Same! Followed by the football results - my grandad sat with his pools coupon on a clipboard, and woe betide anyone who dared speak while the scores were read out 😂
They need to make a movie about the Mighty John Quinn. He wrestled with all the legends, Bret hart, Davie Boy smith, Andrey the giant, you name it. He was North American Champion for 6 years in the 70's. I was lucky enough to be in his daughters grad class, so for the one year we had a wrestling team in a small town in BC he volunteered as asst. coach for my wrestling team. It was a pleasure to learn from him and hear his stories....Thanks John...
Ah yes, truly great we were in 1979. Food shortages, oil shortages, the winter of discontent, Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Tredget, food inflation at 10%, endless IRA bombings, which of those do you miss most?
@@VelvetMetrolinkWhereas nowadays we have riots, homeless, knife crime, drugs galore, online trolls, more mental health problems than ever... yes, we've certainly come a long way...
Ive study and watch and learn about wrestling as much as I can...Gotch, Rikidozan,hogan, Flair, El Santo, Austin, etc...finally diving into British wrestling. Big Daddy. Cant wait to see this!!!
About 10 years before this, John Quinn was headlining at Madison Square Garden and other big US arenas against Bruno Sammartino as Virgil "Kentucky" Butcher.
Oh yes, I remember that!. He said that this was what he was going to do to Big Daddy. I've got to hand it to the Crabtree family, their promotion of John Quinn as a wrestling 'heel' was outstanding.
I went on holiday to Barry Island in 1979 and in those days there was not a TV in your your chalet, and had to go to the TV lounge and for this fight it was jammed packed. Proper wrestling good old days
Top showmanship.seemed to so real when we were kids .Note the people kissing shirley Crabtree as he makes his way to the ring such was he loved by the crowd
@@andrewh5457 pallo and mcmannus did genuinely dislike each other though. They'd wrestle to a predetermined finish, but slip in some real stuff on the way there
To put into context. Mighty John Quinn is around as big as Goldberg and Brock Lesnar in their Prime. The third body slam from Big Daddy launched mighty John across the ring. That's what Big Daddy could do to them. Big Daddy was a true powerhouse. What are specimen Big Daddy was. He doesn't get enough respect in my opinion. Strength and power and what he was able to do. You don't see many wrestlers launching someone over 300 pounds with a body slam across the ring these days...
Big daddy was an awful wrestler. The match was short because daddy was too out of shape to go any longer. Similar size to bam bam Bigelow. The difference in ability is staggering between the two.
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more. But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him. Is having physical strength not a skill?
@@tonyclifton2230 you gotta remember though Big Daddy was made by the people. His gimmicks was popular. And if they wasn't or he wasn't popular then he probably would've become an heel and might have had seen more. But Big Daddy was an out and out Strong Man. He had a 64 inch chest, that's same as Eddie Hall. And he easily used to power slam wrestling that was similar size or even bigger than him. And his back body drops was real it had to be real because wrestlers, the likes of Kamala and others wasn't athletic enough to give him a hand, so he pretty much had to lift them up on his back. Is having physical strength not a skill?
It was short because promoter Max Crabtree wanted it to be short. Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this- see his late 77 match with John Elijah-; but Max wanted him to either have quick wins like this or tag in at the end to save the day in tag matches and never be seen as vulnerable, just 100% strong all the time.
It’s hard to believe now, but this fight was front page news in the tabloids for the full week before it happened! But I guess reality shows do the same thing these days. As a 7 year old, saw it as a massive event.
Genial lucha libre clásica de los años 70 tas. Y igual fue la mejor época de el mítico andré. El gigante y muchos más geniales todos como los de este video fueron y son geniales y una gran historia de la lucha libre todos ellos por siempre andré el gigante amigo. Saludos desde chile un fans de la lucha libre mundial.
ah, "Big John Quinn" was a wrestling giant in Western Canada for Stu Hart's Stampede Wrestling in the early to mid 70's. he was our North American Champion a few times.
