1961: NELSON in DUBLIN - Should he STAY or GO? | Tonight | Voice of the People | BBC Archive

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"O Connell, Parnell, Smith O'Brien, Nelson... Nelson? How did he get up there?"
Alan Whicker reports from Dublin, about Dubliners' ambivalent feelings towards one of the city's most famous - and incongruous - landmarks, Nelson's Pillar. What do people think should be done about this monument to a British hero, towering over the main thoroughfare of the capital of the Republic of Ireland?
He speaks with Noel Lemass - Fianna Fáil TD for Dublin South-West, Aldermann Frank Sherwin - Independent TD for Dublin North-Central, and Dublin City Councillor Joe Dowling, about the contentious statue.
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@captain007x 5 месяцев назад

I remember the joke at the time. What's the difference between Napolean and Nelson? Napoleon was Bonaparte and Nelson was blown apart.

@k-pax532 5 месяцев назад

😄🤣😂

@Paul5520 5 месяцев назад

Hehehe

@patkennedy2620 5 месяцев назад

Excellent 👍

@georgebailey98 5 месяцев назад

Nelson's Pillar was mostly destroyed by an explosion in 1966 and the rest had to be demolished by the Irish Army.

@orionxtc1119 5 месяцев назад

now the Needle Spire is there

@eddiestaunton514 5 месяцев назад

Bullshit it fell over in the Great Storm of 66 ;-)

@muffinman9462 5 месяцев назад

i was born that day

@ciannolan9714 5 месяцев назад

I believe the official position is that it simply fell over

@seanslater4663 5 месяцев назад

"Demolished by the Irish Army" as well as half of O Connell St.😂

@Jahson70 5 месяцев назад

This documentary probably did more to Nelson's Pillar's demise than anything else.

@paulkenneally789 5 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂

@QuizWriterMark 5 месяцев назад

He did! First Irish astronaut

@patrickmcg123 5 месяцев назад

Fun fact: His head is on display in Pearce Street Library,Dublin to this day!

@jmo8934 5 месяцев назад

Just like jebadiah Springfield. Nelson had to go but they should have left the pillar and put an Irish figure on the top of it. The spire is ironically pointless. I don’t know what they were thinking.

@markruddle5136 5 месяцев назад

Whickers? 😅

@robertwoodroffe123 5 месяцев назад

@@jmo8934 they are Irish

@jmo8934 5 месяцев назад

@@robertwoodroffe123Who are?

@robertwoodroffe123 5 месяцев назад

The spire people

@joseparcenary4706 5 месяцев назад

7:11 Whicker then went on to predict the Berlin Wall would last for 1000 years.

@markoshea6833 4 месяца назад

the Carpathian Mountains are definitely a Dividing Line.

@thebigpicture-elpanorama 5 месяцев назад

It was blown up a few years later.

@ivanconnolly7332 5 месяцев назад

IT was blown up by the Army soon after, causing more damage than the IRA bomb.

@eamonmacdonnell2627 5 месяцев назад

Four years later 1966

@ivanconnolly7332 5 месяцев назад

I remember we had a chunk of the granite pillar on the mantel piece, when the army demolished the stump it caused more damage than the IRA bomb, Students from the College of art took Nelsons head to the sculpture department of the College , from there it found its way to a pub in England and back again to a Museum in Dublin.

@eamoc 5 месяцев назад

Have you any idea how big his head is. It must weigh a ton.

@user-wb4cl7wm7n 3 месяца назад

He came to Garden Suburb Junior School because he was a friend of one of our teachers and he spoke to us and then we very shyly asked him a few questions and I remember he was so kind.

@Paulco67 5 месяцев назад

Nelson was blown up in 1966 on the 50th Anniversary of the Easter Rising.

@thehotash1778 5 месяцев назад

My blessed mother and my uncle walked to the top of nelsons piller around 1964 when i was just a kid of 5 id say. il always remember it with a fondness even though it was oul nelson. Thanks for this clip of oul dublin

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

pillar

@ColinH1973 5 месяцев назад

Good to see Alan interviewing his Irish brother.

