Wow, this has to be one of the top few races of all time. Easy Goer and Sunday Silence were both as unyielding, willful, tenacious, unwavering, and as fierce as can be. Neither gave way in this absolutely fantabulous battle. The heart of two champions on full display. Spellbinding.
+sl7293 There are many ways a person can put it. You can put it that way. You can also put it this way: Easy Goer lost the Preakness by a nose to Sunday Silence, or Sunday Silence won by a nose over Easy Goer. The same way that others won or lost by a nose. You can also put it another way: Easy Goer's nose "yielded and gave way" and he lost by a nose. The same way that others nose's "yielded and gave way" when losing by a nose. You can also put it this way: Both Easy Goer and Sunday Silence were unyielding, willful, fierce, tenacious and unwavering, while Sunday Silence won the nose-bob and got his nose on the wire inches ahead of Easy Goer. Much the same way that Exceller and Seattle Slew were unyielding, willful, fierce, tenacious and unwavering in the Jockey Club, while Exceller won the nose-bob and got his nose on the wire inches ahead of Slew. Much the same way Jaipur and Ridan, Victory Gallop and Real Quiet in the Belmont, Dark Star and Native Dancer in the Derby, Gun Bow and Kelso in the Woodward, Mr. Right and Damascus in the Woodward, Fort Marcy and Damascus in the DC Int'l, Majestic Prince and Arts and Letters, Blame and Zenyatta, Tomy Lee and Sword Dancer, Foolish Pleasure and Forego, Forty Niner and Seeking the Gold, Akureyri and Pleasant Colony, Precisionist and Greinton, Skip Away and Cigar, Meadow Star and Lite Light in the Mother of all Gooses Mother Goose, Fraise and Sky Classic, Noor and Citation in the San Juan, Rosemont and Seabiscuit in the Big Cap, and many others were unyielding, willful, fierce, tenacious and unwavering in nose to nose battles and or races decided by a nose.
140 years and we cann't get a better race than this between two truly outstanding champions. Joe Hirsch - "A classic classic! Everyone will remember the 1989 Preakness and its remarkable stretch duel as long as they live. Sunday Silence and Easy Goer were generosity personified as they battled. No quality of the Thoroughbred is more admired by racing men than courage, and these two outstanding horses gave everything they had in the Preakness. There was a winner, but there was no loser." "In a duel for the ages, the two greats joined battle, they bounded cheek by jowl to the wire. While picking up another cross on his reins, jockey Pat Day appeared to grab too much right line canting Easy Goer's head to the right, & in the end perhaps costing him the race by the flare of a nostril." - Bill Nack. "The two greats even changed leads in unison at the top of the stretch. They ran side by side, head to head, so close together they were brushing again & again, with Easy Goer also brushing the rail and dangerously close to it. A jewel of a duel by a snout."- Sports Illustrated
I have a feeling that if Easy Goer were trained by Whittingham and ridden by anyone else but Pat Day we would have had a triple crown winner that year.
Good for you, genuis...Shug was not known for putting speed into his horses and Pat Day was the most overrated jockey of his day...change the scenario and we have a triple crown winner...period...end of story...so shut the fuck up!
Unreal. These two overwhelmingly sensational champions, Easy Goer and Sunday Silence, each had the lead at about five or six different points in this race. Maybe more. Backstretch, second turn, top of the stretch, then through the home stretch a few times back and forth. It doesn't count, but after the finish line when the race was over, Easy Goer was back in front. That's breathtaking to have that many lead changes. What a race. Eight lengths is a big difference between a nose with each horse having the lead at five or six different points through the race, but a win is a win no matter the margin. It counts just the same. What a race between two sensational horses.
More Direct verbatim quotes of what Hovdey wrote in this same article: "Many studies done on Lasix have concluded that it makes horses run faster & enhances performance. Using many different methods to gauge how much faster horses run after being treated with Lasix, the studies found an improvement of about six to nine lengths at distances of a mile or farther. The drug Clenbuterol has a similar effect on the body as Epinephrine & Amphetamines by increasing the production of Epinephrine & Noradrenaline, & thus significantly enhancing performance. Clenbuterol also thins blood & widens the vessels that carry oxygen, so the volume of oxygen in the blood increases, which increases energy & improves performance. Clenbuterol is an extraordinary drug with two completely different effects that dramatically enhance performance, speed, stamina, endurance, lung capacity & energy levels. It greatly aids breathing by significantly expanding the air passages in the lungs letting air flow much more freely, & it dramatically reduces body fat by causing rapid fat burning. Clenbuterol performed miracles for horses who made inexplicable improvements with major enhancements in performance. The drugs Etorphine & Sublimaze are drugs that give horses such a sense of euphoria & well-being that they feel like they don’t have legs."
In Jay Hovdey's 2001 DRF article, Hovdey states, "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to TELL ME how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze and Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill described how he gave Northern Dancer Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964, affirming, 'I got a vet I knew from out of town to come along with me. I told him I was going to turn to the right, and would he go that way and take this little syringe down to barn 24, stall 23, and give this to that horse. There would be a guy there called Will. He'd be waiting. So he did it, while the gendarmes followed me.' " Hovdey also states that he quoted Harthill verbatim. Perhaps Hovdey's writing style is to mix it up using direct quotes, as well as making direct statements himself without quotes, but they are based on verbatim quotes. In this same Hovdey article on Harthill giving horses illegal performance enhancing drugs, Harthill is directly quoted verbatim declaring, "I was used more than any veterinarian in the country for horses pointing for, and running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS and had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses I helped with drugs in their careers. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, 'Don't get me caught, but keep me worried.' " Hovdey also declares in the article, "Other than Northern Dancer, Harthill confirmed that he gave Furosemide to other notable horses, including Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass and Master Derby. Harthill declared he regularly used illegal amphetamine and stimulant drugs, and gave illegal amphetamine and stimulant drugs to Decidedly, Iron Liege and Tim Tam. Aside from Sunday Silence, Harthill also asserted that he administered Clenbuterol, Sublimaze and Etorphine, to other top-tier horses Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall and Black Tie Affair. Harthill also proclaimed that he was proud that he inaugurated the use of Clenbuterol, and regularly used Clenbuterol in the 1980's and 1990's. Harthill also affirmed that a common practice of his was to inject illegal long-acting steroid drugs into the injured areas of horses he treated." What do all of these specific horses have in common? They won the Derby &/or Preakness, &/or they won the Breeders Cup Classic. “Basic logic” & "common sense" & "thinking logically" says you reach a conclusion WITH THE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE needed to back it up. Nothing more empirical, factual, verifiable, firsthand, seen & actual than the voluntary admissions of the banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Thinking logically, what race or races did Harthill give these horses illegal performance enhancing drugs? We can narrow it down, at the VERY LEAST, at the bare minimum, to 1, 2 or 3 choices/major races. Basic logic, common sense, & thinking logically would give you answers on what specific races, at the VERY LEAST, at the bare minimum, that Harthill gave all these horses the illegal performance enhancing drugs. We can narrow it down, at the VERY LEAST, at the bare minimum, to 1, 2 or 3 choices/major races.
"Easy Goer and Sunday Silence were the other's double. The two were as close as the fingers of a fist. Both were the living embodiment of what people said when asked which gunfighter was faster: "I’d hate to have to live on the difference." "In the Preakness and Breeders' Cup Classic, rider Pat Day moved down the backside - and then he Remembered he was Pat Day - and then when Day folded up, Day allowed Sunday Silence back in the race. Day moved, and then he gave it back." "In the Preakness, while picking up another cross on his reins, jockey Pat Day appeared to grab too much right line canting Easy Goer's head to the right, and in the end perhaps costing him the race by the flare of a nostril. A classic classic! Everyone will remember the 1989 Preakness and its remarkable stretch duel as long as they live. Sunday Silence and Easy Goer were generosity personified as they battled. No quality of the Thoroughbred is more admired than courage, and these two outstanding horses gave everything they had in the Preakness. There was a winner, but there was no loser. In a duel for the ages, the two greats joined battle, they bounded cheek by jowl to the wire. The two greats even changed leads in unison at the top of the stretch. They ran side by side, head to head, so close together they were brushing again and again, with Easy Goer also brushing the rail and dangerously close to it. A jewel of a duel by a snout."
Clenbuterol has been LEGALIZED A LONG LONG LONG TIME AGO as well! Clenbuterol also became as popular, influential & LEGAL in every state except NY, just like Furosemide. In fact, the combination of the incredibly effective performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol & Lasix became the biggest hops.
Sunday Silence was the king. He went on to be a foundation sire in Japan. Virtually no achieving thoroughbred there does not carry his genes. Our loss was their gain.
I am sure there would have been an objection lodged if there were any chance to have him set down. Sunday Silence was pinched off by the two leaders and had to go wide, otherwise, he might have won more decisively.
Easy Goer 1, SS 3 is the legal, moral, ethical score & the only one that counts legally, morally & ethically, & is in the legal, moral, ethical record books. The only records that count & the only ones in the record books are those that were/are run drug-free without any drugs, & that is why the legal, moral, ethical score is Easy Goer 1 SS 3 AND THAT IS TOTALLY TRUE IT STILL STANDS IN THE RECORD BOOKS AND WILL NEVER BE CHANGED
@@sigscorpion9275 Alex Harthill told all how & why the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence beat the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer by the slimmest of margins in a few races. Harthill said, "You can only REVERE the horses (Easy Goer, etc) whom my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) defeated even more, to do all they (Easy Goer, etc) were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short (Easy Goer, etc) of horses (Sunday Silence, etc) who had been given performance-enhancing drugs (Sunday Silence, etc) by myself." It's the truth based on Alex Harthill's voluntary admission to DRF Hovdey in 2001, plus all of the 88-90 DRF & FIGS Forms; 2012 NY Post article titled "The 11 horse who missed out on Triple Crown at Belmont" found on the web; DRF's Mike Watchmaker, Ed Fountaine & Paul Moran; Wikipedia articles with many reliable sources cited; 2 Claiborne Farm books; KY Law; NY Law; DRF, Bloodhorse & Thor. Record/Times; & mounds more. 120% TRUTH. The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer cremated the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence when ss was forced to run drug-free without any drugs in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. "Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic." How about the Belmont Stakes & the enormous amount of the other major G1 stakes races in New York? How about when the Breeders Cup took place in NY? Harthill was barred in NY. NY also was the only state in the entire country during that era which banned all drugs. NY also had the most advanced out-of-competition, training & raceday testing, & tested for an enormous amount of drugs. DRF 2001 Jay Hovdey: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me (Jay Hovdey/DRF) how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he Publicly Acknowledged Doing So many times. Harthill said, 'I (Harthill) was used for horses (Sunday Silence, etc) pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses (Sunday Silence, etc) I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses (Easy Goer, etc) whom my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) defeated even more, to do all they (Easy Goer, etc) were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short (Easy Goer, etc) of horses (Sunday Silence, etc) who had been given performance-enhancing drugs (Sunday Silence, etc) by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride.' "
No. Everything in quotes are the title, subtitles, Hovdey's words & Harthill's words. The ONE & ONLY parenthesis of (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts) IS DIRECTLY VERBATIM of Hovdey's words (NOT MINE), meaning Hovdey put these words in parenthesis. The title & subtitles of the article are: "Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic." The title & subtitles are crystal clear & remove all doubts about what races Harthill gave the horses ped drugs; & they transmit clear claims made by Harthill about Sunday Silence, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be. Here are Direct verbatim quotes of what Hovdey wrote, transmitting clear claims made by Harthill about SS, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. Harthill described how he illegally gave Northern Dancer the illegal drug Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964, affirming, 'I got a vet I knew from out of town to come along with me. I told him I was going to turn to the right, & he would go that way & take this syringe down to barn 24, stall 23, & give this to that horse. There would be a guy there called Will. He'd be waiting. So he did it, while the gendarmes followed me.' Other than Northern Dancer, Harthill confirmed that he gave Furosemide to other notable horses, including Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass & Master Derby. Harthill declared he regularly used illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs, & gave illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs to Decidedly, Iron Liege & Tim Tam. Aside from Sunday Silence, Harthill also asserted that he administered Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine, to other top-tier horses Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall & Black Tie Affair. Harthill also proclaimed that he was proud that he inaugurated the use of Clenbuterol, & regularly used Clenbuterol in the 1980's & 1990's. Harthill also affirmed that a common practice of his was to inject illegal long-acting steroid drugs into the injured areas of horses he treated, as well as rubbing heroin on the tongues of horses (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts). The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he publicly acknowledged doing so many times. The US DEA filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of these & other drugs. Alex Harthill & drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history. Harthill bribed state officials to throw away positive drug tests from horses that he had treated, & lost his license in many states. In no other major sport does an owner, coach, trainer or doctor have the ability, through working with several entrants in the same event, to directly affect the outcome. Harthill was a crooked vet who administered these & other performance enhancing drugs to his horses. Harthill was the most important factor in countless outcomes of numerous races. Harthill made Bob Baffert, Rick Dutrow, etc., look like Altar Boys. Harthill said, 'I was used for horses pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses whom my horses defeated even more, to do all they were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short of horses who had been given performance-enhancing drugs by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride.' "
Horse racing wrongs on their website says, "FOIA info indicates ABOUT 6 horses die racing or training in the US EVERY DAY. The 1119, 1141 and 1167 numbers of yearly HRW FOIA deaths could easily and reasonably be doubled, leaving us well in excess of 2,000 deaths." Yes, ABOUT 6. 1119 ÷ 365 = 3.06. 3.06 × 2 = 6.13
Gives me goosebumps every time!. Not just because of 2 beautiful horses giving it all they've got, but Dave Johnsons' incredible call always gets me! AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!!!!
