When Don Revie fell out with the FA after leaving the England job the papers and ex players with a grudge against Revie accused him of bribery. If Revie really was a match fixer why was it always Leeds getting cheated in major finals like this time and the 1975 European Cup final?
I'm from Greece, and I have to say that Greek referees were always like this. And they still are. Maybe not that much, since they will give a penalty if it is clear, but they might give advantages without there being any, or they might not give a foul or a card. It's just annoying. Good teams are left outside of whole leagues because of this.
A referee is a man with friendships and hostilities like anyone else; who said that he didn't feel hostility towards English people like I can feel them towards the French ?Juventus is strong but how many referees in Italy have been compelled by the Agnelli family to satisfy Juventus and dissatisfy other teams?The Greek fans were discontented with him because of his dubious performances in the Greek championship and as they loved the better way of playing of Leeds they complained that leeds lost
This is blatant and horrible! At one point, the ref looks downwards in guilty embarrassment, if it's not just clever editing to make him look bad. From what i've seen, it STINKS. I think Leeds got cheated in 75 final too.
Eddie Gray's younger brother Frank played for Leeds that night not Eddie himself.If Leeds had bribed the ref and won wouldn't the Italian media reaction have been the same as the English reaction.
for example in my championship in Italy, I would have never whistled penatlies for Juventus unless they were blinding like the sun in the summer; the ones who fall too easily on the pitch would have had a really uneasy life with me, not only because players of Juventus or Inter, but also the same ones of AC MiLAN, because the teams which have technical means don't need helps and the finals in general should not be ruined by the penalties; you have to win only by action and beautiful ones; this
the numerous goals taken us away in the finals . fortunately all won apart from the one in Istanbul when we were 3-0 and with the fourth goals we would have never been reached by Liverpool; the only thing , what is not accepted is the fact that a style of doing football (catenaccIO, that's to say playing all behind after a decisive goal) was a way of playing never accepted in N.ern europe, because it was a winner style; now that has become comfortable to pass in 2011 with the "spurs" in Milan
I have no idea why this MEP decided to start a petition to get the result altered some 35yrs after it happened. It is just like the single Euro currency POINTLESS AND FUTILE.
The real crime against sport was committed, when the cup of winners' cup was abolished preventing many european teams from arising in the stardom of football: preventing and hampering new realities from emerging from namelessness, where they lived before undertaking the enterprise of winning the national cup or only the one of reaching or achieving the final fo national cup against the national champions; how many teams came out from the Cup of winner's cup ; dynamo kiev, werder, parma, psg
We WERE cHAMPIONS IN 1994 AND THE SAME gUARDIOLA ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE FINAL; WE HAD MEDIA TYCOON bERLUSONI AT RULE AND AS pRESIUDENT; WE WERE EXPERIENCING A MOMENT OF DIFFICULTIES IN CHAMPIONSHIP AND IN cHAMPIONS BUT WE CRUSHED sALZBURG WITH 3-0.bUT THE AUSTRIAN GOALKEEPER PLAYED THE ACTOR AS IF HE HAD BEEN KILLED AND WE LOST THE POINTS BUT KEPT THE VICTORY WITHOUT GAINING GROUND IN OUR GROUP AND WE RISKED OF BEING ELIMINATED FOR THE PLAY STAGED BY A GOALKEEPER WHO DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
not on that day; because a referee is a man and can commit many mistakes; he has his feelings and if he didn't like this team or also simply english teams, how could you say he wasn't fond of british country; personally if I had been a referee of the international cups, despite my admiration for M.United, Barcelona etc, I would have always whistled against them and I would have helped the adversaries of the giants of , especially at the first roundsthe weakest teams, the teams nobody knows; and
@Evenson71 you asked yourself why they didn't do it? Not only from fear of the Germans tha would have laughed about this initiatives. But because the Cup of winners Cup has been abolished. Whereas they feel the illusion of winning at last the Champions league, which will be never abolished. So they would have stolen out of the pitch what they had not managed to do on pitch. Our goalkeeper saved everything,their spits too but they could not accept it and so they invented this fabulous story.