@georgecrothers5618 5 месяцев назад

Lol

@dave20thmay 5 месяцев назад

Love that reply " your're trying to get me into a half-nelson" Fun sense of humour.

@michaelcarlos8686 5 месяцев назад

Parts of the pillar are in Kilkenny used as garden furniture now😂

@OscarOSullivan 5 месяцев назад

They have enough of their own marble

@Firkinnel 5 месяцев назад

Down With This Sort Of Thing !

@digitaldobbie 5 месяцев назад

Are you a racist now father Ted 😉

@danorthsidemang3834 5 месяцев назад

@@algrant5293Go on will you not have a cup?

@cunninglinguist-hu1dz 5 месяцев назад

They say that you are a racist now father.....

@VickersV 5 месяцев назад

😂@@cunninglinguist-hu1dz

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

Up close. ..... big , far away...........small (really small).

@johnroche7541 5 месяцев назад

Remember over a quarter of Nelson's Jack Tars(sailors) at Trafalgar were Irish. The records are in Portsmouth. I always thought it was such a shame to destroy such a beautiful piece of architecture. The proper thing would be to simply just remove Nelson and replace him with St.Patrick or Brian Boru or some other Irish historical figure for example. It is part of Irish history. Look at the ugly piece of modern architecture that stands there now. Remember the Irish in terms of contributing to the establishment and expansion of the British Empire more than played their part. The Irish contributed soldiers, sailors, nurses, civil servants, labourers,government officials etc.

@freemenofengland2880 5 месяцев назад

Alan Wicker - What a Giant of Presenting. Use to love watching these even when I was a nipper.

@johnkennedy1242 5 месяцев назад

His head is upstairs in the Pearce Street library as is.The key used by Bang Bang.

@RichardDragon234 5 месяцев назад

Couldn't the statue of Nelson not have been replaced with, say, a statue of St. Patrick or something (instead of being blown up)? Seems a real waste; the pillar had a viewing platform that allowed people to look out over the city. Far nicer than the big metal spike that replaced it in my opinion.

@Jack-mm4cb 5 месяцев назад

No because the pillar was privately owned (not by the city) and the several attempts by members of the public, the local government and the state failed to alter the pillar because the owners had the right to keep it as it was. The only way it was ever going to go was by the IRA blowing it to kingdom come. There was no recourse for changing out the statue and moving Nelson into a museum. If the owners had agreed to do that for a big sum of money the statue would still exist in one piece today.

@YanSmale 5 месяцев назад

Another century and a half? He got that wrong!

@hughjass8430 5 месяцев назад

He wasn't expecting an explosion! I think if it had been left to politicians, /councillors or a vote it would probably still be there.

@YanSmale 5 месяцев назад

Whatever your opinion we have to make sure history good or bad isn't buried or hidden IMHO ofcourse

@elizabethtobin6894 5 месяцев назад

He sure did.

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

One in three RN at Trafalgar were Irish , according to surviving records.

@cgray8267 5 месяцев назад

1 in 4 were not apparently

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

But if even 4 out of 4 had been Irish, I'd still not want Nelson's mush looking down on us. To this day even in Belfast too, when an undesirable comes a cropper, we will say that ," He fell like Nelson".

@TurfShifter 5 месяцев назад

And would they have been there if Ireland had been free at the time? Unlikely.

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

@@TurfShifter No absolutely , I take no pleasure in that fact , just a fact which many in Britain might prefer to forget.

@raftonpounder6696 5 месяцев назад

@@jamesoneill2933 you mean many in Ireland choose to forget. The Irish were willing participants in the British forces and still are. Great soldiers.

@magpie6648 5 месяцев назад

There was an interview done with the guide for the column in 1966.. it was blown up a few months later😂😂😂

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

Pillar or column?

@nickelmouse451 5 месяцев назад

People engaging in the modern debate on statues could learn something from these men; eloquent and respectful, though firm in their beliefs and patriotism.

@TurfShifter 5 месяцев назад

What? You do know it was blown up by the IRA.....

@nickelmouse451 5 месяцев назад

@@TurfShifterI never said we could learn something from the IRA. I said we could learn something from the men in the video. Happy to think again if you can prove that any were involved.

