Kansas City Royals at Toronto Blue Jays in Game 7 of the 1985 American League Championship Series. This is a Fox Sports Net replay of the original NBC broadcast.
Damn. I can't believe we lost both our Dominican all-star middle infielders Tony Fernandez and Damaso Garcia in 2020 . They will be forever remembered in the lore of early Blue Jays baseball. Thanks for the great memories. RIP #1 & #7.
Huge mistake by Toronto leaving Stieb in so long top of the 6th. He was tired and that was obvious after he hit a batter. He was on his second start on 3 days rest.
Stieb did everything that he could. You could see him tiring out as Game 7 went on. He battled...boy did he battle...but his arm angle was going lower and lower and he wasn't getting the break or the velocity that he needed.
Kerry Graham yeah seeing how devastated he was after giving up that home run to Puckett in Game 6 of '91, even as a Twins fan I was glad that he had already won a World Series before. When you know the tragedy of Donnie Moore when it comes to blowing big games......Leibrandt seemed to have his head on straight though even after two later career World Series failures with Atlanta. From what I read, he had a pretty wholesome retirement mostly coaching his sons' high school teams. Can't beat that...
One of the most exciting series in Blue Jays history. That game 7 loss to the Royals may be sad, but it was just the beginning. As Dorothy said, "There's no place like home"... excitedly.
This was the first year that the ALCS became a best 4 out of 7 series (prior to this it was a best of 5 series). It's too bad for the Blue Jays as they had a 3 games to 1 lead in this series and in any other year prior to this they would have advanced to the World Series
Dave Stieb was a talented pitcher that could pitch a clinic on off speed pitches. Toronto was beginning to show something special with the talent in 1985 that was beginning for the franchise. For Kansas City, another great comeback, albeit controversial in game six against the Cardinals would conclude in a well deserved World Series Championship in 1985.
i prefer best of 5 series than best of 7, because in best of 5 series every game is a series-changer. There is pressure from the very first game. Theres really no pressure in games 1 and 2 of a 7 game series.
@@hmhm856 you are correct. From a purest standpoint, that was the way it was supposed to be when they instituted an actual playoff in 1969 by splitting leagues into two divisions. Then they said virtually "Hey, let's have a 5 game series, first two at (team x's home park) then next 3 at (team y's home park) and first to 3 wins." It also lowered the odds against a team getting to play in the post season thus keeping that "must finish first" element in tact. I sure remember that Phillies-Astros series in 1980. But hearing Costas call a game seven just applied some prestiege into such a special occiasion
Bobby Cox had a career record of 67-69 in the post-season. Series record: 6-6 in the Wild Card Round, 5-5 in the League Championship Series, 1-4 in the World Series. 12-15 overall in 16 trips to the post-season. One time a Cox-managed team avoided disappointment. In elimination games where his team could advance or win a championship, his team was 12-12. His legacy is sealed as a Hall of Fame level coach. Deservedly. The playoff disappointments are real as well.
He got a lot out of some non-YANKEE talented teams.. Who was a better manager= HOWSER 8-15= 0-3 in special '81 split season divisional, 4-9 in the ALCS, or 4-3 in the W. SERIES with three and a half('81) division pennants, one league pennant.or.. COX= won 14 divisions(15 divisions= Toronto in '85= overall) in a row, if '94 is not counted. He won SIX NATIONAL LEAGUE PENNANTS. He was 1-5 in the W. Series, but look who they played= YANKEES TWICE, A BLUE JAY club under GASTON that WON BACK TO BACK, AND A TWINS team that because of the old alternation, played THE 7TH.GAME= where they rarely lost, even in that SERIES= 0 losses, in the METRODOME and they had to walk off both games= 6&7. IT WAS THE TWINS SECOND TITLE IN FOUR YEARS..ATLANTA was last in the NL WEST in '90. Here is who the ATL. beat in the N.L.series = a BARRY BONDS- LED PITT. club managed by LELAND = TWICE; AND FOUR OTHER TEAMS.. that is 40 percent of the N.L.'s clubs. They lost in the playoffs ONLY twice in the new divisional round, losing both to HOUSTON with PETTITTE, AND CLEMENS& OSWALT..HALL POSIT. PLAYERS BAGWELL AND BIGGIO; one of the games was an 18 inning road loss..IN THE '01 NLCS, THEY LOST TO RANDY JOHNSON AND CURT SCHILLING with ARIZ. He lost to PHILLY with SCHILLING IN '93 IN THE NLCS. Since COX has left, that club has barely made the playoffs and has yet to win any series.. I am a ROYALS fan, and I know SCHUERHOLZ was a HALL GUY AT G.M., AND SO WAS GILLICK(ATL&TORO), KC'S G.M.=DAYTON MOORE AS ATL. SCOUTING DIR. AND LATER ASST. G.M...But, COX provided the managing of a variety of lineups. It isn't that simple. He made it look easy. Yes, they had GLAVINE, AND SMOLTZ, AND MADDUX and for a few years AVERY, AND LEIBRANDT. But, they had a new starting nine, except for Chipper, every three or four years, a lot of different outfielders. Give his postseason mark a second look. Maddux was a mediocre postseason pitcher, too. R.I.P. DICK HOWSER gone too soon in '86 due to brain cancer..
