stonesinmyblood27 I agree that Slew is underrated, but unfortunately, just like poor Sham had the bad luck to be born in 1970, Seattle Slew had the bad luck to have won the Triple Crown in the same decade, the same century as Secretariat.
Debra Enderle At least Seattle Slew didn't have to contend with Secretariat head to head. He was able to make his own place in history as did Affirmed, a year later.
stonesinmyblood27 He's not underrated....and overlooked now....he's recognized in the top ten greatest horses of all time....very close to the top. He might have been underrated, a bit, then because no one could believe a horse could come along 4 years after Secretariat and win the Triple Crown....it had been 25 years before Secretariat broke through....so they thought it a bit fluky....at first. It was as if no horse was supposed to do it again that quickly....and so used that against Slew....unfairly. Slew was the real deal. He more than proved it!!!!
"Very underrated"? Hardly! Always on the list of the top 10 racehorses in history. And he was 100 times the producer that Secretariat was. That's what defines a great racehorse. One who can produce champions.
I appreciate the video. From what I have researched, Seattle Slew was special. He was like a sprinter runner, never quit. Started out fast, ended fast. He was an amazing horse. He was a true champion horse. The first to be undefeated when winning the Triple Crown. That was unheard of back then. Basically, he went on after the triple crown; still quietly winning races to end his career, finshed with quite a record of stakes wins. He had some enormously difficult challenges with decisions/people made who were involved to get over but overall he proved himself to be the among best of all time in U.S. history with no questions asked. He was a champion horse, Consider that all the odds were against him from day one on until he was retired. He also had to be the first winning Triple Crown champion to come after Big Red. At the time of Seattle Slew, my mind was still preoccupied with Big Red's story, but now, im glad to get to know about Slew now, 42 years later but I felt all along, there was greatness in Seattle Slew, never to be expected as I found out. But Slew had Big Red's genes in him, from Red's dad Bold Ruler and A.P. Indy, a decendent had both these horses in his lineage. Many current winning horses have their bloodlines..
Slew's best performance was the 1978 JCGC, when he dueled Affirmed into the ground in 1:09 and change and then missed by a nose to a fast-charging exceller. I called it a "pace sandwich" and it was a very profitable trip note.
According to The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top U.S Racehorses of the XX Century List" Seattle Slew (February 15, 1974 - May 7, 2002) is ranked in 9th. position. 14 victories, 2 seconds, no thirds in 17 starts and U.S.$ 1,208,726 earned. *10th. Triple Crown Winner * 1976 U.S. Champion 2 Year-old colt *1977 U.S. Champion 3 Year-old colt *1978 U.S. Horse of the Year *1984 Leasing sire in North America *1995 and 1996 North American leading broodmare *Inducted to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1981 *2002 NTRA "Moment of the Year" What an extraordinary racehorse!
@@gpipeline On December 31, 2021 died Seattle Slew´s trainer William H. "Billy" Turner Jr at age 81 due to a prostate cancer. He won 533 races, got 521 seconds and 528 thirds on 4,314 starts and earned $ 17,501,099 between 1976 and 2016. His best year was 1996: 37 wins, 30 seconds, 25 thirds and $ 976,219 earned. God bless him! We´ll always remember him!
The prancing by Slew was something to behold. Magnetic!!! The most complete race horse of all time. My absolute favorite horse of all time!!!!! He overcame adversity Great great horse!
Jon Woolsey...agree with everything you said. The "prancing" you're referring to was called his "War Dance". One of the greatest race horses of all-time and my personal favorite.
He might just be the best. He almost "washes out" before the race, gets a poor start, then has to muscle his way to the lead. All of that, and he still wins easily. I'm no expert, but I don't think Secretariat ever catches this horse in a match race.@@francescopronesti4515
I was there. He went off at 1 to 2. Paid 3.00. My favorite of all time. Loved watching him beat Affirmed in just 2/5ths of a second over Secretariat's world record in the Marlboro.
I would love to see a race between Slew Seabiscuit and Secretariat.....When they were 3 years old...Not only did they all have speed they all had Heart.....What a race that would be.....!!!! I love all three of them...