I know all of them apart from Marsh, but none of them has dragged you again on the top of the world and many of them didn't play with Leeds or were boirn many years after the match you lost.
the match -fivxing maybe is now more than in 2006; then there was just a problem; Juventus that was fairly relegated because it compelled all the referees to bow the head;who refereed against juventus was excluded; but there were not any bettings like nowadays or 1979; however the worst games are the ones in which the teams and the players have realized they have no more aims or objectives to achieve for the season; the root of match sales is there.
wE were the Milan also in Autumn 1994 but he referee craciunescu, nullified two goals and kept us in anxiety in the last match of the group against the Austrians till the last second; tell me did we buy the referees also then? With Berlusconi who had always the money ? I think that many charges of doping , bribery etc must be proven before opening mouth. The work of many players is spotted only through lies; what matters is the game on the pitch and there we won; you played very well but we won
@Evenson71 At least a British fan with whom I can agree. I can say about this final that we simply won through catenaccio. It was not the fairest style to play football I can agree. However that Milan played that style of football. too. They didn't accept this style of play , they were lsing the mtach and they turned out to kick our goalkeeper Vecchi too. Besides to prove all the lies they said, Hunter was not the single one to be sent off the field; Sogliano too was ousted from the pitch but
Mate stop chatting shit you simply won through the referee. Your goal should of never stood as it was never a foul and we could of easily had 3 penalties
@Evenson71 I underline Sogliano was deservedly sent off the field for kicking the Leeds player on the back or what else. But is is false what some newpapers from your country stated that Sogliano was not sent off the field. Already from this lie should arise the fact and the doubt of Leeds' lies and of the lies of this man. We won in a bad style of game but we din'tbuy anything.If they were coherent they would have tried such a battle also against Bayern Mümich for the finale of 1975 but have
Who told you that dACOUT HAD THE COURAGE TO EXPRESS SOMeTHING THAT HAD BEEN OFFICIALLY HUSHED UP BY THE SOCIETY? MILAN NEITHER ON 16TH May 1973 nor on that day of novmber deployed a feeble side. Leeds was just lucky that Shevchenko missed the penalty; otherwise from the equalization of Milan, for Leeds there was no story; just defense in the evening of Milan; apart from 1-0 not a single reaction by Leeds. Shevchenko equalized and LEEDS JUST UNDERWENT mILAN'S GAME.
7) did you remember that your olivier dacourt said in 1999-2000 said in your websiste; let's hope that they (Milan) don't engage too much against us because they have already qualified. Is that English fair play???? Or sport Loyalty? (9) thew Greek who whstled Michas did it because he had politically supported surely the teams of Athens (9) Yes I forgot about World cup for teams that your historical rivals of Man United have won as an English team the cup I am mentioning. Neither thE lIVERPOOL
@JACKANDJAY10 as Milan had already qualified , he hoped that Milan gave up playing so that Leeds could qualify at the place of Barcelona and Dacouirt played with Leeds; thanks the post of Shevchenko on the penaltyother wise it would have finished 2-1 like in Salonikki despitre all the bullshits you said even if you would not have won in any case or should I remind that Valencia crushed you 3-0 also; the match of Valencia was bought by the Spanish who are Latinos? Please change museum of lies
@BillDFC referees we had good players in 1970s and we were also robbed in 1963 against Santos but in the end we managed to achieve the Intercontinental Cup we deserved in 1969 against Argentinians. the english teams manged to win the Intercontinental only in 1999 thanks to Manchester. Before no single team from your Island won a World cup for clubs . It means something! Or Am i always crazy only becauseI am Italian!!?? Flamengo-lIVERPOOL=3-0, Estudiantes laPlata -Manchester=1-0,1-1 against
THEM IN 1945 , 1918 (IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER WON WITHOUT aMericans and WW2 would have never burst without a real victory in 1918); as you are used to make confusion between a competition of blood and one of sport, just tell me; could Michas love you after England sent the soldiers in 1944 to meeddle into Greek affairs agaiunst the communists? Could Michas love you after the flight of the glorious Commonwealth troops from Greece and Creta in 1941? If you reasoned with the brain
Euro currency would be useless for you, because you commit the mistake of considering yourselves the core of the world; wake up boy; english empire has dispperead long ago; You need the world, like the world may need you; we cannot stay isolated any more; and the currency with such different cultures is the only everyday life reality that can join so different populations.