The Blue Jays SHOULD have advanced to the WS in 1985, being up 3-1 in games, and I put a good part of the blame on Bobby Cox. The Jays had no answer to George Brett, and he should have been walked many more times than he actually was, regardless of the the situation. I'd have walked him bases empty or bases loaded.
@@travismcdonald6576 Most Yankees stepped up in October. The Braves players didn't have the same magic. Pettitte was better than Maddux in October etc. The Braves didn't have a choking character, they just had a few bad matchups. They lost twice to a special Yankee group that was almost impossible to beat in October. They failed to reach the WS in 93 because the Phillies had their number. The 91 WS came down to HFA and the Metrodome. None of that was Bobby Cox's fault.
2:30:43. Anyone know the melody playing while Bob Costas narrates the events of that ALCS? It was also used during NBC’s pregame coverage of the MLB ASG in 1989.
Well said Pat. 1985 was quite a year. Also, I will always say that 1987 was the best Blue Jays team. Tough ending to both seasons but a thank you to them all.
@ 1:21:22... This would be the last game Al Oliver ever played in. Maybe he had a premonition that it was the last time he would ever bat in the Major Leagues with all the complaining he was doing because he was pinch hit for. Oliver retired a .303 career hitter with 2,743 career hits. He batted .300 or better 11 times in his career. And by the way, Oliver was a .319 career hitter versus right handers, but just a .269 hitter in his career versus left handers. So, the move made perfect sense despite Cliff Johnson striking out.
Cox lived and died by the platoon and wasn't going to play counterintuitive hunches. But Oliver had made his plate appearances count in that series, so outside of knowing his career was likely ending, he was also likely mad he wasn't given a chance to replicate his Game 2 and Game 4 heroics.
It was a shame the hot hitting Oliver was taken out with a chance to take the lead in a GAME SEVEN win or take all. Ironically, Toronto had some bad luck in the deciding 2015 GAME 6 with a bad strike call. I forget the name of the Blue Jay but he went into the dugout and threw a tantrum, just like Oliver had done exactly 30 years before..Toronto basically got 2 WS appearances stolen from them.
@@erichaynes7502, I counted several bad strike calls that favored Toronto and KC. Its baseball..live with it. I doubt it in '85, but in 2015 the ROYALS had computer charted and graphed each umpire's strike zone tendencies, and that paid off in the ninth IN GM. 6 IN THE ALCS when WADE DAVIS got a strike call on a ball way outside to BEN REVERE to put the latter even up at 1 and 1..instead of going to 2 and o with two on base and one or no outs. Sure enough, DAVIS bailed himself out of a jam with an eventual strikeout of Revere on a wicked inside breaking pitch. REVERE went nuts in the dugout after that K. Of course, in the fifth game KC's Ed. VOLQUEZ got absolutely screwed by the umpire who did not know that a strike could be called above the belt, letters high. But, once again, that is just part of the game= how do you as a hitter adjust to bad calls, and how does the pitcher take advantage of the strikezone that is given?.. Its the essence of the hitter v. pitcher.. game. Stop your complaining. By the way, your manager in '15 J.Gibbons blew that series when he let the B.JAYS party and celebrate and not play the next game, first of a doubledip vs. BALT., after y'all clinched the A.L. EAST pennant, and.. when he let Mark Buehrle try to set an MLB record of 15 straight seasons of at least 15 pitching wins. TBAY at home was having none of that as they bombed him in the second inning, ending his quest on the final day of the regular season. Coupled with KC's win that same day, and you guys lost homefield to us despite the fact that you beat us in the season's series 4w-3w(if we tied won-loss, you had homefield)..KC 95W- TBJ-93W...Gibbons blew it..We won the first two in KC, and you were toast after that. We won in six..and then beat the NY METS in five for the WCh.TITLE..