Secretariat would win hands down, his heart weighed 22 pounds, most thoroughbreds heart’s weighed 8 1/2 pounds 😳 he was a genetic freak. There will never be a horse so perfect for racing
R. I. P. Leroy Jolley (1937 - December 18, 2017) (10:06 to 11:16) who trained For the Moment in 103th. Kentucky Derby. He won 101th and 106th. Kentucky Derby with Foolish Pleasure and the filly Genuine Risk. Joley was inducted to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1987. Regards from Venezuela.
I remember when I was young Man (14) of age, my cousin was a trainer, he didn't have a TV, but we were listening to the race on the radio, he was a big fan of Seattle slew.
Good evening. Sir Sir (6:43) was an american horse bought by venezuelan breeder Luis Navas and ridden by venezuelan jockey Jesus Rodriguez (1944-1997) What a nostalgic moment thy nine years later! Greetings from Venezuela.
That war dance of The Slew was just magnificent. Couldn't take my eyes off off him. What a great athlete. The most complete thoroughbred ever.....on the track and as a sire!!! He had to overcome a very bad start in the Derby. Great horses do that and still win.
Good afternoon. I agree with you about Seattle Slew (February 15, 1974-May 7, 2002) In the Blood-Horse Magzine List of The Top 100 U.S. Racehorses of the 20th. Century, Seattle Slew is ranked 9th (#1 List is Man o´ War; #2 List is Secretariat; the first Triple Crown winner Sir Barton is ranked 49th) Respect pre-race footage and race itself, for me there is no differences. I enjoy a lot both of them every time a have the chance to watch a horse racing. because until my death, I will be a 100% thouroughbred racing fan.
Why isn't there a race named after Slew in the United States?There are races named after many horse's that were not even is Slew's class.One of the two greatest horse's I ever witnessed🐴💪💪💪And the other one was Secretariat💪💪💪
"I ride like I live.... no regrets" Jean Cruguet (March 8, 1939 - ) Retired jockey. Greetings from Venezuela. "Yo monto como vivo.... sin lamentos" Jean Cruguet (8 de Marzo 1939 - ) Jinete retirado. Saludos desde Venezuela.
funny how people label something as the greatest only because they witnessed it. Seattle slew is one of the greats but his Derby was not his greatest race.His best race was the 1978 Jockey gold cup. He lost that but it cemented his legacy.
JoJoGunn NO the arrogant pig would be you......Ms Chenery was QUITE arrogant, however, as well. As were the Wolfson's who owned Affirmed. They were the "elites" of racing, you see, so very special....in their own minds. Karen and Mickey loved loved Slew as their son. They were with him when he drew his last breath...with his head on Karen's lap. Was Ms. Chenery there for "her beloved Secretariat?" Hardly. She couldn't be bothered to even go see him as his time was nearing the end. How did he die??? The "doctor" loaded him on the back of a van....gave him the fatal shot....jumped out of the way so his falling body wouldn't hit him and the horse fell heavily in the narrow confines of the truck as he died. All alone in the back of a truck...that's how the great Secretariat died. They couldn't even allow him the dignity of dying in his own stall....that would have been too messy and hard to retrieve his body, so they put him in the back of the truck that would take him to his grave....so don't be coming on here saying the Taylor's were arrogant pigs. They lived with him night and day for the last two years of his life, never really leaving his side. The worshipped that horse. I saw it up close and personal; met them. Talked to them. You never met the Taylors and are "repeating" garbage that's filtered down over the years......Go ask Penney Chenery Tweedy, while she''s still alive, where she was when her"beloved" horse died???? And ask her why she craves the spotlight now as if she God's gift and could do no wrong!!! And did you miss the part that she had an affair with Secretariat's trainer throughout 1973 while he and she were both married to other people? Classy lady!!
As a 28 year old this was before my time, but as a horse owner being only 45 minutes from where the Taylor's family lived it's badass to see a horse of his Caliber come out of my county. So cool to go back in time and see such great races.
Totally agree with premise that Secretariat was somehow the better borse. He wasn't. He would have bad to kill Slew to get past him. Slew was the best horse ever.
@@TheJonRW Disagree, but that is okay. The top horses of all time are all pretty close in talent. Time does matter, though. Secretariat was just faster.
