Hi, I flew the Mirage 5 Finger (named Dagger during the war) in the argentain air force, what a beautifull aircraft. I even ejected after a landing gear problem years ago. I was not in the conflict as I joined the air force 3 years after the war ended, but made many practices of attacks on naval targets (south east of Bahia Blanca) mostly frigates of our navy. It was really exhilarating flying a few meters over the sea, at 500kts trying to get a good position to make an attack. The ships really could turn tight! Something that caught my attention was that coming in very low, you could see the silhouette of the ship in the horizon more than 20 miles away in good weather conditions. Those 2 or 3 minutes approach were pure magic. I really miss those days. My salute and respect to all those that participated in the conflict, thanks a lot and very nice video!!
Hi cap, i´m form Argentina. Love to see the reeancetmen of the San Carlos air battle. I read the the britsh navy call it Bomb Ally. One mistake . Or Mirages (III) an Dagger (M-5 built by IAI us a Nesher), can not refueling. They arrives to the islando with limited fuel to make the attack and return to home. The normal load of the Dagger was 3 tank of 1300lts and 2 x 250kg bomb. The A-4 load was: A-4Q, (naval: 4 o 6 Snake Eye and 2 x 1300 lts drop tanks) and A-4B or C (Air Frce: 1 mk 17 and 2 drop tanks
@@dabneyoffermein595 Absolutely! By popular request, we demand a re-do, with Alejandro Grossi's information on weapon's load, plus some pre-mission training on land on using iron bombs, for Pete's sake!
My Dad was in San Carlos on board HMS Intrepid. He said it was the scariest part of the conflict for him hearing the argentine jets whizzing past. He didn't know his ship was actually hit until a few years ago when reading his old skippers book
@@searchtron7601 Hes saying that Caps initiation Argentinian accent sounds like a Frenchman. Which it does. His accent was so bad it didn’t even sound like the right country.
59:00: The flight with the smoke on the wing, reminds Ensign Dellepiane, this young Air Force pilot was hit by a 30 mm projectile, it blew him a hole in the base of the wing, and losing fuel quickly was assisted by one. of the KC-130H and on the way back to the base, it gave it fuel only so that the engine would not stop and it would reach the continent
This was hands down the most entertaining DCS video I've ever watched. Utter madness. The wife keeps telling me adults don't watch other people play video games on the big TV while screaming "ROLLING REVERSAL, CLOSE TO GUNS", but it's my goddamn life and I'll waste it how I like.
Note about the bombs dropped by the A4, The Argentine air force was not unaware of the problem they would have using this type of bomb to attack naval targets, in fact it was something they had thought a lot about. by 1982 the only bombs that Argentina had were for attack on a ground target, since these were the only ones needed to bomb terrorists / communists in the subversive war. and they had no interest in acquiring them, since for this purpose the new exocet-super etendart weapon system was being purchased. According to the words of Commodore Ruben Moro "we had to go fight with what we had at hand, if we placed a contact fuse on those bombs, we ran the risk that the same explosion, as the bomb was so large, would shoot down our pilot. , so for this we had to put a little delay in the fuze, but in the end the bombs were heavy and the type 42 destroyers were weak in terms of armor, which is why on many occasions the bombs ended up penetrating from side to side and exploding in the sea."
Fun fact: At the 3rd of June of 1982 during the Falklands war an Avro Vulcan after destroying some Argentine radars (operation black buck 6) had to do an emergency landing at Rio De Janeiro - Brazil but he got detected by the brazilian radars and intercepted by 2 F-5s from the Brazilian Air Force also arrested for some days...the F-5s broke the sound barrier still above the city...after the Vulcan landed the Brazilian Air Force confiscated one of their missiles (AGM-45 Shrike) that failed during their mission and they were not able to fire it. The pilots became friends and the British pilots enjoyed Rio's night for a week and were allowed to fly back to Ascension on 10th June...there's some old newspapers from that time with pics of the Brazilians and British pilots in a bar...the missile was never given back to the UK cuz Brazil said that they couldn't give back a weapon that would be used to hurt/attack a "brother" country as Argentina (tbh Brazil just wanted to study the missile and make their own version of it (MAR-1)... That was a summary of the story btw...there's some more interesting details on it if yall got curious abt it u can search for Operation Black Buck 6 dont think there's as many details in english as in portuguese tho...