No. Everything in quotes are the title, subtitles, Hovdey's words & Harthill's words. The ONE & ONLY parenthesis of (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts) IS DIRECT VERBATIM of Hovdey's words (NOT MINE), meaning Hovdey put these words in parenthesis. The title & subtitles of the article are: "Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic." The title & subtitles are crystal clear & remove all doubts about what races Harthill gave the horses ped drugs; & they transmit clear claims made by Harthill about Sunday Silence, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be. Here are Direct verbatim quotes of what Hovdey wrote, transmitting clear claims made by Harthill about SS, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. Harthill described how he illegally gave Northern Dancer the illegal drug Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964, affirming, 'I got a vet I knew from out of town to come along with me. I told him I was going to turn to the right, & he would go that way & take this syringe down to barn 24, stall 23, & give this to that horse. There would be a guy there called Will. He'd be waiting. So he did it, while the gendarmes followed me.' Other than Northern Dancer, Harthill confirmed that he gave Furosemide to other notable horses, including Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass & Master Derby. Harthill declared he regularly used illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs, & gave illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs to Decidedly, Iron Liege & Tim Tam. Aside from Sunday Silence, Harthill also asserted that he administered Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine, to other top-tier horses Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall & Black Tie Affair. Harthill also proclaimed that he was proud that he inaugurated the use of Clenbuterol, & regularly used Clenbuterol in the 1980's & 1990's. Harthill also affirmed that a common practice of his was to inject illegal long-acting steroid drugs into the injured areas of horses he treated, as well as rubbing heroin on the tongues of horses (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts). The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he publicly acknowledged doing so many times. The US DEA filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of these & other drugs. Alex Harthill & drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history. Harthill bribed state officials to throw away positive drug tests from horses that he had treated, & lost his license in many states. In no other major sport does an owner, coach, trainer or doctor have the ability, through working with several entrants in the same event, to directly affect the outcome. Harthill was a crooked vet who administered these & other performance enhancing drugs to his horses. Harthill was the most important factor in countless outcomes of numerous races. Harthill made Bob Baffert, Rick Dutrow, etc., look like Altar Boys. Harthill said, 'I was used for horses pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses whom my horses defeated even more, to do all they were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short of horses who had been given performance-enhancing drugs by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride.' "
Amazing. In almost one hundred and fifty years of Preakness history, not one Thoroughbred ran the mile fraction faster than the 1:34 1/5, or 1:34.20, of Easy Goer and Sunday Silence in this race. Amazing. The 1:09 3/5 fraction also was sizzling. The blistering midrace pace and monumental moves cost both dearly in the final furlong. It was an unsustainable pace for both. What made it unsustainable for both was not merely looking at the blistering fractions alone, but both horses monumental moves produced into the teeth of the blistering fractions. Easy Goer ran an inordinately and exceedingly rapid move into the teeth of the blistering fractions down the backside. Sunday Silence ran an inordinately and exceedingly rapid move into the teeth of the blistering fractions on the second turn. Both of these horses fractions and monumental moves reflect two amazing champions. Considering the blistering, unsustainable midrace pace, both horses monumental moves into the teeth of blistering fractions, and final time, both ran remarkable races.
sl7293 I never claimed that Easy Goer and Sunday Silence's sizzling fractions, monumental moves made into the teeth of blistering fractions, and amazing performances in this race were more impressive, more amazing or more remarkable than Secr., Louis or any other horse. I said both amazing champions ran remarkable races. I'd add what may have have been unsustainable for S.S. and E.G. on this day, may have been sustainable for them on other days, as well as other horses on other days. Perfectly fine with me if you feel that Secr., Louis or any other horse ran more remarkable, more amazing, more impressive, etc. races.
sl7293 It still is amazing that only one Thoroughbred (Secretariat) in the almost one hundred fifty year history of the Preakness, MAY have run the mile fraction faster than Easy Goer and Sunday Silence in 1:34 1/5.
@@phippsstable1159 Easy Goer 1, SS 3 is the legal, moral, ethical score & the only one that counts legally, morally & ethically, & is in the legal, moral, ethical record books. The only records that count & the only ones in the record books are those that were/are run drug-free without any drugs, & that is why the legal, moral, ethical score is Easy Goer 1 SS 3 AND THAT IS TOTALLY TRUE IT STILL STANDS IN THE RECORD BOOKS AND WILL NEVER BE CHANGED
Great Genetics have definitely moved on to new generations for Easy Goer and Sunday Silence. The influence of Easy Goer and Sunday Silence on the breeding of racehorses worldwide is incredible. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the Group 1 St. James's Palace Stakes, Group 1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's other grandson Astronomer Royal won the Group 1 French 2,000 Guineas, et cetera.
The VOLUNTARY ADMISSION by Alex Harthill in 2001 DRF Hovdey article is crystal clear, staring with the title & subtitles of the DRF Article: 'Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic.' How about the Belmont Stakes & the enormous amount of the other major G1 stakes races in New York? How about when the Breeders Cup took place in NY? Harthill was barred in NY. NY also was the only state in the entire country during that era which banned all drugs. NY also had the most advanced out-of-competition, training & raceday testing, & tested for an enormous amount of drugs with a zero tolerance policy - zero amount of any drugs allowed in the system w/o having to quibble about even tiny amounts. Direct verbatim quotes of what Hovdey wrote, & direct verbatim quotes of Harthill: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. Harthill described how he illegally gave Northern Dancer the illegal drug Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964, affirming, 'I got a vet I knew from out of town to come along with me. I told him I was going to turn to the right, & he would go that way & take this syringe down to barn 24, stall 23, & give this to that horse. There would be a guy there called Will. He'd be waiting. So he did it, while the gendarmes followed me.' Other than Northern Dancer, Harthill confirmed that he gave Furosemide to other notable horses, including Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass & Master Derby. Harthill declared he regularly used illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs, & gave illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs to Decidedly, Iron Liege & Tim Tam. Aside from Sunday Silence, Harthill also asserted that he administered Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine, to other top-tier horses Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall & Black Tie Affair. Harthill also proclaimed that he was proud that he inaugurated the use of Clenbuterol, & regularly used Clenbuterol in the 1980's & 1990's. Harthill also affirmed that a common practice of his was to inject illegal long-acting steroid drugs into the injured areas of horses he treated, as well as rubbing heroin on the tongues of horses (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts). The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he publicly acknowledged doing so many times. The US DEA filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of these & other drugs. Alex Harthill & drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history. Harthill bribed state officials to throw away positive drug tests from horses that he had treated, & lost his license in many states. In no other major sport does an owner, coach, trainer or doctor have the ability, through working with several entrants in the same event, to directly affect the outcome. Harthill was a crooked vet who administered these & other performance enhancing drugs to his horses. Harthill was the most important factor in countless outcomes of numerous races. Harthill made Bob Baffert, Rick Dutrow, etc., look like Altar Boys. Harthill said, 'I was used for horses pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses whom my horses defeated even more, to do all they were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short of horses who had been given performance-enhancing drugs by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride.' "
Probably was the greatest race of all time, or at least one of them. These two terrific greats going snout to snout in a race that merited a dead heat. It exemplified and demonstrated what great all around courage, bravery and resolution these two strikingly gifted, skillful and remarkable horses displayed.
What a great race,What a great horse SS is !!! He came to Japan and changed Japanese horse racing.I deeply love and proud of him.A lot of thanx ,Sunday Silence
Which words? Here are Direct verbatim quotes of what Hovdey wrote, transmitting clear claims made by Harthill about SS, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. Harthill illegally gave Northern Dancer the illegal drug Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964. Other than Northern Dancer, Harthill confirmed that he gave Furosemide to other notable horses, including Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass & Master Derby. Harthill declared he regularly used illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs, & gave illegal amphetamine & stimulant drugs to Decidedly, Iron Liege & Tim Tam. Aside from Sunday Silence, Harthill also asserted that he administered Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine, to other top-tier horses Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall & Black Tie Affair. Harthill also proclaimed that he was proud that he inaugurated the use of Clenbuterol, & regularly used Clenbuterol in the 1980's & 1990's. Harthill also affirmed that a common practice of his was to inject illegal long-acting steroid drugs into the injured areas of horses he treated, as well as rubbing heroin on the tongues of horses (but only after it was tested for efficacy by handy addicts). The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Many studies done on Lasix have concluded that it makes horses run faster & enhances performance. Using many different methods to gauge how much faster horses run after being treated with Lasix, the studies found an improvement of about six to nine lengths at distances of a mile or farther. The drug Clenbuterol has a similar effect on the body as Epinephrine & Amphetamines by increasing the production of Epinephrine & Noradrenaline, & thus significantly enhancing performance. Clenbuterol also thins blood & widens the vessels that carry oxygen, so the volume of oxygen in the blood increases, which increases energy & improves performance. Clenbuterol is an extraordinary drug with two completely different effects that dramatically enhance performance, speed, stamina, endurance, lung capacity & energy levels. It greatly aids breathing by significantly expanding the air passages in the lungs letting air flow much more freely, & it dramatically reduces body fat by causing rapid fat burning. Clenbuterol performed miracles for horses who made inexplicable improvements with major enhancements in performance. The drugs Etorphine & Sublimaze are drugs that give horses such a sense of euphoria & well-being that they feel like they don’t have legs. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he publicly acknowledged doing so many times. The US DEA filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of these & other drugs. Alex Harthill & drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history. Harthill bribed state officials to throw away positive drug tests from horses that he had treated, & lost his license in many states. In no other major sport does an owner, coach, trainer or doctor have the ability, through working with several entrants in the same event, to directly affect the outcome. Harthill was a crooked vet who administered these & other performance enhancing drugs to his horses. Harthill was the most important factor in countless outcomes of numerous races. Harthill made Bob Baffert, Rick Dutrow, etc., look like Altar boys."
Copying and pasting others comments about the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer is the GREATEST FORM of Flattery. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, when you imitate what others say, it’s the biggest compliment to those people you are imitating and copying and pasting.
McGaughey said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. McGaughey did NOT say that he gave the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute in the BCC at Gulfstream in Florida, & not in the Swale Stakes in Florida, & not in the Preakness in Maryland. McGaughey said he did not give the asprin bute in the Preakness. McGaughey also said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. When did KY correct this? 93'. Go look up here on the web of every KY Derby race chart starting from 1993 to 2020, & you will see NOT ONE horse listed as being given the aspirin bute (B) in every Derby. Why? KY did not ban the aspirin bute in 93 & going forward, but because the KY law was/is that the aspirin bute is only permitted to be given 1 to 3 days (2 days was/is the standard) before a race, or 24 to 72 hours before race (48 hours was/is the standard), it was/is incorrect, erroneous & absurd to list horses as being given aspirin bute for races on race-day, nor being on aspirin bute for races on race-day. No wonder why sunday silence was given the potent performance enhancing diuretic drug Furosemide, Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin bute), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, & Naproxen in 13 of his 14 career races; all of these drugs were allowed to be given 4 HOURS before a race, while the aspirin bute was only allowed to be given 1 to 3 days before a race (2 days was/is the standard). No wonder why the banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill gave sunday silence the illegal performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine. You can be damn sure that both EG & SS both ran drug-free without any drugs (& without ss's banned illegal criminal vet Harthill as well) when running in the Belmont in NY because NY was the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Harthill as well. McGaughey ALSO stated, "Easy Goer had these issues, but he had such an outstanding way of going that he'd glide so smoothly. The issues didn't really bother him, he was so muscular, strong and competitive, he'd run through brick walls, and I never ran him on any medications. He never needed them." Claiborne Farm said, "One of the many claims to fame for Easy Goer is, in an era of vast legal and illegal drug use, he ran his entire career drug-free in 20 starts for a total of well over 20 miles of racing. From the day he was born, Easy Goer had a clubfoot, a crooked turned-out left knee, bad grapefruit sized ankles and knees, but he made up for it all by his exceptional balance, action and stride, and never ran on any drugs." When McGaughey himself is quoted directly in two 90's Claiborne Farm books, KY Law, all official DRF & FIGS Form papers, Claiborne Farm, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Record, DRF, etc., & all (all are reliable sources & all intimately familiar with DRF publications) say that EG ran drug-free & was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute) or drugs (race-day medications/drugs) within a minimum of 24 hours (1 Full Day; & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career, it means EG did not run or race on any drugs; & they are all 100% correct. EG was never given any medications (including the aspirin bute) or drugs on race-day (within a minimum of 24 hours or 1 Full Day & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career. EG also was never given any performance enhancing drugs in his career. Back in the 80's, KY erroneously & incorrectly listed horses as being on (given) bute on race-day, even though they were only permitted by KY law to be given bute 1 to 3 days before a race, 24 to 72 hours before a race, & a minimum of 1 day or 24 hrs before a race. Yet, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen were/are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race, yet KY only listed horses being given Furosemide. "In the 1980's KY law only allowed the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory bute to be given a MINIMUM of at least 24 hours, a FULL DAY, before a race, and up to 72 hours, three days, before a race, but not within 24 hours of a race, not on race-day of a race. However, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen all are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race."