I looked it up... and Johnson hit .330 in over 100 AB vs LHP in 1985, while Al Oliver was just 8 for 35 .229 vs LHP in '85. So you can second guess Cox for taking out the hot hitter Oliver, but the numbers were all in favor of Johnson which I'm sure Cox was well aware of. Also, Johnson was 7 for 17 .429 in this ALCS going into that AB. I'm not a Bobby Cox fan at all, but I can understand why he lifted Oliver in favor of Johnson.
Bobby Cox made a poor decision in going with a 3-man starting rotation. He should have added Jim Clancy and gone with a 4 man rotation. As it turned out, Stieb had nothing left in the tank in Game 7.
George Brett would have loved it if Cox added Jim Clancy to the Toronto rotation. In his career, Brett hit .443/.511/.810 against Clancy in 90 plate appearances. Brett had a career record against Doyle Alexander, who gave up three home runs to Brett in this Series, of .382/.444/.789 in 92 plate appearances.
This was the year that they changed the playoff format to 7 games from 5. If they kept it had 5 the Jays would have had it ( they were up 3 games to 2)) I was also at this game in 1985.
Yep, but KC only played great when they had to. If it had been best of 5, they would have still won it because they could turn it on and off that season, when they had to do that. California was tied for the lead coming in for a four-game series. They led the division most of the season. We beat them 3 of 4 and won by two games.. Both TOR AND STL had 3-1 leads, and we went 6-0 after that. And, in game six OF THE W.SERIES, FRANK WHITE tried to steal second in the eight inning, and was called out, when replay showed he beat the throw. PAT SHERIDAN then singled into the outfield where White could've easily scored. So, Denkinger's goof at 1st. base in the 9th on J. ORTA's play= was justice.. And, as for the ALCS, you guys had a 3 to 1 lead, with two of the last three in TORONTO.. What happened?
@Fries yup very much well remember. The first two games of the World Series was Tuesday and Wednesday is night in San Diego, that would have been moved to Detroit because they had lights. The Friday through Sunday games would have been at Wrigley for day games. At that point during the week games were played at night to accommodate national tv
Bobby Cox should have gone with a 4 man rotation. Jim Clancy was more than capable as a 4th starter. The decision to go with a 3 man rotation took it's toll on Stieb in the 7th game and cost the Jays the series.
Jim Clancy? As the 4th starter?? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Check his 1985 numbers and tell us whether or not he was more than capable in comparison to the ALCS starters for the Jays. Yeah, right. The decision to sit Jim Clancy is the reason the Jays lost the series.
@@jamesanthony5681 In 1985, Jim Clancy was 9-6 with an ERA of 3.78 ERA, and WHIP of 1.197. For a #4 starter, that's pretty good. Most importantly, it would have kept the rotation FRESH!! Dave Stieb had nothing left in the tank by Game 7, as you can plainly see here.
@@leafyutube Trent Frayne (good sportswriter) wrote in the Globe and Mail, "Dave Steib never won a game of real consequence as a Blue Jay." That's a little harsh, but there's some truth in that. He should have been taken out much earlier by Cox. Jim Clancy was an innings eater, but I recall George Brett KILLED Clancy (and other Jay pitchers) in the 80's. Had I been Cox, I would have instructed the pitchers NOT to give him anything to hit. If they needed to walk him - even with men on base - then so be it. I wasn't unhappy to see Cox leave for Atlanta at the end of the year.
@@jamesanthony5681 Stieb was excellent in Games 1 and 4. As I said, he was out of gas by game 7. That's my point! With a 4 man rotation, Game 7 would have been a fresh Doyle Alexander, rather than a tired Stieb.
@@leafyutube I don't want to get into an argument, but he shouldn't have been tired. He was frustrated, that's clear. If you look at Stieb's history, he was usually the front runner for the AL Cy Young by the all-star break, pitching lights out with a record of 10-2, 11-4, 12-4, or something similar; but in July and August he couldn't buy a win when the Jays really needed it, finishing strong in September when they were out of the race. He never won 20 games and there's a reason for that.