If i remember correctly this was shown on cup final day 1979. As an 11 year old boy Big Daddy warmed my heart that day (and then Alan Sunderland went and broke it in the last minute of the cup final lol)
I loved watch the Saturday afternoon wrestling on TV. It was all scripted, as it is now over here & in America but it was great fun. The characters; Billy Two Rivers, Crybaby Jim Brakes etc. My favourite was Les Kellett.
People ask why it finished so early, my guess is Big Daddy did not have the conditioning to go much further. Quinn was brilliant at promoting this fight but the truth is he was one helluva wrestler and the longer this went on, the more difficult it becomes to make the agreed moves look tidy and natural for BD. Simply put, by the time BD had lifted the very compliant and helpful Quinn 3 times, he was getting exhausted. They agreed it had to end there or it would be too difficult to act on convincingly.
It finished quick because Max Crabtree wanted Big Daddy to be an invincible juggernaut who just ran over all opponents. Big Daddy could wrestle longer and better than this if he was allowed to- check out his match with John Elijah in late 1977. It was Max who insisted he only wrestle squashes or tag in at the end of tag matches and stay 100% strong.
Talk shit about Big Daddy all you want but he was mega over with not just the crowds but mainstream public as well. So much so he is still fondly remembered today by English people. You can know all the wrestling moves in the book but that alone won't get you a legacy.
This match had a huge build-up with Quinn getting a huge heel push and squashing mid-carders. His best moment was wen he took a teddy bear from a kid in the crowd and ripped it to pieces. It was probably a plant but my god it got heat. And Crabtree was a much better wrestler than he is generally given credit for. There was more to him than a belly splash.
I was lucky enough to see all the stars of British wrestling live and WWE stars live and also met lots after the events. British wrestling though was the diamond as far as I'm concerned. Great characters. Shirley crabtrees brother being plonked by GH too.
Big daddy was very enterteing i mean he wasn't young he was fat but damn that strenght was impressive and that charisma his match with haystack was like andre the giant vs hulk hogan both match weren't good if we are talking about sport side but they both had great vibe
That was an unusual finisher for Daddy, it seemed almost to be a backdrop driver, I only remember him using that a few times. Usually against the "smaller" big men like Quinn, Scrubber Daley and a few others
Yes back in those days there were more people who thought it was real, but now days everyone knows it's choreographed before hand, the Americans took it a step further and introduced far more drama into it, some of it was quite amusing, check out US wrestler the king Jerry Lawler on you tube. Probably the most impressive heavyweight wrestler I saw was in the 60's he was a Canadian wrestler called George's Gordienko, he was surprisingly quick for a man of his size.
Basically, the guys who were fit enough to actually do the flip and take the bump but still big enough to be the "giant of the week" for a Big Daddy match.
Lol. You can see Quinn cooperating with Crabtree in the crotch holds. You can just imagine these two working out the "fight" moves in a gym somewhere. What I like about it most though is Charterhouse educated Kent Walton taking it all dead seriously. Wonderful nonsense.
Unfortunately I always believed that until yesterday when a fight popped on my recommended list and Big Daddy actually lost it literally destroyed my memories of being a kid I used to think he was unbeatable.
Shirley hit my farther in law in a fight and knocked him out with one punch my farther in law said he had never been hit so hard and he was one tough dude
People can call this crap all they want, but back in the day this was all we had. Just look at the crowd reaction. Whatever happened to wrestling in the future, Big Daddy was the biggest star in the country bar none.
They built this up for weeks and it lasted less than two minutes. As much as the grannies and the kids loved him, Big Daddy and the Crabtrees killed the Golden Goose that was a massive TV crowd puller.