@@Foxtrop13 Actually there were 7 Black Buck operations...5 of them were performed...2 cancelled...1 bcuz of weather conditions and the other one i don't remember why...
@@henry247 the anti radar mission destroyed 1 argentine radar, the bombing mission dropped 21 bombs over port stanley airfield, only 1 bomb hitted the runway, they fixed between 24hs and keep having c130 landings
Thats my mates firing those rapiers . My battery 14 Coles Kop was there . After my time , I'd left the army six months before . 14 battery had an excellent kill rate , once the launchers were properly calibrated.
I use robotic surveying equipment that will jitter like the one in the video if the ground is too soft. Is it the same phenomenon? (The actuator motors wobbling the base.)
I remember the Falklands war, and this battle happened a couple of days after my tenth birthday. Our next door neighbour's son was a helicopter tech on HMS Glamorgan when she took an Exocet strike, the Seawolf missile (Glamorgan didn't have CIWS, I think) managed to deflect the Exocet upwards but didn't destroy it. Instead of going through the Glamorgan's hull the Exocet skipped off the helo deck and skidded into the hanger, where it exploded and killed everyone in there at the time. David, our neighbour's son, was literally closing and dogging the hatch into the hanger at the time and so he survived, but his best mate was one of the casualties
I'm getting old....I still remember seeing all the Falklands footage film on SABC TV news at the time - I was 6 years old back then, but remember it extremely vividly.
as long time fan from argentina i was mind blown when i saw this video in my subs. thnx for the reenactment and mad respects to both sides of the war o7 Edit: Also i made an interview with one of the pilots of the A4 named "Alberto Filippini" if you want to know the history tellme and i will try to translate it for you cap!
Cap. Most fun and skill I've seen you exhibit for quite awhile! You had me on the edge of my seat with a huge smile during that dogfighting if yours. Wonderful!
I felt the Harriers ought to have been restricted to 2 sidewinders apiece as were the Sea Harriers in that conflict. Great re-enactment. I was impressed by the refueling - talented bunch!
We used to fly A4 Skyhawks with our RNZAF... HMS Invincible visited NZ in the early 80s.. I have a mate and he was Tactical Radar Operator on HMS Invincible during the Falklands War he didn't know if he was going to live or die!.. thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿
Hey I would love to know what PC setup y'all would recommend to run DCS World, I'm looking to get into. I plan on starting out using head tracking but I would like the option of VR later so I was wondering what PC setup y'all would recommend
Imagine how cool this would be with pilots flying as low as the Argentines did! Also sad none of the (Sea) Harrier pilots came over the radio taunting “La Muerta Negra ees comeeeng!”
tendrías que haberte pegado un poco más al mar y no tenían ni comunicadores éramos tan mediocre d tecnología y con eyectables vencidos todo man y saludo desde 🇦🇷👏👏👏💪
@@grimreapers I found a good one on RU-vid from “Timeline”. It showed a ton of real life footage that was shot by the Argentinians and English militaries.
Air defense with that generation of missile systems near land is horrendously difficult. By the time the aircraft clear the clutter it’s only close in systems. Not only were the British frigates of that era massively under armed, their missiles, other than sea dart, were super short range. Sea Cat was always an inferior system. Sea Wolf was new and state of the art at the time, but was a point defense system. No ships equipped with Sea Wolf was hit. Technology matters. Sea Dart had the range but was likely unable to lock on due to ground clutter, and probably within minimum range once they cleared it. Air defense from within the harbor was a stupid idea, but when most of your systems have such a short range there is no other choice. Despite it’s age, in the open Sea Dart was effective. During the Gulf War , a Sea Dart shot down a Silkworm (while an OHP FFG was busy shooting a battleship with its Phalanx).
Sea Dart proved its worth when it scored some long range and very high altitude kills and forced the Argentine pilots to stay very low on their approach to the islands. It's hard to fly so low and it puts the fuel burn through the roof so there was almost no loiter time near the targets.
