Even that will end up getting broken if anything more like a solid block of metal that will probably get stolen then sold for scrap for someone's meth addiction.
Never let them pack anything. I spent over 100 bucks shipping 2 matted concert posters back home and of course, they got dinged. Not damaged but I was so pissed I demanded at least a partial refund and that turned into another unbelievable nightmare.
No kidding there. I recently found a good deal on an old Triplett 630 VOM, but I wanted to make sure the meter movement survived the journey. On delivery day, I made sure to watch my security cam's so, when the driver arrived, I met him in front and didn't give him a chance to throw it 10 or more feet at my back door.
@@directcurrent5751 More likely than not, they will transport packages with the label on top, or maybe on a side they can scan it, but as far as a "this side up" label, ya, god luck with that!
32:25 Don't worry, PCB was never used in ELECTROLYTIC capacitors; it's not conductive. PCB was an isolating oil that was rather used in non-polarized caps and transformers. In an electrolytic cap, you want the fluid to be sorta conductive and not isolating.
It's often just a mixture of glycol and some type of salt. The glycol probably dissolved the cloth wire. it tastes sweet and is poisonous, main ingredient in antifreeze.
I have the 1968 version and that set and the .18uf cap went bad for the chroma 3.85mc osc went bad and the vertical noise filter went.everything else is still original to this day.
Your sense of humor is impeccable! Love your videos, brings me back to the mid 70's when I repaired those old tube TV's as a, believe it or not, teenager. Imagine the look on the customer's faces when a kid in braces cracked open the back of a console. I used my skills as a fallback during the wonderful and competent Carter administration. I rarely, very rarely, had to take a Zenith chassis "back to the shop" to fix on a test jig. If you couldn't repair a Zenith TV/console in home, you were just considered incompetent. You did need a well stocked van. Zenith rocked as far as build quality and ease of access for repair. I could pull off a complete kine job in 1/2 hour, purity and convergence was simple. OEM CRT's only, none of that rebuilt garbage. US built Zenith products had no rival.
You pay "The UPS Store" DOUBLE the price to ship as you do if you box it yourself and take it to UPS. The "UPS" "Store" and others like it are NOT owned OR affiliated by UPS at all. They merely USE UPS! You pay some teenager with a squeaky voice (they're still going through puberty) to sell you a box and fill it full of "popcorn" from a hopper up above. The same deal applies to the USPS. When you go online, ONLY go the USPS actual website. You've got to be careful, many companies try to copy and LOOK like USPS. The USPS is one of the few exceptions where the government does it better!
It says on the box Fragile. That , according to shippers, is Italian for "treat me like a cheap whore". LOL I think Rybelsus , a small pill , allows glucose to pass through your urine so it helps diabetics by lowering blood sugar. But you pee a lot all day if you eat or drink sugary drinks. So you don't get dehydrated you must replace that fluid loss with water, diet teas, or diet sodas. Go for the unsweetened tea.
I don’t think they’ll ever completely stop making incandescent lights. We still get new incandescent light bulbs for the control lighting in the machines in the factory I work in because of… reasons. There are also some smart home lighting control switches that require at least one incandescent light in the fixture to provide smart home capability to certain old building wiring configurations. Incandescent lighting is useful for many reasons similar to the use you put it to. Just not for lighting.
There will always be incandescent or halogen bulbs for specialized uses... they just won't be the very cheap items they used to be. For high-heat applications like inside ovens. And I need them as small electric heaters to keep barn water pumps from freezing in the winter. They also of course light up the pumphouse, and can I tell at a glance that they are still working and the fuse hasnt blown.
@ 29:40 "Spray on me, Daddie" sounds like the perfect ask when capturing "Capacitor Failure Porn" Entertainment at it's finest! I wouldn't consider, or risk, buying something that big that needed shipping. Most FBMP purchases I have made were good, all fairly local drives, got to check out important stuff like a Hickok 600 tube tester before buying, but also ran into a "bait and switch" , where someone advertised a Nakimichi integrated amp that needed work, but when I got there, a man who couldn't speak English had 3 low priced receivers sitting on a table. I said Nakamichi, and he kept pointing to the crap, I left,, tried to message the FB account holder, she said it was a "misunderstanding" , but she was unwilling to be on site for a sale, so, I reported the seller. for fraud.