Bill Nack, "Two greats joined battle in a duel for the ages, they bounded cheek by jowl to the wire. While picking up another cross on his reins, Pat Day appeared to grab too much right line canting Easy Goer's head to the right, and in the end perhaps costing him the race by the flare of a nostril." SI-"They ran side by side, eye to eye, so close they were brushing again and again, with Easy Goer also brushing the rail, dangerously close. They even changed leads in unison. A jewel of a duel by a snout."
Easy Goer wins that race if not for his head pulling to the right in the last stretch of the race, which would have cost him a touch of forward momentum. Was it something jockey Day did--which Nack suggests--or was it just that Easy Goer was uncomfortable being pinned almost against the rail by Sunday Silence? Or was Day trying to get him away from the rail a bit. Whatever the reason, had he had a bit more room I think Easy Goer would have won this great race.
@@michaelrichardson6051 Pat Patsy Daisy Day, aka Pat Ron Franklin Esque Day, Pat Wait All Day, Pat Delay Day, Pat a Day Late Day, Pat start stop start stop Day, Pat so patient he could watch a faucet drip for days Day.
There's no question that Sunday Silence & Easy Goer were both tremendously gifted thoroughbreds and they both brought out the best in each other. Because Sunday Silence won 3 of the 4 head to head meetings I think many racing historians remember him as having been the better horse now. But I would submit that had Easy Goer overcame the 6 inch loss in the Preakness that it would've been the other way around. You would've had Sunday Silence with a Kentucky Derby & BC Classic win and Easy Goer with a Preakness & Belmont Stakes win head to head. But beyond their head to head meetings it wasn't even close. The other major wins of Sunday Silence career outside of his 3 wins against Easy Goer were the G1 Santa Anita Derby & G2 Super Derby. But what Easy Goer accomplished outside of his head to head meetings against Sunday Silence has never before or since been accomplished by any horse, winning the G1 Travers Stakes, G1 Whitney Handicap, G1 Woodward Stakes, & G1 Jockey Club Gold Cup in the same season right after he'd just finished the Triple Crown grind. If Easy Goer overcomes the 6 inch defeat in this race history remembers these 2 horses vastly different head to head, IMO.
This is the stupidness. Horse conversation. I hear if if if. E.g. had a better racing career.but as was a better horse. Simple 3 out of 4. No argument in that
Who's better in any way is totally subjective. There are an endless amount of all time greats who were behind or tied in head to head records, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Shuvee, John Henry, Pleasant Colony, Serena's Song, Silverbulletday, Swaps, Nashua, Sir Barton, Skip Away and many others. There was the Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by SS against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of lesst han two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge vs EG with 3 wins coming in very close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type & Cro Lover. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor; Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple; Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce; Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom; Dr Fager got beat 2 out of 4 by Damascus; Pleasant Colony got beat 3 out of 4 by Akureyri; Triple Crown winner Sir Barton got beat 8 out of 12 by Billy Kelly; John Henry got beat 4 out of 4 by Cabrini Green; John Henry got beat 3 out of 3 by Darby Creek Road; Skip Away got beat 4 out of 6 by Formal Gold; & there are an endless amount of other similar examples. Easy Goer also ran many more races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs. SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs/medications not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, and cannot be simplified when there are many more factors and variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
The aspirin bute 6 days? The dosage of the aspirin bute given a minimum of 24 hours to 72 hours before (48 hours was/is the standard) a race was/is a 0.9-gram to 1.8-gram dose. If 0.9 grams of aspirin bute was given 24 hours before a race & a horse's post-race test, or if 1.8 grams of bute were given 48 hours before testing, what is the amount of bute actually remaining in the horse 24 to 48 hours post-administration? The half-life of bute in the horse is about 7.22 hours. This means that every 7.22 hours the amount of bute in the horse (& the horse's bloodstream) decreases by 50%. Dr Tom Tobin of Gluck Equine Research Center, has performed extensive research on the metabolism of aspirin bute, & reports that with a half-life of 7.22 hours, 90% of the bute remaining in the horse will be metabolized (gone from the horse) at the end of each day (24 hrs). In the first 24 hours, the amount of bute in the horse decreases by 90%. After another 24 hours, an additional 90% of the bute remaining in the horse is metabolized (gone from the horse). The horse now has only 1% of the original dose left in the system. This is what is present in the entire horse, including all its tissues, not just the bloodstream. The amount of bute in the bloodstream will be even lower. Easy Goer was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute) or drugs (race-day medications/drugs) within a minimum of 24 hours (1 Full Day) of any race in his career. EG was never given any medications (including the aspirin bute) or drugs on race-day (within a minimum of 24 hours or 1 Full Day) of any race in his career. EG also was never given any performance enhancing drugs in his career.
"Sunday Silence had been TREATED WITH DRUGS in the Kentucky Derby, Preakness & Breeders' Cup Classic when edging Easy Goer, but couldn't for the Belmont Stakes in New York, the one state where all drugs are banned. Easy Goer was free from all of the controversies & debates about drugs, for ALL DRUGS are prohibited in New York, as they are in the rest of the racing world outside the US. The key questions that influenced racing all year was: Could Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer without drugs? Could Sunday Silence win without drugs? He gave definitive & assertive replies to the questions: NO. Sunday Silence struggled home edging Le Voyageur but was thoroughly beaten, as the splendid Easy Goer sprinted off with the Belmont Stakes. Racing should be filled with SUPERIOR horses like EASY GOER, who did NOT require ANY drugs to perform at his best, & NOT DRUG-RELIANT horses like SUNDAY SILENCE, so we focus our attention on the sport instead of drugs. Racing wears drugs like festering, self-inflicted wounds on the end of its nose opened by the ax of greed & stamped with the endorsements of every racing commission in the nation except New York's. Racing's drug dependency, like any drug problem, has become a major problem & tarnished the sport. It is to New York's merit & acclaim that their major races stand as giant hurdles to drug-reliant horses. Winning major races on drugs is not what racing is about." Paul Moran.
Both Easy Goer and Sunday Silence are underrated to me. They came from the largest foal crop ever of over 50,000 foals, plus other competitors from other huge foal crops in the 1980's. Easy Goer and Sunday Silence most likely denied the other immortality, as both horses most likely would have been immortal Triple Crown winners if not for the other.
I think as time goes by Easy Goer will get his due as it is starting to happen..He consistently ran faster then horses such as Buckpasser, Slew, Alydar- Affirmed, Damascus, Citation, Whirlaway, Gallant Man, and his track records and near track Records plus Amazingly consistent Beyers and Rags confirm that...as and Individual Horse he was a Freak but human error did him no favors..
Enough said? Nothing more needs to be said? Not, wrong. That is like saying that Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor & nothing more needs to be said. Not, wrong. That is like saying that Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple & nothing more needs to be said. Not, wrong. That is like saying that Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce & nothing more needs to be said. Not, wrong. That is like saying that Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom & nothing more needs to be said. Not, wrong. Ditto Damascus 2/ Dr Fager 2, Akureyri 3 / Pleasant Colony 1, Billy Kelly 8/ Sir Barton 4, Formal Gold 4 / Skip Away 2, and an endless amount of others that were not "enough said or nothing more needs to be said" examples. Neither this example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY LIMITED number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish "consistency" on a statistical basis. Better is totally subjective. Easy Goer ran many many races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs & medications, showing who had a "big heart." SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs & medications. SS held the slight 3-1 edge in those races; those are facts. Who was better? Better is totally subjective. Many many greats were behind or tied on the head to head scoreboard - Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Skip Away, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, Round Table, Ancient Title, John Henry, Shuvee, Sir Barton among many others were behind or tied in head to heads. Who was better though? Better, like beauty is totally subjective. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more that can be said other than head to heads with other examples being: 1) Noor beat HOF champ Citation in 4 of 5 races head to head. 2) Beau Purple beat HOF champ Kelso in 3 of 4 races head to head. 3) Big Spruce & Wajima beat HOF champ Forego in 2 of 3 races head to head. 4) Damascus beat Dr Fager in 2 of 4 races head to head. Swaps and Nashua were 1 to 1 head to head. 5) Mehmet & Interco beat John Henry in 2 of 3 races. 6) Darby Creek Road also beat HOF champ John Henry in 3 of 3 races. 7) Cabrini Green also beat John Henry in 4 of 4 races. 8) Cutlass Reality beat HOY Ferdinand in 3 races. 9) Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champ Sir Barton in 8 of 12 races. 10) Formal Gold beat HOF champ Skip Away in 4 of 6 races. 11) Star of Cozzene beat HOY Kotashaan in 3 of 4 races. 12) Pretense beat HOF champ Native Diver 5 times. 13) Summer Squall beat champion Unbridled in 4 of 6 races head to head. 14) Heritageofgold beat HOF champ Silverbulletday in 3 of 3 races. 15) Clem beat HOF champion Round Table 3 times. 16) Crystal Water beat HOF champion Ancient Title 4 times. 17) Akureyri beat champion Pleasant Colony in 3 of 4 races. 18) Gallant Bloom beat Shuvee in 4 of 5 races, etc etc. Justice's rankings, while objective, are flawed. Timeform (both EG & SS with 137 Timeform ratings), DRF, Racing Post ratings, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Times, Sports Illustrated, Associated Press, etc etc, are all subjective & flawed. The point is who was better in any way is totally subjective.
Fbanz96 by the jockey, not the horse;) , meanwhile Easy Goer Destroyed him in the Belmont Stakes won more Races than he did and has more 120+ Beyers and Track records than he does, Enough Said;)
Easy Goer and Sunday. Two of the best. Forced out wide, then Easy Goer, with that very rash,early, precipitative, solid bold burst of speed, like a shot. Then geared down, & wedged in tightly, leaned on & carried in, & boxed & pinned on rail. Then directed to look at his rival. Amazing race. Both fought with fortitude,vigor and very tenaciously.
As far as racing officials at DRF & FIGS Forms (plus DRF's Mike Watchmaker, Paul Moran, NY Post, etc) were concerned, Sunday Silence raced on the remarkably effective performance-enhancing diuretic drug Furosemide (a scientific study of 23,000 races showed it gives a 6 length performance enhancement at longer, classic distances, & less at shorter distances), as well as Banamine/Flunixin (5 times more powerful than aspirin bute), Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid, Naproxen & Aspirin Bute in 13 of his 14 career races outside drug-free New York. He was officially on the remarkably effective performance-enhancing diuretic drug Furosemide, Banamine/Flunixin, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid, Naproxen & Aspirin Bute, just as sure as Northern Dancer was on Lasix in the 1964 Kentucky Derby & Dancer's Image was on Bute in the 1968 Kentucky Derby. As Far as the banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill was concerned, Sunday Silence raced on the incredibly effective performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine in the 1989 KY Derby, Preakness & BC Classic.
@@jlove8445 Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when they had to run drug-free without any drugs. Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when ss had to run without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Harthill admitted he gave ss many ped drugs. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer was without a doubt a much better stallion at stud in the USA & Europe. The many attempts that have been made to generate Sunday Silence's sire-line outside the insular, restricted, big fish in small pond Japan have had very little to very modest success, proving his worth outside the insular, restricted, big fish in small pond Japan is minimal - sons of Sunday Silence that have stood at stud outside Japan in Europe, Australia & the U.S.A. have had very little to very modest success, including Divine Light, Born King, Keep the Faith, Layman, Tayasu Tsuyoshi, Real Impact, Bubble Gum Fellow, Genuine, Hat Trick, Silent Name, Fuji Kiseki, Fusaichi Zenon, Agnes Gold, Victoire Pisa, Neorealism, Brave Smash, Black Tuxedo, etc. Sunday Silence himself did not even sire one G1 winner in all of Europe & the U.S.A., & many attempted to, including Dance Partner, Dance in the Mood, Sundrop, Layman, Keep the Faith, Silent Name, Deep Impact {disqualified from 3rd place finish due to a positive drug test for an illegal drug}, To the Victory, Zenno Rob Roy, Heart's Cry, Sunday Joy, Seven Moons, Negotiator, Wild Sunday & others - All of these sons & daughters of Sunday Silence lost all of their G1 races in Europe & the U.S.A. Sunday Silence & Deep Impact both took over from Northern Taste & Tesco Boy as leading sire in the insular, restricted, big fish in small pond Japan. However, none of these compare to Galileo, Danehill, Sadler's Wells, Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector, Danzig, Native Dancer, Bold Ruler, Man o' War, Nasruallah, Bull Lea, Raise a Native & some others. Dubawi, Tapit, Curlin, Sea the Stars & Frankel may be on their way to these aforementioned sires above. Japan's great successes cannot be attributed only because Sunday Silence & Deep Impact. While SS's blood is oversaturated in Japan, some horses without any SS blood have also been leading sires in Japan, including the aforementioned Northern Taste & Tesco Boy, as well as King Kamehameha, Symboli Kris S, Kurofune, Rulership, Harbinger, Sakura Bakushin O, Brian's Time & Lord Kanaloa. Many horses without any SS blood at all have been greats in Japan & worldwide, including all of these G1 winners: Panthalassa {G1 Saudi Cup & G1 Dubai Turf winner}, El Condor Pasa {G1 winner in Europe}, Taiki Shuttle {G1 winner in Europe}, Seeking the Pearl {G1 winner in Europe}, Lord Kanaloa, Vodka, TM Opera O, Jungle Pocket, King Kamehameha, Apapane, Narita Brian, Symboli Kris S, Meisho Samson, Rey de Oro, Agnes Digital, Mayano Top Gun, Air Groove, Grass Wonder, Tap Dance City, Sweep Tosho, Satono Crown, etc.