I put Seattle Slew only one step behind of great Secretariat. He will be one of the greatest horse in history. My favorite is ZENYATTA. No horse can ever do what she did.
Slew was a bonafide superstar race horse! One of the best ever and deserves recognition as such. Slew was undefeated through his Triple Crown victory!!
Dear Jim McKay....Slew broke slowly behind a wall of horses. He had to push and shove to get to his farorite position. He showed great courage and determination. His time has nothing to do with any particular Derby. It was about what transpired today and how the race unfolded. Slew was and is a fighter. Secretariat?? The jury is still out...years later on whether he was a fighter or not. Slew is just as great as Secretariat. Each race was/is different. One on one???? Secretariat would have had to kill Slew to get past him. Secretariat would have folded. Just my opinion. Since each race is different, we will never know.
Speed is all relative. To day, to year, to track, to field, and a hundred other variables. Mostly you'll find not-well-informed casuals jocking Secretariat's amazing times... which would be fine, as those are the amazing times he ran... then trying to extrapolate those times vs. e.g. Seattle Slew's times in the same races and confidently stating, as though it were historical fact, therefore Secretariat would have beaten Slew by X lengths, or (worse) saying Secretariat was "faster" than Slew. That's not fine. That's erroneous. Even though it might well be true. Because it might well not be. Secretariat was very fast. So was Seattle Slew. So was Forego. Etc. Fact is we don't know what time Secretariat would have run in the 77 Derby, nor do we know what Slew would have run in the 73 Derby. Nobody does, and anybody that says otherwise is lying. All we have are speculation, conjecture, and informed guesses. Everybody got favorites, that's fine. Both these horses are phenomenal thoroughbreds. There's just a lot more to it than "Secretariat ran a sub-2:00 Derby." Incredible achievement, to be sure. But a horse like Slew, speed demon with air to spare, is very dangerous in any race where there is no other speed to tire him out on the front, and so good even that's no guarantee. Witness Seattle Slew's monumental Jockey Club Gold Cup performance, suicidal fractions over the early furlongs of a mile and a half, killing off the early speed of Life's Hope, then turning back the awesome Affirmed, a fellow Triple Crown winner (saddle slip or no), then... finally... succumbing to the grossly underrated Exceller with the Shoe aboard, by all of a nose and never quitting. Took 3 horses to beat him that day (one of which was a Triple Crown winner, the other one of the top 100 thoroughbreds of the 20th century and a Hall of Famer). By a nose. Over 12f. Secretariat was a come-from-behind horse; without having some of his tank burned out early, Seattle Slew had the turn of foot to get so far out he wasn't going to be caught by any closer, I don't care if his name is Secretariat or Damascus or whoever. Does that mean he definitely would have won? No! Like I said, there are a lot of variables in a horse race. Maybe his jockey gives him a bad ride. Maybe he's not tip-top coming in. Maybe the track bias is against early speed that day, setting it up for the closer. Maybe Secretariat's connections enter Angle Light in the same race. Or any # of other things. Or maybe not! All we know for sure is what did happen. And what did happen makes us understand these 2 horses are 2 of the very best. More than that is impossible to say with any certainty. But we all have favorites for all kinds of reasons.
The only one in the modern era maybe (jury’s still out, of course, on American Pharoah and Justify), but War Admiral and Count Fleet were both very successful sires and broodmare sires, leading the national lists.
Sir Sir, un caballo estadounidense comprado en Keeneland por el criador e importador venezolano Luis Navas y montado por el jinete venezolano Jesús Rodríguez (1944-1997)¡Que nostalgia! ¡Ya se cumplieron cuarenta años de esa inolvidable carrera! Saludos desde Venezuela!
Gracias por compartir ese conocimiento no sabia esto. seattleslew es mi caballo favorito ademas en venezuela dejo su historia slewprince,slewboop,general slew,amjaad, burkaan, aqui eran puros aviones saludos amigo.