True. Also, Sea Dart had a safety feature not allowing it to engage targets below 300ft. To avoid hitting the fleet helos in ASW/SAR missions. Argentina knew this because they had the same British destroyers with the same weapons system.
56:47 "I'm so sexy... hhhurgh" Best famous last words I heard in a while. And for someone who doesn't know the Argentinian accent you made a very good impression. They are like that.
I don't know if DCS can model this but the Rapier Missile was purely hit to kill during the war. After the war it was assessed to have been very ineffective (IIRC 60 launches and only 1 kill which wasnt far off what the 1960's era Seacat Missile was able to do) due to it narrowly missing its targets and so it was upgraded with a proximity fuse which would have solved this issue. The Argentine Air Force only adjusted their bombs after the BBC announced on Global news what their bombs were doing....pretty much treason if you ask me. Got to give it to the Argentine Air Force...they definitely fight well :) could have easily been a British defeat had a couple things more went in Argentina's favour. It was much closer...too close than many realise. The Royal Navy had to seriously re-evaluate its air defences after the conflict -Sea Dart had major issues due to it being designed for high altitude work, the Type 965 Search Radar and Type 992 FC Radar being antiques, Sea Wolf had computer problems (which were patched on site by Marconi Engineers) and that only 3 Ships present were equipped with it, Sea Cat although reliable in terms of actually operating was old and slow, 4 different versions were in operation with only GWS 20 optical director (HMS Yarmouth and Plymouth - they had GWS 21 but retained the old Optical director) and the GWS 24 version (Type 21 Frigate with RTN 10X Orion radar able to operate within San Carlos due to Radar Clutter and land clutter. GWS 21 and 22 (County and Leander Class) used older radars. Sea Slug was hopeless before the Conflict so it was used as land attack missile on Stanley Airfield
Love the videos - esp' the mod AC types. One, wee item with this : "g. The Argentine Air Force used the Mirage IIIEA during the Falklands War, but their lack of an aerial refueling capability limited the aircraft's usefulness in the conflict. Even using drop tanks, the Mirages only had an endurance of five minutes within the combat area around the British fleet...."
You are flying too high. You should fly a little closer to water surface. If you look some pictures o hear the pilots testimony, at the attack moment they were some place between the ship's deck and antennas. Nevertheles it's great job you've done!
12 odd mins in Argies didnt fire any A2A in conflict. Wrong they fired several at Harriers but in head to head merge they all failed to aquire and passed by. The US (covertly?) supplied Sidewinders on the Harriers had little problem apparently.
What did Cap mean by the EFM version? To do this properly you should also do it dead reckoning - the Argentians didn't have an INS or a GCI for the A4s (the British GR3's INS's wouldn't align on the carriers too so they had to do dead reckoning too and also had to drop their bombs with iron sights...), also the escort ships (firgates) should be moving - hard!
Awesome video! But you're all flying way, WAY too high. If you're not hitting the ship's antennas then you're too high. Also the Mirages should have been vertical on the afterburner after dropping their bombs.
My friends dad was there in real life, with I think 45 commando. He got a medal for a probable kill on the 25th using a Blowpipe, I believe it was one of the turboprop attackers flying from the Island at Port Stanley. The actual kill is unclear with it being split with one of the frigates, so as far as I'm aware they share the credit. Great recreation there, but i think you should of had another couple of rapiers to represent the missiles that the frigates would of been firing ( as you couldn't use the weapons on the models you had) though considering the losses that might have been too much?
@@grimreapers I'm not sure, but seems likely. I only know what his son has told me as Bob never talks about it nowadays ( he had a stroke a few years back) though I have seen the medal and citation for bravery. Oddly I knew someone else who was there too, also called Bob! He was a chef on the Coventry. Sadly he passed around 10 years ago so I followed this one with great interest!
@@grimreapers Yupp-only Argentinian fixed wing capable of military action on the Islands. Some were based at Goose Green hence the famous battle there where Harriers also assisted in AG attacks.
What's with the 'Frech-Argie'? Nice dogfight, though. And the reenactment certainly gives credit to the 'controlled chaos' that it probably felt like along with the difficulty in dropping 'dumb' bombs on small targets while moving fast. Still, the 'Fench-Argie' accent was hilarious!
