1st high rise fires are truly scary and exhausting. Training is essential for a an acceptable outcome. But Murphy’s Law seems to take effect in such cases. Be prepared for anything. God bless. Stay safe
is THAT what comes out of Ron Jeremy?? I'm NO fan of asbestos...but, it has been said that if same were used in the WTC-it may have held up a bit longer
I used to manage 12 high rise buildings for a large petrochemical company. I had some interesting experiences. Once a month, on Saturday mornings I was manager on duty. We had a lot of construction ongoing, so the position was necessary. Anyway, we had a new security guard at one building that had been improperly trained. He had a mini fire alarm panel at the desk and was told if any of the lights come on, call the chief engineer. The one red light came on and the guard called the engineer. The panel read:Fire in Penthouse suite. The engineer told the guard to check it out. So, the guard goes to the top floor and meets a semi panicked secretary. He told her not to worry about it and he returned to the first floor and he saw the fire truck arrive. He then did the right thing by calling the alarm over the radio. Luckily, I was two minutes away. The firefighters were still on the first floor. I took them to the fire panel room and gave them a notebook with pass keys, maps and diagrams. I also gave them directions to the penthouse. At this point it is important to mention that this truck was sent out with no captain, so the senior firefighter was in charge. The firefighters got lost twice and I was forced to take them upstairs (a violation of procedure). As we got to the roof the room was blazing. The room contained the elevator machinery and we had just ridden in an elevator. As we saw the flames, the senior firefighter asked:"What do we do now?" I gave him a look and told him:"You might want to start by putting out the fire!!" I took the stairs to get back to the first floor. Monday morning, my boss, the regional coordinator, asked me what happened. I told her and told her about the breakdown in training. I told her that I had scheduled a training class that morning to deal with this. Just then the phone rang. It was the training supervisor wondering why a sudden training class had been scheduled. I told him just to get over there and I would explain. My boss told me that she had received a call from the CEO because the secretary on Saturday morning was the secretary of an executive vice president and she got worried when she saw firefighters running with hose packs and she wondered why the elevators were shut down.
"They keep building these Death Traps higher and higher, when they KNOW we can't fight a fire above the Seventh Floor." Saw that movie in Atlantic City, with my late parents-back in 1974. And, THEN we had the WTC inferno...starring Bin Laden.
@@JillC2 true But at least im not a native speaker of english and am dyslexic and am under educated. Thus a person who claims to hold a professional career as a contractor, yet has the spelling capability of a child cannot possibly be telling the truth about his occupation And i made only one mistake, and a small one at that plus im not even a grown up......
A smoke proof tower is, I presume, a positive pressure staircase i.e one that is above atmospheric pressure. Fine until the fans fail and as long as it isn't the only means of escape which it usually is with pressurised stairwells. Great in principle but Murphy's Law always applies.
Also includes non pressurised towers with lobbies to the stair and a lobby smoke shaft (some naturally venting, others powered extract) opened on the fire floor lobby
Certainly a jet going 450mph can remove some insulation and the way the world trade centers were built was very unique having an exoskeleton, which all contributed to its collapses. I wonder if Bin Laden actually knew the construction weakness to these structures? Most any other building wouldn't of pancaked down because of the girder type framework.
But your telling me a plane that’s skin is a little thicker than a beer can in most places.... and get totally destroyed when they get hit by a bird or goose.....WENT TOTALLY THROUGH STEEL COLUMNS AND BEAMS AND CONCRETE AMOUNTING TO FEET THICK?... I’m not buying it for one min.. because I was an Ironworker and I’ve seen construction of high rises.
@@tjlovesrachel Bin Laden was a smart engineer. The laws of momentum prove you wrong. Also, even if the plane didn't take out all those columns-the burning fuel severely weakened them.
thaddeus buttmunch laws of momentum.... okay with out getting too technical.... put it this way that’s like trying to shoot a razor blade through a brick wall...and I’ll believe the firefighters that were there and witnessed what was goin on the buildings.... and let’s not begin to mention how their testimony’s were all suppressed or some how not found.... so much shady shit surrounding 9/11..
@@tjlovesrachel OK. So-it's all a "Conspiracy." Do you honestly think that dozens of operatives could have put thermite-or Monroe-effect charges-on the girders, without being detected? And nobody can deny that two planes with hijackers aboard hit the two towers. Were the planes autonomously steered there (and a third one into the Pentagon?) I will allow that George "Dubya" Bush benefitted politically from 9/11. It got him reelected-even as the Iraq War was going badly. It also got Obama reelected in 2012 (because he whacked Bin Laden.) I hope the Freedom Tower is better-designed.
How no one over the span of decades not correct the obvious voice-over blooper at 7:06 where he says, “A smoke-proof towel...” as opposed to “tower”? Even the description says towel. Wow.
Sprinkler systems are Very effective in containing fires in high rise buildings. Hotels with them installed have rarely had a fire fatality (and many are multistory.) YES-the WTC was an exception. But those were jet airplanes-slammed into the structures at Mach One-loaded with thousands of gallons of fuel. Also-the stairways, elevators shafts and water pipes for the sprinklers-were ALL in the center of the buildings. They should have been at the four corners. I'm not against building up to Fifty stories. In cities like Manhattan, it is a necessity. Over 100 stories is just Ridiculous, however.
@ 5:25 everybody knows burning tables, chairs & drapery is enough to weaken steel. Jet fuel is all a blacksmith ever needs. NASA is the greatest thing on Earth.
Yh. The cladding on the building was very suspect and was supposedly known before the fitting. Across the UK cladding on buildings is being reviewed now they have been identified as unsafe/questionable/really suspect to say the least after grenfell
Common foundation for the entire WTC Complex. When WTC 1 and WTC 2 Collapsed, the entire basement and foundation was heavily damaged. The WTC Complex was also build on reclaimed land and water table was high. I remember seeing 9/11 unfold and worrying the outer foundation wall collapsing and flooding occuring and flooding both the PATH and NYC Subway.