Seattle Slew fue comprado por apenas $17,500 en 1975 y produjo a sus propietarios $ 1,208.716!!! ¡Tremendo negocio para los esposos Karen y Mickey Taylor quienes según cuenta la historia, sabían muy poco del pedigree de los caballos de carrera cuando lo compraron! ¡Y eso sin contar con el dineral que les reportó después en la cría! Seattle Slew ganó 14 carreras en 17 salidas a la pista y curiosamente, murió el día que se cumplieron 25 años de su triunfo en el Derby: el 7 de Mayo de 2002, a la edad de 28 años (casi 90 en una persona) Saludos desde Puerto Ordaz, Estado Bolívar.
Sir Sir (6:43) an american horse bought in Keeneland by venezuelan breeder Luis Navas and ridden by venezuelan jockey Jesus Rodriguez (1944-1997) What a nostalgic moment! greetingrom Venezuela.
Always loved Seattle Slew, and he was a beast that wanted to win, and he could have had another couple seconds off his time toward the end, but he let up because he knew he had the race won. I believe by memory Slew ran it in 2:01, and Secretariat in 1:59. Slew also did a 1:59 time in another race with the exact same distance, maybe the Breeder's Cup or the Jockeys cup ? - not sure. Also Slew beat Affirmed 2 times, who was a triple crown winner. All I know is if Slew raced Secretariat in the Kentucky Derby or the Preakness, it would have been nose to nose at the finish line, "for sure." In the Belmont, I think Secretariat would take that race, with his stamina. These are the best 2 horses of all time, and my 2 favourites, and we're lucky they didn't race each other, as it may have spoiled each of their legacies. Not a good idea to compare horses of a different era.
If you put every Derby winner into a race together, and told me the day after that Seattle Slew won it, I wouldnt be surprised. At his best, Slew could run fast quarters on the front end, and still win easily. If you didnt wear the hell out of Slew early in a race, its goodnight.
"¿El Kentucky Derby? Aún no se ha creado un adjetivo capaz de describir su grandeza" José Gregorio Guillot, comentarista hípico y productor radial venezolano
Seattle Slew absolutely bullied his way to the lead coming around the first turn.......Freaking Amazing! The horse had flare personality charisma ,attitude and flat out "cocky" everything you hated about an arrogant athlete. The Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson and Ric flair of horses. Secretariat may be the "goat" but fell short of that Slew presence. As far as greatness Seattle slew was right there with him.
What Billy Turner said and what his owner said another clip about Slew's style reminded me of Zenyatta. John Shirreffs said they had to figure out how she wanted to be trained and what she was willing to do. Sounds like Slew was very much like that. For the Moment's trainer also said something that reminded me of Zenyatta. Somebody would have to be very lucky to beat Slew. Dale Romans said of Zenyatta's 2010 BCC that a horse would have to run the race of their life to beat her and that's what Blame's jockey said when he won by half a head.
Many people rank Secretariat as the best horse ever and in the same breath say he’d beat any other Derby winner. Of course, they’ll mention his Derby time and lengths of margin in the Belmont. I ruffle a lot of feathers when I say Big Red may be the best but I don’t think he’d beat them all. Remember, he lost his very next race after his Triple Crown quest to an unknown. I say this because horses race against each other on the track, not on paper. They don’t win by people comparing final times and saying ‘This one ran faster than that one, so we have our winner.” Ive never seen a thoroughbred read a DRF, or know what a final time is. What I do know is Seattle Slew, Citation, American Pharaoh, whichever past champion, would blast out of the starting gate and try to beat whatever they were running against, including Secretariat, they wouldn’t care. These ‘other’ champions were champions for a reason. To think Secretariat could beat them all by merely looking at a final time, well, to be nice, is just inane.
Slew broke slow, then pushed his way disdainfully to take catbird-seat second around the first turn, sauntered beside For the Moment down the backstretch, and simply waited for the frontrunner to tire before pulling away easily, coasting to the finish. Great to see the race, but I forgot how much Howard Cosell got on my nerves.
So is mine.i have his great grandson.hes full of character.he has slews bloodlines on the site side and on the dam side is Irish sport horse.he was very difficult to train though,a lot of people had given up on him.