@@jlove8445 Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when they had to run drug-free without any drugs. Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when ss had to run without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Harthill admitted he gave ss many ped drugs. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer was without a doubt a much better stallion at stud in the USA & Europe. Easy Goer is in the bloodlines of a numerous amount of G1 winners in the USA & Europe. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the Group 1 St. James's Palace Stakes, G1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Astronomer Royal won the Group 1 French 2,000 Guineas, etc. Easy Goer's son Will's Way won the Grade 1 Whitney Handicap, G1 Travers Stakes, etc. Easy Goer's daughter My Flag won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G1 Ashland, G1 Gazelle, G1 Bonnie Miss, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Corinthian won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, G1 Met Mile, G1 Gulfstream Park Handicap, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Storm Flag Flying won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G1 Personal Ensign, G1 Frizette, G1 Matron, G1 Shuvee, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Bulletin won the G1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint, etc. Easy Goer's grandson London Bridge won the G1 Breeders' Cup Marathon, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Lion Tamer won the G1 Cigar Mile, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Magical Fantasy won the G1 Yellow Ribbon, G1 Gamely, G1 Ramona {Mabee}, G1 Del Mar Oaks, G1 Santa Barbara, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Audible won the G1 Florida Derby, G1 Holy Bull, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Funny Moon won the G1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G1 Shuvee, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Monba won the G1 Blue Grass, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Dynamic One won the G1 Suburban, etc. Easy Goer's daughter Furlough won the G1 Ballerina, G1 Distaff, G1 Honorable Miss, etc. Easy Goer's son Composer won the G1 Jim Dandy, etc. Easy Goer's daughter Relaxing Rhythm won the G1 Molly Pitcher, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Tiz Miz Sue won the G1 Ogden Phipps, etc. And many more.
TOTALLY FALSE! First of all, Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when they had to run drug-free without any drugs. Easy Goer was without a doubt the much better horse on the track when ss had to run without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Harthill admitted he gave ss many ped drugs. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer was without a doubt a much better stallion at stud in the USA & Europe. Sunday Silence's vet Alex Harthill admitted he gave ss the incredibly effective performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine, plus ss was given the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Fursomeide (a study of 23,000 races showed it gives a 6 to 9 length performance enhancement). Easy Goer crushed ss when forced to run drug-free without any drugs in the only state in the entire country during that era which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. Alex Harthill admitted he gave ped drugs to Sunday Silence, Northern Dancer, Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass, Master Derby, Decidedly, Iron Liege, Tim Tam, Ferdinand, Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Winning Colors, Lil E. Tee, Summer Squall & Black Tie Affair. Not to mention Big Brown, Maximum Security, American Pharoah, Justify, Curlin, Tapit, etc., were also given ped drugs like Furosemide, Albuterol, SGF-1000, etc. Whether they became top sires or not is totally irrelevant. Many drug-free horses became top sires like Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew, Native Dancer, Man o' War, Galileo, Danehill, Sadler's Wells, Danzig, Frankel, Dubawi, Sea the Stars, A.P. Indy, Giant's Causeway, Storm Cat, Bold Ruler, Bull Lea, Nasrullah, Nearco, Ribot, etc. The fact that some horses who were drug-reliant & were given ped drugs became top sires is irrelevant. Northern Dancer became one of the most successful sires ever in the USA & Europe; ditto for all the others above. The big difference is Sunday Silence & Deep Impact both took over from Northern Taste &Tesco Boy as leading sire in the insular, restricted, very big fish in very small pond Japan. While a few Deep Impact's have had success with G1 wins in Europe, etc, it must be noted that he was bred to the best of the best Coolmore Galileo, Sadler's Wells & Giant's Causeway mares to do so in most cases - & in the other cases he was bred to the best of the best Niarchos family mares who are descendants of the great Miesque. Actually, Sunday Silence himself did not even sire one G1 winner in all of Europe & the US, & many attempted to, including Dance Partner, Dance in the Mood, Sundrop, Layman, Keep the Faith, Silent Name, Deep Impact {disqualified from 3rd place finish due to a positive drug test for an illegal drug}, To the Victory, Zenno Rob Roy, Heart's Cry, Sunday Joy, Seven Moons, Negotiator, Wild Sunday & others - All of these sons & daughters of Sunday Silence lost all of their G1 races in Europe & the US. The many attempts that have been made to generate Sunday Silence's sire-line outside Japan have had very little to very modest success, proving his worth outside Japan is still minimal. Sons of Sunday Silence that have stood at stud outside Japan in Europe, Australia & US have had very little to very modest success, including Divine Light, Born King, Keep the Faith, Layman, Tayasu Tsuyoshi, Real Impact, Bubble Gum Fellow, Genuine, Hat Trick, Silent Name, Fuji Kiseki, Fusaichi Zenon, Agnes Gold, Victoire Pisa, Neorealism, Brave Smash, Black Tuxedo, et cetera. Many horses without any SS blood have also been leading sires in Japan, including the aforementioned Northern Taste & Tesco Boy, as well as King Kamehameha, Symboli Kris S, Kurofune, Rulership, Harbinger, Sakura Bakushin O, Brian's Time & Lord Kanaloa. Many horses without any SS blood at all have been greats in Japan & worldwide, including all of these G1 winners: Panthalassa {G1 Saudi Cup & G1 Dubai Turf winner}, El Condor Pasa {G1 winner in Europe}, Taiki Shuttle {G1 winner in Europe}, Seeking the Pearl {G1 winner in Europe}, Lord Kanaloa, Vodka, TM Opera O, Jungle Pocket, King Kamehameha, Apapane, Narita Brian, Symboli Kris S, Meisho Samson, Rey de Oro, Agnes Digital, Mayano Top Gun, Air Groove, Grass Wonder, Tap Dance City, Sweep Tosho, Satono Crown, etc.
In two 1990's books on Claiborne Farm, McGaughey stated, "Easy Goer had these issues, but he had such an outstanding way of going that he'd glide so smoothly. The issues didn't really bother him, he was so muscular, strong and competitive, he'd run through brick walls, and I never ran him on any medications. He never needed them." In these same 90's Claiborne Farm books, as well as stallion directory books, Claiborne Farm's President Seth Hancock, as well as the Director of Stallion & Foal Operations Gus Koch are both quoted: Seth Hancock said, "One of the many claims to fame for Easy Goer is, in an era of vast legal and illegal drug use, he ran his entire career drug-free in 20 starts for a total of well over 20 miles of racing." Gus Koch said, "From the day he was born, Easy Goer had a clubfoot, a crooked turned-out left knee, bad grapefruit sized ankles and knees, but he made up for it all by his exceptional balance, action and stride, and never ran on any drugs." When McGaughey himself is quoted directly in two 90's Claiborne Farm books, KY Law, all official DRF & FIGS Form papers, Claiborne Farm, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Record, DRF, etc., & all (all are reliable sources & all intimately familiar with DRF publications) say that EG ran drug-free & was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute). When McGaughey himself is quoted directly in two 90's Claiborne Farm books, KY Law, all official DRF & FIGS Form papers, Claiborne Farm, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Record, DRF, etc., & all (all are reliable sources & all intimately familiar with DRF publications) say that EG ran drug-free & was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute) or drugs (race-day medications/drugs) within a minimum of 24 hours (1 Full Day; & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career, it means EG did not run or race on any drugs; & they are all 100% correct. EG was never given any medications (including the aspirin bute) or drugs on race-day (within a minimum of 24 hours or 1 Full Day & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career. EG also was never given any performance enhancing drugs in his career. Back in the 80's, KY erroneously & incorrectly listed horses as being on (given) bute on race-day, even though they were only permitted by KY law to be given bute 1 to 3 days before a race, 24 to 72 hours before a race, & a minimum of 1 day or 24 hrs before a race. Yet, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen were/are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race, yet KY only listed horses being given Furosemide. "In the 1980's KY law only allowed the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory bute to be given a MINIMUM of at least 24 hours, a FULL DAY, before a race, and up to 72 hours, three days, before a race, but not within 24 hours of a race, not on race-day of a race. However, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen all are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race." McGaughey said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. McGaughey did NOT say that he gave the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute in the BCC at Gulfstream in Florida, & not in the Swale Stakes in Florida, & not in the Preakness in Maryland. McGaughey said he did not give the asprin bute in the Preakness. McGaughey also said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. When did KY correct this? 93'. Go look up here on the web of every KY Derby race chart starting from 1993 to 2020, & you will see NOT ONE horse listed as being given the aspirin bute (B) in every Derby. Why? KY did not ban the aspirin bute in 93 & going forward, but because the KY law was/is that the aspirin bute is only permitted to be given 1 to 3 days (2 days was/is the standard) before a race, or 24 to 72 hours before race (48 hours was/is the standard), it was/is incorrect, erroneous & absurd to list horses as being given aspirin bute for races on race-day, nor being on aspirin bute for races on race-day. No wonder why sunday silence was given the potent performance enhancing diuretic drug Furosemide, Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin bute), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, & Naproxen in 13 of his 14 career races; all of these drugs were allowed to be given 4 HOURS before a race, while the aspirin bute was only allowed to be given 1 to 3 days before a race (2 days was/is the standard). No wonder why the banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill gave sunday silence the illegal performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine. You can be damn sure that both EG & SS both ran drug-free without any drugs (& without ss's banned illegal criminal vet Harthill as well) when running in the Belmont in NY because NY was the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Harthill as well.
Easy Goer ran 1:53 4/5 for 9.5f in Maryland, ran 2:00 1/5 for 10f in Florida, losing by inches and a neck in these races. Easy Goer also ran the fastest 7 furlongs of the year in Florida in 1989. This is a Hall of Fame champion (SS was also) who didn't have any problem at all with shipping to other states and other tracks. He did specifically despise the quirky, peanut buttery, sticky Churchill mud and seemed to flounder in it being a huge, extremely powerful horse with chronically bad, puffy ankles, though his talent, class and ability landed him 2nd's in those races. Though he won in mud elsewhere. He was among many great horses who hated Churchill, however he never ran over a fast track there. I don't think it was about surfaces or shipping at all. They BOTH had to ship for the 3 TC races and the BC. Easy Goer ran many more races (and ran a much more strenuous post Triple Crown campaign) and also never got beat by more than 2 lengths (also never finishing off the board) in his career. SS had a much less strenuous post Triple Crown campaign. You can also look at the timing, distance and spacing of the so called prep races. Easy Goer ran a record mile in the Gotham, then 2 weeks later won the Wood, then only 2 weeks later the start of the Triple Crown races (5 races in 9 weeks). SS ran his last Derby prep 4 weeks out. EG also ran in the 1 1/2 mile Jockey Club in his 'prep' for the BC. It was most likely to me much more about track circumferences. Easy Goer did win on ALL the track circumferences of USA dirt tracks (1 mile, 1 1/8 mile, 1 1/2 mile). EG was an Undefeated 5 for 5 over 1 1/8 tracks at all distances. SS did not win over all tracks. In fact, SS lost 3 races over 1 1/8 tracks (at his HOME track of Hollywood) and lost his 1 race over a 1 1/2 mile track by 8 lengths. EG's record over mile tracks (4 losses though narrow losses) was very similar to SS's record over 1 1/8 or larger tracks (SS lost 4 races over 1 1/8 or bigger tracks). Based on these facts (EG being undefeated over 1 1/8 mile tracks, while SS lost 3 races over 1 1/8 mile tracks), Easy Goer actually would have had an advantage running against these horses at Hollywood Park (a larger 1 1/8 mile oval) in California. SS would have had an advantage at the smaller Santa Anita track in Cal. Easy Goer also would have had an advantage running over 1 1/8 mile tracks, regardless of state or region, in: Florida (Hialeah Park), Chicago (Arlington Park, where they were supposed to meet at age 4), Hollywood (California), Atlantic City (NJ), Saratoga (NY), Aqueduct (NY), Laurel Park (Maryland), Keeneland (KY), Ellis Park (KY), Colonial (Va.), Belmont (NY), and the current Gulfstream in Florida is also NOW a larger 1 1/8 mile oval. SS would have had an advantage of running against EG in NY if they ran at the mile oval in Finger Lakes.
Ariel Dovid Easy Goer was a terrific colt but he faced his nemesis in the 4 biggest races of the year all grade 1s at 4 different tracks in four different states and the score was 3-1 in favor of Sunday Silence, I don't know how this is even debatable.