That was a great bit of dynamite-fishing, but you guys might get an angry letter from the Royal Navy for damaging some of their ships with your recklessness :P
lf the RGs had decent bombs and not out of date bombs with faulty fuses the British ship loses would have been devastating ! Many many bombs hit but didn't explode !! Some passed through the ships they hit and made holes in them when they should have exploded and others stuck but didn't explode and were defused !! The RGs must now know how unlucky they were ! had they all exploded the RGs might have won the war !! As the saying goes " The British are always lucky in war !".
I was actually on the Canberra in San carlos on 21st May and saw the attacks from the other angle right through the day. It was chaotic but there were never that many aircraft overhead at one time, attacks came in waves. Hats off to the Argentine pilots for pressing home attacks. Even as a DCs flyer i was still pleased to see the skyhawks and mirage's getting splashed on the way home. A good re-enactment, other then perhaps Capn's dodgy accent!
@@grimreapers Possibly, but didn't know that is something you guys were into. I had an unusual role during thr Falklands but PM me and we can discuss if an interview of interest? cheers
@@Rokaize At the time I was a bit annoyed, as it was a completely unnecessary war, but it was forty years ago and time and maturity have made they mark and lessened the impact. As a medic it helped me to write a book about it [the band that went to war] and having taken the Argentines home after the war on my ship, some of the Argentine POW's have recently been in touch and thanked me for the way they were treated.
@@Drummer2020 well the average Argentinian soldier or pilot has no say in the war they fought. Same as you all on the British side. I would say the pilots of theirs were very skilled and brave for sure so I can see how you’d think that
Although Spanish is Argentina's official language, a minority of 17% of the population, do in fact speak French... The Franco-Argentinos, whom have partial or full french ancestry. That is according to Wikipedia. GR are all inclusive 😉
Great work Cap!! and what a day to share it! As an argie it was fun to see! It's not a negative critic to the video but in Malvinas/Falkands argies flyed REALLY low, and in DCS it's really a challenge and so fun to fly under 10 meters and strike a Ticonderoga Class. Take care you and your team. Respect from Argentina!
Just for the record - the reason they were flying so low was to avoid radar - if they'd flown higher to let the bombs fuse they'd have been engaged by SAMs (and some were).
Yes. They knew to fly low as in 1975 Argentina had purchased 2 x Type 42 Destroyers of their own. They knew the Radars and the Sea Dart Missiles weaknesses. The only reason why Sea Dart got as many kills as it did was because HMS Exeter was a Batch 2 Type 42 with Type 1022 Radar which was far superior to the Type 965 AKE 2 that the First batch had (Type 965 was used on RN ships from the early 1960s including Type 42s predecessor the County Class Destroyer) and could detect Aircraft flying low over sea/land. This proved to be one of the Causes for HMS Coventry sinking as she couldn't detect the incoming threat until they were much closer than they could have got in open ocean. HMS Exeter gained about half of all Sea Dart Kills
Mirage3EA used R550 magic1, and Mirage5(nesher/dagger) used Shaffir IR missiles, usually they commited decoy missions, fly low at subsonic speed just like the A4, when the harriers caps go after them they scramble at supersonic speed, and the real a4 had a little more chance of attacking without being intercepted, in other cases the mirage5 were armed with 4 bombs and attacked ships PD: the players were flying way to high, but I dont know if it would make any diference in DCS anyway
If you want an argie accent you need to say "boludo" in every sentence. And a couple "pelotudo" inbetween. [EDIT] Argies don't sound like French There are no Jacques in Argie. They sound Italian (at least the Rioplatense variant of Argie).
@@LogieT2K The ethnic of Argentina its very complex. In a very large country lives a mix of south americans pre spanish, the mix between those, and the italian, german, french and eastern europe inmigrants (the origin of one of the myths: the argentinian girls bla bla bla). But mostly we sound -speaking, and im talking about the large cities- like as italians, and i am an argie son from a italian/french and serbians. A beauiful mess for christmas.