@davidcarrol110 5 месяцев назад

All the men interviewed realised that even though Nelson's statue was not their preference, they acknowledged his contribution in a very attractive and polite manner.

@ivanconnolly7332 5 месяцев назад

British patriotism lacks currency in an occupied land.

@williamc6564 5 месяцев назад

You are right to say it especially regards to the element of respect for the fact that Ireland, much to the toxic cancerous hatred of many Irish people today, these men speaking in the video acknowledge respectfully the English men who were part of the entire United Kingdom which Ireland was part of long before the events of 1916 Historical facts appear on the menus of nasty bitter people who chose only the courses that please them. A very embarrassing hallmark of many self congratulating Irish people today.

@finbarrcorcoran9342 5 месяцев назад

Why didn't they replace the statue with Collins in a passionate embrace with Dev.Could have kept the column. .

@bryanmacinnes 5 месяцев назад

Or James Joyce.

@Jahson70 5 месяцев назад

Too big and ugly, it had to go no matter what.

@Runboyrun89 5 месяцев назад

@@Jahson70it was fantastic looking, what are you on about?

@Runboyrun89 5 месяцев назад

Well DeValera was President at the time so unlikely. In fact most of the post 1916 era lot got very little given that the Civil War had left the country so divided.

@user-fg8it6kp3e 5 месяцев назад

Sadly imagination is not strong in our Irish government

@damienconnor2370 5 месяцев назад

He went!

@ed7269 5 месяцев назад

The IRA removed him fairly rapidly 😂😂 How would people feel if a statue appeared in London of a famous Austrian Mr H 😮

@davidreed9671 5 месяцев назад

Ironically, worse have appeared on the fourth plinth in Trafalagar Square!

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

@@davidreed9671like what

@yellowbelly06 5 месяцев назад

We have a monument with a large scale bust of Karl Marx in Highgate Cemetery so a statue of the Fuhrer would only go to serve as an example of another person responsible for a system that propagates the wholesale murder and subjugation of millions, whether it be Marxism or fascism.

@Norvik_-ug3ge 5 месяцев назад

I was unaware Admiral Nelson was foreign, and an evil dictator. I was under the impression he was a heroic naval officer who defeated Napoleon's navy thereby saving Great Britain and Ireland from invasion and occupation by the French Empire. You win today's most idiotic Hitler comparison prize.

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

@@Norvik_-ug3ge Admiral Nelson - born Hamlet England. Dublin, the capital of Ireland. It’s not an idiotic comparison, you are just dense.

@CrazyBrosCael 5 месяцев назад

I wish we would’ve at least have built a new column dedicated to someone from Irish History.

@_Saracen_ 5 месяцев назад

I think if I was to be generous, there is one connection between Nelson and Ireland, the fact that half of the British Navy back then was crewed by Irishmen (whether by force or not), so in a way the statue could be seen as celebrating Ireland's contribution to Nelson's victories. I'm surprised nobody brought that up in the clip. I think I prefer not having another statue at all there now. There is a famous Irish Admiral who helped the Independence movement from Spain in South America though, can't remember if it was Argentina or Columbia? or maybe neither. Might have been more suitable than Nelson.

@fulhamfcfan 5 месяцев назад

As The Dubliners put it, "Nelson took a powder and he blew!"

@sbGOM 5 месяцев назад

It's funny how Dublin just looked like another British city in those days. It probably still does mind you. As was once stated by someone whose name escapes me now "we're probably more alike than anyone here (Ireland) would like to admit"

@robertdoyle687 5 месяцев назад

'Up went Nelson in the morning' 😂😎🇮🇪

@SergioMach7 5 месяцев назад

History was not kind to Alan Whicker in this segment. No matter how much the spin was to keep Nelson's Pillar, Irish people had wanted to see it removed even since before independence. And the pillar would only be destroyed 5 years later. So much for lasting another 150 years. But for all the stick the pillar gets now, it always had the viewing platform going for it. Many people have a problem with the Spire that replaced it. My problem is that it has no observation platform. It would have paid for itself many times over in the 21 years since it was built.

