The 645 was an incredible engine series here in the states and I'm finding out the world. Unbelievable really how many countries used this engine series from EMD in locos and I've never seen anyone from those countries write anything bad about them. Everyone loves them. They pulled their guts out for you. I worked on many freight trains here in the states that used them and I used to have to go back on running trains and restart them. That was fun. Wouldn't trade those experiences for the world. They were getting long in the tooth when I worked on them during the 70's and 80's but they were still very loud and very smokey.
General motors could build some damn reliable simple diesels just look at the old emd and detroit 2 strokes. Loud dirty and their exhaust smell like raw diesel and kerosene not like the new garbage and the def diesel fumes smell like chlorine from a pool it's sad to see what gm went from to where they are now everything is garbage and cheap the last good engine they built was the 6.0 vortec when they killed that all of their reliable work horses where gone their ecotec3 will never touch the vortec maney more powerful but sound cheap and have more things to fail but back in the 50s 60s and 70s no other industrial diesel company could touch GM in my opinion the old 2 strokes are so simple it's stupid and reliable as your favorite hammer
I'm gonna say that when every other locomotive quits working in Croatian winter the good ol' EMD locomotives keep on going, you can't stop the damn 2-stroke beast!
We still use them in our main fleet in NZ here, we had 3 different classes of them running for a while, one of them was retired a couple of years ago, just too old and didn't really serve any purpose (they started out as an EMD G8 with an 8-567 then rebuilt into a G18 with an 8-645, they were built to take the lighter laid tracks of some areas, but those have since been uprated 30 years ago so they were pretty much made redundant), one class is slowly being phased out (G12 class with a 12-567 rebuilt into a G22 with an aspirated 12-645C, they're largely identical to the G18 aside from the smaller prime mover) while the last will likely continue to be used for quite a while alongside our GE U26Cs and Chinesium specials (EMD GT22 with a turbocharged 12-645E3C, these are longer, heavier units with C axles as opposed to A1A-A1A on the other two clases).
When dealing with real trains no one should be playing. Nothing wrong with enjoying working on a railroad, I certainly did, Im a retired Union Pacific engineer. Even volunteers that operate and maintain vintage railroad should take that position very seriously. The equipment does not know if you are a paid employee or a volunteer. It will maim or kill a volunteer just as quick as it would an employee. If you are going to play with trains they should be garden scale or smaller.
Random 3800 Class Photography My comment was not meant for any one in particular. I would think that the poster of this video feels the same way I do. I’m a retired road engineer off of the Union Pacific and involved with an organization that operates and maintains a Mikado Stem Locomotive and a couple vintage diesel locomotives and other equipment. I try to discourage using the term play or playing when referring to operating real railroad equipment.
Late at night between 10pm and 1am a train bearing the older Supercharged EMD V16 (perhaps multiple) powers through my hometown at full song every night. Thought the end of the world was coming the first few times I heard it. Awesome sound.
I don't know for sure, but it might have something to do with the U.S. enacting pollution standards for its diesel locomotives in 1997 and 2008, whereas Australia doesn't appear to have any at all for its diesel locomotives.
there are plenty go GP7's and GP9 still running that replaced the F units in the catalog. The real problem with the 567 units is not enough power for mainline service and their not good for switching service.
I mean most of our trains here in the US are easily in their 40/50s we just keep updating them to Modern standards and as someone said if EMD and CAT keep making replacement parts then we will still use them
A little FYI. That 645 in EMD V16 - 645E indicates 645 cubic inch displacement per cylinder or 10.57 liter displacement per cylinder. Total displacement of the V16 engine is 10,320 cubic inches or 169.11 liters.
Dale like everyone who has something they don't care for it is this particular engine that creeps me out. We live across the street from a train track near a repair station,These have a low pitch hum that to me is creepy,I also don't like the looks,And I led a pretty normal life.
fans of today(in the USA), missed out. Back in the 1970s we had it all,,, FM, a few Baldwins, GE U-Boats, and the EMD F7. Seeing and hearing a brace of 4-F7As was a sight to see and hear,,,,with the Leslie A200 horn. nothing today even comes close.