When ABC got half of the baseball contract in 1976 NBC had the All Star Game and LCS in odd numbered years. NBC also had rights to any divisional tie breakers in off number years but the only two tie breakers in that era were in even numbered years(1978 and 1980) so ABC broadcast both of those. That included the famous 1978 AL East tie breaker
Never saw the original broadcast of this game because in Minnesota this was the final week of the High School Football season and in normal years that last game is played on a Wednesday night for two reasons. One is due to the teachers convention held at that time. The other reason is due to playoffs starting the next Tuesday night.
Colder weather causes you guys to end HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL earlier than we do in Texas. We end the reg.season on the second Friday or Saturday in Nov., unless Nov. has only four Fridays/ Saturdays, then we sometimes end on the first Friday or Saturday in Nov., especially, if it comes later in the first week. Of course, our playoffs are six rounds long. Are your's four or five? Our playoff games are played in the earlier rounds either on Fridays, with Thursday's for a few, and Saturdays. Later, most are on Friday and Saturday nites, with just a few smaller schools playing the state semis on Thursdays. Our UIL STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS for mostly public schools, a few privates, two big religious privates, and charter schools, is/are at a single site at JERRYJONES WORLD(AT&T STADIUM in Arlington, TX.) where the DALLAS Cowboys play, with smaller schools including the two divisions of CLASS A= six-man playing on Wednesday morn. and afternoon, after a week and a half off for them. They only play five rounds total in their playoffs. Then begin the 11-man games..CLASS AA plays one of their divisions' rounds that Wednesday nite after the six-man DIV.1&2's two games. Then on Thursday, three games, one from the other AA division, and two from the AAA divisions, are played. Friday, three games, two from AAAA, and one from 5A are played, and then Saturday, three more, one from the other 5A division, and two from the biggest schools 6A, to conclude it. The STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS have finished as early as DEC. 17th, and as late as DEC.22ND.. There is a couple from Minnesota who always come down to see it, too.. Our other associations made up from mostly private and religious private schools, have their titles decided by the first or second weekend in December at other locations..
@@paulsonj72, since your playoffs begin in October, when do you start your regular season? We start ours on the last weekend(Thursday for some, Friday for most, or Saturday for some) in August. Our UIL(UNIVERSITY INTERSCHOLASTIC LEAGUE, an academic contests and sports, administrative body supported by the public's taxes and ran out of the community services office of the U.Tex. in Austin since 1910, State Championship Sports since 1920) teams play nine(few 11-man teams who for whatever reason cannot get scheduling for a 10th game done or had a non-district game postponed due to weather, and a few 6-man teams who may have their opponent not big enough in enrollment that year to field a team, play nine.) or ten games for most 11-man teams/many or most six-man teams, with one week off during the season..
@@robertsprouse9282 Labor Day weekend is when we start our season(except in 2015) when there was no Metro Dome and there was a conflict with TCF Bank Stadium. That year the season started two weeks before Labor Day and finished in Mid November. Had nothing to do with potently cold weather though
Ah, the 1985 ALCS, Blue Jays vs Royals. Brett KILLED the Jays in the series (MVP, with 3 Hr's, 5 RBI's), as he had done against Toronto many times in the past. In that series, I would have walked Brett regardless of the situation: bases empty or loaded. George had 30 PA's, and had I been Cox, I would have walked him at least 15 times. Easily.
This was pretty much the Royals swan song in terms of AL west dominance. Soon after, Minnesota and Oakland would dominate the division. Pretty fitting, Royals deserved to win one after years of short comings.