Mr. Shango, The change, inflection of your voice when describing unnecessary damage to these sets really show the passion you have for these. IT REALLY IS COOL! Thanks for the video!
Usually when I smell burning electronics and see the magic smoke, I unplug it so fast and sit there shaking like I just avoided a near collision on the expressway at 90mph.
Do not let the liquid from the capacitor get on the circuitry. It is conductive and will cause strange problems. It is probably water soluble, it can be cleaned with water or 70% alcohol.
Long time ago I worked during school holidays at a distribution center. From that experience I can tell you there is no point in putting a "Fragile" sticker or handling instructions for anything you ship, you might as well put a "Kick me!" sticker on it. Actually it might be safer to put a "Kick me!" sticker on it as it might take away the incentive to drop it from 3 meters just to hear if that breaks whatever is in the box.
The fragile stickers instead make UPS drop it even more. Look's like someone probably kicked the side of the box in to cause the back to kink in like that.
My family owned a small-town Western Auto Associate Store in the 70s. Having electronics degree and some experience as a mechanic, I was the appointed to be the local appliance technician. I remember a particular 18-inch model Truetone color TV that always burned out that same thermistor.
Well... once you bring it to someplace to pack it, even if you give them instructions, you have no control over what the finished packing looks like, or how it was done, which is truly unfortunate, but shipping anything that large with a fragile picture tube is a hazard unto itself.
@@poormanselectronicsbench2021 I didn't say the seller is responsible for packing it. I said most people can't seem to follow instructions no matter how simple they are. I've shipped over 2000 vintage electronics. I've NEVER had a single complaint. 100% feedback and compliments is what I've received. As Shango said, DOUBLE BOX it face down.
@@charleswillsonpeale5739 I got it, as with about anything, doing it yourself is the only way you can guarantee that you get what you would like in a packing job.
A month or two ago I just purchased the 1971 version of this with the plastic chassis it came in perfect condition was shipped UPS and with very little effort it was working fine, like you said in a previous video it's a zenith it'll either work or it'll take you the rest of your life to fix.
They are internal tie points for the various components that Shango showed underneath the chassis. Each one forms a little cup, if you will, into which the component leads are fed into at the time of assembly, and then heated and solder is added. They also serve as test points if you know which components are tied together. Some of the test points are formally labeled on top of the chassi, in the Zenith literature, or in the Sam's Photofact.
@@waltschannel7465 , I spotted general electric sets that were made in the early 1950's, where the tube sockets that had solder pockets. you are 100% correct, it started to go away in the early 1970's, when companies were transitioning to p.c. boards/ transistor circuits. tube circuits were on the decline by this point in time. we had an R.C.A. tube factory in town that closed in 1975( CINCINNATI OHIO).
It's hard to believe they made such a monstrosity in 1969. I suppose this was designed earlier and so that's why it's a bit obsolete for 69. It's a work of art though. It is amazing just how much progress happened just in the 70s with regards to TV sets.
The color TV set like this was price out of reach of middle class American back in 1966. I remember 19" Zenith transistor sold at shopping mall for around $350.00 new with 1 years warranty that you have to carry it to service center. The home service is about $80.00-120 plus parts plus sales taxes. You can finance with furniture store credit with 23% interests with $20.00 per months or 8.00 per week payment.
@@johnmadow5331 Part of why it was so expensive is the lack of PCBs in the set and the high parts count and the 14 or 15 tubes in it. With PCBs, you can load them up and then solder them automatically, whereas with P2P wiring, it all has to be done in chassis (not in set, just in chassis) one part at a time by hand. Transistor sets were really inexpensive when I was a kid (I was born around 1970). I even got a black and white set for my room around 1978 and my father was a working man. But that might not reflect conditions in 1969. However, I think it's probably an older design, even if 69 was the first year for this TV. Maybe a 2 year lag time to design and then eventually start building the sets.
A monstrosity to your modern eyes, but back in the day Zeniths were among the most reliable brands around, and easier to get serviced than something cutting edge like Sony.
