The 1980 924 Carrera GT with 210 horsepower may not seem like much today but at the time it was more than many V8 powered sports cars. The 1980 Ferrari 308 GTS/GTB sold in North America with it’s 3.0 liter V8 was rated 205 horsepower and 181 lbs ft of torque. The 1980 Corvette with the 5.7 liter V8 only had 190 horsepower in stock trim and 230 horsepower in it’s highest spec trim. A car with similar specs as the 924 Carrera GT was the 1980 Lotus Essex Turbo Esprit. It was powered by a turbocharged 2.2 liter 4 cylinder engine and had 210 horsepower and 200 lbs ft of torque that only had to push a little over 2500 lbs down the road making it one of the quickest accelerating cars of 1980 with a 0-60 mph time of just 5.5 seconds. The 3400 lbs 230 horsepower Corvette did 0-60 mph in 7.1 seconds while the 3300 lbs Ferrari 308 did 0-60 mph in 7.2 seconds. Compared to the 1980/1981 Porsche 924 Carrera GT that was rated at 210 PS/207 HP and 203 lbs ft of torque and weighed in at just over 2600 lbs with a 0-60 mph time of 5.7 seconds cars like the Corvette and Ferrari 308 were slow. To get the similar or better acceleration times as the 924 Carrera GT in 1980 you had to get a Ferrari 512bb that did 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds or a Lamborghini Countach that did 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Both cars cost considerably more than the Porsche. So despite the 924 Carrera GT being considered an underdog when you actually look at the performance of other high performance cars of the time the 924 Carrera GT is quite a good performer that goes toe to toe with the best sports cars of the day and even out performs many of them.
@@ArieVisker yes. The 924 Carrera GT was based off the 924 Turbo but the engine used a top mounted intercooler that helped lower intake temperatures, had a higher compression ratio and new digital ignition system that all bumped power up to around 210 horsepower. Then of course the suspension, body work and a few other things were modified and upgraded to make it a better performer. If I remember right they made 406 cars in total and they were only available in silver, black or red.
@@porscheguy09 thank you for the information. I have a couple of books about Porsche and I could not find this information. The seats are they ever been used in different Porsche models ?. I have never seen them in other Porsche cars.
@@ArieVisker the seats were the same “Sport” seats available in the 911 from 1981-1984 but featured a unique velour fabric design only available on the 924 Carrera GT. The description below was copied from the website I linked at the bottom of this response. The website loads in German but most computers and smartphones give you the option to translate it into English or whatever language you prefer. The website gives a complete overview of the 924 including the Carrera GT and lists all the specifications for each variant. The link should take you straight to the Carrera GT section of the website but if it doesn’t you can find it in the Menu. This is just one of many websites available online that discuss the Carrera GT. “Sports seats in solid pinstripe in exclusive black-red with all-round red piping. Leather steering wheel, leather gear stick. Selectable options largely identical to the 924 turbo optional extras (Targa, Klima, eFH, eSp, radio, electrical antenna, alarm system, rear wiper) “ werk924.com/924-carrera-serie/924-carrera-gt/
@@porscheguy09 well the reason I asked the question. I can buy a rolling chassis of a 924 carrera gt. The engine is not with the car it has blown up by the owmer and brought it the crusher (yes really).
The entire 924/944/968 line doesn't get the respect they deserve. They literally saved Porsche, their achievement at LeMans is nothing short of astounding and to this day well kept versions of all these cars is about as rewarding a driving experience as there is. The 3 litre S2 and 968 and the Turbo S variants being the pinnacle of the species. Read Automobile magazines take on the 1989 944 Turbo S vs. the 911 Turbo on a track. In short the 944 ate the 911s lunch. Respect.
@@althejazzman With equal amounts of power a well sorted 968 would have field day against a similar generation 911 around a track. Once you get into the water cooled era the balance sways as technology and chassis development literally defy the laws of physics so to speak.
A work friend bought himself an 944 non turbo. Early model with the 6 O clock tach. I think I ached for a few days after I drove it. 1 because the non power steering was heavy as, but 2 because it was just so much fun. I've got 240z's, an RX7 and driven GTRs etc.. and although the 944 is quite slow by today's standards it's that mechanical raw feel and sound the engine makes in these cars that just feels special. And I adore the shape of them. Just so cool looking.
