1965 Ingersoll pocket watch service - lessons were learned... 

It does the job! 99% isopropanol is great and doesn't eat most plastics and rubbers. It does, however, attack paintwork

Lighter fluid is fine - just flammable. Don't put that or isopropanol in the ultrasonic though!

Lighter fluid is perfectly fine. Don't listen to anybody that's telling you It doesn't work, it's the same thing. You simply need to make sure you clean it with alcohol after and dry it very well. You can even clean watches with dawn dish, soap, and warm water. All that matters is getting the water off after the cleaning. These instructions are also found in Quite a few Books written by Professional watchmakers

Yeah I plan to use Naphtha I got at the hardware store. I think that’s what it’s called.

My friend thankyou so much for the tip! I was trying to learn via other people's videos. I'll look those up as I'd really like to do better! Cheers for that also, I do intend to get a proper puller eventually. Thanks for the advice, it's always welcome here

@@LRWatchRepair Anyway, it is always interesting to watch newbies' repairs. Don't give up, keep on doing , and everything will be just fine! 👍

Cheers for the motivation! I'm really enjoying the hobby though at this point I do feel somewhat bad for my victims! I'll get there 👍

@@LRWatchRepair Hey dude hope you’ve been steadily improving. I’m going pretty deep into this now. No official “schooling” but it’s amazing what you can learn here on RU-vid and with books.

As far as I know they'll be the same! Yes certainly watch out for that! I had no excuse, I'd worked on similar movements, but it was recovered ready enough anyways. Best of luck 👍

@@LRWatchRepair If i can find a charger for my camera, I'll film it and we can compare

@Nathan Lucas you'll have to! I'd love to see that

@@LRWatchRepair It's taken me longer than I thought to get round to this, but I've finally started uploading watch repairs on my other channel. Just done a 1970s Seiko Quartz that had a battery leak causing corrosion problems. Got a smiths pocket watch coming up next. Still haven't got round to the Ingersol Triumph! Here's the link to the Seiko: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RE-X35eVA4o.html

@nathanlucas6465 great to see!

Thanks man! I actually have a Degausser, but unfortunately I'm questioning the quality of it... I reckon a new one may be in order...

@@LRWatchRepair What the heck, YT keeps removing my comments

@@LRWatchRepair Just test it with your phone! It's easy to do. Open the app, set the watch on it. Then spin it slowly. You might get a negative reading, this is the magnets repelling each other. Spin the watch slowly, & you'll see it spike. That means you need to demagnetize it. The cheap blue one from "a store named after a river" works fine. It's how you use it. Took me a second to figure out. Set the watch on the demagnetizer directly. Turn it on, & while holding the button, slowly lift the watch straight up until your arm is fully extended. Turn the watch around 180 degrees, & repeat. That should do it!

@@LRWatchRepair Some stubborn watches may take 2-4 cycles. Just check with your phone app. The app is for a non-apple cellular device. It's called "Magnetometer"

@@LRWatchRepair The app is for Android, & is called "Magnetometer"

That's great advice! Thankyou so much 👍

It's a pin pallet (roskopf) there is no pallet stones but an ultra sonic is fine you don't put pallets with jewels or a balance complete in anything stronger like iso or benzine as it erodes the shellac holding the jewels in place

@@LRWatchRepair If you do jeweled movements, use hexane on the pallet fork and balance assembly. It's the same as One Dip, but far cheaper. I realize this is an old video, so hopefully some other helpful person has told you this. You can safely use naptha\benzine\lighter fluid on the shellac parts, but no ultra sonic or alcohol.

That's a great idea! Cheers for the tip

I'll be sure to try this in the future as it could certainly save some effort, I'd be keen to see the efficacy of this

So it could just be a case of needing a service bud, If its still slow after you mate have a more significant issue on your hands, you could be needing to adjust the main spring. It's always best to do the easiest thing first, id get it serviced 👍🤞

Cheers man! Me too 😊

I'm afraid without looking myself I may not be of much use, my advice is to take plenty photos as you go to jog your memory potentially in the future. This being said, there are reference assembly manuals online for lots of movements, I can happily have a look at photos if you can share?