@@grimreapers I don't think you'll find. That was one of the issues FAA had. They didn't have snakeyes. They mostly dropped mk17 slicks, and as they had to jump the boat, they configured the b9bms to explode later. That's why many of them actually didn't explode. It was what they had... But not the right bomb for a low level drop. But they couldn't go any higher cause of the long and mid range radars and missiles (sea dart and I don't remember the medium one)
Have you read “The Black Death - sea harriers over the Falklands” by Commander ‘Sharkey’ Ward? He has some scathing criticism of how the admiralty refused to accept the true capability of the sea harrier and its radar to protect the fleet.
@@tonypepperoni3679 he makes numerous claims to the point that the admiralty had no faith in the SHAR CAP patrols, putting all their faith in the sea-dart missile screen, and because they never believed in the CAP, they frequently redirected, or called off the CAP or insisted they do bombing instead, making the CAP’s failure to protect the fleet a self-for filling prophecy. He believes the SHAR was badly mishandled and under utilized by the flag structure, hamstringing the pilots. They could have been FAR more effective in his opinion.
@@tonypepperoni3679 try and find the book - worth a read - obviously it’s up to us whether we believe him, the official view of the RN is he’s wrong! But it’s interesting as he also give highly detailed accounts of his engagements.
@@tonypepperoni3679 here is the publisher’s blurb: This intriguing book takes you to war in the cockpit of a fighter aircraft. It is more than an authoritative, first-hand and detailed account of the air war in the Falklands, 1982. Indeed, it is a real life and very exciting adventure story in which the author ‘calls a spade a spade’; revealing both the successes and the failures of the British air campaign. The reader will gain an intimate insight into the persona of the Royal Navy fighter pilot which differs vastly from that of his RAF peers. That persona is aggressive, completely dedicated, thoroughly professional and pays no regard to “Crew duty times”. As a fully integrated part of the Naval Service, it achieves continued success in combat and has done so on behalf of the British public for the last 100 years of British carrier operations overseas. Sharkey Ward commanded 801 Naval Air Squadron, HMS Invincible, during the Falklands War of April to June 1982 and was senior Sea Harrier adviser to the Command on the tactics, direction and progress of the air war. He flew over sixty war missions, achieved three air-to-air kills and took part in or witnessed a total of ten kills; he was also the leading night pilot and was decorated with the Distinguished Service Cross for gallantry. Those are the bare facts, though they do no sort of justice to this remarkable and outspoken book, nor to its author. For what, after all, could twenty Sea Harriers, operating from a flight-deck bucketing about in the South Atlantic, do against more than 200 Argentine military aircraft flown by pilots who, as the raids against British shipping proved, displayed enormous skill and gallantry? The world knows the answer now; as it knows the debt owed to the author and his fellow flyers. What is puzzling, therefore, is this book's truthful depiction of the attitudes of some of the senior non-flying naval officers and of the RAF towards the men (and indeed the machine) that made possible the victory in the Falklands. This extraordinary first-hand account charts the naval pilots' journey to the South Atlantic in clear and forthright detail and how they took on and triumphantly conquered the challenges they faced. It is a dramatic story, leavened with brilliant accounts of air-to-air fighting and of life in a squadron at sea and on a war footing. But it is also a tale of inter-Service rivalry, bureaucratic interference and the less-than-generous attitudes of a number of senior commanders who should certainly have known better; indeed, some of them might even have lost the campaign through a lack of understanding of air warfare- particularly if all their instructions had been followed to the letter and without question. The author puts the record straight.
The interesting thing here for me was to hear the "17-year-old gunners" in the footage. I remember reading WW2 books and people were complaining about the Germans who used kids of the same age during the Battle for Normandy. Anyway, another good video! It was fun to watch. Can't wait to get a copy of DCS and start playing.
Great job! I seem to remember one Skyhawk pilot shouting 'Viva La Patria' on the run in on some cockpit camera video. I doubt that these guys had French access lol - may the Super Etendard pilots with their French Exocets did though:)
great video guys! respect from Argentina :), i think the frigates have Sea Cat & Sea Dart misiles also, so yea was a hell out there for our pilots, but until today they are remember with really proud for us. Here you have some real audio for Argentina pilots on that fight, if you want to know "how they talk and our accent xD" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dkFGvOcLQEM.html