I like Your style Sir,👍 I am Not a native speaker but, yet, I can understand almost everything. Thanx for this cool video🎥❗ 1 question - How can I be sure that it was made in 1 9 6 9 ? Thanx❗😀
We once got a new TV because Dad was attempting to repair the Trinitron and slipped or something, made a short on the board and it arced .. wow was he ever sunk. Bought a new Trinitron and never looked back. Before that 1984 Sony revolution, we'd ran a 69 Zenith console straight into the dump . . . it'd played constantly for like 25 years. best Bugs Bunny Roadrunner set ever.
If you go full power on with bad capacitors like that, they'll probably blow the seal and shoot out a lot of steam and smoke. I was a kid about 40 years ago and ran into someone giving me an old tv chassis. No box. One tv given to me happened to have a focus coil on the neck. More likely a very old set. I powered it on full before I knew all this. It wouldn't run. So, I left it on for awhile to see if it will even come on. Suddenly, one of those three capacitors blew so hard that the smoke came out from underneath the chassis in all directions. No explosion, thankfully but blew a hole through the bottom of the capacitor.
@13:18 i saw an add for zenith where it showed that part and said it was a “tube saver” where it stopped the electrical spike going to the tubes at startup thus increasing tube life as most tubes fail because of such a spike.
The Zenith logo always puts me in mind of my 3 fav 50’s sci-fi films: War of the Worlds. This Island Earth. Forbidden Planet. I would watch the hell out of them on a T.V. like this..🤔
This video was playing while I was cleaning around the room and also my ps4 was on because I would play a match or 2 of rocket league in between, but then I heard that noise around the 44:06 while cleaning and I thought it was my ps4, specifically the fan going bad lol. Glad it wasn't!
I worked in warehouse in late 80s. We would ship stuff via UPS and I remember seeing in their guidelines that you needed to pack stuff to withstand a 6 foot fall onto concrete. Anything fragile should definitely be double boxed.
Why the hell would anybody in CA use UPS.???….every time they have a union dispute they destroy packages….I have had stuff delivered that was wrapped with duct tape and contained dirt clogs and weeds….that’s one of the reason I left that dumpster fire of a state
I was looking forward to your video about the solid state vibrator. The video appeared in my notifications, but was listed as private. I'm not sure if you did this until you edited the video or finished it. Please keep us posted on this as it looks like a really cool project. That radio sounded really good and as a vintage car enthusiast, I'm happy to see that someone cares enough to restore one.
You know it’s so funny i’m in Michigan and here UPS is awesome and FedEx is garbage but I know that changes from state to state or even County to county.
In my experience you can get lots of shit for free just by being willing to travel and communicate. Especially with CRTs alot of people just want them gone as fast as possible. The money part is usually only necessary to get the nicest shit
About the incandescent bulbs, they are still in production, here in europe after they were banned manufactures just changed the name of the product and just continued to make and sell them
if the tubes have "DATE CODES", they are original tubes( with E.I.A. code numbers). the yellow inked tubes were made by SYLVANIA ,or WESTINGHOUSE. white inked tubes were either made by GENERAL ELECTRIC or R.C.A replacement zenith tubes had orange ink with no date code/ E.I.A. number.
Two big differences: 6LF6 has 12-pin compactron base, PL519 has a 9-pin. PL519 gas a 300mA heater for series sets, the EL519 has a 6.3V heater like 6LF6
Agreed. Some of the commercials on YT have finally sunk to the abysmal, insulting, level that "broadcast" TV had gone to...And, as if were even possible, perhaps even lower. Nowadays, before clicking on any VJO, I have my thumb ready on the "you know what" button.
I once moved a tv with the face down and a little piece of something fell down into the shadow mask creating a little black spot. Luckily after using it over the following weeks the degaussing seemed to have dislodged it.
Had to be divine intervention, God knew A hipster was gonna turn it into a goldfish bowl so he picked it up protected the neck with his hands and delivered it to the man who could use it!