I reassembled my Ingersoll Trump watch, everything looked to be in their correct mounts. The balance spring, however, doesn't look like it is correctly coiled. The stem now seems to wind now, where previously it didn't move. The watch still doesn't work, so I suspect the balance spring has something to do with that. Is there an email address I can use to send a pic of the balance spring should I decide to disassemble it again?​@@LRWatchRepair

@garykerkstra1067 I agree with you from the description here. Those hairsprings are fantastically sensitive so if it isn't sitting right it's a non starter. That being said, there are replacements out there! Channel email is in the homepage: Lewisranshaw918@gmail.com Cheers

You were absolutely right Peter. What I didn't show was how meticulous I was in removing the parts! I didn't know these baskets were a thing but I'll certainly be looking into them! Thankyou very much! 😊

No time at all really! Just picked it up and had a go

I've damaged dials even with water alone! Always makes me so nervous

I haven't been doing this long at all my friend. And am learning leaps and bounds on the daily, includong the risks and dangers of vintage watches

@@LRWatchRepair Similar here - about 4 years now. Started off with the smith's movements. I still like them and have a few (from 1920's to 1980's) Look up WristWatch Revival - been watching his lately and learned a bit. Also, C S Spinner Watch Restorations is good. Both are a bit beyond my level but still learn a lot.

@@LRWatchRepair Made this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-srqzHXbt3DI.html

Haha sorry about that pal. Believe you me, if I could choose accents, I wouldn't have chosen this one! 😂

@LR Watch Repair nah, it's great! I was in Yorkshire some years ago when my daughter was living there, and her friends said I had the most amazing accent...and I'm thinking I just have a boring American one. Anyway I think it's great what you're doing. I'm about two years into it myself. Learning a lot, and buying tools, and having a ton of fun. But I will warn you: vintage wrist watches with the non-shock setting balance jewels...have the smallest most diabolical screws I've ever seen...and lost...I hates them. :'D

Ahh nice one. Well I was born and bred in Lincolnshire so not a million miles off! Always the way, love the accents! That's great to know I'm not along here! Seeming vertical learning curve... My next foe is a cheap mechanical Rotary luckily with the incabloc shock settings. It's gonna get very small, very quick!

Hi Tom, That's a great observation, I think you're absolutely correct. I'm all honestly I did attempt to rectify but was worried I was doing more harm than good! I'll certainly keep that in mind if I should have this issue in the future. Thanks again!

@@LRWatchRepair Yeah, You can guess how i understand Your concerns.... 🙂, well, i am sure, that this movements, or its spare parts (f.e. NOS parts - and especially the balance staff looks very similar to the Smiths brand watches from that era..) You can find on e-bay, maybe as a complete balance staff, and its change to fix the watch shall be very easy for You. But so as so - i have a spare time now, maybe i can advice You. The hairspring straithening does looks sometimes more complicated as its really is... On my Watchmaking beginning times (1986) i have learn from old and experience watchmaker, to use for those works on balance spring - except a very GOOD magnifying glass, two very sharp and fine tweezers - a clean, white sheet of hard paper, where i drew schematicaly the coil - as its should be in original - (thats mean - the right amount of threads, the diameter, and position of the "jewel" and of the connection point on the end of the spring). The damagged spiral hair spring i placed next to the drawing, and straight it in two main steps: 1 - make it "an open thread" - thats mean, with a needle, holding the center with a pegwood, i was "driving" with the needle between the threadet wirde from the brass center to the end fixing point, and trying, that each individual turn or thread is "seaparated" (should NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER) - then look on such a coil and point with a red marker, where is the "wire" bend - and correct it - HOLDING THE POINT IN A TWEEZER AND SIMPLY AND CAREFULLY STRAIGHT/STROKE THE WIRE WITH THE NEEDLE. 2 - make it "flat" - thats mean, trying, that the coil is COMPLETELY touching the paper, where is lying - if not - point with a green marker those points, where the wire rises from the surface - AND HOLD THE WIRE WITH TWO TWEEZERS BEFORE AND BEHIND ITS BENDING POINT - AND TURN THE TWEEZER BEHIND TO THE PAPER/FLATNESS. After You´ll fix the coil of the hair spring, notice, that the location the coil on balance wheel shall guaranteed, that the escape wheel bearing + pallet fork bearing + the balance output controll jewel ("nose") - are in one line (depend the beat error on this rule). You will see, that to fix the balance spring coil - ist not a tragedy... I hope, i am not disturbing with my loooong writing, well finally i was trying only to help "on a long distance" 🙂 Good luck a have a lot of succesfull watchmakers projects !!!!! T.

My friend, Thankyou so much for your concise response and you're incredibly clear instructions on how to straighten a hair spring! I really appreciate you taking the time to inform me of that 😊 I look forward to further help and advice from you as I carry on this journey. Thanks mate