Robert Jordan Are you serious. It's very very very easily debatable. Both were brilliant Hall of Fame champions. 4 races are a very small sample. Easy Goer was inches away (Preakness) from it being an even, level 2 to 2 score. Easy Goer also had a superior career resu'me and accomplished & achieved more in his career. It's as easily debatable as these 'scores' between rivals (as Delclub points out) - Noor 4-1 over Citation. Beau Purple 3-1over Kelso. Damascus 2-2 with Dr. Fager. Nashua/Swaps. Akureyri 3-1 over Pleasant Colony. Big Spruce 2-1 over Forego. Mehmet 2-1 over John Henry. Formal Gold 4-2 over Skip Away. Summer Squall 4-2 over Unbridled. Billy Kelly 8-4 over Sir Barton. Star o Cozzene 3-1 over Kotashaan. The list may be infinite. Who was greater is intuitive and easily debatable among ALL.
anhell32 Not 'period' at all. As if the ONE Bloodhorse list is authoritative, true and correct? Not at all. The ONE B.h. list is subjective, intuitive and non objective, as are all lists. Lists of greats? Charlie Justice ranked Easy Goer the number two greatest three year old of all time behind only secretariat in his mathematical, statistical list (based on numerous factors). And Ahead of Buckpasser, Slew, Affirmed, Bid, Sunday, Damascus, Citation, etc. If the daily racing form, timeform, racing post, sports illustrated, associated press, thoroughbred times, etc etc also made lists, I am sure they would rank horses differently (many of them). Who was greater (or better) is very debatable and subjective. Since this one B.h. list also ranked Buckpasser narrowly ahead of Damascus, ranked Bid narrowly ahead of Affirmed, ranked Slew narrowly ahead of Affirmed, ranked Swaps narrowly ahead of Nashua, ranked Man O' War ahead of Secretariat, ranked War Admiral ahead of Seabiscuit, ranked Majestic Prince ahead of Arts and Letters, ranked Round Table narrowly ahead of Bold Ruler, etc, this makes it true, correct and authoritative? Not at all. They are all very debatable, subjective, and intuitive.
sl7293 I have no problem or disagreement with what you found out about his study. I also never looked into it deeply. It looks like you did look into it deeply. The only point I was making was to the person who said, 'he was ahead on the Blood-horse list of greats, 3 to 1 period.' My point was simply: Charles Justice's list is also subjective on where he ranked whom. Obviously he ranked Easy Goer ahead of Sunday Silence as 3 year olds, and high on his list of 3 year olds & 'better' than many top horses. Justice is not any more authoritative, true or correct than the Blood-horse seven member panel. The ONE Blood- horse list (seven member panel) does not mean it is authoritative, true and correct about any horse being better than another. Not at all. The ONE B.h. list is subjective, intuitive and non objective, as are all lists. I respect their opinion on ranking horses where they did, and who they ranked ahead of who. But if the daily racing form, timeform, racing post, sports illustrated, associated press, thoroughbred times, etc etc also made lists ranking the top 100 horses, I am sure they would rank horses differently. Who was greater (or better) is very debatable and subjective. Since this one B.h. list also ranked Buckpasser narrowly ahead of Damascus, ranked Bid narrowly ahead of Affirmed, ranked Slew narrowly ahead of Affirmed, ranked Swaps narrowly ahead of Nashua, ranked Man O' War ahead of Secretariat, ranked War Admiral ahead of Seabiscuit, ranked Majestic Prince ahead of Arts and Letters, ranked Round Table narrowly ahead of Bold Ruler, etc, this makes it true, correct and authoritative as to who was better? Not at all. They are all very debatable and subjective.
Heart: That Joe Hirsch quote was genuine and spot - on. "A classic classic! Everyone in the record crowd - and millions of others who watched on television - will remember the 1989 Preakness and its remarkable stretch duel as long as they live. Sunday Silence and Easy Goer were generosity personified as they battled. No quality of the Thoroughbred is more admired by racing men than courage, and these two outstanding horses gave everything they had in the Preakness. There was a winner, but there was no loser."
Point me to one link that claims Harthill stated that he gave Lil E Tee ILLEGAL drugs in the 92 KY Derby. Harthill admitted that he gave illegal blood-building drugs to Lil E Tee in the 92 Derby. Harthill mentioned this in the book "The Longest Shot: Lil E. Tee & the Kentucky Derby", by John Eisenberg. Why doesn't every publication (or even a few) on/off the web mention this about Lil E Tee's 92 Derby?
One of the best of all times races I had ever seen, I remember the race watching live on my sofa in LOUISVILLE KY. Just few couple of weeks after KY Derby win. Buitifull school memory. 1989 cannot be forgotten.
It's unclear to me whether P Val helped or hurt Sunday Silence in this race. It's possible that Sunday Silence would have been more successful if Chris McCarron had been his jockey in all of his races.
Pat Ron Franklin Esque Day (aka Pat Wait All Day, Pat Start Stop Start Stop Start Day, Pat a Day late, Pat Delay Day, Pat so passive & patient he could watch a faucet drip for days Day) himself said, "I was on the far superior, far better horse in Easy Goer, but we lost a few photos to him by the slimmest of margins totally due to rider errors on my part. I had FAR MORE HORSE than I knew what to do with. It was totally my fault." Shug McGaughey said, "Easy Goer was a Better Horse than Sunday Silence. Pat Day got Easy Goer beat. Day waited when he didn't need to wait. We had ss beat & then Day let ss back in the races. Pat Day & I agree that he made riding mistakes. Easy Goer was the better horse than sunday silence. Easy Goer was by far the best horse I ever trained, Easy Goer was the most talented horse I've ever had. Easy Goer's action was so athletic, so natural, so fluid; he glided over the track; he ran blazingly fast & did it so easily. Easy Goer captured the public; he was a brilliantly fast horse, exciting to watch, & he had a great following. I had always dreamed of having a horse like Easy Goer. Easy Goer is by far the best that I've ever had. What Easy Goer did in all races, you just don't see that anymore. Easy Goer wanted to do a lot, all the time. My job - I had a Porsche in Easy Goer - was to not drive it 200 miles an hour every day. My job was just to keep him level, & keep him reserved. He wanted to go. I was very young, very inexperienced & made many mistakes." Pat Banned 40 times for Drugs Valenzuela himself said, "Easy Goer was a Super Horse. In order for ss to even be close to Easy Goer, I had to do any & everything possible. I had to purposely & deviously force EG out as wide as can be down the backstretch & at every other point I could in races; & I had to purposely & deviously bang & push EG in as tight as can be scraping the dead rail. Arazi was the best horse I ever rode. Arazi could do more & was even a much better horse than sunday silence." Pat Banned 40 times for Drugs Valenzuela. "Bless his heart ss was so exhausted ss was practically dead, almost literally dead, without all of his illegal performance enhancing drugs & without his illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill." Charlie Whittingham himself said, "I am very angered that there is only 1 state in the whole country which bans all performance enhancing drugs, which bans all drugs, & also bans the illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill (Harthill admitted to illegally giving illegal performance enhancing drugs [Clenbuterol, Subliamze, Etorphine, etc] to the drug-reliant sunday silence) despite his criminal record (Harthill was arrested numerous times in many states [Kentucky, NY, Illinois, Ohio, Louisiana, etc] for illegally drugging numerous horses). I think ss maybe can be as good as EG, & maybe can be as Great as Easy Goer, but ONLY IF EVERYTHING goes ss's way." Case closed.
On the 2nd turn easy goer passes sunday silence bt 1 1/2 lenghts. Most horses would quit. But some horses just say "oh no you dont" and dig back in. Impressive
Sig EG nor Day shut him off. Sunday Silence's banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill told all how & why the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence beat the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer by the slimmest of margins in a few races. Harthill said, "You can only REVERE the horses (Easy Goer, etc) whom my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) defeated even more, to do all they (Easy Goer, etc) were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short (Easy Goer, etc) of horses (Sunday Silence, etc) who had been given performance-enhancing drugs (Sunday Silence, etc) by myself." The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer cremated the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence when ss was forced to run drug-free without any drugs in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. "Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic." How about the Belmont Stakes & the enormous amount of the other major G1 stakes races in New York? How about when the Breeders Cup took place in NY? Harthill was barred in NY. NY also was the only state in the entire country during that era which banned all drugs. NY also had the most advanced out-of-competition, training & raceday testing, & tested for an enormous amount of drugs. DRF 2001 Jay Hovdey: "Alex Harthill was BOLD ENOUGH to tell me (Jay Hovdey/DRF) how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in ENHANCING his horses PERFORMANCES. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol REGULARLY in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that HE ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE were Etorphine & Sublimaze. The drugs Harthill administered were being used to improve a horse's performance, & they were REMARKABLY EFFECTIVE. Harthill was the vet that manipulated horse races & he Publicly Acknowledged Doing So many times. Harthill said, 'I (Harthill) was used for horses (Sunday Silence, etc) pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses (Sunday Silence, etc) I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses (Easy Goer, etc) whom my horses (Sunday Silence, etc) defeated even more, to do all they (Easy Goer, etc) were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short (Easy Goer, etc) of horses (Sunday Silence, etc) who had been given performance-enhancing drugs (Sunday Silence, etc) by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride.' " Case closed.
Here is another from Jim McKay. "The greatest race I ever saw was the Preakness in 1989, when Easy Goer and Sunday Silence went at it. As they came down the stretch, their legs moved in unison as if they were a shadow of one another. Their heads bobbed up and down in unison too. There was absolutely nothing to choose between them. As the two horses came down the stretch, you could almost sense the size of the crowd's roar wasn't for one over the other, but for this pinnacle of competition. The 1989 Preakness Stakes was what a horse race should be. It had a kind of excitement you always hope for but seldom get."
Easy Goer was still perfectly capable of unleashing spectacular moves on the sharper turns, as he did when he romped in the 1989 Swale Stakes at Gulfstream in Florida. Easy Goer was also perfectly capable of staying close to SS on any and every track/track size as he did in all 3 Triple Crown races. Easy Goer had numerous weapons in his arsenal with brilliant natural speed, superb tactical speed, sensational athleticism, great agility and he was very versatile; he could go to the lead dictating pace & race running very fast fractions (Champagne, Suburban, etc); he could stalk, prompt and track up close to very fast pace's (Gotham, Belmont, Preakness, Travers, Cowdin, maiden, etc) dictating race & pace; and he had a devastating turn of foot with extraordinary, explosive, electrifying acceleration. A lot of it also had to do with riding styles/riding strategies and tactics, training/trainers etc. Easy Goer ran so many perennial all timer performances at every distance he ran, 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer had that peerless all timer talent, ability, constitution, speed-stamina combo. There is no way to downplay Easy Goer's numerous all timer performances. From the recent book Ride 2 win by Gary West and the DRF champions book, I quote: "At various points in races, Day would merely 'let' Easy Goer run, not asking him. With the red flash Easy Goer, a request to run was not needed; Day would sit motionless with no encouragement. Easy Goer loved to run, and in an INSTANT, Easy Goer would take off with accelerated BURSTS that were visually STUNNING, reminiscent of moves of other legendary Hall of Fame champions. Easy Goer also would unleash SPECTACULAR moves around turns over bigger, larger turns on bigger, larger tracks." Clearly, Easy Goer had instant acceleration at all points in races. Easy Goer was generally faster on straightaways and larger, bigger turns and larger, bigger tracks. SS was generally faster on sharper, smaller turns on sharper, smaller tracks. Although - as I said - Easy Goer was still capable of unleashing spectacular moves on the sharper turns, as he did when he romped in the Swale Stakes at Gulfstream in Florida. But a lot of it also had to do with riding styles/riding strategies and tactics, training/trainers etc. Easy Goer also ran many more races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs & medications. SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs & medications. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs/medications not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, and cannot be simplified when there are many more factors and variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses. Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor; Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple; Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce; Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom; Dr Fager got beat 2 out of 4 by Damascus; Pleasant Colony got beat 3 out of 4 by Akureyri; Triple Crown winner Sir Barton got beat 8 out of 12 by Billy Kelly; Skip Away got beat 4 out of 6 by Formal Gold; & there are an endless amount of other similar examples. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY LIMITED number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more that can be said other than head to heads.
The source is the booklet titled "2014 AAEP Symposiums, Meetings and Convention", and within it there are various articles, topics and studies, one of which is titled "Fatal Injuries and Deaths While Training and Racing of Racehorses in North America from 2008 to 2013" by E. McKerney, J. Wilburn, E. Collar and S.M. Stover. In order to view this on the internet you would have to register with the International Veterinary Information Service [IVIS], and you would also have to be one of eleven listed required veterinary/animal science professions to be able to register. If you are unable to register with IVIS, I'd be more than willing to mail it your PO Box, or take pictures of it and email it to you.
"Racing should be filled with SUPERIOR horses like EASY GOER, who did NOT require ANY drugs to perform at his best, & NOT DRUG-RELIANT horses like SUNDAY SILENCE, so we focus our attention on the sport instead of drugs. Could Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer without drugs? Could Sunday Silence win without drugs? He gave definitive & assertive replies to the questions: NO. Sunday Silence struggled home edging Le Voyageur but was thoroughly beaten, as the splendid Easy Goer sprinted off with the Belmont Stakes. Sunday Silence had been TREATED WITH DRUGS in the Kentucky Derby, Preakness & Breeders' Cup Classic when edging Easy Goer, but couldn't for the Belmont Stakes in New York, the one state where all drugs are banned. Easy Goer was free from all of the controversies about drugs, for ALL DRUGS are prohibited in New York, as they are in the rest of the racing world outside the US. The key questions that influenced racing all year was: Could Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer without drugs? Could Sunday Silence win without drugs? He gave definitive & assertive replies to the questions: NO. Sunday Silence struggled home edging Le Voyageur but was thoroughly beaten, as the splendid Easy Goer sprinted off with the Belmont Stakes. Racing should be filled with SUPERIOR horses like EASY GOER, who did NOT require ANY drugs to perform at his best, & NOT DRUG-RELIANT horses like SUNDAY SILENCE, so we focus our attention on the sport instead of drugs. Racing wears drugs like festering, self-inflicted wounds on the end of its nose opened by the ax of greed & stamped with the endorsements of every racing commission in the nation except New York's. Racing's drug dependency, like any drug problem, has become a major problem & tarnished the sport. It is to New York's merit & acclaim that their major races stand as giant hurdles to drug-reliant horses. Winning major races on drugs is not what racing is about." Paul Moran of DRF, LA Times & Newsday.
