Wow, that TV is in excellent shape; the antenna isn't broken off, the paint and chrome is still completely intact - amazing! I remember the TV commercials for those sets, the handle on the side was really attractive in the mid-1960's. I think Motorola was responsible for driving a lot of the TV technology during the 1960's. They came out with the first rectangular color CRT in 1964, pioneered the one PC board set, and began designing IC's to integrate most of the TV down to a chip set. They also came out with the Quasar line "Works in a drawer" (plug in replaceable PC boards) in 1967; their premium color set line, which was much higher quality than anything else at the time. You'll notice on that B&W set you are working on, the flyback is encased in silicone rubber, which was superior to what everyone else was doing that at that time. Also notice that your set is filled with GE (General Electric) style Compactrons (2 to 5 tubes in one package). I think GE came out with this tube line around 1960 and I suspect it had a lot to do with the longevity of tubes/slow change over to transistors. To keep competitive, the TV manufacturers cost reduced their products as much as possible. This tube line enabled GE to introduce a 10" color portable TV in 1966 for the unheard of price of $150 (if my memory is correct). I think it had only 11 tubes. Yes, the cigarette smoke drenched TV's are nothing new, that high voltage attracts it nicely. Since Bill Clinton decided cigarette smoking was evil and needed to stop when he was in office, you haven't really seen what I had to put up with in the TV shops in the mid-1970's. One of the shops I worked for would refurbish used sets, the ones with white cabinets that were in a heavy cigarette smoke environments were brown, the color of coffee with creamer. Of course the smell was quite noticeable from 10 feet away. We used Fantastic general purpose house cleaner to strip the nicotine, and it came off looking like black coffee. That fusable link resistor looked like it suffered for a long time before blowing (notice the corrosion on the leads from high heat). I have never seen one shred up like that one did. That resistor exterior may have had a fiberglass/asbestos weave. Asbestos was commonly used at that time for most any high temperature application. All the schools I went to growing up had asbestos ceiling tiles. I think asbestos is still being used for the brake material in cars, simply because there is no suitable replacement.
The notes on that package are invitations to the shipping gorillas to do exactly the opposite. "Packaging has to be adequate enough to survive being thrown down a flight of stairs." A quote I witnessed from a UPS employee at a receiving center.
This is how I package my stuff. You can throw it across the delivery van in rage an anger. My package won’t budge. Years of ebay and work experience. I meant it. There are so many parcels and so little time and underpaid frustrated workers. Wanna play soccer? No problem. I have a box inside a box inside layers of foam and wrap and tape. On occasions I remove components and package them separately... Never lost one 😀
Barring the power resistor that "EOL'd" itself, this thing is _pristine_ I was watching Sesame Street on one of these things when I was but a toddler...
@@ct92404 A lot of vintage TVs were operated by kids, while their parents gave orders from their La-Z-Boy perches. Those same kids were forbidden from touching the radio/stereo console. Go figure.
I guess quite often these old sets ended up in kitchens and eventually kids' bedrooms as the main one in the living area got replaced. Kinda like with cars - Dad gets a new car, and instead of junking the old one hands it down to one of the teens to run about in. When I was 12 or so I got the old Sanyo music center that had been in the living room up to them - it had been replaced with a new Don't separates system with CD player.
I loved that bit at the end! You should do a 5 minute video, explaining how a tv works but as if you’re talking to a nuisance caller. Our old 625 lines PAL system was shut down too long ago. I miss it!
I'd guess the plastic wrap was because the seller knew exactly what that white powder was and didn't want the USPS to come knocking when it spilled out of the box along the way.
@@keithbrown7685 The "smarter" something is the more complicated it is. The more complicated it is the more there is to go wrong. Smart technology is not smart design.
I love it when people pack things like it's the only package the package carrier will be delivering that week. They probably thought it would be driven on the same truck from the pickup point to the delivery address too. Also like the news clip showing the fire hose wrapped over the top of a car that was probably illegally parked in front of a hydrant. In some places, they would have had the windows busted, or doors peeled open so they could run the hoses through the car.
thats typical ebay shipping though.. I bought a bulk of Motorola PM400 mobiles (46 of them for a narrowband rework) and non were wrapped individually. Only thing in the 3 boxs was loose radios and styrene peanuts.. The boxs were split and leaking bits of hardware (mic holders and screws...) 5 of the radios suffered damage by the postal service and I was missing 2 mics and a boat load of mounting screws..