@JACKANDJAY1 So before saying shit country to other fatherlands, I remind you that english fans are the embodiment of bad spirit in the stadium; if we want to examine all finals why don't overthrow the finals won by the English teams? Where is your coherence. (1) You mingle war and leisure-war where everyone should be friend (2) Your fans are always involved in struggles everywhere, so the presumed civilization achieved by the English after Heysel (YOu were the only nation excluded
Both referees where suspect, and to be honest matey what do you know about English football, Jack shite by the sounds of it and it’s not the first time this has happened, the same thing happed to Nottingham Forest in 1984 ..... Poms indeed 👎
@@markmeade2937 The only world cup you've ever won was thanks to a non goal and you have the hypocracy to talk about how other teams in other countries get advantages from refs. P.L.E.A.S.E.
@@Scotitalic Typical, I don’t need to listen to an anti English person..... Live in your bubble, and I’ll live in reality. Bubbles burst on the end, remember that
@@markmeade2937 Reality?? You wouldn't even know what reality is if it slapped you in the face. You get some good decisions and some bad ones, in the end if a team is good enough they will win. Of course there are sometimes blatant and outrageous cases where refereeing errors decide the outcome of a match, but in this game this didn't occur. There were only some very dubious penalty calls by Leeds followed in the end by their players swinging punches and constantly whinging to the referee because they couldn't accept the outcome of the match and he wasn't pleasing their ridiculous requests to save them from defeat. As I said, saw loses and whinging poms.
@@Scotitalic So your telling me that match fixing has not happened, mate I live in reality, I get up at 4.25 in the morning, shower and off to work, I know what reality is at 54 years old. I’m not a 25year old snowflake who lives with his head up his arse
repeat for the hundredth time that you like make confusion between the blood of battlefield and the blood of pitch; Michas hated English because in 1941 you escaped like hares from Greece to take shelter in Africa while the German tanks & our tuna's tanks kicked you out of Greece, leaving the Greek people under the heel of the German and Italian Rule. Do you like politics? Maybe now you understand why Michas hated you so much, as you say you won the war (with american money,tanks &multitudes).
I gave you an interpretation of your mad plots and of your confused ideas about huistory and sports that should never be linked but you linked them far worse than China or former East Germany. I forgot 6) As we buy referees why did we win just the intercontinental cup1969 and not also the World cup against santos when we were physically illtreated by The Brazilians; we had won 4-2 in Milan and we were winning 2-0 there too but the referee Brozzi from Argentina made win the Brazilians ???
Compare and contrast this match to 1994 Champions League final when Milan thumped Barcelona 4-0 with style. Capello's team were the best team representing the best league in the world. Unlike the 74 team Capello's team lifted the European Cup to heroic cheers not booing and jeering.
I start admitting instead some improvements in you; but you carry on defending a truth which is just an English truth 1)the Mep is laburist; political enemy of Berlusoconi so Milan's bribery is Corbett's invention; 2) the repetition of the game was denied already then; so it mean there was not any corruption but in your minds. (3) I told you; to BRIBE in such an important gAME AND WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT REFEREE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BY mILAN such a SUM of MONEY THEY COULD NOT AFFORD; CLEAR ?
