming you aren't being erratic or too aggressive, there really is no reason the tool will fly out of your hands.

Hi. I have a question. Does the blade is placed in the hollow place of the disk (removable and replaceable) or is integrated in the disk (part of the disk)? How long a disk can last and if you have to file it once in a while?

Well, I wouldn't go too small as you really should be using this thing on larger pieces. But for me, I'd rather practice and make something useful. But I also have some experience with tools like this one. For an absolute novice, I'd recommend grabbing a 2x4 and going at it. I should mention though that this chair seat is not a real chair seat. Just made it for demo purposes. It's definitely too narrow to be useful. :)

Oh and as a man with a lot of experience using a grinder, if you want more control with the tool to make cleaner cuts get a longer grinder and always use the side grip like you did. The longer grinder will allow you to keep your elbows closer into your body. The elbow close to the body means less bounce and movement in the arm. The more the arm moves at the elbow as you grind the more the grinder moves at the point of contact. If you minimize the elbow you minimize the amount of dig out you get from the blades. I'd also suggest one that has the air vents in a different location. The one you have there can be a tendency to place your hand over the vent holes which will cause the motor to heat up and can either burn your hand slowly as you use the tool, or burn out your motor prematurely.

It wasn't a job. I worked with him in an "apprentice-like" fashion for a couple months over the course of a few trips. I first met him when I took a private class back in 2004 and simply asked him if I could come back for an extended stay. Back then, he really hadn't publicized his classes yet and needed some extra help in the shop so the timing was good.

I am going to be pretty strategic about what I make for the boy. Not to mention my wife isn't patient enough to wait for me to fit certain projects into the schedule. So I probably won't make any baby furniture for him since they tend to outgrow the stuff so quickly. I'll most likely make him stuff he can actually appreciate, like toys. :)

Sweet. I would love to mess around with one of those. Thanks for the video.

Yeah that would be a good way to go. Charles Brock has a great technique that involves cutting some of the profiles ahead of time in the pieces that make up the chair seat prior to gluing them together. That way you have some of your depth already established as well as the curves.

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I think butt joints would be more than adequate for a chair. I might use some Domino's to help the alignment during glueup and they would certainly add some strength.

I said alder because it's alder. :)

I've been using the old blade for years and haven't had to worry about sharpening. So I'm hoping this new one will have similar durability.

Well, there are many starting lines. Just depends on your goals, tastes, and budget. So you're doing the right thing by watching videos. Keep your eye on what other people are building and what they use to do it. Soon, you'll know exactly what you need to get the job done.

This was just a sample design and the seat would normally be about 6" wider. This is why it looks off. And yeah, dust just goes everywhere with these things!

Hard to quantitate. Depends on how much you use it. It's like a giant router bit, really. So it should stay sharp for a very long time.

Quite a useful video, thanks. I noticed that you used a butt joint for the seat.... (no seriously) Is that something that you'd use for a 'production' chair, my butt is pretty heavy and I can imagine the strain on the glue in that joint. Maybe two or three LARGE dovetails would look artistic after you'd machined them down. (lost 23 kilos so far, but have broken chairs in the past)

Hey Mark I know you have a baby and since you were making a seat. Would you ever make a high chair I know you made a Rocking horse already. This is just a question, I'm not asking for you to make a series or anything just wondering.

I saw a video where they drilled depth holes as guides in each area. If you were doing a serious project is that something you would do? I figure with sketchup you can figure out exact depths in different peaks/valleys pretty quickly.

You can get sanding disks and wheels for grinders, do could have used one of them to sand it down.

I'm pretty good at making mistakes and I'm too lazy to edit them out. :)

I hope not, otherwise my new shop went back in time!

Keep in mind this is a rough carving. To make the final chair, there would still be a lot more work to do.

A great way to get the depth correct is to predrill holes to indicate proper depth.

For now I can't afford the turboplane, but 60 grit sanding discs do the job just as well, but slower

What better piece of wood to destroy practicing your first time out than a slab of walnut burl?

Hi, I am a big fan! Why is this video familiar to me? Is it a old but recycle one?

It's a fantastic idea! That's why we do it. :)

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"We have ways of making you talk. You tell us what we want to know ......or you get The Chair!" I bet Mel Brooks would have a field day with that thing! Anyway, Thanks as always Marc. I just picked up the Arbotech Ball Gouge and King Arthur Profile Discs to do some sculpture projects which normally can take weeks of hand chisel work to rough out. I expect to make a ton of mistakes but every journey begins with a first step right? Thanks again Marc. Great work.

My first bar rail was done using a large angle grinder, scrap sanding disks and old 4"x4"s. Great to get the "hand hewn"look and noisy enough to keep the good idea fairies away. Tjanks for the post 'whisperer.

re mistakes, best saying i ever hear was from a very wise old man when i was younger than today, and he was probably close to my age now. He asked me a question, "What is the difference between a master and a beginner?" I had no idea, skill, ? a mystical insight? "No difference," he told me, " except one. The master has made more mistakes than the beginner. The only difference between the two."