@maryrosed8475 5 месяцев назад

Alan did not foresee a terrorists around the corner ready to blow up poor old Nelson. I actually loved Nelson column as a child. It made O'Connell Street a capital.

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

@@maryrosed8475now say something intelligent for a change

@Norvik_-ug3ge 5 месяцев назад

The spin is all yours. Those who illegally destroyed it, and risked the lives of hundreds of Dubliners by doing so, were unrepresentative terrorist a*£eholes. In a free country, a supposed Republic, private property, which the Pillar was, is supposed to be sacrosanct. So it doesn't matter a damn what (you imagine) (some) people thought. It is none of their business. Also in a state that pretended to incorporate Protestants, and former unionists and Anglophiles of all persuasions, blowing up the Pillar and ensuring it was not rebuilt gave the lie to all that bs.

@ivanconnolly7332 5 месяцев назад

The statue was known as the "one armed adulterer" .

@martingrefen7792 5 месяцев назад

Queen Victoria's Monument was removed from out side the Bank of lreland in 1937 and shiped to Sydney she still stands today

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

Odd how the Aussies don't object to such things.

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

@freebeerfordworkers Didn't they have one already?

@khiggins8733 5 месяцев назад

She deported many an Irishman to Australia and it was only fitting Ireland did the same to her.

@johnkilcullen1051 5 месяцев назад

Wasn't that statue outside Leinster House?

@martingrefen7792 5 месяцев назад

@@johnkilcullen1051 Your right there

@danorthsidemang3834 5 месяцев назад

Shoulda moved it to Craggy Isle

@Dabhach1 5 месяцев назад

It's interesting, isn't it, the clear and forthright manner of speech people back then used. No self-consciousness about putting forth an opinion, no sticking a metaphorical finger up to see which way the wind is blowing, just say what you think with clarity and articulation and trust to other fellow to do likewise in return. And no self-censorship.

@georgecrothers5618 5 месяцев назад

Good observation.

@paulmooney5126 4 месяца назад

I remember seeing a wonderful picture of Robbie Keane's dad and his mate, both aged about 14, standing in front of the rubble!

@72mossy 5 месяцев назад

What an eyesore, the boys sorted it out 😂

@tonydalton459 5 месяцев назад

The pillar itself was grand.Should have just removed Nelson from the top.

@Runboyrun89 5 месяцев назад

The Pillar was lovely, a real icon for Dublin. Shame.

@Irishman727 5 месяцев назад

Nonsense. It was a lot better than the spire.

@irishmade8136 5 месяцев назад

@@Irishman727FACT. Pearse should be up there. What a pity.

@cathalohanlon8765 5 месяцев назад

pity the blew the whole thing. Should have kept the pillar and replaced the statue with Collins.

@TomFarrell-js8sl 2 месяца назад

I think that's what most people thought then and now. Architecturally, the pillar was very elegant. It just had the wrong person on top of it. And as for what has since replaced it.....don't get me started.

@bphelan6920 5 месяцев назад

I was 12 years old when I went up on my own. Out of a family of 8 I was the only one to have gone up

@stephenhickey1709 5 месяцев назад

Love Alan Wickers voice and sauve style.... Very retro 1960's...

@eoinj3929 5 месяцев назад

Did you know the Dublin column was actually taller than the one in London.. .😁👍

@eric934 5 месяцев назад

Not according to Wikipedia. 134 ft whereas the London one is 169 ft.

@markirish7599 5 месяцев назад

@@eric934Dublin may be on higher ground than London. Sea level wise

@eric934 5 месяцев назад

@@markirish7599 That doesn't mean it's taller though does it. Any more than a 5 ft man standing at the top of a 10 ft flight of stairs is taller than a 6 ft man standing at the bottom. You aren't really being serious though are you.

@markirish7599 5 месяцев назад

@@eric934 did I say it was

@eric934 5 месяцев назад

@@markirish7599 I'm glad my simple explanation made it easy for you to understand that the height of a structure doesn't include it's altitude above sea level 😂.

@raftonpounder6696 5 месяцев назад

How well spoken we all used to be.

@kingeatking 5 месяцев назад

Ya if you were in high society..........