Yes the NA is low on power, Gen1 has even less. Pretty soft stock suspension too. But sorted turbos are faster than 996 gt3 cars on the track. The lack of power is more than made up for in the handling and surprisingly they beat the gt3 down the straight too. Now being beat by a soccer mom in a Cayanne S, while your in a NA, on an uphill stoplight while she is probably 25% throttle does really make you want to swap in a 968/S2 or LS in it though, that's for sure
Exactly! I love the Carfection channel, but we don’t need another one! Petrolicious was something unique on RU-vid because it wasn’t like other car review channels. It had its own unique flavor and vibe to it. Not anymore apparently...
They did it for a Lancia once as well with an old english guy. I think it's just a special thing for the production racecars and other stuff will be the owner driver format
its part of their other film series, that might I also add has been going for quite some time (started in early 2019). You are probably far more familiar with their non paid content series like "Morning Coffee" or "Made to Drive". This series is called "Homologation Special".
Wonderful video, grew up absolutely loving the 924/944 series and finally at the age of 25 I bought my own 1982 944 last year, it’s got its fair share of issues (most notably the electrics which had been badly damaged by a leaking battery tray). However it’s become my daily driver and I absolutely enjoy driving it, it’s so unique on the road compared to modern euro boxes of today and it’s letting me learn how to look after cars as I’ve been doing a lot of work myself, certainly nice knowing I’m one of only a few people of my age who is willing to deal with an older car and it’s issues but it’s a rewarding experience!
I know it's not exactly a 924 Carrera GT but I loved my 944 Turbo S that I got new back in 1988. I always wished it had those vents between the headlights. Such an underrated car even today !!
Awesome story, but I still prefer the "owner story" format. There are TONS of car review websites. What makes Petrolicious so special is the celebration of the relationship between owner and car. There is an emotional attachment to the mechanical interaction of man and machine. Gas, gears, vibrations, grip, coffee, leather, sound, and clutch pressure lead to ... bliss. Petrolicious need to continue to capture that.
Petrolicious was special because the owners told how much they loved their cars from their special perspective. I appreciated the way the cinematography was secondary to the story. I hope we’ll get the old format back. If you’re reading this Mr. Behnia, if you start a new channel, I will come to support you and your freedom of speech and opinion. I’ll be happy to debate and challenge you but I won’t ask you to step down.
I seriously cannot believe the toxic, marxist, BS cancel culture came for this channel. I just learned this and it makes me sick. I'm so sick of this shit.... is nothing sacred anymore??
There's no such thing as a poor man's Porsche. They all require good maintenance, whether that's the complexity of a modern Cayman, or the usual classic car metalwork repairs and worn out parts of a classic. They will all be rewarding to own and drive though. My 924 Turbo is the best built car I have ever owned.
But the 924 was actually called "Hausfrauenporsche" in Germany, which literally translates to "housewife's Porsche", so nothing anywhere near top notch, as the 911s.
Not sure what you mean by "best built" but I have a 924 Turbo aswell and to me it feels quite cheap (but not bad for 70's standards). Like you can tell they used the Audi/VW parts bin a lot, for example the interior plastics feel cheap and its missing features like fender liners etc. but they sure are great to drive, I take mine to the autoslalom a lot and it gives modern cars a run for their money for sure.
I've always believed front and mid-engine Porsches represented the best handling icons of the brand not the 911. Beating 911's on Sunset Blvd with a Porsche 944 turbo back in the 80's is my proof of this fact.
I think the reality is there is always a faster car out there, and depends how much $ the owners wants to spend to get winning performance. So while no doubt your Porsche 944 is quick, and a fun great car, there is no doubt some Porsche 911 out there that can smoke it. I think it kinda comes down to the owners what they like, what they want to spend and all their personal preferences. I have a base 911 Carrera, its pretty spunky, its not the fastest street car out there, but like it suits my purposes, its dam fun to drive, heck I would love to have a 944 I love the look of those cars. I would happily have more 911, 944, 928, 924 they all are awesome sports cars.