If you really had loved Leeds instead of listening to the bullshits of a man , who has stolen your money, like the italian representatives, sitting in the European Parliament, you would have handed over a petition to UEFA to rebuild Cup of Winner's Cup; 1) You speak badly about italian football but you have the same vices; as soon as there is one player falling down soon penalty even if he has fallen alone like a little girl (2) You speak badly of Catenaccio when Tottenham wins at S.Siro with
The game that needs investigation is the 1975 final against Bayern. This 1973 Milan side were an ageing team past their peak: Leeds were in their prime at that time, if they had played well that night they could have beaten Milan giving them a two goal start.
UEFA conducted an investigation on the officiating of this match and found that the Greek referee had been bribed by AC Milan and was subsequently banned for life from refereeing. Milan bought the referee therefore buying victory and the Cup Winners Cup in an unsporting and ungentlemanly manner. No wonder Leeds were furious but then again had Billy Bremner,Johnny Giles,Eddie Gray,and Allen Clarke been fit to play Leeds would have easily beaten Milan. Regardless of buying the referee.
The gifted Leeds team of the seventies were bad losers and ALWAYS "livid" when they lost: especially in games to teams they SHOULD have CRUSHED - such as Sunderland 1973, WBA at home in a title decider, Bayern in 1975, Chelsea in the 1970 replay, etc, etc, etc. ! ! ! The old timers and past their peak old boys of that 1973 AC Milan team is just another example.
The Russians and the match at Warsaw against the Legia of Deyna who also scored us. We didn't purchase anything we didn't need it. We had a practical and effective game not beautiful but effective. And Chiarugi was was the top scorer of the competition; that's the only data which matter; an investigation caoming from ther defeated one cannot be serioulsy taken into consideration don't you agree? 3) why didn't your MEP Corbett convInce the UEFA TO REORGANIZE CUP OF WINNEr'S CUP TO ALLOW
Just tell me why 2) why did you MEP decidethe petition against Milan and why did he not propose it against Bayenr Münich? Because HE Knew that Milan belonged to berlusconi his adversary in pOLICITIS (HE IS A LABURIST) AND HE ALSO KNEW that with Bayern Münich, after such a petition against paris 1975no english team would ever win any finals against Germans . Your MEP was an incoherent that created the stories only against italian teams and not against the german ones
and what I have said till now is still nothing; in my opinion this investigation was ably and succesfully led and forged by English sport leaders to spot and to stain the victory of the others. You English must learn to lose. Because if someone engages really onself against you you lose easily.The investigation might have been led by UEFA English members; but nobody had the courage to say that.The truth is that you lost on the football pitch and you must bow the head and accept it
so fi you want to be patriotic ok, as a british I would have done too but without signing any shitty petition; if all the fans of runners-up teams in UEFA competiitions had behaved so , I don't think the British teams winners in the cups would have accepted it willingly. So it turned badly for the english teams pity; also Milan udner Berlusconi was deprived of a heap of goals in the cups; in Madrid 1989 , in Bremen 1989, also in Belgrade despite the fog 1988, in the final of Istanbul;
and outside, comes out from English mouths, especially from a man that was going to lose his seat at European parliament and that should be a teaching father to his countrymen in the sense of leaving British Isolation to enter euro, instead he was there only to suck the incomes and to renew his terms; Italy too is full of this politicians; if he had been coherent, he would have asked to take the cup form Bayern trophies but he didn't do it, because with the germans you neither to do such things
is a rule which is unwritten and that should remain; unwritten, but a referee with consciouness, should leave play the people and teaching them that through slyness the result cannot be achieved in such an important occasion: that should be learnt by the players.That we didn'0t offer a great show I can agree, that AC mILAN (MY TEAM) IS LUCKY I can still agree but don't tell me we bought anything because this rumor, with all respect for your country, which is one of the most important in Europe
@LiQuidMetamorphosis catenaccio and you didn't accept it. We won with a poor style of football but We didn't pay anything. And we don'0t give up any trophies. Dead rather giving up what we won after such a battle on the football pitch: And that the Greek celebrated you it is not such a worthwhile piece of news. The corrupted referee Michas is only a British invention. This story comes only from Birtish mouths so it is not an objective truth so quit up with this story.