@neilrmartin1984 5 месяцев назад

I suppose today he'd be wearing a grubby tracksuit

@raftonpounder6696 5 месяцев назад

@@kingeatking true.

@raftonpounder6696 5 месяцев назад

@@neilrmartin1984 😂

@memofromessex 5 месяцев назад

Init!

@fredo1070 5 месяцев назад

The IRA blew up Nelson's Pillar a few years after this documentary.

@B__W140 5 месяцев назад

Good

@knownpleasures 5 месяцев назад

They were obviously inspired by this video clip

@TomFarrell-js8sl 2 месяца назад

They should have replaced Nelson with Cuchulainn, O'Connell or some other Irish icon but kept the pillar. The Erection by the Intersection is a giant eyesore.

@TurfShifter 5 месяцев назад

Glad it went. Nothing to do with Ireland and had no place in Dublin. I don't agree with how it came down though as it should have been through the democratic process.

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

It could have been moved to England, rather than destroying it.

@OscarOSullivan 5 месяцев назад

At least a better sight than the spire. The column itself was a lovely classical design we could have put an Irish figure on it instead.

@jmo8934 5 месяцев назад

I think a lot did mind. That’s why the rebellion started.

@martinmcdonald4207 5 месяцев назад

Those scummy black and tans didn`t help matters!@freebeerfordworkers

@davidreed9671 5 месяцев назад

It was a wonderful viewing platform, blowing it up was typical of the nationalistic stupidity around at the time and is nothing to be proud of. Nelson removed and replaced by St Patrick would have been good enough and today we could have a glorious place to look over Dublin. Now we have a stupid spire, and I don't see the point! I have a Irish produced postcard that depicts the pillar with Nelson holding up an umbrella and being passed by a donkey cart!

@doloresbyrne5847 5 месяцев назад

Little gem this well done

@ronald3836 5 месяцев назад

They should replace it with a spire or something.

@tommymurphy459 5 месяцев назад

😂

@karylhogan5758 5 месяцев назад

😂😂👍🏻

@vespelian 5 месяцев назад

If they were going to stick a British hero on a pillar in Dublin, I'd have thought The Duke of Wellington would have been the obvious choice, at least he'd been born there.

@johnstevenson1709 5 месяцев назад

Why's that fellow from Dublin corporation stood in such an uncomfortable way?

@mrlotusmic 5 месяцев назад

He just came off Nelson’s column.

@bid84 5 месяцев назад

@@mrlotusmic😂

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

He's a civil servant. That's the only way they know how.

@scottyk200 2 месяца назад

“I think we should accept the whole past of our nation and not pick and choose.” Wise words, but yer man who wanted to put a plaque up was very fair and analytical.

@shingitai5882 5 месяцев назад

I wonder what the local opinion was when it was originally installed?

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

Irish people's opinions were not a consideration, they were seen only as cannon fodder for Britain.

@memofromessex 5 месяцев назад

It was mostly Anglican city at the time due to centuries of colonisation and tight control - and Irish who converted.

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

@freebeerfordworkers That's kinda like ,me, building a statue of ,me, in your living room and saying it's a tribute to 'you'.

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

@freebeerfordworkers How utterly romantic, a Mills and Boonesque rehashing of history. I would suggest you give Caroline Elkins A legacy of Violence, a read , old friend.

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

@freebeerfordworkers There's like zero context there ,as to who , where or what you're alluding . Which nine year old ?

@user-bk3gn7wl1e 5 месяцев назад

Apparently they did a piece about Mountbatten years later and the answer was………….

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

What?

@user-bk3gn7wl1e 5 месяцев назад

@@sandgrownun66 they didn’t want him either

@stephenchappell7512 5 месяцев назад

They could have removed Nelson and kept the column perhaps with Michael Collins on top instead

@jamesoneill2933 5 месяцев назад

Or Bobby Sands perhaps.

@gerryryan 5 месяцев назад

Could have had Michael Collins posing with the British guns he turned on his fellow Irishmen

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

@@gerryryancould have had him telling ejits like you to wssshht.

@romanomorelli2831 5 месяцев назад

Great idea but your a little late

@callu947 5 месяцев назад

It’s mad how ridiculous the BBC presenter portrayed the pillar. Everyone was against it, absolutely everyone but yet he ends the segment with a positive outlook on the future of the pillar.