The guy seems to be a decent driver and I like his enthusiasm and as a big plus for me, as a watch nerd, he’s wearing a nice old GMT! Congrats on all of that!
i wanna fix that turbo flange leak..... anyways 924's are incredible cars . as a porsche mechanic im always delighted when i get to work on them. the audi 2.0 is actually a pretty good little engine as long as you keep the cam spray bar clear. i feel like most people just have never driven a well tuned 924. not many people keep the k jet tuned well and many people just ignore the importance of proper ignition timing.
The Porsche 924 was a fantastic sports car and it only got better as 924 Turbo (931). I even think that these models were better than the later 944. Something pure and simple was lost and especially after the 944 got a facelift in the second half of 1985 with, among other things, a completely new and for me totally uninspiring interior/dashboard. The weight also increased with the years from light 1080 Kg the first couple of years with 924 to over 300 Kg more for the last years with 944 Turbo (951). The dream was of course a 924 Carrera GT (937), but that model was out of financial reach for me in the early 80's. When I got the opportunity a few years later, I bought a 928 S.
@@gav240z Absolutely, but the 924 Turbo (931) fom. the mid-1981 is actually not much more inferior than the 924 Carrera GT (disregarding the design and exclusivity - only 406 was built). The 931 officially had 177 hp from the same 1984 cm3 large four-cylinder engine (vs. 210 hp for the 924 Carrera GT), but I have both experienced and heard about (ie then in the mid 80's) several 931's that were measured with a dyno for everything between 190 and 210 horsepower. The consensus at the time was that the engine in 931 (mrk.II) actually produces in excess of 200 HP. I have even experienced that a standard 931 fought head on against a prefacelift 944 Turbo (951) with 220 HP on the Autobahn over a long distance. It fell short only due to poorer brakes (which by default was taken from the 928 S) and thus hot running before the more modern brakes on the 951. Fun fact: the 924 Turbo has Porsche's internal number 931. The very first 911 Turbo (from the G-Series in 1974 ) had the internal number 930. 924 Carrera GT was a further development of 931 so it got the internal number 937. 924 Carrera GTP and GTR has the internal number 939. 924 Carrera GTR had in 1981 375 HP from the same Audi based two-liter four-cylinder engine as the original 924 model with 125 HP five years earlier. At this time, the standard 911 Turbo 3.3 (930) had 300 HP. The 924 Carrera GTR (939) was a thoroughbred racing model with a top speed of almost 395 Km/h (245 mph), but still :)
@@emmanuellehuu8818 funny I love the engine in my 924S. Even with all the Italian sports cars I have owned it still possesses the most charismatic and characterful in-line 4 I have ever driven.
I know there has been a shift to a new Owner of this Channel, but I wonder if you will continue the Owners stories about their cars that we came to love in the past? I like this format as well, but thats nothing special on RU-vid anymore. Please keep up the tradition. But still it's always refreshing to see something new from you guys.
Dont change whats not broken. Petrolicious used to demonstrate our love for cars as an culture. A love letter to the passion, filled with gratitude. Fuel to the fire. This is dull
I have watched the old videos 2 and three times over. The way that they were produced almost made me feel connected with the owner. It gave me a completely different perspective when I drive my vintage cars; a better appreciation for them. My hope is that they revert to the previous style and format...not a fan of this at all.
The history knowledge is quite lacking, but great to make a video about a great car! The standard 924 is great fun aswell. Btw Derek Bell have the 924 GTS, a completely different animal (245/275hp, super lightweight, cage, bucket seats etc) to the GT which is fairly close to a normal turbo car. I hope we will se one in a future video :)
Despite its oddity status among Porsches, this car brings me memories of simpler times because a friend of mine used to own one of these. It is more about the experiences around the car than the car itself; now, the car itself, that's a different story.
Currently owning 3 Turbos, i don't think they'll ever get the recognition they deserve. If they do, consumers precieved reliability will not let them raise in value
Thank you for finally producing additional content amidst this site's unfortunate social and operational issues. However, the type of content presented isn't in line with the originality of motoring ownership. I believe all preceding content was presented from the owner's perspective. Although this gentleman's presentation is well done, it isn't the original concept whatsoever. This site became popular through the display of international ownership and the passionate stories of how they came to be. I'm sure we all miss these beloved stories as well as the individual and distinct soundtracks of each vehicle in their element. Please be conscious of this as I'm sure you want to keep what's remaining of your subscribers.