@LiQuidMetamorphosis We have plenty of trophies . What does it mean? maybe iut's only a case but youy paid attention to a cup which was abolished. So you wanted to steal to us something you deservedly lost on the football pitch and that you could ghave won back through a MEP that like all MEPS steals the income sitting in Strasburg without doing anything and above all a Cup that doesn't exist anymore. It stinks a bit.
@BillDFC you spoke only because we generously made you win in the return mtach and we crushed up also in UEFA CUP in 1970-71 the only cup we din't win; 3-0 =0-2 We let you win as we were risking to do on last Tuesday evening against the gunners. Four matches two qualifications which marked pour superiority on Dundee. We didn't need any referees. Who invented the lies you told? Yourself? Who lost always states that the winner bought the match please let's finish with these foolish stories.
We used money only to have good players in our teams; not to corrupt; With your heads you have remained to the times of Henry VIII, when maybe you really had the best teams.INthe 70ies if we bought our players it was already an achievement. Who has so much money to buy the games as you state (but you English were a people of traders so you must have bought many more cups than the ones you attribute to us) didn't run the risk to melt away as it happened in 1986 when Berlusconi saved us.
@JACKANDJAY10 Our money was used only to buy good players not to corrupt as you crazy and foolish english truths state, from Rivera and Liedholm , who won the Championship where no famous trainer had the skill to win (except Capello and that proves that you English and your national team with such a ttrainer a re really a desperate case!!)to Ibrahimovic anbd Robinho. We used the money only for that. Neither Juventus I always personally disliked made what you stated. Much pressure on refs true
@davidleigh65 why didnt you make the petition against Bayern!!??? Neither tried. Germany causes fears doesn't it??!! Italian federation doesn't fright anyone but your cORBETT NEITHER TRIED to defend the team of 1975 (the sam esubstantially of two years before) against Bayern, but against Berlusconi (Corbett is a laburist or a communist all clear!!)and his team Yes; whereas also the Germans had had their scandal in 2005 with Hoyzer; it smells of deep incoherence, only hatred towards italians
@MySilverr so instead of attacking Milan, why didn't you attack Bayern with the same energy??? I explain that to you. It is called simply prejudice, If you had ever tried to do such a shitty and foolish petition against the final of 1975, you would have found the entire Bavaria emigrating under the siege of Leeds United and neither the players nor the leaders of the team would have come out alive with all those Germans under the window of Leeds United offices. With all those angry Germans
@BillDFC the colonies, and that you need and Italian trainer to rise up with the national teams, it means that we are superior despite this temporary crisis of italian teams but you willnever admit it. But it doesn't matter. iN iSTANBUL MiLAN MIGHT HAVE FINISHED 4-0 the first half but a fourth goal was misteriously nuyllified. Maybe you english have some explanation but this time the referee was clean differently from Michas. The reckoning don't come this time??? We never had money to bribe
@JACKANDJAY1 from violence of the own fans). Also the scots and the welsh have remained within the European competitions while you were out. It must mean something don't you agree? In talk you with facts not with nationalism.The truth??? The english truth you mean. I imagine how much important is the english truth nowadays. You didn't partake European Union because Germany and France would have made with you what they mean to do with us now, they would have made your life impossible.
pasted to the chairs to steal the money, of the english and europeans who work hard. Learn to use your heads, English friends.if you really love football create a page. that can be shown to UEFA and where it is proven that soccer audience turns down the soccer elite wanted and wished by some teams chairmen; if it is said by a stubbon fan of Milan you can believe me
@BillDFC Milan-Estudiantes=3-0=1-2. They didn't accept the defeat as you Britons but the Cup was ours and well obtained and deserved. And in 2005 what happened to liverpool ? Did they win they world cup?? It doesn't seem to me.