@laurielovett8849 5 месяцев назад

Most people thought it was a crime to blow it up most people admired Nelson. Only for Nelson we all would have been taken over by the French.

@callu947 5 месяцев назад

@@laurielovett8849 are you Irish? I can tell you as an Irishman I wouldn’t like to be walking past Nelson every morning before work. It had no place here post independence. Clearly a lot more wanted it down

@CM-cy6ot 5 месяцев назад

@@laurielovett8849and what’s wrong with the French? They got rid of their inbred royals long time ago, the French ppl own the electric company and pay a quarter what all Europe pays, they own the rights to English electricity. Soo all the English paying bills are paying them at 3x times the price to a French company, you’d have to be stupid to want to be English.

@danielthevito9008 5 месяцев назад

@@laurielovett8849The French were more sympathetic to the Irish cause and aided in our rebellion in 1798 so the Irish wouldve most likely have been treated better under the French than under the British and the Protestant ascendency established in Ireland

@elizabethtobin6894 5 месяцев назад

@@callu947💯 agree

@spiderweenie 5 месяцев назад

Up went Nelson

@dennisgreene7164 5 месяцев назад

Up went Nelson.....dah-dee-dah-dee-dah

@SuperDonegal1 5 месяцев назад

He lost his head a few years later

@roberthenahan7885 5 месяцев назад

So much for your man in Dublin

@bryanmacinnes 5 месяцев назад

we should have had a referendum

@hefellump1 5 месяцев назад

Connell street now looks like downtown Delhi . Nelson was the least of our worries

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

Yes. We now have retrds like you blaming everything on the foreigners.

@markoshea6833 4 месяца назад

In Irish-America, the only one an Irishman doesn't want to see; is another Irishman.

@hefellump1 4 месяца назад

@@markoshea6833 is that a Joke Mark?

@markoshea6833 4 месяца назад

@@hefellump1 No.

@maryrosed8475 5 месяцев назад

My Dad was upset when the Pillar went. It was part of the Dublin landmark. Of course nobody was a fan of Nelson but the column was part of Dublin.

@Johnnyfive55 5 месяцев назад

The epitamy of "That didn't age well"

@gavintuesday4959 5 месяцев назад

During 1916, the English used the Helga gunboat to fire shells into O’Connells Street. They used Nelson’s Pillar as a guide. While the GPO garrison considered blowing it up, the polite niceties of the day was that it would anger the public . The poets among them really had their priorities arseways in terms of military ideas. But then , they also used a bakery as a garrison . Not the smartest of ideas . Remarkable that the place didn’t blow up

@Jontyfarmer 5 месяцев назад

Jiminy Cricket needs a statue

@brianquigley1940 5 месяцев назад

Am I the only person who saw the piece as another BBC condescending piss take? These old records are priceless and give great insight into the attitudes of the British towards us Irish back then.

@danielthevito9008 5 месяцев назад

First Irish Astronaut 🫡

@mjw12345 Месяц назад

Fun, respectful reporting - I was sure thrilled it was demolished using explosives 1966 but it would have been such a horror if anyone had been injured, killed. A massive statue of Famine Queen Victoria located in front of the Irish Parliament was diplomatically dispatched to Sydney, Australia some years prior. .

@brianeduardo1234 5 месяцев назад

Colonial rule was terrible

@garrymartin6474 5 месяцев назад

Its a shame they didn't make a gift of it to the people of Norfolk

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

No, they thought they'd destroy it, rather than make the gesture of a gift.

@tommymurphy459 5 месяцев назад

@@sandgrownun66"They"? You mean "the IRA"? Or do all Irish people look the same to you? 🙄

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

@@tommymurphy459 Dunno. What are even talking about? Whoever was involved in its destruction, I would suggest. Here's a little nugget of information, you obviously aren't aware of, in the form of a question and an answer. _Did people in Ireland support the IRA? “Do some of the Citizens of the Irish Republic support the methods of the IRA”, would be a far more accurate question. During the troubles from 1969 to 1996 support for Sinn Féin their political wing was always stayed within the 1 to 5% range. So 95% were not supportive of the Republican movement as a whole."_ You're welcome. Top of the morning to you.