Marc, great vid, I really appreciate that you included your mistake because our mistakes are what we learn from the best. This Arbortech demo is from 4 years ago, so I imagine you've spent some serious time with it by now. Have you been able to do the same with the Kutzall disks or the Lancelot product line? I ask because I have a bench project for my wife that will be hewn from a 12" x 12" old growth redwood timber, and as you understand, redwood is very soft. That means I need to be choosey about the tool I use to sculpt it. Along the same line, these disks are obviously roughing tools, so how do you finish off your seats/sculpting after the Arbortech? I assume a French curve card scraper would be pretty good for handling those contours. TIA, Bradley

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Nice video. You have to wear safety glasses with that face guard, per the manufacturer. The Turboplane is a very handy accessory, and you are right, there is a learning curve, but it is not too long. I greatly prefer it to a chainsaw blade disc.

Great , best way to learn through mistakes and have the heads up on techniques . cool i like that you are really easy to watch & understand . THANKYOU

I like how honest Mark is, that is a great asset.

Hi Mark, i see you using a visor, mask and ear defenders in the video, have you considered a power air fed visor? 3M do a very nice unit called versaflow. It's not cheap but it combines all you PPE in 1, it's very very light and comfortable

The walnut burl did not look destroyed at all in my eye...in fact it looked like a beautiful Table tray or dish for small objects. should be displayed on a nice large table top.

I have also seen people drill holes of known depths in different areas of the seat they are carving out as a guide for how far to carve into that section of the seat.

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Ive been using the Holey Galahad from King Arther Tools for years and found it to make a lot of dust and leave a courser finish, I think I will give it a try. Thanks

not many of use that have the luxury of what to me is a huge slab of wood. The other thing and forgive me if I am in error here, it seems to me that there was no kind of matching on this joined two bits to one. It would have been nice to book-match them. Take care, and do not get angry with me, I say Take care to everyone as a closing bye bye kind of thing, it is not meant as a criticism, and I look forward and BTW I am in the UK, to watching your different methods to remove a little or a lot.

Great video! I just learn about this blade today. Do you have any idea on where to get some nice raw wood?

A cheaper. alternative product would be the Kutzall sanding/carving disc (about $60). I used one to make a sculpted rocking chair and it worked well, although very messy. Also, drilling holes at the desired depth and at different sections of the seat is a great reference point to use in the rough carving.

Good demo, but I'll stick to the scorp and travisher ... clean and quite and faster than most think.

What happened to Rockler?! haha

Maybe they don't have speakers :|

I've never seen a product like this. I do know King Arthur tools as carving implements. They are based on chainsaw teeth mounted on wheels, which I came to know from hand carving magazines and as a chainsaw carver.

Great explanation. I really have been interested in carving for some time. This really put some perspective into it all. Essentially, want to do it now. :D Or try at least. Sad part its not a cheap investment to get started apparently :D .

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I love your videos and I want to learn to do my own projects but I have no power tools. If you were in my position where would you start? What would be your first purchase? I am dying to start but I don't even know where the starting line is. HELP!!

I have to say I am so envious of your shop and all the tool there in! In the UK the space would just not be there to do this, but with a little thought on building new homes perhaps they will get that extra 'room' as in space and room to be able to do something like this in what is really wasted space for most homes in the UK.

It's cool to see you working with carving tools. There is a guy on you tune that make some cool chairs using a similar technique, Canadian Woodworks. Look them up. On a side note you do some wonderful work Mark. Thanks for your inspiration. My first real project was a shelf inspired by your weekend wall shelf. Thank you.

Thanks for the upload, of a great video. You have a knack to engage your audience well done. I hear what you are saying about learning as you go, but to be a little picky here, would it not be useful to start on a small block of wood rather than an actual article which be in use, and test out how fast it cuts and what those cuts do against the grain etc. There is

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Nice video! I'd like to know how steep the flanks of the hole are when you just lower the turboplane into the material

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my turboplane came with a small diamond sharpening stick thingy, i havnt needed to sharpen it yet, but they are re-sharpenable.

Bravo! I'm a new YT subscriber and I greatly appreciate you not just showing a mistake, but elaborating on why/how you made that mistake. I'm so tired of "made for TV" projects that go astoundingly quickly and flawlessly, which NEVER happens in real life. All those videos do is misrepresent the talent and effort required to perform these various tasks.

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GREAT vid-wish I'd seen it before I went hoggin w my KAT Galahad (which I love). Would love to see more vids on this technique. I think it might be worth annotating the vid, that some woods are extremely dangerous to cut (shred in this case) because the dust is toxic. Also, I wonder what difference a nice angle grinder makes compared to my cheapy black n decker? easier to control? Thanks again for the inspiration!

That's great Marc. I was looking into getting one of these a few months ago. Did you get much wear on the blade from use or do you feel it will last a long time?