Another great video, and the older EMD's sure do give an awesome sound. We really are quite lucky that we have so many older locos still around, well for the time being.
EMD❤...truly remarkable engineering. Worked on marine versions lots. A sound one can never get enough of... Especially with transport legs in offshore campaigns.... days of steaming with continuous EMD's working in heavy seas...
THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST YOU TUBE UPLOADS. I LOVE THESE OLD TRAINS. THEY SOUND REALLY TUFF. EXTREME BRUTE POWER. NOTHING IS TOUGHER THAN THESE ENGINES. THESE TRAINS SHOULD BE MAINTAINED TO LAST FOREVER. SUPER TUFF!
Other than being two-stroke and unit-injected, the EMD prime mover has no relationship to the Detroit Diesel design. The EMD 567's closest ancestor was the Winton 201A marine engine. However, the 567 shares almost no design features with the 201A-the 567 was a "clean sheet" design.
I have to admit that I prefer the sound of a Mack EM9 and to some degree the old DD 8V71, But then I grew up working on and driving old Superliners. But This is an AWESOME bit of kit and I do love so see trains in action.
Great job, I loved starting those covered wagons, nothing sounds better! I worked in the diesel shop before I went I to train service as a baby brakeman and because of that the hogheads I worked with would send me back into the consist to restart these old girls on the fly when needed. Nothing like making your way back to a dead engine at 70 mph down greasy gangways and through the nose door to get the job done. Wouldn't trade those experiences for anything.
This brought back childhood memories of standing trackside while my favorite railroad’s F3s idled between setouts and pickups, and then pulled a heavy freight out of town in run 8!
Oooh, direct current traction generator. Those have a beautiful commutator and brush rigging inside! Would love to hear some starting out from a standstill and that beautiful idle, notching up as you gain speed.
Love the film!! A little story to tell you. Back in early 1976 we at Korong Vale had our first X class come up here. Before then it was the occasional B class but alot of Yclass and Tclass locos.
aussie - i love your videos. i grew up feet from chicago northwestern railway in 1970s in suburbs in chicago. your vids remind me of being a tiny kid. thanks! i think the locos back then were emd , which look similar to the locos in your vids. cheers sir! the sound i can remember in my crib. :)
Thanks for sharing. I wish the video was at least one hour long. I will never forget the day I operated an F7 on the Portola RR museum. If there is a heaven, i hope God has a railroad. If so I want to be an engineer driving F7 locomotives for all eternity.
Fantastic Old Diesel sound! Great Work! ( This brings back childhood memories from the 1950s-60s. I used to watch when as a kid, the NYC, and New Haven RR, diesels race by. This used to scare the hell out of us). Thanks for sharing.
That sound brings back memories. A place I worked in suburban Boston had tracks right behind the building. The T commuter trains went by there at about 50 mph, the old f unit sounds the same. Thanks for posting.
As an apprentice on the National Railways of Zimbabwe I worked on the English Electric 16svt. My first experience was those decompresses spitting flame 🔥 on cold start . Then that hunting sound as the LCR was wiping. Great engine
I Remember Camping In The 70s And 80s On River Trips. The Trains Would Blow Their Horns As They Went By. We Use To Put Pennies On Tracks.. BTW It Works. We Were Stupid Enough To Stand Close To See Where Penny Went. Also Climbed Under Stopped Trains. As A City Boy I Thought That Was Awesome. Plus The Cows. Oh The Memories. ☺. Sucks Growing Up And Knowing Better. Lol.
Great video. And yeah the EMD engines just sound terrific. I remember as a kid staying with my grandparents at Crystal Brook in SA and you could hear the GMs for miles and miles at night, working hard up the grade from Crystal Brook towards Gladstone.
You cant go wrong with that 567 music. One thing I'm hoping for is that SSR acquires some of the old ex-NSWGR 422s. Them suckers sound glorious in notch eight and litterally make a chattering noise. Maybe some day. Thanks for sharing, I never get tired of these!