@jumblestiltskin1365 5 месяцев назад

@sandgrownun66 the support for the IRA in Ireland is not as clear cut or anything near it as you'd imply here. Sure you'll find it if you go looking hard for it, but you'll have to look deeply. As the man in the middle segment says it was to be peaceably removed with care and gifted back to England. That would have been the majority view at the time. The IRA removed that option and much else since.

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

@@jumblestiltskin1365 "the support for the IRA in Ireland is not as clear cut or anything near it as you'd imply here." I was just stating facts, as I always do. There was somebody doing a lot of research to reach the conclusions they did. I'll go with them. Their knowledge is infinitely greater than mine.

@michaellawlor1267 5 месяцев назад

The two bespectacled "gentlemen" at the beginning look like brothers 🙂

@forthrightgambitia1032 5 месяцев назад

Just don't go up and spit plumstones down on everyone.

@cliddily 5 месяцев назад

It didn't even cost 15000 lbs of dynamite to have removed in the end!

@alimohammedabd 5 месяцев назад

Now there is a big spike instead

@liketheroman 5 месяцев назад

A roundabout? With seats for tired shoppers? Oh, Ireland! No wonder the country turned out how it did over the following decades.

@user-he8zj9uk4y 5 месяцев назад

WB Yeats wanted Nelson to stay...No surprises there.

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

And you never bothered to listen to the rest of what he said, no surprise there

@dowdallerno1 5 месяцев назад

It went.

@jbs9231 4 месяца назад

Ironically Nelson looks as if he's Standing on an Army / RAC Compound in Northern Ireland from the 70s / 80s..

@GarethKavanagh 5 месяцев назад

I am watching this looking at how the St has changed

@user-gs8rn8hp5n 5 месяцев назад

Nelson was an apologist for slavery.

@iaminpain58 5 месяцев назад

Good for him

@blueit101 5 месяцев назад

Half of Nelson's sailors were Irishmen.

@Dayda-7 5 месяцев назад

Up to the Irish, but many Irish served in the royal navy

@jumblestiltskin1365 5 месяцев назад

And still do! I was one of several in my small intake, I spent 23 years in Navy retiring from it 2 years ago.

@andym9571 5 месяцев назад

About 40% of the British Army was Irish at one point !

@MV12379 5 месяцев назад

Britain's greatest generals were Irish or of Irish extraction.

@bryanmacinnes 5 месяцев назад

what a lot of awful comments we should have replaced the figure, with james joyce or oconnell and left the pillar after all anyone who climed up would tell you the view was breathtaking

@Runboyrun89 5 месяцев назад

Dublin has never replaced that view

@Lala-kc2fw 5 месяцев назад

The spire is an eyesore

@CM-cy6ot 5 месяцев назад

Don’t cry so hard the colonised uncle toms they call dubs still have the monument at Stephens green to go and cry for

@James-th7wb 5 месяцев назад

It went alright

@aidangriffiths5075 5 месяцев назад

Well.. not a great sound off for the reporter 😂

@whitetroutchannel 5 месяцев назад

now you can have one of mo himself, enjoy dublin 👍👍

@benbhoy9 5 месяцев назад

At Least the Spire has a point ….. 😉

@davidreed9671 5 месяцев назад

I don't see it!

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

@@davidreed9671did you miss the joke?

@brianeduardo1234 5 месяцев назад

5 years later he was gone

@tonyclifton265 5 месяцев назад

"our man in dublin" lol

@vincentbyrne2394 5 месяцев назад

It is said that the exact moment that O'Connell Street and Dublin city centre began to go downhill can be traced to the blowing up of the Pillar on March 8 1966.

@billsmith305 5 месяцев назад

Can,t change history

@davidcarrol110 5 месяцев назад

Jack Charlton should take Nelson's place in Dublin.

@gerryryan 5 месяцев назад

You could build a column out of all his uncashed cheques

@stephenmurphy2212 5 месяцев назад

Or Padraig Pearse or Michael Collins. Pearse Pillar or Collins Pillar has a nice ring to it. 👌

@davidcarrol110 5 месяцев назад

@@gerryryan The money was resting in his account.