Did you see Easy Goer's great descendants - 1995 Breeders Cup Juvenile Fillies champion My Flag, who also won the CCA Oaks, Ashland, Gazelle and Bonnie Miss; 2002 Breeders Cup Juvenile Fillies champion Storm Flag Flying, who also won the Personal Ensign, Frizette, Shuvee and Matron; 2007 Breeders Cup Dirt Mile Champion Corinthian, who also won the Met Mile and Gulfstream Park Handicap; 2018 Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint Champion Bulletin; 1996 and 1997 Travers and Whitney Champion Will's Way; 2004 Cigar Mile Champion Lion Tamer; 2007 French 2000 Guineas Champion Astronomer Royal; 2006 Irish 2000 Guineas and St James's Palace Champion Araafa; 2013 Breeders Cup Marathon Champion London Bridge; 1999 Ballerina and Distaff Champion Furlough; Shuvee and Coaching Club American Oaks Champion Funny Moon; Molly Pitcher Champion Relaxing Rhythm; Jim Dandy winner Composer; Blue Grass Stakes winner Monba; Ogden Phipps Handicap Champion Tiz Miz Sue; Florida Derby and Holy Bull Stakes Champion Audible; Yellow Ribbon, Gamely, Del Mar Oaks Champion Magical Fantasy, and many others.
Of course Easy Goer won outside New York, the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs and medications. And in the process, Easy Goer ran the fastest 7f of the year in Florda while doing so. That's also like saying that Sunday Silence never won when racing without all drugs and medications. That's also like saying that SS never won on larger circumferenced tracks (lost 4 of 6) of 1 1/8 miles or larger.
Sigmund sig Bless his heart Easy Goer 14 wins drug-free without any drugs, ss 0 wins drug-free without any drugs. EG 14, ss 0; EG 1, ss 0. And ss was was practically dead when he was forced to run drug-free without any drugs in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well.
Both tremendous horses. Easy Goer-forced out very wide down the backside, then with that very rash, early, precipitative, gigantic & very bold burst of run, catapulting & soaring by like a shot, which was run into the teeth of a very fast pace. Then taken in hand, geared down, grabbed a hold after getting into best stride & passed narrowly. Then came again getting the lead & bumped, leaned on, boxed in, carried in & wedged in very tightly on the fence. Then in very tight & uncomfortable & directed to look his rival in the eye, causing him not to stride properly. Both fought with vigor, tenaciously & with distinction & fortitude in one of the best races ever.
Nothing better than two super racehorse's each being in front numerous times throughout most of the entire race and even after the race, and going nose to nose the length of the stretch.
Easy Goer did have a penchant for large winning margins and extremely speedy clockings( and they were extremely fast, even in the context of how slow or fast the surfaces were playing on those given days). He did win most of his races by large margins & running spectacularly fast times. His lack of experience in this type of race may have caused him to be very uncomfortable when in so tight on the rail & may have caused him not to stride properly late when uncomfortable and in very tight. This race, both horses were fighters and fought spectacularly.
No excuses when you lose 3 of 4 Grade 1 Steaks races to the same horse please don't shout how much better you are than him. So sad to hear this 30 years later ; Still sour Grapes.
@@thejammfam You can watch Easy Goer in the last stretch and see that he's uncomfortable and a bit distracted being jammed against the rail, and his pulling slightly to the right. That cost him the race.
@@richardernsberger5692 Easy Goer was a far superior horse. The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer was a far better horse than the drug-dependent & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence. Easy Goer ran many freakish performances on many different tracks & did it drug-free without any drugs & without the rider using the whip. Between the two horses, EG & SS, the ONLY horse of the 2 who got DRILLED was Sunday Silence when SS was forced to run drug-free without any drugs, & without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. Nothing will make that go away. Clearly, Sunday Silence was most definitely exposed as a drug-dependent fraud, as he was not only drilled & crushed by Easy Goer when forced to run drug-free w/o any drugs, but ss barely beat the turd claimer Le Voyageur. When ss was given all of his ped drugs he then romped over the turd claimer Le Voyageur in the Louisiana Downs Derby. Nothing will make that go away. SS LOST 4 RACES in his very short career on larger tracks with circumferences bigger than a mile, & 10 of his 14 career races were against a bunch of turds. Easy Goer won on all 3 sized tracks (8f, 9f & 12f sized tracks); sunday silence did NOT. Easy Goer won G1 races drug-free without any drugs at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f with much less time & rest between races at more fluctuating, different distances while carrying & conceding more weight, & ran faster times at all distances, & ran far superior speed figures & performance ratings at all distances, & he ran many more career races. Sunday Silence only won G1 races with performance enhancing drugs at 9f to 10f with much more time & rest between races, & ran far less career races. Nothing will make that go away. Sunday Silence was even afforded the benefit of (a) running with the performance enhancing drugs Lasix (6 length performance enhancement), Clenbuterol, etc., vs Easy Goer, while Easy Goer ran drug-free without any drugs, (b) EG going into the Derby with 13 days rest, with SS going into the Derby with a full months rest, & EG having cracks in BOTH front feet for the Derby & Preakness, as well as EG having a crooked turned-out left knee, a clubfoot, very problematic enlarged ankles & knees, short upright pasterns, & back at the knee, (c) in the Derby EG being cut off badly by Northern Wolf & Dansil, (d) in the Preakness having Valenzuela deviously force EG out 8 or 9 wide to the stables down the backstretch, then EG flew by & passed ss completely legally without shutting him off or cutting him off or forcing him to steady (this is confirmed by the 1989 Belmont Stakes Full Broadcast video showing the head-on video), then having Valenzuela deviously bang & push EG in as tight as can be scraping the dead rail, then having his awful rider turn his head out with the lead right before the wire, not to mention his inferior trainer & inferior rider making glaringly obvious major mistakes for/in many races, (e) EG was prepped in a 12f race for the 10f BC Classic (a longer prep race has the hazardous consequence of dulling natural speed and blunting the speed needed in a shorter race, while generating the horse's stamina at the expense of speed) with only a few weeks time between the 12f race & the 10f BCC, while SS had 6 weeks rest between his final 10f prep for the BCC, & EG suffered a bout of tympanic colic on BC Classic day (Ray Paulick declared this in his book), & Easy Goer still was only narrowly edged in a few races by the slimmest of margins to the performance-enhancing drugs-filled Sunday Silence, because ss was given the ped drugs Lasix & Clenbuterol. Everyone knows that Clenbuterol & Lasix are potent performance enhancing drugs. Performance enhancing drugs are NOT AT ALL grasping at straws. Performance enhancing drugs are NOT AT ALL making excuses. Nothing will make all of this go away. Secretariat got drilled & Lost Many Big Races to the TURDS Herbull, Master Achiever, Onion, Prove Out, Angle Light & Fleet n Royal by a Combined 11 Lengths while carrying feathery low weights. Citation lost 4 out of 5 times to Noor. Kelso lost 3 out of 4 times to Beau Purple. Forego lost 2 out of 3 times to Big Spruce & Wajima. Dr Fager lost 2 out of 4 times to Damascus by a combined 12 lengths. John Henry lost to Cabrini Green 4 out of 4 times. John Henry lost to Darby Creek Road 3 out of 3 times. Shuvee lost 4 out of 5 times to Gallant Bloom. Skip Away lost 4 out of 6 times to Formal Gold. Sir Barton lost 8 out of 12 times to Billy Kelly. Whirlaway lost 2 out of 3 times to Alsab. California Chrome lost 2 out of 3 times to Bayern, etc etc.
No one, not #Affirmed, not #SeatleSlew ,not #SpectacularBid not even the Great #Secretariat won The #BelmontStakes , The #Whitney , The #Travers , The #Woodward and The #JockeyClubGoldCup and The #Gotham in Record breaking performance in the same year and as a 3 Year Old. Amazing!!!!!
You are correct. Sunday Silence just gets overlooked but he did win all them big races. Kinda weird. I was 7 when I watched him race. I remember the ky derby Preakness belmont and breeders cup classic.
Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer made USA and European horse racing what it was, is and will always be. Easy Goer ran as fast and as fluid as any thoroughbred who ever ran, and still stands strong in thoroughbred history. Easy Goer combined blistering speed over sprint and mile distances with thoroughly brilliant stamina at classic distances, and he will always be mentioned in the same breath with the greatest of all time. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer is in the bloodlines of a numerous amount of G-1 winners in the USA and Europe. Easy Goer's daughter My Flag won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Ashland, G-1 Gazelle, G-1 Bonnie Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Corinthian won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, G-1 Met Mile, G-1 Gulfstream Park Handicap, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Storm Flag Flying won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Personal Ensign, G-1 Frizette, G-1 Matron, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Bulletin won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson London Bridge won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Marathon, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the Group 1 St. James's Palace Stakes, G-1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Astronomer Royal won the Group 1 French 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Will's Way won the Grade 1 Whitney Handicap, G-1 Travers Stakes, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Lion Tamer won the G-1 Cigar Mile, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Magical Fantasy won the G-1 Yellow Ribbon, G-1 Gamely, G-1 Ramona {Mabee}, G-1 Del Mar Oaks, G-1 Santa Barbara, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Audible won the G-1 Florida Derby, G-1 Holy Bull, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Funny Moon won the G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Monba won the G-1 Blue Grass, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Dynamic One won the G-1 Suburban, et cetera. Easy Goer's daughter Furlough won the G-1 Ballerina, G-1 Distaff, G-1 Honorable Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Composer won the G-1 Jim Dandy, et cetera. Easy Goer's daughter Relaxing Rhythm won the G-1 Molly Pitcher, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Tiz Miz Sue won the G-1 Ogden Phipps, et cetera. And many more.
Which words? The title & subtitles of the article are: "Kentucky Derby Doctor Alex Harthill Reveals Disgraceful Past: Harthill Reflects on Unlawful Life's Work. Harthill Discloses He Administered Forbidden Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Many American Classic Winners In The Kentucky Derby, Preakness And Breeders' Cup Classic." The title & subtitles are crystal clear & remove all doubts about what races Harthill gave the horses ped drugs; & they transmit clear claims made by Harthill about Sunday Silence, & he expressed it in as clear fashion as can be.
Like Forty Niner and Seeking the Gold in 1988; like Fraise and Sky Classic in 1992; like Arts and Letters and Majestic Prince; like Nashua and Swaps; like Damascus and Dr. Fager; like Exceller and Seattle Slew; like Noor and Citation; like Kelso and Beau Purple; like Summer Squall and Unbridled; like Silver Charm, Touch Gold and Free House; like Charismatic and Menifee in 1999.
Hovdey(HRTV-The Rivalry) & Crist(DRF Champions) both made valid points on this: "They were inches apart, but miles ahead of their contemporaries. In the absence of either, each would have been dominant Triple Crown champions with only history as a benchmark." "Without SS, Easy Goer would have been a Triple Crown champion with a long list of the most historical,prestigious races steeped in tradition(most by large winning margins & extremely speedy clockings) &would have statues erected & be up there with other Top 5 all time best horses. Without EG,SS would have also been a TC champion, but SS didn't have nearly the overall career,overall campaign & the long list of other historical,prestigious races(most by large winning margins & extremely all time fastest clockings) as Easy Goer did. Both great."
cominatcha, Why is your only goal & aim to comment with an endless barrages of trolling comments, THEN Delete & Erase ALL of them, then more endless barrages of comments, then delete & erase all of them, & to continue to do this endless cycle day after day after day? Why not just comment all that you want to & leave all of your endless comments on all of the videos, & not erase & delete all of them??
According to sunday silence's banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill in 2001 DRF, Harthill gave sunday silence the incredibly effective performance-enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine in the 89' KY Derby, Preakness & BC Classic.