Rather I gainsay! My team didn't have the money then to bribe but just for paying the own players.We have the money now but we have never bribed and we don't need to bribe; stop insulting my team please; I can accept that my team offered a bad show and style of football but Bribery doesn't belong to us; learn from other countries; only you english made these stories; Gwermans and french have seen calciopoli lilke you but if the lose against us they lose and stay silent Learn from them plaese
My goodness you do seem to have a bee in your little bonnet about this one don't you. Methinks the man doth protest too much. ( it's a paraphrase of Shakespeare in case you didn't get it. Shakespeare - another fine product of these isles, just like the Leeds of the 70s)
because he was afraid of their reaction. The truth the only one valuable is that You were not keen on catenaccio and when you found a closed team you could not pass and you reacted in a violent way OR WITH LIES because you could not win like the spoilt children. You could not practise catenaccio and on the field so you invented that the other bought the games, whereas at that time we neither had money to do it. We had won all the matches except a single one in Milan against
@LiQuidMetamorphosis Why din't you try with Bayern Münich with 1975 final? Because Bayern would have denounced you in front of UEFA courts and Champions league will be never abolished like cup of winners' cup. We have won cup of winners cup deservedly and it is not a case that the following year we came back in final; we were less lucky. I can accept that we were lucky in 1973 through the catenaccio that you english are learning now with Tottenham at S.Siro. The truth is that you lost against
@BillDFC We didn't dpo anything of what you said; the truth is that you were crushed 5-1 and the Ipswich 0-3 and the latter also relegated the following year; I know that because English people told me that. So before inventing lies we must pay attention. I want to see whether to a deepened exam all the matches in Europe, which were won by English teams were so clean and crystal as you state.I strong feel my doubts. To corrupt you must have money, but the only the wealthy ones were you Briton
@JACKANDJAY10 About the spirit you bring in the stadiumS, when you liken 1918 &1945 to England -Germany=4-2 (for Gods' sake last year Justice was done but also the Germans won thrice and you only one,BUT you are foolishly considered as the motherland of football!) the healthy blood of football pitch with the irretrievable blood of the battlefields, I want to remind you that without America that deservedly punished you in 1783 and in 1815 YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER WON THE WARS
@JACKANDJAY10 So when the "truth" (I can imagine which "truth" is yours, the one of this subspecies of politician who stole your money sitting lazily in Eurpean pArliament while you become hunchback at work)comes only from the mouths of same country, it has the same valour of the things we produce in the w.c. Boys I thought English were more intelligent and didn't believe the politicians, as we ( and this italian flaw is something I can admit) still go on to do, as we have no other choice
if Catenaccio is used by Tottenham is fine to pass to the following round, if it is used by Milan to win a Cup , which is perfectly deserved despite the bullshits you heard and said: sign a petition to come back to the Cup of Winner's Cup which will help new teams to arise, instead of signing the petition of one, that is politically opposite to berlusconi, but who like him wants to keep his chair. if you really love football sign petitions for new cups not the petitions of those, who keep
so if catenaccio done by british in 2011 by Tottenham is fine , why should it not have been fine in 1973? The cup which was abolished and slowly created with this climate a football of élite deleting the football of province (a great rival for the giants), is the real crime, because little teams with a football restricted to few teams cannot be able to rise out anymore
1=) Maybe point ten is too high I neglected some number in the list, but the topics from mine are too many; If I don't remember badly you too had you calciopoli that saw involved a famous goalkeeper but everything was hushed up because the english players and sportsmen are the cleaniest in the world; only the other sportsmen are filthy- Please use your heads instead of listening the lies of your Meps that haven't brought you into European Union but who are enjoying their incomes on the mainland
You English like making mess between the wars ( you won with a greater foreign support, that's to say the AMERICAN WHO DEFEATED YOU IN 1783 AND IN 1813,althoug you don't like hearing these facts) and leisures; carry on doing it but many of your victories don't belong to you otherwise why did your national football team win only anything in 1966 and in some far olympic football games? . So if you win but you escaped from greece why could Michas not be angry for the sufferings of his childhood?