Horse Racing : WHAT IN THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU ? A THOROUGHBRED BY THE NAME OF SEATTLE SLEW, CAPTURES THE TRIPLE CROWN IN 1977, AND YOU DON'T EVEN POST HIS VICTORY IN THE PREAKNESS HERE ON RU-vid ? WHAT KIND OF INDIVIDUAL ARE YOU, TO IGNORE SUCH A GLORIOUS SPORTING MOMENT AS THAT BEAUTIFUL VICTORY AT PIMLICO, 47 YEARS AGO ? WE RACING FANS, WANT TO RE - LIVE THAT MAGICAL MOMENT. SO I EXPECT FOR YOU TO POST THAT TIMELESS, CLASSIC HERE ON RU-vid AND I HOPE IT HAPPENS, VERY SOON.
McCay was one of the greats--during the 1980 Munich Olympics, when the Israeli team was taken hostage (and later killed) by terrorists, McCay was right there doing the live news updates for days. Yet when he died, after a more than 50 year career, he was hardly mentioned. That's what comes of dying on a weekend.
+Steven Hamburg You"re absolutely correct--I must have had a brain freeze. I still remember watching the live news footage from Munich, and how much trouble Mark Spitz got into for making a very bad joke.
I once tried to develop a computer game called Hoppin' Howard. When he was hit, his toupee would fly up in the air and come down on his head. After that, it was mostly levels and things. In the final level, he was up against a fighter who looked remarkably like Muhammed Ali, and Howard had to hop hop hop like a mad thing to escape and win. Cosell was well despised. His crowning moment came during a football game when he (drunk) puked all over Don Meredith during a live broadcast. End of career.
Andrea Claire My age is not the issue. The guy was a no talent parasite who latched himself onto people with talent and used his audacity and chutzpah (ugh) to turn a buck off the talents of others.
are you kidding me Seattle Slew couldn't make a pimple on Secretariat's ass who ran against a bunch of bums you might want to check allydar an spectacular bid
Seattle Slew set a world record for 1mile for a 2 yr old in the Champagne, Easily. Going by times he would have beaten Secretariat by 10 lenghts. If Corder didn't take him wide off the turn and into the stretch in the Marlboro, at the very least, he would have tied Secretariat's World record. He just missed by 2/5 of a second.
Ron Turcotte compared Seattle Slew to Secretariat on live TV right after the running of The Jockey Club. Affirmed who had been hailed as the second coming of Secretariat was beaten soundly by slew on 2 occasions. Comparisons stopped after that. In The Marlboro Cup Cordero kept Slew wide throughout the race to keep him out of any possible trouble he said. He ran the race in 145:45ths just 2 fifths off Secretariats world record. Had Cordero taken the rail like any front runner would he would has at least equaled that world record. two weeks later Slew set a new track record at Belmont for 1 1/4 miles in the Woodward stakes 2:00 flat and easily won by 4 lengths. So please spare me the Secretariat stories. And as far as Alydr and Spectacular Bid Affirmed beat both of them and Slew trounced Affirmed. Nuff said.
robert ascani Slew's time for the Champagne was 1:34 2/5 (per Wikipedia and Horse Racing Nation). Secretariat's time for the Champagne, the reace he lost on DQ, was 1:35 (per secretariat.com and Horse Racing Nation). Never before have I heard of 3/5 of a second translating to 10 lengths. Who/what is your source that Slew's 1:34 2/5 was a world record for the distance/age? Amazing time for a two-year-old, and it's not hard to believe it would be Seattle Slew to have set such a record, but I can't track down online verification of it being a world record.
@@robertascani4462 "So please spare me the Secretariat stories." I get tired of them too. Great horse, nobody doubts it. I even like reading them when he's the horse in question! But he's so often inserted into things like e.g. a comment thread under footage of the 1977 Kentucky Derby, which he didn't run in. Seattle Slew was a great horse too. Why some people (seemingly) can't leave other great horses alone without dragging in poor Secretariat baffles me!
I bought a tb stallion from a guy in southern fl. Said he raced. His race name was General Zod. It wasnt till years later after i cut him. That i looked him up. Turns out it was a seattle slew grandson.
:45 4/5 and 1:10 3/5 what on Earth were those jockeys thinking? Slew even broke slowly. No one bothered to shoot for the lead?Everyone said before the race they knew they were up against a monster. Well they gifted a monster the pace he would dream of. The truth is Slew probably could have run this a second quicker. But the entire field never threatened. What a legend.