That is one cool truck! Love the v12. You just keep finding cooler and cooler trucks. It will make trimming trees a breeze at the ranch lol. Does the trailer disconnect? If so wonder if you could hookup marge. It would make for a nice hauler.
I did look at the connection for the trailer.....trust me, its not something that will disconnect easily. I' going to leave it alone. Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
What about Disney Land made you lose your voice?Hope you get better soon!!Tell Jamie I said hey!! PEACE OUT!!!from Johnny Reb from Kentucky!!I was about to say it is a 702cubic inch v12 about the time you said it!! God Bless you all!
Rick I hate to leave so many post but,and I know that you are pretty Sharp but some of the old firetrucks had HEMIS in them and of course they are worth some big dollars,just so you know!!might make you some extra money some time!!!PEACE Out!!!!
I am so OLD I remember when this type later truck was still in every day use. the thing will really go fast but the weak point is the drum brakes. At 85 mph they will fade out really bad try ing to stop. you wont go that fast so have fun.
Firemen have told me of what its like to go to a fire in a hurry on this kind of ladder truck. wild ride for the rear driver especially around corners. And yes, I was told they did get that thing up to 85 on rare occasions. The power is there. If its me I would go really carefully around sharp corners so the rear steering person can deal with the cranking the wheel. no wonder fire fighter is a dangerous job.
That's an awesome piece of history glad to see it going to a good home. Can't wait till the next video. I don't know were that's located in California but when you go to get it running if you need an extra hand I'm located in California and will travel to help I'm very mechanically inclined its what I do for a living so if you need a hand let me know thanks for the great videos keep them coming
Jackson Michigan had the late 50's early 60's Seagrave safety cab and tillers. 12 cylinder growlers... I remember the sounds from the siren and pumps..The sound of the exhaust was epic.
I found your clutch pressure plates for the V-12 GMC, here's the link my friend ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-om0fY6me8A8.html "Peace Out"
The engine was the main reason I went after it in the first place. Then I learned it was originally from Portland and became even more interested. After seeing it in person, I fell in love with it. A very unique machine. Thanks Fer watchin'. -Rick
awesome truck rick...i saw jeff bradshaw there! i always wanted one of those trucks! come to think of it...there are not too many old trucks i dont want!
That is such a cool truck ! English , but living in France for 18 years, I drove semi's in left and right hand drive. Some had auto rear wheel steer on the back 2 axles of the trailer, not sure I would be too keen on having some other dude steering the back ! Sound s a bit keystone cops :) 99% of Euro trucks are cabovers of course, we rarely get the engine out front.
Believe it or not, 99% of Oregon still has intelligent life. They don't send the news crews out into the REAL population here. Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
that is one awesome fire truck I had a model of this truck when I was a kid it went every where with me lost it when I left home after seeing this I iam going to see if it is still at home , you have a great family rick , great video of what you do best god bless you buddy and you and Jamie are so awesome together awesome god bless you all
i will let you now ,i am seeing my sister this weekend she keeps everything from our childhood so i am confident ,again love all your video's awesome god bless you both and to Annabella and Jet peace out
So what is the actual model of that GMC 12 cylinder engine is it gas or diesel the Grey Marine division original name now Detroit Diesel Division made 12 v's in 53 series 71 series 92 and 145 based on the the cdi per cylinder. The largest were the 16 and 24 cylinders engines. Crew boats in the oil industry largely had Detroit 12/71 series in them Captained 6 of them back in the 1990's. the biggest 72 feet had air starters twin turbos and inner cooling 650 hp each. The series of these engines date back to 1932 per my manuals my manuals were printed in 1990. Oh great truck too. Worked on a Japanese Kamatsu pay-loader factory equipped with a Detroit Diesel 12v71 with blowers 450 hp. That thing was huge had a 9 yard bucket. All 2 cycle engines. The larges engines were the EMD series developed for locomotives but were used mainlt in oil field supply boats and anchor pulling tugs. GMC Allison Automatic transmission division also made marine transmission for boats.