@Evenson71 for themselves and for all those teams who could not win only because it was abolished. Not the foolish petition they proposed based only on the bullshits they invented.They wanted to obtain through the overbearance what had escaped from them from the point of view of the football pitch and the play (their inferiority in game) and from the reality (an unjust but unfortunately real) with the stupid decision of abolisheing cup of winners cup which would have helped new teams to arise
@Evenson71 Have you ever asked yourself whay they attacked Milan instead of Bayern? Because Cup of winners' cup has been abolished. Champions League will never be abolished. So they wanted to steal to milan something they will never obtain against anybody. Nice slyness don't you agree, do you? Besides Germans would have crushed them politically and legally in front of Uefa. If they had owned some influence in european football , they would have made a serious petition to reorganize that cup
@JACKANDJAY10 The proofs come from the country which was directly involved in the matches as defeated part; when one loses has always pretexts to offer, so tell me which valour may have your prooofs, when your teams lose the matches in Europe the other ones always buy, let's say the contrary; the truth is that you never accepted catenaccio as a a game; Leeds lost against us because of catenaccio, and the proofs of "purchase" are shitty proofs coming only from England.Wich value do they have?
instead of using something else I don't quote, Michas was surely born at the age of war and must have remembered his childhood when by the Germans compelled his family to flight with their protectors: the British soldiers escaping from Germans; he had an experience of life like every man and when he underwent the German occupation as a child cursed the English who had fled . after as aman of sport he made pay this bitter experience to the first english team he met on the pitch
1) first of all the fact that these news come from english mouths, that's to say the country whose team lost the match, brings about that the news are empty of whatever meaning and seriousness. We didn't buy anything because the wealthy milan (that I can recognize to you) is the present milan which is starting cutting the prizes of players' incomes; we just buy the serious players to win not referees; Gray was on the field so you are wrong and we too had a professional player who wasn't there
Corruption in Greek Football. Go back two seasons to 1970-71 and ask Everton, most especially Joe Royle, who was told by a Panathinaikos player that were not going to go through. This was in the book Football Babylon published in the mid 1990s.
Schnellinger who had the balls to score against Italy in Mexico city in Italy-Germany 1970 was absent in Greece. Otherwise not a single english would have overcome the Milan half of pitch. Schnellinger wasd soemone whereas your players were famous just in Europe
we were overruning the team of Pelè , we were crushing them 4-2 and 2-0 in brazil. It was the world cup and we lost it because Brozzi was pressed to make us lose the game. he was paid, bribed and he admitted it when the match was past many years thereafter
@BillDFC The only money we used was to buy good players; what English never had, apart from Charlton and Best. I may add Scholes and Rooney. Also ASrsenal that I like very much is declining because it is using the same italian methods; not to believe in the english players, in the own guys.You are accusing us of corruption but you are dragging your football in the same mud; if we think that a strong team like the gunners have only one English boy in their ranks and besides he too comes from
@JACKANDJAY10 By the way as the winner goes back to final and we went back to final despite the defeat against Magdeburg, we contributed to create with an own goal (but the rest was their stuff we must admit it), where was the Leeds in the final of 1974; help me to remember because I sought it out in the chronicles of football but I didn't manage to find the whites. in order not to forget something as we are always the corrupt ones, you never you clean like the doves, I remember that Dacourt
in continuously likening the wars of the just finished century (with the assumed victory of britain whereas generally nobody wins a war) with the victories of 1966 (your only one) and the last one of September 2001 in Münich against Germans; confusion between a things that splits and a thing that should unify does it seem to you as a good one? Many english fans do that.