@@chadderton hope you didn't buy into it Warren. Content such as this is everywhere on RU-vid. The original content has a more unique perspective that was worth sharing.
Not really sure why so many people hate this video. I’m starting to get into cars myself and I’m interested in buying a used 924 locally so this video certainly fueled my want for one lol.
Great video and great to see accurate information on the cars presented. That Audi motor was actually based on a design from Mercedes originally and guess who designed the transaxle for Audi that it uses? It was Porsche, so it came full circle back to Porsche.
Great video of a great classic porsche. The story of the 924 is such a great one and underappreciated. The white 924 in the Stuttgart museum that held the 924 speed record is a hidden secret worth checking out too. That said working on the 924 is both fun and frustrating given that those examples that havent been cared for like any classic car need some TLC. But as a raw mechanical.deibig experience they are ace and everyone should try one at least once. Mine is almost complete and back on the road ready for cruising and the odd sprint and hill climb blast 👍
i really can imagine the feelings of the driver. he transport the fun he has in a remarkable style of speech. and yes, i know he would like to scream just "yeaaaah" and "yeeeeaaah"
Hey I’m having a no start issue as well on my 1978 924, I’ve replaced the faulty ignition coil (resistance measurements were off spec) however still no start, but I’ve noticed there’s 2 ballast resistors before the coil wich take the voltage down, I’ve measured them and the 1st one takes the voltage down from 12v to 8v and the 2nd one takes it down from that 8v to like 5.4V. This seems strange to me, as people say the coil needs 12v, do you think I should remove those resistors?
The video is good, but it's not Petrolicious. Please hold on to the old format of storytelling! We're all car guys, we know all the specs of these cars. We want owner passion!
I really like the older Porsches. These you could work on yourself in your garage. All you needed was a jack, a good socket set, and some screwdrivers and you were set. Now Porsches are so complex that you need all these special scan tools and computers to do anything on them.
Not a fan of the base or turbo 924, but the Carrera Gt is a different story. A Carrera GT in the states is quite rare. I had the pleasure of driving a 944 turbo back in the day, it was quite impressive. Ergo was great, right where you expect everything, handling was incredible, and back then, it was quite a fast car, this car I have much respect for, and the 924 Carrera GT, but it is a bit of a unicorn.
Note on 1981 Le Mans, Walter Rohrl raced the first "944", with the new M44 engine, a 2.5 litre, dual overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder, turbocharged motor. Not expecting the brand new motor to last it somehow won the class. You might recognize it as the Hugo Boss 924 GTP/944 LM (Not even the Porsche museum can decide what it's called)
Hopefully Petrolicious will continue to make beautifully presented biographical passion projects. These car infotainments are a dime a dozen on RU-vid.
My question now is having owned a 944t, whether I should restore a 914-6 or a 924 S / turbo etc of some kind. "...born as it was from the reshuffled plans of a water-cooled Volkswagen sports car that never came to be...placing at Le Mans..." I thought this was about the 914 winning Le Mans and being chilled out by Porsche to avoid dethroning the 911, for a minute there.
This is just as any other youtube road test. Not like the original Petrolicious were owners told their story with the car. We all already know the story and specs of this classic cars, we want to see how is to own them and live with them. ALL LIVES MATTER!!!!
This isn’t a “new” format people! It’s just one video from the numerous other style series that are available to paid subscribers, that has been made available on RU-vid. This video has been available on the paid site for months. Probably while they (hopefully) produce new content. I guess there is a new owner but I’m guessing that there has been a drop in almost all productions, it is hopefully only temporary.
I hate the format, the owner storytelling format is WAYYYYYYY Better, it made it sound more like a genuine story and I loved the scenes that were all about driving
Jesus guys just chill, it’s a rare video with a different format. People in the comments feeling extremely entitled, bitching about free videos. 2020 is a shit enough year, people need to chill.
