1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 vs 1970 Oldsmobile F85 W 31 | STOCK DRAG RACE 

Or because its 100 lbs lighter...

@@chevyblue10...exactly

Horsepower/lb wins drag races. Gears are the difference in this race.

It was a 100 lbs. lighter which is usually good for a 10th. Great running car though.

And more torque

Oh it was a quick one,I bought a 69 F-85 W-31 , only difference was I had a 4Speed Hurst,& positraction. They forgot to mention that my 350(W-31 engines) were All factory blueprinted , these cars had slicks i believe as on Crap street tires of the day and I had the newest Polyglass red stripes,best was low 13's,mid to high 13 usually. Into 12 easily on slicks and headers opened up. I miss that car so much, got married traded on a 1971 TOYOTA,probably a first

That Olds did just what it was designed to do, piss off a bee nest.

I go on market place and craiglist everyday here in the states and I have only scene TWO W31 cars for sale. They are hard to find, especially not in a project state. Fortunately since everyone wants a w30 with the 455 the w31 in good shape is only in the 30s and is a great deal that was overlooked

@@danhoyland142 Totally agree Dan, 1970 W30 were so cheap 5 plus years ago but now they are all fetching over the $ 150,000 easy & as they should. Just love to get my hands on a 1968 W31 just a pocket rocket. The cost to import it into Australia what ever you buy it for in the states, double it & add an extra 20 % & that is what it will cost you. Thanks for the heads up. Cheers Louis 👍

You stole my name. LOL

Think this is pure stock, he said the rules on other videos, but can't remember but one, and it was you can go up one compression ratio, oh and tune the carb was another, there's a few more

No, not that much the way these guys set them up.

Ever own a 440? Do you know how hard it is to keep that monster from spinning? Yes. Hell yes. Slicks would make a world of difference for that MOPAR.

That A 12 driver was doing one helluva job, feathering that pedal.

@@chevyblue10 440? No, sir, I wish! best I ever had was a 413 w/4.89s in a A12 bee body. I was never able to find out what happened to its original engine. I had a lot of traction problems with that. one definite advantage these guys have with street tires is that they're on a drag strip. have you ever walked around the start line on a hot day? that area has sooo much stick-em and melted tires you had better have your shoes laced up tight or you're leaving them stuck to the track. fortunately, I had slicks for the bee. the only other car I took to the track did have street tires. it was a Challenger, 340 auto with 4.30s and headers. that thing had no low end. a little tire spin would have really helped it out. best I got out of that one was a high 14 at 97mph. it needed a smaller converter bad. the good old days, sigh...

@@chevyblue10 fantastic drivers. no way in h I could do that. I bet with slicks, some of these 4 speed cars would be getting the front tires in the air. imagine reving up to 6 grand and just slipping your foot off of the clutch pedal. in my day, there was a '69 Barracuda with a hot 340, 4 speed and slicks. we used to race on the edge of town by the airport. my brother used to work for a land surveying company and we got him to measure a perfect 1,320 starting on a small concrete bridge. so, you had a few car lengths of concrete launch pad then the rest was asphalt. anyways, the Barracuda got 3, 6 grand launches, lifted the front tires a few inches each time, before the u joints said bye bye. oh, another time(at band camp) a '40 Ford dropped his front u-joints at the end of the quarter and pole vaulted himself into the ditch on the side of the road. he was ok, the car was destroyed. it left a wicked gouge in the road that was there for many years. when we first started a serious street race scene. like dummies we would all drive in a big long procession out to one of our 3 spots. naturally the cops caught on to that and would swarm us. we finally got smart and had everybody break up into 2s and 3s and sneak out of town. another place we had was a concrete road. great traction. we never measured that one. the finish was just considered to be the 3rd ginormous power pole. another one was by the naval air station. we got some of the groupies to measure that one with a 100 foot extension cord, lol. that place was the worst, tho. all asphalt and a box canyon. when the cops showed, we were definitely caught. cars used to line up on both sides of the road, start to finish. it was awesome. we were pretty stupid and lucky that nobody ever got hurt. that Ford was the only casualty in many years.

My guess is Dusters and Demons.

Road Runner. It was built specifically to fit that description.

Olds 350. Nothing in common with a Chevy 350 but the cubic inches.

You Damn Right, Mopar Don't Go Far !!!

Read the rules for pure stock. They are allowed some modifications. If the W31 was taking advantage of all of them and the A12 wasn’t it can make a big difference.

I don’t think you understand inflation

Yeah exactly like the 71 Boss 351, would take out All Those 350,s, 340,s, 396,s, and along with Many 383 Mopars, it was a Big Block Killer.

@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Wish I had 1. I did have a 429 SCJ/ 1970 Torino with a 3.90 rear end

@@brucebryan4081 Very nice, Those 429 CJ and SCJ,s run Very Good. The 70 Torino Cobra actually one of my favorites.

@@badass6.0powerstroke10 Mine ran good. Family friend worked at Ford in Advance Engine enginering. He knew how to tweak it.

For every ounce of hp/torque out of the modified Olds, you can get 1-1/2 out of the 440... How, exactly, is the modified Olds gonna beat the modified 440???