You obviously know what you are talking about. Thank you for sharing all this information. The GMC V12 is gas powered. I don't claim to be an expert on them. I saw one 7-years ago and have been searching for one ever since. They only made 5000 of the according to everything I've read. I actually thought my odds of finding one were pretty slim. When you can find one for sale, the asking price is normally beyond what I could hope to afford. When I decided to look into this Fire Truck, I had no idea it had one under the hood. God is awesome...He gives us the desires of our heart. There are websites that contain info on these engines. Here is some info from one of those sights, Thank you for your input and Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick The stock 702 ci V12 was delivered from GMC as a robust powerplant. GMC's own sales literature claimed that its use in a semi-truck would provide continuous trouble free use for 200,000 miles. In 1960 that was quite a claim for any gas engine, much less one that runs 90% of the time at full power. It would be anyone's guess how long these engines can last in a lightly loaded hotrod. The 702 ci engines that ran in stationary power applications far exceeded that level of expected durability. These engines were run on propane or natural gas and were routinely run (with rebuilds) over 100,000 hours and one user has documented closer to 200,000 hours. To convert that into miles would mean somewhere between 5 and 10 million miles. These engines are robust. Some features that define its ruggedness are: * The cam lobes spin in an oil bath.* 56 head bolts.* 180# forged steel short throw crankshaft.* Oversize bore spacing to allow water around cylinder.* Three thermostats to aid cooling flow.* Seven main journals.* Four bolt mains at center and output journals.* Heads designed for ample cooling around exhaust.* Top piston ring away from top of piston for ring cooling.* Top ring in steel expansion control band.* 1.24" wrist pin.* Stiff and stable rocker shaft design.* Hydraulic valve lifters to reduce adjusting requirements.* Short pushrod design.* Head bolts placed well away from edge of cylinders to prevent bore deflection when torquing bolts.
We were just kidding about someone driving it. Thank you though. It has to go through some mountain passes on the way home, so it will be best to have it hauled on a flatbed. -Rick
John, the block is a one-piece unit and actually very different from the V6 blocks. It also has a one-piece crankshaft and camshaft. It does share the V6 Head, intake and valve-covers though. they only made 5000 of the 702 cubic inch V12 engines in the early 60's.
Hi CTR. Just thought I'd tell you that over on Curiousity Incorporated/channel they found a very rare Fargo 80 pick-up truck from 1960? languishing in a yard. I am not sure of all details but I understand they are RARE (only 2/now3) Known to exist. Very cool with tail-fins-and doesn't LOOK too bad. (Thought you'd like to see it.)
I have been watching your videos for a while, and this is first time I decided to comment. I am a dedicated family man, and very glad to see you are very family oriented. I am a car guy and love classics. I have a 64 c10 I am working on and my favorites are 67 to 72 chevys and gmc's. Keep thinking I should come check out what you got going on. I even like the old wagon you brough back. Anyway keep up the great work, and I would like to talk to you sometime about parts etc.
Wow, those GMC Toro-Flows aren't exactly rare, but they darn sure don't turn up very often. Nice Find! AND in an articulated fire truck! Oh, Man! In the context of a forum that I frequent, I have to give you a hearty "You Suck" for that find. (It's an awesome "thing", you found it, I didn't , I wish I had, but I'm really glad you got it. )
Back in the 60's our local volunteer fire department in Pikesville, Maryland had a 1955 Seagrave pumper with the (original) V-12 engine. It did not need a siren because it ran 5" straight open pipe out the sides and was unbelievably LOUD,... so loud the pavement shook when that sucker passed by on a call! lol! It met it's demise when they accidentally took it on a call with no oil in the motor. As the story goes, they were in the middle of an oil change, the alarm came in, and the squad failed to notice the sign saying they were waiting for an oil filter to arrive. They sent it out and had a brand new Detroit 6-71 installed with a big Allison behind it,... (straight pipes were retained!!!)