@Battismore-Blue 5 месяцев назад

Or Andy Farrell , another Englishman 🤪

@soldier2297 5 месяцев назад

And now you walk O Connell street you barely see an Irish person. Only hoards of Afghanis and Sub Saharans.

@Fatfrogsrock 5 месяцев назад

That street is literally like a refugee camp now, could not believe it when I was there. Very few native Irish.

@Fatfrogsrock 5 месяцев назад

@bernardfitzsimons6942 Wow! What an original comment, and pointing out reality is racist now? 😂

@sandgrownun66 5 месяцев назад

@@Fatfrogsrock Don't worry. It's the only word Bernie knows.

@scottishwildcat 5 месяцев назад

@@FatfrogsrockYou’re not pointing out reality though, are you. “Refugee camp” is not remotely accurate in this context. You’d do well to spend some time visiting actual refugee centres and learn a bit of empathy.

@Fatfrogsrock 5 месяцев назад

@@scottishwildcat You have just shown your ignorance, you have no idea what's going on in Dublin do you? There's makeshift refugee camps all over the city, it's full of tents in disgusting conditions. We are talking hundreds of people living together in literal rubbish dumps, with no ways to wash, diseases are spreading rapidly. It's an absolute disgrace.

@Fatfrogsrock 5 месяцев назад

@@scottishwildcat You obviously have no idea what's going on in Dublin to make that comment. The city is full of big groups of immigrants in tents in horrendous conditions. Literally thousands across Dublin.

@stephenmurphy2212 5 месяцев назад

The weird thing is I actually remember seeing this BBC newsreel feature in an RTÉ documentary about Nelson’s Pillar (can’t remember the name of it). It was shown in my class at school and this was not long after The Spire was built (the bland-looking landmark that had replaced it).

@Norvik_-ug3ge 5 месяцев назад

Sackville Street has never been the same since. Rebuild Nelson's Pillar.

@tonyclifton265 5 месяцев назад

which genius put it there in the first place?

@laurielovett8849 5 месяцев назад

The propleof Dublin wanted a statue to his memory he was a very very brave man. We could do with more of them 300 of his crew were Irishmen he was very well thought of.

@CM-cy6ot 5 месяцев назад

⁠@@laurielovett8849that’s funny so why did the people of Dublin blow it up? Brits put it up Irish took it down. Don’t speak for us. Pretty clear how we feel about the British butchers

@jamieoshea1681 5 месяцев назад

⁠@@laurielovett8849lmao is that why they want home gone? Because he was very well thought of?

@newtomthai3855 5 месяцев назад

so we got a spike ffs

@batcollins3714 5 месяцев назад

Far, far better than an English Lord looking down his nose at the Irish.

@sisi2484 5 месяцев назад

15,000 pounds? yes, sir alan ...of gelignite

@anthonyferris8912 5 месяцев назад

Amongst the crew of HMS Victory at the Battle of Trafalgar 63 were Irish.

@eric934 5 месяцев назад

Out of a crew of 850.

@Lala-kc2fw 5 месяцев назад

63 people for, Empire.

@anthonyferris8912 5 месяцев назад

@@Lala-kc2fw No, just fighting Napoleon’s domination of Europe..

@anthonyferris8912 5 месяцев назад

@@eric934 and 3 French

@Lala-kc2fw 5 месяцев назад

@@anthonyferris8912 I'm Irish. I like napoleon... Wolfe had a chat with him. Those 63, were for, Empire just like those in the great war. They weren't Irish. They British.

@thatswiked 5 месяцев назад

Couldve repurposed for another statue

@user-hp5qw3fv6m 5 месяцев назад

I was10 at the time my Aunt worked in Dublin she was upset when the pillar was blown up it was a landmark and we shouldn't forget the countless of Irish who made up a large portion of Britain's imperial might we can blow up Nelson but we were part of it, we shouldn't hide from a part of our history there wasn't only one side.

@martinmcdonald4207 2 месяца назад

Sorry Alan, 5 years later it was gone!