GM27 is now powered by... a ... 645E... "confirmed" as is pointed out in the description. Agreed, the 422 class - powered by the 645 - were absolutely beautiful to drive. Not to cast aspersions on this body-type running the 567, as manufactured. We now live in this "brave new world" and we are blessed to see and hear these awesome units still blasting along, while being aware that constant upgrades keep them humming away. Regards from Tuckombil via Alstonville and East Ballina 800km north of Sydney... via Eveleigh Running/ACDEP, DELEC, Taree then Casino & Sth Grafton. 🤪🤙
Great. We (still) have these engines in Europe, too. I can remember the Belgian (class 55) and Luxembourg (class 18) ones making a terrific and very distinctive sound. There are a few vids here on youtube especially on the Belgian class 55. They had their EMD engines rated at 1950 hp btw. A few of the class 55 are still active with SNCB ...
Hi ATD, I wrote a comment some time ago in another of your videos where I requested you film and upload longer cab rides of say an hour or so. You responded that you thought my request was doable but so far it has not transpired. As an Australian, I would really value seeing more of our trains and scenery so I hope you can see your way clear to creating such a video or two in the near future. Thanks in advance.
Great video. A sight that would not have been common many years ago - when these locos were new. A Commonwealth Railways loco, leading a goods past a stabled Victorian Railways loco, in New South Wales. Each states railways was very much a closed system, until 'through running' came into being. The expanding network of the Gauge helped too.
What a beauty love those classics man, wish we had them still operating normal service here! One day you got to blow that beautiful horn like we do! Two long one short one long.!!!!
@@yestfmf well here in the USA we have their FRA (FRA being Fedral Railroad Administration) which tells all engineers at any level crossing minus quite zones to blow the horn in a certain sequence, two long one short one long. Until the train gets to the crossing. We been doing that since the 1800s!
@@LIMowersAndMore thanks. been wondering about that for years (just not curious enough to pursue it, apparently). now for another lifelong thing, to take a ride in the engine going cross country....
The GP7 and the F7 were mechanically identical, but the sound of that non-turbocharged 567 in the confines of a hood vs a cavernous carbody was just not the same. I'll never forget the soundshow of 5 F7's on ATSF 1412, or 1414 leaving N.Wichita for Newton in run 8. Some things just stick with ya for a lifetime.
Hahahaha for once I’m not the guy asking for highly specific footage of something I want to nerd out on 😃; I like to see this though hopefully you found what you were looking for bro
I remember them as a kid in Brisbane in the 70’s. I would think that they are a good aerodynamic shape for an locomotive. I think they are Beautiful. It wouldn’t be that hard to do a full rebuild of one to bring it up to the standards we have today.....as long as the frame isn’t damaged or rusty. Heavy work but it could be done on an assembly line much like tank upgrades/rebuilds.
Great shot inside the rocker cover.........its idling slow enough to see it in real time firing of the injector and open/close of valves. Union Pacific built a Loco that had 2 of those V16 engines on a single chassis/body. Individual,camshaft operated injectors were the most reliable,high performance system ever designed. Common rail has finesse for strict emission standards but it will never match this system for durability and needs very,very clean fuel (2 micron, dissolved moisture removed) to avoid major problems occurring at relatively low hours of operation.
Would love to get to see some videos of operating from the cab. I see usually only Dutch Railway videos for that and it would be nice to see Australian
A 2 stroke diesel has a blower simply because it won’t even run without one. In the early days of drag racing people like Don Garlits used modified Detroit Diesel blowers as superchargers but on a DDA engine they don’t force any extra air into the cylinders because all the valves are open at the same time. They simply push out the spent gas with the fresh air. One interesting trait that I used to find amusing was how long it took for the Detroit exhaust manifolds to warm up. At idle you could literally lay a hand on them a minute after startup and not get burned.
Correct man, alot if people don't understand it, in these they produce roughly 5-6psi of positive pressure under full power, so essentially naturally aspirated, but enough air to no doubt increase combustion levels with more air getting in, hence why they are generally more efficient at higher rpms, the turbo Emds are the same when it comes to efficiency, although as you may know the turbo is gear driven until exhaust gas takes over and a clutch is released.