*radiotvphononut* is famous not only for his knowledge of vintage electronics (solid state and tube) but also his eBay rants and I can relate to his position with shipping and packing. Been there, done that.
Very informative, excellent video, Mr Shango, big thumbs up as usual. You hit it lucky with that nice TV, and a strong CRT. Regarding asbestos: There is a crude method of quickly determining whether glassfibre, mineral wool or asbestos. The fibres in question are held into the flame of one of these small propane torches for soldering. Glassfibre will melt, mineral wool will disintegrate, and asbestos may glow, but generally survives unharmed. Binding it in water is the preferrable method, clever people back in the days of asbestos always kept it wet when handling..
In 1972, when I was 5, I remember my mom buying one of these. We lived in Wickenburg, about 55 or 60 miles northwest of Phoenix. It was indeed sensitive. It got a picture with only the antenna built into the handle.
You scored a good one here. Nice, sharp picture. The handle on the side is pretty unique, never seen that. Always expected to have a handle on the top. The asbestos rock was interesting as well. Outstanding video here, well done!
you got lucky. Most of the ones I've ever seen of the type with the antenna in the handle usually have the plastic broken out in the antenna missing. Should be a keeper once you get it fixed.
I'm not complaining but I get more nervous about asbestos then some, not sure why. Just the fluffy kind and also brake dust. Used to live on a one way down hill city street with lots of traffic and a traffic light at the bottom of the hill. Lots of large trucks stopping downhill and lots of tiny shiny particles spinning in the air in a shaft of sunlight made me wonder.
I just bought a transistor radio today, a Pepsi radio. I know the seller and he packs things good. What it is that they throw boxes. There is a label that the postal service uses. The thing is sellers don’t use them.
I like it. Interesting design. Might have been a TV like we had when I was just a few years old. My father said we had a Motorola portable I think. Lightning took it out he said. Maybe a 19" set. I don't know.
I'm still watching the video but just wanted to say how much I enjoy your content. Especially the long videos you've done. I remember growing up I wanted to refurbish old electronics, but life lead me on a different track. So, I spend my work days watching and listening to your videos. Also, is the plastic screen cover still on your Kill A Watt? :p Haha
1:50 "Come to where the flavor is! Marlboro Country!" Glad it made it! The Moto factory service data was the best! Get your hazmat suit out for the asbestos. Is asbestos still being used. Will watch the rest later. Great find, plus the usual Shango center of excellence! 1:30 PM PDT. Watched the rest of the video. Great set. Schnozzocoimler!!
In the UK asbestos was banned in the mid-80s. There was a factory in my city that produced asbestos products; people who were around in the 60s said they remembered it collecting in gutters and at the sides of the road like snow. Most of those people are now dead.
Open fuse-ohm resister, a very common problem back when these sets were in daily service. Nearly all series string B&W sets had them, always carried several replacements in the tube caddies.
Very nice little set there Shango, nice score on a mint set! LOL @ the DNC comment, but the accuracy is pretty sad too... Motorola, the asbestos goes in before the name goes on. Great vid as always, thanks for sharing!
When I saw that rock, I felt tempted to say " _can you smell what the Asbestos Rock is cooking?_ " (sorry, couldn't resist) ... ... but seriously though this is another vintage TV from the 60's in working condition with a good clear picture - and one that may not need a bulk re-cap or IF alignment.
Always good to see a survivor like that. The little tv's can hide in basements, garages and piles of junk pretty easily, but they can just as easily get tossed out.
That resistor was for sure asbestos. I have ran into the same issue in some older industrial electronics. The safest way to deal with it would be dampening and using a high power vacuum (a wet vac with a reduction nozzle and a HEPA filter) Afterwards you could spray the internals with a heavy layer of clearcoat to try and trap any remaining stray fibres.