HOWSER died of brain cancer in '86. The team did not have the young pitchers fulfill their promise in '86-88, with only SABERHAGEN before he left town, getting his Second Cy. Gubicza later won 20 for the ANGELS and then injuries ended it for him. JACKSON had two big years away from KC including like SABERHAGEN a 23 win CY year, but injuries bit him, as well. In '89 led by BO JAX., KC won 91 games finishing with the second best record in Baseball, but OAKLAND in our division won 92 or 93 and won the W. SERIES, AND THERE WAS NO W.CARD THEN.. From that point after '89, SABERHAGEN left for the METS and more money, GOOBY went to CALIF., DAN JAX WENT TO CINCY, BUD BLACK faded out of the game. Tom Gordon came on with 17w's in his rookie year, but never duplicated that, eventually going to the BOSOX and into their pen as a closer. Bo was hurt playing in the NFL. THE MONEY GOT BIGGER and big markets got richer with local ad dollars and separated from smaller ones. G. BRETT retired in '93. HAL McRAE managed us to 74 wins in 144 games in strike delayed '95, but after that it was not until TONY PENA in '03 led us to a seven game lead at the ALL STAR BREAK, only to watch it fizzle out into only an 83 win third place finish that season. TONY MUSER, TREY HILLMAN, BOB BOONE, BUDDY BELL all washed out as our managers as DAVID GLASS just pinched pennies and went cheap and young after his over the hill free agents busted. Then, in '08, they hired DAYTON MOORE FROM ATL. where he had been scouting director and later ASST. G.M. HE HIRED NED YOST IN '09..I THINK. And five years later we won 86 in '13, 89 AND WCARD#1 in '14 and the AL PENNANT, AND THEN THE DIVISION, THE A.L. AND THE WHOLE THING IN '15. In '16, VENTURA could not compose himself on the mound and slipped. We went .500 as trade pickup Melky Cabrera was a bust. RELIEF ACE GREG HOLLAND WAS OUT FOR THE SEASON. We finished sixth out of 15 clubs in the A.L. Then= 80-82 without HOLLAND OR WADE DAVIS(to the CUBS) in '17= 11th. out of 15 as VENTURA determined to come back stronger, died in a car wreck before the season. Then, CAIN AND HOSMER LEFT, EDDIE VOLQUEZ injured left, and MOOSE left in the middle of '18. None of the younger pitchers panned out. KELVIN HERRERA got hurt, and left in a trade, and the team went young. HUNTER DOZIER, RYAN O'HEARN, & ADALBERTO(RAUL JR.) MONDESI when healthy.. ALC.ESCOBAR stunk and was released. SOLER who came in the W. DAVIS trade, started to improve and then got hurt. IN '19, O'HEARN slumped, DOZIER came to life, MONDESI was hurt, LOPEZ came up at second and looked good for awhile. ALEX GORDON after signing the big '16 contract when ZOBRIST went to CHICUBS, finally had for him, a decent offensive year, first in four years. WORD came that mid relief ace LUKE HOCHEVAR was finished in MLB in '19 after the injury in 2016, but SOLER EXPLODED with A.L. TITLE= 48 homers, NEW CLUB RECORD. SAL PEREZ in '18 after a career '17 year, had a freak luggage handling injury and missed most of the first half of the season. He then missed all of '19 from a SPRING TRAINING INJURY, and is back for '20 when or if that ever starts. In the drafts of 2017, and '18 we drafted six terrific young pitchers, BRADY SINGER leading the crew. They will be hopefully be heard from soon, and we got MIKE MONTGOMERY BACK from the CUBS. The jury FOR MM is still out. That is what happened.. But, we are coming back to contend in a couple of years.. I hope. Hell, I forgot WHIT..THE MVP IN 2019..BY FAR..
@@robertsprouse9282 You definitely know your Royals history..I'd like to add that Kauffman went for the big enchilada in 1990 by signing Mark and Storm Davis to hefty contracts. Unfortunately neither worked out as planned and KC's 90's and 00's were mostly bleak.
1:23:04 Is it me or does Cliff Johnson's bat look corked? Doesn't look like a traditional cup at the end of the bat. Also, look at the way the bat ends lengthwise. Looks sawed off. Well, it did not help Heathcliff. He had exactly one extra-base hit upon being acquired in August 1985. One regular season home run. That's all.
You can certainly tell most of the players weren't on steroids back in 85. And let's don't forget how great of an announcer Tony Kubek was..he quit everything associated with MLB when the strike hit in 1994.
I was at this game and this big cop was standing on home plate so nobody would steal it surrounded by 10 security guards and about 5 of us ran and slid home. :)
People say that the Blue Jays choked, but that’s just not true. The Blue Jays actually did a pretty good job with fundamentals like moving base runners and defense, arguably outplaying the Royals. It’s just that the Royals were well stocked with quality left handed pitching and the Jays struggled all year against south paws.
The jays had the second best record that year vs LHP 32-27 only the Yankees had a better record vs LHP. And their OPS was a few percentage points lower vs LHP .742 -.765 vs RHP. They choked.