Better is totally subjective. Easy Goer ran many many races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs & medications, showing who had a "big heart." SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs & medications. SS held the slight 3-1 edge in those races; those are facts. Who was better? Better is totally subjective. Many many greats were behind or tied on the head to head scoreboard - Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Skip Away, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, Round Table, Ancient Title, John Henry, Shuvee, Sir Barton among many others were behind or tied in head to heads. Who was better though? Better, like beauty is totally subjective. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more that can be said other than head to heads with other examples being: 1) Noor beat HOF champ Citation in 4 of 5 races head to head. 2) Beau Purple beat HOF champ Kelso in 3 of 4 races head to head. 3) Big Spruce & Wajima beat HOF champ Forego in 2 of 3 races head to head. 4) Damascus beat Dr Fager in 2 of 4 races head to head. Swaps and Nashua were 1 to 1 head to head. 5) Mehmet & Interco beat John Henry in 2 of 3 races. 6) Darby Creek Road also beat HOF champ John Henry in 3 of 3 races. 7) Cabrini Green also beat John Henry in 4 of 4 races. 8) Cutlass Reality beat HOY Ferdinand in 3 races. 9) Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champ Sir Barton in 8 of 12 races. 10) Formal Gold beat HOF champ Skip Away in 4 of 6 races. 11) Star of Cozzene beat HOY Kotashaan in 3 of 4 races. 12) Pretense beat HOF champ Native Diver 5 times. 13) Summer Squall beat champion Unbridled in 4 of 6 races head to head. 14) Heritageofgold beat HOF champ Silverbulletday in 3 of 3 races. 15) Clem beat HOF champion Round Table 3 times. 16) Crystal Water beat HOF champion Ancient Title 4 times. 17) Akureyri beat champion Pleasant Colony in 3 of 4 races. 18) Gallant Bloom beat Shuvee in 4 of 5 races, etc etc. The point is who was better in any way is totally subjective.
For about the last 40 years, I witnessed all the true greats in person- Secretariat, Forego, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, Bid and others. Since Spectacular Bid ran about 34-35 years ago, Easy Goer has by far been the greatest horse I have witnessed. Sunday is obviously also up there among them, as is Cigar, John Henry, Ghostzapper, Alysheba, Point Given, Smarty Jones, Skip Away and Holy Bull.
You can be damn sure, based on Sunday Silence's OFFICIAL RACE CHARTS in the OFFICIAL 88, 89 & 90 DRF & FIGS Form papers (with all OFFICIAL RACE CHARTS & PP's where they SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THE DRUGS), Wikipedia, the NY Post article, & on Harthill's voluntary admission to Hovdey in 01 DRF, that Sunday Silence ran on Clenbuterol, Sublimaze, Etorphine, the diuretic Furosemide, Banamine, acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, Naproxen & the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory Bute in the 89 Derby, Preakness, & Classic, & in all 13 of 14 of ss's career races outside drug-free NY. The OFFICIAL RACE CHARTS in the OFFICIAL 88, 89 & 90 DRF & FIGS Form papers (with all OFFICIAL RACE CHARTS & Past Performances where they SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THE DRUGS) all list EG as running drug-free without any drugs; while, ss was IN FACT OFFICIALLY listed (& specifically identified) as being administered the diuretic Furosemide (a potent diuretic in which a study of 23k races showed a 6 length enhancement) , Banamine (5 times more powerful than aspirin bute), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, Naproxen & the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory Bute in all 13 of his 14 career races outside drug-free NY, including the Derby, Preakness & Classic. Wikipedia states, "The trainer of Sunday Silence, Charlie Whittingham, was angered that the controversial veterinarian Alex Harthill, WHO TREATED SUNDAY SILENCE EARLIER for the KENTUCKY DERBY AND PREAKNESS, was not licensed in New York and prohibited from practicing. During that era, New York was the only state in America that banned all race-day drugs and medications; New York didn't allow horses to race on any drugs, while the rest of the country did." There is nothing more factual, certain & accurate than a voluntary admission. There can be nothing considered more direct evidence than a voluntary admission. There is nothing that can be more of an official source than a voluntary admission. A voluntary confession in the legal context characterizes the admission of wrongdoing. In criminal law, to confess is when one voluntarily states that one is GUILTY of a criminal offense. It is an admission of GUILT, admitting ALL FACTS necessary to establish GUILT AND for CONVICTION of a CRIME. A voluntary admission or confession is a declaration or acknowledgement (made orally or in writing) by one who HAS COMMITTED a felony or a misdemeanor stating that THEY COMMITTED the crime/offense or participated in its commission. Pleading GUILTY is the state or condition of a person who has committed a crime, a felony, misdemeanor or offense, with malicious intent. In pleading, it is a plea by which a defendant who is charged with a crime, a felony, misdemeanor or tort, admits or confesses it; & when he admits the charge in the indictment he answers or pleads guilty. Having committed a crime or tort; the word used by a prisoner in pleading to an indictment when he confesses the crime of which he is charged, & by the jury in convicting. According to Claiborne Farm Sire Info in 91-94 Stallion Directory's as well as other Stallion ad's, & Blood-Horse (Bowen), Thoroughbred Record & DRF (Hirsch) articles & quotes claim, "One of the many claims to fame for Easy Goer is, in an era of vast legal and illegal drug use, he ran his entire career drug-free in 20 starts for a total of well over 20 miles of racing." In a few 90's books I have on Claiborne Farm also quoting Claiborne Farm's President, Managers & Vets, they also claim EG ran drug-free: "From the day he was born, Easy Goer had a clubfoot, a crooked turned-out left knee, bad grapefruit sized ankles and knees, but he made up for it all by his exceptional balance, action and stride, and never ran on any drugs." I would say "ran" means ran a race. McGaughey ALSO stated, "Easy Goer had these issues, but he had such an outstanding way of going that he'd glide so smoothly. The issues didn't really bother him, he was so muscular, strong and competitive, he'd run through brick walls, and I never ran him on any medications. He never needed them." Why would they all, including McGaughey, make these statements? One reason is: "In the 1980's Kentucky law only allowed the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory bute to be given a MINIMUM of at least 24 hours, a FULL DAY, before a race, and up to 72 hours, three days, before a race, but not within 24 hours of a race, not on race-day of a race. However, the diuretic and painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, and Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid and Naproxen, all are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race." And the dosage of the aspirin bute given a minimum of 24 hours to 72 hours before (48 hours was/is the standard) a race was/is a 0.9-gram to 1.8-gram dose. If 0.9 grams of bute was given 24 hours before a race & a horse's post-race test, or if 1.8 grams of bute were given 48 hours before testing, what is the amount of bute actually remaining in the horse 24 to 48 hours post-administration? The half-life of bute in the horse is about 7.22 hours. This means that every 7.22 hours the amount of bute in the horse (& the horse's bloodstream) decreases by 50%. Dr Tom Tobin of Gluck Equine Research Center, has performed extensive research on the metabolism of bute, & reports that with a half-life of 7.22 hours, 90% of the bute remaining in the horse will be metabolized (gone from the horse) at the end of each day (24 hrs). In the first 24 hours, the amount of bute in the horse decreases by 90%. After another 24 hours, an additional 90% of the bute remaining in the horse is metabolized (gone from the horse). The horse now has only 1% of the original dose left in the system. This is what is present in the entire horse, including all its tissues, not just the bloodstream. The amount of bute in the bloodstream will be even lower. Another reason is they all don't think aspirin, bayer, aleve, ibuprofen, bute, motrin, advil or any other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, are drugs as they are certainly not illegal performance enhancing drugs, nor are they performance enhancing, & they are not stimulants, depressants, narcotics, opioids, opiates, potent diuretics, ergogenic drugs, blood boosters, blood doping drugs, corticosteroids, amphetamines, methylphenidate, ephedrine, noradrenaline, erythropoietin, epinephrine, potent bronchodilators, anabolic steroids, long-acting steroid injections, potent stimulants, or drugs that have the same effects as these & many other drugs. You can be damn sure that both Easy Goer & Sunday Silence both ran drug-free without any drugs (& without ss's banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well) when running in the Belmont Stakes in New York because NY was the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. You can be damn sure that even if the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin Bute was given it was given 1 to 2 days before a race (2 days before was/is the standard), or 24 to 48 hours before a race (48 hours was/is the standard). You can be damn sure that even if the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin Bute was given it was not given within 1 to 2 days of a race (2 days before was/is the standard), or 24 to 48 hours before a race (48 hours was/is the standard). You can be damn sure that even if the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin Bute was given it was not given within 1 to 2 days of a race (2 days before was/is the standard), or 24 to 48 hours before a race (48 hours was/is the standard), & it was not given on race-day of a race. Easy Goer was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute) or drugs (race-day medications/drugs) within a minimum of 24 hours (1 Full Day; & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career. EG was never given any medications (including the aspirin bute) or drugs on race-day (within a minimum of 24 hours or 1 Full Day & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career. EG also was never given any performance enhancing drugs in his career.
@@jamesfitzgerald6636 Of course NOT. Even with dying very young, Easy Goer is in the bloodlines of a numerous amount of G1 winners in the US & Europe. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the G1 St. James's Palace Stakes, G1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Astronomer Royal won the G1 French 2,000 Guineas, etc. Easy Goer's son Will's Way won the G1 Whitney Handicap, G1 Travers Stakes, etc . Easy Goer's daughter My Flag won the G1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G1 Gazelle, G1 Bonnie Miss, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Corinthian won the G1 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, G1 Met Mile, G1 Gulfstream Park Handicap, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Storm Flag Flying won the G1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G1 Personal Ensign, G1 Frizette, G1 Matron, G1 Shuvee, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Bulletin won the G1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint, etc. Easy Goer's grandson London Bridge won the G1 Breeders' Cup Marathon, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Lion Tamer won the G1 Cigar Mile, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Magical Fantasy won the G1 Yellow Ribbon, G1 Gamely, G1 Ramona, G1 Del Mar Oaks, G1 Santa Barbara, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Audible won the G1 Florida Derby, G1 Holy Bull, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Funny Moon won the G1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G1 Shuvee, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Monba won the G1 Blue Grass, etc. Easy Goer's grandson Dynamic One won the G1 Suburban, etc. Easy Goer's daughter Furlough won the G1 Ballerina, G1 Distaff, G1 Honorable Miss, etc. Easy Goer's son Composer won the G1 Jim Dandy, etc. Easy Goer's daughter Relaxing Rhythm won the G1 Molly Pitcher, etc. Easy Goer's granddaughter Tiz Miz Sue won the G1 Ogden Phipps, etc. And many more. Sunday Silence & Deep Impact both took over from Northern Taste &Tesco Boy as leading sire in the insular, restricted, big fish in small pond Japan. While a few Deep Impact's have had success with G1 wins in Europe, etc, it must be noted that he was bred to the best of the best Coolmore Galileo, Sadler's Wells & Giant's Causeway mares to do so in most cases - & in the other cases he was bred to the best of the best Niarchos family mares who are descendants of the great Miesque. Actually, Sunday Silence himself did not even sire one G1 winner in all of Europe & the US, & many attempted to, including Dance Partner, Dance in the Mood, Sundrop, Layman, Keep the Faith, Silent Name, Deep Impact {disqualified from 3rd place finish due to a positive drug test for an illegal drug}, To the Victory, Zenno Rob Roy, Heart's Cry, Sunday Joy, Seven Moons, Negotiator, Wild Sunday & others - All of these sons & daughters of Sunday Silence lost all of their G-1 races in Europe & the US. The many attempts that have been made to generate Sunday Silence's sire-line outside Japan have had very little to very modest success - sons of Sunday Silence that have stood at stud outside Japan in Europe, Australia and the U.S.A. have had very little to very modest success, including Divine Light, Born King, Keep the Faith, Layman, Tayasu Tsuyoshi, Real Impact, Bubble Gum Fellow, Genuine, Hat Trick, Silent Name, Fuji Kiseki, Fusaichi Zenon, Agnes Gold, Victoire Pisa, Neorealism, Brave Smash, Black Tuxedo, et cetera. Many horses without any SS blood have also been leading sires in Japan, including the aforementioned Northern Taste & Tesco Boy, as well as King Kamehameha, Symboli Kris S, Kurofune, Rulership, Harbinger, Sakura Bakushin O, Brian's Time & Lord Kanaloa. Many horses without any SS blood at all have been greats in Japan & worldwide, including all of these G1 winners: Panthalassa {G1 Saudi Cup & G1 Dubai Turf winner}, El Condor Pasa {G1 winner in Europe}, Taiki Shuttle {G1 winner in Europe}, Seeking the Pearl {G1 winner in Europe}, Lord Kanaloa, Vodka, TM Opera O, Jungle Pocket, King Kamehameha, Apapane, Narita Brian, Symboli Kris S, Meisho Samson, Rey de Oro, Agnes Digital, Mayano Top Gun, Air Groove, Grass Wonder, Tap Dance City, Sweep Tosho, Satono Crown, etc etc.