It's interesting... I tried to look up information on Asbestos resistors, and I didn't find anything really that looked like yours. Better safe than injured.
Yep, there was an asbestos factory in Leeds (on Armley Canal Road) that contaminated the whole neighbourhood with the stuff. Apparently the fibres used to blow through the streets and into houses like snow. Most of the people who lived in the houses ended up getting cancer - I think they sued the company but lost. Apparently they knew about the dangers before the war but kept them hushed up.
thanks for sharing an interesting old valve set in great order, amazing a 53 year old set, it looks new inside and a great picture hardly having to do anything, wow, do you have to pay loads for sets like that?
I used to have a 19 inch motarolla black and white tv years ago. I got from the votech school when i took electronics class in my junior and senior years of high school. I went and bought tubes to fix the sound and unfortunately it had a major power supply short so long story short it was trashed. Never saw another one like it as of yet. This tv is great.
That TV is amazing. Minus the Asbestos fuse. I've always wondered why some imagery causes that buzz in the speaker. I noticed it all my life on analog crt tv.
Yes I have noticed that all my life as well. When a words banner is at the bottom of the screen, you get the buzz. When my grandpa would turn off the b&w zenith console so that we would get ourselves to the dinner table, the picture would instantly contract to a bright tiny star in the center of the screen.
Never eat the blue asbestos... Nice score there with that set, wonder if a Philco would've made it through shipping like that? (Actually probably yes, it's nothing other than blind luck you got that thing intact! Not even any packing material to help hold the vac. transistor bulbs)
Taking that tv out into the yard and blowing it out is exactly what i would have done. In the scheme of things the amount of dust inside it would do no harm to anything once released and dispersed. But what a fantastic find, such good condition for a tv that is the same age as me - wish i was still in such good shape!
That's a really nice set, and a survivor as well. I think you're a little too concerned about the asbestos. You did the right thing by blowing it off outside with a respirator, but once done, that set is perfectly fine to use in your home. Remember, asbestos is only a threat when it's airborne--left undisturbed, it doesn't pose a health threat
Hey there, I have a set identical to this one that I inherited. When I opened the back I was that the ferrite frame on the fly back had completely split in half. What could I do to fix that??
very nice set for its age, love that sturdy carry handle with antenna and a headphone jack. i think that other fuzzy stuff is pet fur, or maybe excessive smokers fuzz? But you never know about older stuff if its fiberglass or asbestos. best to play it safe , either way, its not good to inhale at your ecoli bbq. lol
Looks like they made this design of a set for a while. I have a '74, Dark Brown with the built in side handle, with not the whole face white, but a white bezel around the crt and a white panel behind brown knobs. A severely hybidized one with two tubes, a 25JZ8 and a 50GY7, and a detented UHF tuner. Works fine for a while and then the brightness starts blinking on all the way and eventually winds up with a solid all the way bright screen. Made in Taiwan. I hope to be able to sit down and troubleshoot this at some point. Yea, I've had stuff that I bought on ebay arrive laying in the bottom of a box with no packing at all, but sometimes still in perfect condition, other times wrecked, don't know how that happens, or why people pack stuff this way, I guess once they have the money, they just really don't care. I guess they figure if you bought the shipping insurance that will take care of it, and if not, oh well.
This is the exact TV we had when I was 5 years old. It had UHF which our older set did not....I watched Speed Racer on channel 32 everyday on this set...if you want to sell it please let me know...I like your honest style in your videos...Scott
I noticed these Japan and Taiwan tube sets, they have to warm up for at least a half an hour before adjusting linearity I have a couple RCAs from 73 they're black and white and tube and when they're cold the bottom is all stretched out and as they warm up the bottom becomes compressed so when you first turn them on the pictures all messed up and then as they warm up the linearity straightens out to where you've adjusted it when it's hot.
The first of my cousin's to pass on died of that cancer. It was no fun, he suffered greatly, and refused to put in any claim against the asbestos organisations, said he knew what it was when he began working with it. Since then I have lost a few more, but then we were a large bunch as our fathers had many brothers.