I don't look at it so much as "they choked" as they rode a lightning bolt and it threw them off starting in Game 5 combined with the fact they had no answer to George Brett. They didn't hit all that great in Inn 1-8 of Game 4 and still won, plus half of their runs in their Game 2 win were unearned. The latter wasn't about to repeat itself and it was Stieb keeping them in it that won them Game 4. The Royals were much more decisively better than the Jays in Games 5-7 than the Jays were better than the Royals in Games 1-4; if that makes any sense.
And the crazy thing is, 30 years later, the exact same thing almost happened in reverse (meaning, the Blue Jays almost came back from 3-1 down), but the Royals had to spoil that blue heaven.
No, you were down 2w-0, and 3-1, before losing at KC in the sixth game. They squeezed the hell out of VOLQUEZ with that belt to knees strikezone in game five or it may have ended sooner. But, TBJ MGR. GIBBONS blew homefield that season. He let the players party after they won the EAST, did not play them against terrible Baltimore in the first game of a doubleheader, and played only part of his starters in game two and you lost game one. Then on the last day, ONE GAME BEHIND KC for homefield, GIBBONS let washed up MARK BUEHRLE a pitcher who was not even going to be on your postseason roster, go for the record of 15 games won for 15 straight seasons, at TAMPA BAY and pitching on 2 or 3 days rest, he was bombed in the second inning for some ungodly number.. uhh..8-11 runs..and with KC 's win that day...We beat you by two games, when before you clinched the East, you had a two game lead at the beginning of the final week. He blew it. You lost the first two in KC, one, game two you led after six innings, and that was it. You split the next four. You had the season tiebreak 4w-3w, and yet you acted like, GIBBONS acted like, he could have cared a whit about homefield. Are you kidding? 95w-93w KCR over TBJ..when you had a two game lead on Monday!! Even with a tie the Jays get homefield that season.. Ewell Gibbons could have done better with wild hickory nuts up his arse. Anyone who hires GIBBONS to be their manager, should have to french kiss a GIBBON MONKEY.
Yes, St.Louis without Coleman may have lost again in seven, or won in six. Cardiacs only hit .160 something that W. Series and that was with Tito Landrum filling in for COLEMAN who was only a .260 hitter, with Tito hitting almost .400..
Although I'm not of fan of either the Royals of Cardinals they Royals should cherish the '85 WS but by no means did they win it on the field. The WS was over after the 6th game. The Cardinals still should be issued rings for that year.
How is that? You don't remember Frank White stealing second but being called out in the 4th. He would have scored on a single in the next AB in a scoreless game. The Royals had 10 hits that game, the Cardinals 5. The Royals outplayed the Cardinals the whole world series, hitting and pitching. They earned it.
Thomas Linski you have a point. Other than the fact the the Royals outhit the Cardinals in all seven games, or that the Cards as a team hit below .200 for the series, or the fact that as one poster mentioned, Frank White was safe on a steal attempt but was called out, George Brett was called out on a ball four way out of the strike zone, the fact that the Royals would have won game two if Howser had gone to Qusienberry, or the fact that orca was called safe on a very close play. Ah, Orta. Not the winning run but only the tying run. Of course the ball that dropped harmlessly between porter and Clark in that inning, the wild pitch by Worrell, the intentional walk in which the next hitter hit a ground ball in the hole, field by Ozzie, and Ozzie went to...say it with me...third base. Who was thrown out at third? Yeah, that would be Jorge Orta, the guy called safe at first to start the rally. So, hate to burst your bubble he never scored and was eventually out. Oh and who did the Royals send to the plate to pinch hit, one out, bases loaded, if Cards turn a double play they win the game and then series? Oh, yeah, that was former Cardinal Dane Iorg. The .190 hitting Dane Iorg. The no power whatsoever Dane Iorg. And whose fault is it the Cards outfield was playing way too deep for Iorg? The would be Whitey Herzog, who set the defense. So what happens? What does a light hitting pinch hitter do? A bloop single that falls in front of everyone, allowing not one but two runs to score. All of the is nobody's fault ben the Cards. And whose fault is it that the Cards had John Tudor in game 7 going against the American League Cy Young award winner? Again, Whitey's fault. Howser had his starers lined up better than Herzog. And in case you don't know your baseball history, few if anyone in baseball history is worse than Whitey herzog in a deciding game. 1976 and 1977 ALCS herzog's Royals lost the final game. '85 and '87 Cardinals lost in a final game 7. They won game 7 in '82, but seriously, the guy had no idea on how to put a team away. Blame absolutely nobody but Whitey Herzog and the St Louis Cardinals for not showing up in game seven, embarrassing themselves login 11-0 with Herzog and two players getting ejected. Maybe think of how stupid all that was.