Saw Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Mighty John Quinn, Pat Roach, Jackie Pallo and more twice at Royal Albert Hall late 70's..People complaining here just don't get it, it was hilarious, yes it was staged but you saw all ages enjoying it because it was mainly slapstick violence. Like British Pantomime, some people just don't get it! Glued to it Saturday afternoons at my Nan's.. WWE is just as staged, fake tan and bottle blonds.. Leave our Shirley alone! Lol thanks for the memories! After this, my next favourite was SUMO!!!
The biggest problem I had with big daddy was that he was the promoters brother and thus he would always be the main event and would always go over. If you think Hogan was bad at not wanting to job; big daddy was worse. BUT he did give us Steve Regal, so he's ok.
im flicking through these world of sport wrestling days trying to find my grandad Peter Jay the referee, most of them have Peter Szackas in, if you know any that he is in a link would be very greatful, thanks
Christ...Big Daddy reminds me of the Blob from X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Just needed some CGI wacky ring ropes and opponents flying 20 feet straight up.
I would have liked to have seen a genuine mma contest between ving tsun grandmaster Victor Khan and Big Daddy, apparently in real life Big Daddy knew all the moves, this would have been better than Mohammed Ali vs Bruce Lee as suggested on some other web listing!
Before he was blacklisted Crabtree was a fast and agile middleweight heel and yes he did know his stuff, but also was arrogant and no one wanted to work with him so he couldn't get booked for most of the 60s and in the interim got huge and slow but was able to turn face (or blue eye)
It would be if Leeds Utd fans weren't a gang of cunts, every time they come down to Sheffield to face Wednesday there's bother between them and local fans.
We were very proud of him in Halifax he was born In girlington Bradford but family moved to Halifax when he was a young boy according to his cousin Betty who is in her 80s she has family resemblance
Obviously matches are fixed but sometimes its more obvious than others the build up was hyped to death cos of Quinn bad mouthing the UK Daddy ALWAYS comes along and does his splash then its lights out for his opponent. No wonder wrestling got taken off the TV by the mid 80s it had turned into a joke. Mostly cos of Big Daddy.
@@13thcentury Yes,Max Crabtree and Brian Crabtree. To be fair I only first went in London to a Wrestling Bill over 60 years ago , so,obviously,still learning. I used to see The Rock's Grandfather:Peter Maivia fight at Bermondsey Baths,South East London.
Esto si que era un SHOW!!! Más arreglado no puede estar ni siquiera 10 minutos de lucha para verlos disque darse porrazos a los 2 minutos ya había terminado. Si ese gordo dura más de 10 le da un infarto.
Someone told me when Big Daddy aka Shirley Crabtree ko The Mighty John Quinn that Quinn was out for the count for about 20 mins is that correct would like to know please
I don't know about 20 minutes, but he was on the floor for quite a while. You do know it wasn't real, though? Note that when Big Daddy did his trademark belly crashes on top of an opponent, he always dropped on to his knees, so his opponents didn't get the full force of the impact.
@kanenkitten Agree with the Hulk comparison. Again, the Hulk could wrestle some great matches but too many others were just gimmick exhibitions. It sells a load of shirts to kids and I understand the value of having 'stars' instead of wrestlers, but I'm just not interested in them if they can't do the business in the ring.
Even by the standards of wrestling - this was a disgrace. The Mighty John Quinn, young, fit and a great wrestler. And Big Daddy, a big fat useless lump who couldnt wrestle his way out of a paper bag. What a fit up. A mate of mine went to see this and still moans about what a waste of money it was.
Big Daddy makes Andre look like Rey Mysterio Jr. 😅 But hey, he was on TV when there was like 4 channels and people didn't know any better, so they remember him with affection, despite being probably the worst top wrestler in any country of all time. *awaits irrational hate replies from Brits* 😉
John Quinn getting his butt kicked by Big Daddy and looking hot! John Quinn is just a piece of meat in this match. John is unable to up a fight! Pure slave-meat for Big Daddy! Who am I kidding, why would Big Daddy make a slave out of John Quinn when he can make a meal out of him!