Rick have you put the word out to see if anybody from the Portland Fire Dpt is still around that "worked" this truck, most likely retire. If you could find someone think of the history you could video to go along with this "gem". You guys rock, remember Keep On Keeping On
Man they don't make em with that good steel anymore. The chrome on the lights still shines. It looks in great shape considering it's age.lucky find. Love yalls videos 👩🚒🚒🚒👍👍👍👍
Wait ! Is that a 702 v-12 GMC Thunder ? There was only around 500 of those made. That engine is desirable with the hot-rod guys. Geez, I'll bet it's worth 30-k.
Super cool truck, I thought those v12 were just homemade frankinstien motors, I know their two 351E motors put together but how is it done how dose the timing work , do the blocks run individual distributors or one and then dose it fire two powerstrokes at once or in a sequence 1-12 like a regular multi cylinder motor? sure is a neat machine
It does use some of the V6 components, but trust me, this engine is not something that was cobbled together. One-piece block and crankshaft and a whole lot of other V12-specific items. They only made 5000 of them and who knows how many are left that run? Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
I wouldn't be surprised if that roof was installed as a "riot" roof. Many fire trucks in the 60s had roofs put on them from all the civil unrest...which then led to trucks getting them from the factory
And break stuff that isn't easy to fix too,like those gauges. THAT oughtta be a FELONY! BTW-a friend had a restored '56 Chrysler 300D in storage;the unit was broken into,and the thieves stole a bunch of stuff,ruined the glass and interior. The owner was DEVASTATED. She was able to find and re-acquire almost ALL the missing parts,plus she recognized some parts as being hers,so her investigators caught the thieves via their selling stolen parts on the internet,and they had to pay the owner full restitution for the damage,labor included. PLUS,their little theft ring amounted to enough business to get them DEEP into Felony territory,which meant LOOOOOOONNG Prison terms. Justice WAS done. The 300D looks as nice now as before the damage. And she has MUCH better Security now.
I can't really get too upset about that stuff. My wings have some dirt on them. Frustrating, yes, but just something that comes as part of the job. I will find the things it needs. Thank you and Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
I had seen pictures on the internet of this old Seagrave rotting away there, so glad you found it and "rescued" it. I just hate to see those old apparatus put somewhere and just forgot about, can't wait to see u get her runnin!!
We'll get it home my Friend. Sometimes we have to sacrifice just to be able to buy something like this....knowing we will never make a dime of the money we spend back....and will have to come up with more just to get it home and then get it running....but this is what makes all the other stuff we do worth it...if that makes sense...Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
Wow is all I can say that is one big fire truck right there but very cool you can use it to cut and trim trees around the Ranch lol can't wait to see you get this one running with that big V12 wow!
well let a old trucker help out since do not have a semi to use you will need to pick ups and 2 trailer if it can not drive it self home, back trailer on to haul trailer flag it on the over hang and fire truck to other haul trailer, i hope it helps as from this old disabled driver ,rick is old school mans up even sick,well done the both of you
Pretty cool truck ricky can't wait to see her run I love old iron that is for sure hope you get to feeling better and get your voice back I hate having a hoarse voice it really sucks talk to you later take care hot rod
Not happening....This truck is a rare piece of history. There are plenty of old trucks out there to chop up and modify...this one needs to be returned to its former glory. I sacrificed way to much time, money and work to bring it home (In One Piece). I could've chopped it up when it was in California and hauled "The goodies" home a LOT cheaper. Its a Fire Truck...always going to be a Fire Truck...and will never be a Tow Truck.....I have Tow Trucks....Sacrilege...Thanks Fer Watchin' Though. -Rick.