B.S.. in the 4th inning of that game six, Frank White was called out at second on a steal attempt. The replay showed he was safe. Pat Sheridan who did zip in that Series, without anyone on base, singled deeply into the outfield right after that. White should have scored but the ump blew the call. Which makes Denkinger's blown call at first in the 9th.= justice.. Besides, your non-heroes had only a man on first to deal with, with your non-team's new young hotshot undefeated sub 3.00 E.R.A. closer on the mound and even if Denkinger calls Orta out, the rest of the inning still produced no third out. Balboni actually was hurt by Ozzie S. at double play depth with Orta at first, and barely singled past him. Whereas, Ozzie would have played back and would have never come close to slowfooted Balboni's basehit if no one was on base. Before that single, Jack Clark with no one on base would have still either blown or not caught the foul popup by Balboni at the screen as it was a simple play and he would have had time as he actually did, to make the play whether he was holding a runner at first on, or with no one on, coming from down the line behind the bag. He was closer than Porter your non-team's catcher and it was a very high popup. So, that is an unforced error. It should have been caught. Then came the sacrifice attempt which our batter Sundberg with no one on second base would not have had to drop down. He bunted it too hard to the pitcher Worrell who threw out ORTA on a force at third. Again, Sundberg who reached on a fielder's choice does not sacrifice if Orta was out at first because it would set up a possible doubleplay of Sundberg and Balboni's pinch runner O.Concepcion. He would swing away instead. Then another unforced snafu, a passed ball by Porter moved pinch runner Concepcion running for Balboni to third and Sundberg to second. Then, McRAE with first base open gets intentionally walked. Backing the game up, if Sundberg had no one but Balboni's pinch runner O. Concepcion on first base off of the passed ball, Sunny goes for an extra base hit or a deep single to score the swift Concepcion on the move from first, but does not sacrifice in an attempt to move Orta to third if Orta is not on base, and remember, Sunny had a huge hit vs. Toronto in game 7 to blow that open for KC. He was a very good postseason clutch hitter..Even if he just singled, that would move the runner O. Concepcion to second base. Meanwhile... Orta's forceout on Sunny's bunt gave you your non-fave team's(?)out back. After the passed ball, with first base open, McRae still gets intentionally walked with one out. Dane Iorg pinching for Biancalana even if Orta was called out at first earlier, still singles TYING THE GAME(no really winning it with White's 4th inning run)with one out. Unless you can guarantee that Sunny before would have grounded out or into a doubleplay without trying to sacrifice... and if Orta was called correctly out at first with Concepcion at first after BALBONI's hit, Sunny would not have tried to lift the ball to the outfield, and Concepcion would not have been on the move on the pitch to avoid an infield doubleplay anyway even with a Sunny sacrifice bunt, then you have no case, non-Cards fan(?). Wilson, and Brett were coming up in the 10th, and so was White. You had no guarantee either to get out of that ninth inning just tied even with Orta out. Stew on it. Even with Landrum hitting much better, close to .400 in the W. SERIES, than an injured by a motorized tarproll V.COLEMAN, a .260 hitter that year when healthy, your non-fave club(?) still only hit around .160..one of the worst marks in Series history, especially so for seven gamers. Your non-heroes blew a popup, had a passed ball, and had your non-heroes' undefeated closer give up two legit singles in the ninth inning. And, your non-faves should have been tied after eight as White's run in the 4th. was wiped out due to a bad call. Your non-faves(?) lost..get over it, non-Cardsfan(?).. Justice prevailed. If your non-favorite team(?) cannot get their butts up for game seven because they think they got screwed in game six, which they didn't, they did not have championship mettle to begin with. Do their fans 35 years later? Your non-favorite team lost..11-0 in game 7, you, errr, they blew it. Get over it you non-fan(?)lol...
@@robertsprouse9282 I have to add that ex-Royal Porter caused his own passed ball because he mistakenly gave the wrong sign by pushing his glasses further up his nose with his index finger, confusing the pitcher.