@SuperKellysheroes who strikes with the sword....cough cough I am sorry, who strikes with the post and Hunts with the posts (1966)it's the same who will die of the post (2010). Now you are authorized nto win again the world championship provided that you manage to do it aND WHETHER AN ITALIAN TRAINER can manage to fix into your blockheads how to win it
1) Michas is a man like other ones on this planet; he has undergone the German occupation during the second world war; but who has allowed the Germans to enter with the italians into the Greece; your defeat and chasing from southern Europe 2) a man of sport can remember the pains of his childhood 3) a man of sport can make pay dearly to the English players what he had suffered during the war 4) I have formulated this theory of his hostility to Britain being helped by your english obstinacy
I'm not a Leeds fan and have never been on their website so I have no idea what Olivier Dacourt said. If he said it its his own opinion and not necessarily the opinion of Leeds United. Did Milan field a weakened side that night or go easy on Leeds if so how was that fair play on Milan's part? Did Michas care about Panathinikos or Olympiakos or AEK Athens whilst AC Milan were lining his pockets with cash? Were Manchester United or Liverpool demoted and deducted 30 points due to corruption?
The more the cups , The more the likelihood for all the teams to win; now a much football, three days of European cups and the level of football has somewhat lowered to be generous, and we lost all a Cup, who won it and who lost it
Milan's bribery is a topic of yours; You invented the shame of bribery and you cast it on C mILAN TO STAIN A VICTORY YOU THOUGHT easy FOR YOU but that you could not achieve it . I have never heard about adversaries of Milan that after a defeat in the sixties of or in these seventies talked about Milan's bribery, which comes just from Leeds. It means something. doesn't it? that you are telling just a heap of shitty lies, invented by a kind of person that works with lies; a politician.
Schnellinger was a great player but had Bremner and Giles played that night they wouldn't have given Schnellinger a sniff of the ball. Sir Bobby Moore,Sir Bobby Charlton,George Best,Gordon Banks,Rodney Marsh,Gary Lineker,John Barnes,David Beckham,Wayne Rooney all world-class British players well known around the world.
Rodney Marsh not so much among the greats which include John Charles, Kenny Dalglish, Ryan Giggs, Tom Finney, Duncan Edwards, Stanley Matthews, Alan Shearer, Pat Jennings, Paul Scholes, Gareth Bale, Jimmy Greaves, Denis Law...
Considering UEFA is formed by football associations across Europe. It would be hugely doubtful that the investigation would've been entirely English led. Trust me having seen England and English clubs lose many times in major competitions(espescially on penalties) I'm used to losing. Watch the match again Leeds had three blatant penalty decisions turned down why because the ref had been bribed by Milan. I've never seen a team win a major trophy and been booed so vociferously.
ENGLAND NATIONAL TEAM : more than 40 years without playing any final of a WORLD CUP or a EUROCUP ! why ? They are not fair play !They can't accept their losses !
The same happened against Stuttgart in 1992-93. It is true that the Germans had fielded an inelegible player, but the fact that match was repeated [even if in that case they right were but they were not right absolutely in the case of this final] IS A TYPICAL VICE ( NOT VERY SERIOUS) OF LEEDS TO climb onto the mirrors; it is a way of saying we have in Italian to say that one tries to be right anyway, even if it isn't. however after eliminating Stuttgart in 1992-93 they were eliminated by Glasgow Rangers, that should have played that edition oF the cup of winners cup, that they had won the year before. the BRITISH challenge was put off from 1972-73 to 1992-93 but that match with the victory of the scots proves that they would not have won anyway. mAYBE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE REACHED EVEN THE FINAL OF tHESSALONIKI.
you have to feel sorry for the great leeds team ofthe 70s..........stitched up in 73....................and then the same thing happened in the 75 final against bayern. thjink its true that the refs in these games didnt referee european games again!