Rick, & Jamie I haven't a clue how far away the CTR is from where Ol Slinky is in northern California waiting for you to come pick him up, it does not look that far on a US map, though I also know you could fit the whole of the UK inside many of your states, so maybe it’s quite a distance So I was thinking, do you think Brutus Bumpside would be up to the task to bring Ol Slinky back to the CTR or would you need something bigger. Heh! Heh! I was just thinking if old Homer (Brutus Bumpside’s little brother) was in better health, he would be knocking on your trailer home door by now, saying come on papa/mamma let’s go get him, boy that truck sure has some big balls, and if he was in good health that’s exactly what he would do one way or another. Regards UK Barry & Flo
Funny you should mention it. I just told Jamie last night that I am going to invest some money into Brutus Bumpside to get him running and driving perfectly. My reasoning is that it will cost a lot of money to have Slinky hauled the 400+ miles back to the Ranch. Better to invest that money into Brutus and have a heavy hauler in the CTR arsenal that is road-ready and capable of handling these chores. Besides....a classic Wrecker hauling Classic Trucks over mountain passes is going to make for some awesome videos. Thanks Fer Watchin' Once Again Barry. -Rick
Couldn't agree with you more Rick, if you take Steve along as well would it be Jamie or Steve who drive’s Brutus Bumpside back, as I know from the video, she is dying to drive Ol Slinky, and you will get to be the one with the rear steering job of Ol Slinky, that would be a sight for sore eyes, or would it be illegal like in the UK. Mind you, you might make Homer a little jealous of Brutus Bumpside, be careful how you explain it to him Ha Ha. UK Barry & Flo
That IS a GMC V-12, Portland must have blown up the original V-12 that came in the rig. Tillering is where the fun is. However, you have to pay attention back there, there's no screwing around because before you know it you could be upside down in a bean field.
Any idea of who built the top? A buddy of mine in Portland, now deceased, did a lot of custom fiberglass work on heavy trucks. The first Freightliners with raised roofs used his roof cap. The roof looks like something he would have done.
We will do everything we can to research this truck. We feel like it is very important that this Old Guy comes home and gets a full restoration out of respect for all the service he put in saving lives. I do already have a partial logbook showing that this truck was still serving Portland in the mid-eighties. Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
I would not be a bit surprised if the fiberglass top wasn't a factory supplied part. Most apparatus manufacturers that produced open cab rigs had removable tops for both protection against the elements and protection against the "bad" elements (i.e. rioters throwing things) if you get what I mean. American LaFrance had a fiberglass top available for every model from the 700 series on to the end or open cab production.
What a very nice family you got there rick.Cherish every moment with your mom when you can.I miss mine she's been gone since 2013.I sure hope your feeling better.I really would like to see that big ole truck running n how your gonna load it to bring her home.
Sorry about your Mom. Yes, I do cherish the time I have been blessed to spend with mine. We will be using Brutus-Bumpside to get this job done. Thank you and Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
I have no idea how I missed this, but I can only imagine what that v12 would cost to run... Neat that its from Portland and you're taking it back... Any chance that v12 is 2 common v6s put together? I ask because it looks like it.
Kevin...the GMC V12 does use some parts from the V6, but it is not just two v6 engines put together. The engine block is a single casting V12 Block. The camshaft and crankshaft are also one-piece units. The GMC V12 is 702 Cubic inches. Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
a tiller is a weird thing, I think you have to steer opposite of what the direction is, really kinda convoluted but really cool once you get the hang of it! and JEFF! YAY GO JEFF!
There's a bunch of videos on RU-vid of these trucks responding. You're right, the start of the turn you turn opposite of what you'd think But a pair of good drivers can get one of those into where a straight ladder truck would either never go or be next to impossible to get in (or out), There's a video from Winter Park Fla FD where they come out of the station, make a 180 degree turn in the driveway, and go back into the bay they came out of! Best of luck to you on this, if I didn't live on the other side of the country (NY state) I'd come help!
He's already been named "Slinky" Allan. I named him quick before Jamie could beat me too it and I think Slinky is appropriate. I'll get a drone and take some arial video while Jeff and I play with him out in the pasture and it will make sense. Thanks Fer Watchin'. -Rick