When I sell something I dont even respond to suspicious users or accounts that are less than 3 years old or people with strange foreign names. I should start refusing pick up in the first place because its not worth having strangers at the door for cheap items and its easy to get scammed for expensive items. And always mention no warranty/shipping at own risk/no refunds ect in the ad pages. It probably drives a lot of people away but whatever.
I feel your pain, there is a motorola 17P6 portable in Chicago like the one me and my father (deceased) first worked on. Havent seen one in over 30 yrs. And i KNOW it would get destroyed in shipping...
Bent mask? With the CRT intact ouside? Do you have one working with mask bent for me to see? The mask is stretched and before it can bent the CRT would always brake first. Sometimes you say some impossible things but I think anything is possible in your world. I like your work and find your videos funny but sometimes your inertia bending imagination goes all the way to the infinite. Hugs.
Dry, sardonic wit. The other guy in the comments was right. Your tone and voice inflection tends to convey a LOT of information. I have emailed you regarding a piece of test equipment. I do not expect to hear back from you as I indicated in the email.
@@shango066 I was very short and to the point as to your style. Based on this video, I will re-send the email and put proper contact information within including valid phone number. It may not even be of interest to you, and I understand that. My RU-vid name will be in the subject line as well. I'm sending from a gmail account and I find that I often get filtered to spam even to another gmail account.
@@TechGorilla1987 I thought I replied to that...That thing is super cool but Im not sure I would ever use it. I do very little design layouts, I think the vibrator was my first in many years. Mostly work on tube or early germanium solid state stuff and mainly repair.
@@shango066 Excellent. No worries on this end. I just figured that i would offer it up as I appreciate your content. Your personal reply is a nice touch.
U-tube would rather pay out to those that deserve, have two bucks each time, enough for a beechnut~ sorry they are threatening you, please don't give up, have a BOSE, in fact two, but sweatin out the caps, and runnin' hot~ like you, can fix anything too~
What a jumble of parts being more reminiscent of 1950s construction! By the 60s, most manufacturers were using PCBs and solid-state in at least the low-voltage stages.
Loved the "Leaky Cap" segment. I pulled a not so smart move about a month ago and stuck a bottle of speaker repair cement in the microwave oven for 30 seconds. It started to boil out of the cap like a volcano! It took twenty minutes to clear the air. Growing up my father only purchased Zenith televisions.............
I understand the need to remove the knobs and the intention behind putting the tube face down, but I'm wondering, how much will that help when the box will probably end up in every direction during shipping?
I hate shipping anything a little larger. I've seen boxes with holes where the fork of a fork lift has just benn pushed through the box..... Sometimes shipping is unavoidable, but more often than not something is damaged. Looks like the damage on this set is not so bad and the set is saveable. These are a well made and nice set. In Australia, we don't get a stuff like this and finding decent tube era TV's and Radios can be hard.
What can you expect when you let an item be packed by grossly underpaid UPS staff that is treated like trash? Long live free market competition ! The best way to cut costs is to cut wages and work conditions. Don’t complain if you don’t get first class treatment for third class fare. You are among the ones who opt for low prices.
I did get even with a Fedex Ground driver. You see my kids bought me one of those RING doorbells with the camera in the button. It takes wonderful video, and I can zoom in and read the name tag on my neighbor across the street if I desire. It alerts me through my Alexa app and shows me who is at the door automatically. So the dude was parked across my driveway with his side door open. He was sorting through the packages by picking them up, reading the labels then drop kicking the packages out of the way if they were not mine. Mine arrived intact, I was amazed, however I saved the video and called the main office in a nearby city. I got their email and sent them the video. They called me a week later to assure me that the driver was no longer in their employment. Since then my packages arrive in fairly good condition.
Why were this kind of devices made like a mess of electronic components? That looks a nightmare to repair. I mean, if you need to unsolder something, how can you find where to unsolder from that pile of components?
love the "spray on me daddy". see we have similar hobbies ;-). in retrospect of retro electronics like computers and tv, to restore or emulate that is the question....
Here is a question maybe someone can answer. Why is static on an empty channel in a color tv only black and white? Why doesn’t the static have some color? Is it just that static dosent trigger that functionality in the set? Just always wondered.