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Easy Goer had just as much trouble. Easy Goer got bumped numerous times by Valenzuela and SS around the turn and throughout the entire home stretch. Easy Goer had major trouble coming out of the gate. Pull up? That's wrong. In the Derby Easy Goer was cut off and shut off by Northern Wolf [who's jockey got suspended}. SS had to steady but he was not shut off or cut off. There are two videos to see this. The first one is the 1989 Belmont Stakes - Easy Goer: Full ABC Broadcast video. Go to the 11 minute point of the video to watch the full head-on video of the backside run of the Preakness. It actually was Pat suspended over 20 times for coke Valenzuela who actually was the one who floated EG very wide [8 or 9 wide] towards the barns on the back-side, and by trapping him and knocking him in very tight to the rail afterwards on the turn [so bad that Houston had to check] and thru the stretch. The full backside video doesn't show Pat ron franklin-esque Day shutting off or cutting off Pat suspended over 20 times for coke Valenzuela. The other video is the "Arthur Hancock on Sunday Silence" video uploaded by Blood-Horse. Interesting also to note that Silence's owner Arthur Hancock assumed, like most others, that Pat Day did. However, on the 'Arthur Hancock on Sunday Silence' video uploaded here on youtube by Blood-Horse, Hancock even admits he didn't by saying at the 8:50 point of the video, "Easy Goer swept past Sunday Silence, and it looked to me like he might have shut him off. Silence dropped back a length or two, and I said to my wife that Easy Goer just shut us off. That's what I thought looking through my binoculars. But he didn't, he did not, he was far enough out there." Pat suspended over 20 times for coke Valenzuela did outride Pat ron franklin esque Day, aka Pat start stop start stop start Day. So did McCarron for that matter. So did Pincay, Cordero, Stevens, Bailey etc. McGaughey and Day were both pitiful. McGaughey was and is the most conservative trainer of all-time who rarely trained his horses for speed, no matter how much big-time brilliant speed a horse like Easy Goer possessed. Pat ron franklin esque Day was the most tentative, passive, conservative, start-stop rider of all-time. Many of Pat Ron Franklin esque Day's rides on Easy Goer, Forty Niner, Seeking the Gold, Sky Classic, Turkoman, Heavenly Prize, Rampage, Timber Country, Menifee, Surfside, Java Gold, etc were Ron Franklin - esque! Pat ron franklin esque Day rode Easy Goer -- and many other horses -- like a teenager at the wheels of a Ferrari. Pat ron franklin esque Day never came to terms with the immense power and big-time speed at his disposal and how and when to use it. Go yield idle go, go yield idle go, inside, outside, back inside, back outside. Better or superior is definitely subjective. Having acknowledged that: Take nothing away from Sunday Silence as he was a great horse, but Easy Goer was a superior, greater, better, stronger and faster horse; Pat Valenzuela and Chris McCarron were better jockeys than Pat Day, a.k.a Pat ron franklin-esque Day; and the master trainer Charlie the Bald Eagle Whittingham was a better trainer than Claude Shug McGaughey. Would have been very interesting and great to see Easy Goer if he was trained and or ridden by Woody Stephens, Allen Jerkens, Bob Baffert, Wayne Lukas, Cordero, Bailey, Pincay, Stevens, Romero, Santos etc.
Who's better in any way is totally subjective. There are an endless amount of all time greats who were behind or tied in head to head records, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Shuvee, John Henry, Pleasant Colony, Serena's Song, Silverbulletday, Swaps, Nashua, Sir Barton, Skip Away and many others. There was the Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by SS against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of lesst han two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge vs EG with 3 wins coming in very close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type & Cro Lover. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor; Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple; Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce; Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom; Dr Fager got beat 2 out of 4 by Damascus; Pleasant Colony got beat 3 out of 4 by Akureyri; Triple Crown winner Sir Barton got beat 8 out of 12 by Billy Kelly; John Henry got beat 4 out of 4 by Cabrini Green; John Henry got beat 3 out of 3 by Darby Creek Road; Skip Away got beat 4 out of 6 by Formal Gold; & there are an endless amount of other similar examples. Easy Goer also ran many more races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs. SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs/medications not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, and cannot be simplified when there are many more factors and variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
It indeed was a great race between two great Hall of Fame champions. Neither horse was cut off or shut off. Both were immensely impressive. Go to the 11 minute mark of the video on here titled '1989 Belmont Stakes: Full ABC Broadcast,' where they show the full head-on video of the entire backstretch run of the Preakness. Valenzuela purposely took EG out to the parking lot on the backstretch, then EG made a giant early move to the lead and passed Valenzuela and SS totally legally without cutting them off at all. Then on the far turn through the entire stretch, Valenzuela was pushing and banging him in as tight as can be on the dead rail. Check out the 11 minute mark of the aforementioned video. Even the owner of SS Arthur Hancock, said in the video on here titled 'Arthur Hancock on Sunday Silence,' at the 9 minute mark that 'Easy Goer swept past SS and I thought he had shut us off but EG DIDN'T, EG was FAR ENOUGH OUT THERE.' Valenzuela, with his shenanigans, was trying to get EG and Day beat at all cost - with Valenzuela purposely taking Easy Goer and Day out to the parking lot down the entire backstretch, then Valenzuela purposely banging and pushing him in as tight as can be on the dead rail from the far turn through the entire homestretch. It was Valenzuela who was trying to "screw" Easy Goer and P Day. Not to mention Day's start stop start stop start riding and yanking EG's head out to the right to run sideways with his body being forced to stay straight being in as tight as can be on the dead rail with head turned sideways.
Pat Banned 40 times for Drugs Valenzuela himself said, "Easy Goer was a Super Horse. In order for ss to even be close to Easy Goer, I had to do any & everything possible. I had to purposely & deviously force EG out as wide as can be down the backstretch & at every other point I could in races; & I had to purposely & deviously bang & push EG in as tight as can be scraping the dead rail. Arazi was the best horse I ever rode. Arazi could do more & was even a much better horse than sunday silence." Pat Banned 40 times for Drugs Valenzuela. "Bless his heart ss was so exhausted ss was practically dead, almost literally dead, without all of his illegal performance enhancing drugs & without his illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill." Pat Ron Franklin Esque Day (Pat Wait All Day, Pat Start Stop Start Stop Start Day, Pat a Day late, Pat Delay Day, Pat so passive & patient he could watch a faucet drip for days Day) himself said, "I was on the far superior, far better horse in Easy Goer, but we lost a few photos to him by the slimmest of margins totally due to rider errors on my part. I had FAR MORE HORSE than I knew what to do with. It was totally my fault." Shug McGaughey & Charlie Whittingham both knew the truth as well. Shug said, "Easy Goer was a Better Horse than Sunday Silence. Pat Day got Easy Goer beat. Day waited when he didn't need to wait. We had ss beat and then Day let ss back in the races. Pat Day & I agree that he made riding mistakes. Easy Goer was the better horse than sunday silence. Easy Goer was by far the best horse I ever trained, Easy Goer was the most talented horse I've ever had. Easy Goer's action was so athletic, so natural, so fluid; he glided over the track; he ran blazingly fast & did it so easily. Easy Goer captured the public; he was a brilliantly fast horse, exciting to watch, & he had a great following. I had always dreamed of having a horse like Easy Goer. Easy Goer is by far the best that I've ever had. What Easy Goer did in all races, you just don't see that anymore. Easy Goer wanted to do a lot, all the time. My job - I had a Porsche in Easy Goer - was to not drive it 200 miles an hour every day. My job was just to keep him level, & keep him reserved. He wanted to go. I was very young, very inexperienced & made many mistakes." Charlie Whittingham himself said, "I am very angered that there is only 1 state in the whole country which bans all performance enhancing drugs, which bans all drugs, & also bans the illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill (Harthill admitted to illegally giving illegal performance enhancing drugs [Clenbuterol, Subliamze, Etorphine, etc] to the drug-reliant sunday silence) despite his criminal record (Harthill was arrested numerous times in many states [Kentucky, NY, Illinois, Ohio, Louisiana, etc] for illegally drugging numerous horses). I think ss maybe can be as good as EG, & maybe can be as Great as Easy Goer, but ONLY IF EVERYTHING goes ss's way."
The Classic was run at Gulfstream Park in Florida. And the 89 DRF Newspapers of the 89 Kentucky Derby, Preakness & Classic all IN FACT OFFICIALLY listed ss (& specifically identified) as being administered the diuretic Furosemide (a potent diuretic in which a study of 23k races showed a 6 length enhancement) , Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin Bute, & provides significantly more potent pain relief than aspirin Bute, & is far superior for relief of pain than aspirin Bute), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, Naproxen & the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory Bute; while all list EG as running drug-free without any drugs as he did in all 15 races run in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well.
Pat ron franklin-esque Day rode Easy Goer -- and some others -- like "a teenager at the wheels of a Ferrari. Pat ron franklin-esque Day never came to terms with the power at his disposal and how and when to use it." Pat ron franklin esque Day. Outside, inside, back outside, go yield idle go, go yield idle go, outside, inside, back outside.
After a slow start, not sure why Day felt the need to rush him to the front after a 23.3 quarter...but I'll always go back to Day turning the horses head towards Sunday Silence to "show him the competition." Sunday Silence was no slouch and certainly a more than worthy foe, but I'll always believe another jockey wins this race - even Ron Franklin.
Throughout Preakness week(as late as Friday,the day before the race), Easy Goer's front feet were being soaked in tubs of epsom salts due to cracks in both front heels & his ankles & knees were being ultrasound. It plausibly could have cost him. It plausibly could not have, and he may have won or lost either way.
Which words? Harthill described how he illegally gave Northern Dancer the illegal drug Furosemide in the hours before the Derby in 1964, affirming, "I got a vet I knew from out of town to come along with me. I told him I was going to turn to the right, & he would go that way & take this syringe down to barn 24, stall 23, & give this to that horse. There would be a guy there called Will. He'd be waiting. So he did it, while the gendarmes followed me." Harthill said, "I was used for horses pointing for, & running in, MAJOR RACES who NEEDED DRUGS & had INFIRMITIES. I earned the reputation I had. I am very proud of the horses I helped WITH DRUGS IN THEIR CAREERS. Drugs always go through changing stages of being detected on drug tests. What I focused on was what drugs enhanced performance, together with what drugs could conceal illegal drugs, along with what drugs didn't show up on drug tests. For these reasons, I gave my horses a considerable advantage. Trainers would say, Don't get me caught, but keep me worried. Even though a horse is 5 or 7 times larger than humans, the amount of dope needed to have an effect is so small. An amount on the tip of a match would be enough to flick up a horse's nose to get a spectacular result. By the time they got my horses to the starting gate they’d be leaping out of their skin. I administered illegal drugs throughout my career that INCREASED the performances of racehorses IN CLASSIC RACES, & almost all of the time I did so, my horses won. You can only revere the horses whom my horses defeated even more, to do all they were asked to do, just to fall a slight bit short of horses who had been given performance-enhancing drugs by myself. By doing so, I acknowledge that I effectively stole a large amount of money in my career, & cheated many other horses, trainers, owners & riders I competed against. Nonetheless, I consider my extensive doping as a mark of pride."
Pat Ron Franklin Esque Day said, "I was on the far superior, far better horse in Easy Goer, but we lost a few photos to him by the slimmest of margins totally due to rider errors on my part. I had far more horse than I knew what to do with."
@@sigscorpion9275 Sicko psycho troll, it is shown and posted above a million times just for you Travis West, aka sigsc, aka a million other names you use.
He pulled him back to much. Easy could out stamina any horse he raced against in 89. Look at him going away in the belmont. Most horses trip up in the Belmont because of its length. Logic would dictate you don't keep throttling back your horse. He did and it cost easy. Sunday was a great horse. Not saying he wasn't. Easy was thesuperior animal imo.
Exactly. I don't care what anyone says, I think easy wanted to look at his rival and maybe give him a bite. It's a horse domination thing. Easy knew he was the horse.
@@rickchyczewski576stupid. That was Patsy Day loosening a rein causing to turn Easy Goers head instead of keeping it straight for obvious reason, guess?
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You can create a new email address that doesn't have any of your personal info, then cancel and close it out afterwards. You justifying this disgustingly abominable and enormously deadly, cruel, immoral, unethical evil is indeed enormously evil, cruel, immoral, unethical and disgustingly abominable. You are totally wrong - it not only is found in the 2014 AAEP booklet and article by McKerney, Wilburn, Collar and Stover, it is also found on the internet at the International Veterinary Information Service [IVIS].
Snout-to-snout in a gem of a race involving two of the best with both having rough trips. Switched leads in unison, legs moved in unison, snouts bobbed up and down in unison, and they were the shadow of one another. The apex, the summit of racing.
Easy Goer is one of the best racehorses America ever produced, he is tough and at his best he is unbeatable, never beaten by more than 2 lengths, beautiful pedigree, the USA was so lucky to have him as a stallion, great loss for USA & Europe with him dying so premature, but big win for Horse Racing. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer made USA and European horse racing what it was, is and will always be. Easy Goer ran as fast and as fluid as any thoroughbred who ever ran, and still stands strong in thoroughbred history. Easy Goer combined blistering speed over sprint and mile distances with thoroughly brilliant stamina at classic distances, and he will always be mentioned in the same breath with the greatest of all time. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer is in the bloodlines of a numerous amount of G-1 winners in the USA and Europe. Easy Goer's daughter My Flag won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Ashland, G-1 Gazelle, G-1 Bonnie Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Corinthian won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, G-1 Met Mile, G-1 Gulfstream Park Handicap, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Storm Flag Flying won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Personal Ensign, G-1 Frizette, G-1 Matron, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Bulletin won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson London Bridge won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Marathon, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the Group 1 St. James's Palace Stakes, G-1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Astronomer Royal won the Group 1 French 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Will's Way won the Grade 1 Whitney Handicap, G-1 Travers Stakes, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Lion Tamer won the G-1 Cigar Mile, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Magical Fantasy won the G-1 Yellow Ribbon, G-1 Gamely, G-1 Ramona {Mabee}, G-1 Del Mar Oaks, G-1 Santa Barbara, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Audible won the G-1 Florida Derby, G-1 Holy Bull, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Funny Moon won the G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Monba won the G-1 Blue Grass, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Dynamic One won the G-1 Suburban, et cetera. Easy Goer's daughter Furlough won the G-1 Ballerina, G-1 Distaff, G-1 Honorable Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Composer won the G-1 Jim Dandy, et cetera. Easy Goer's daughter Relaxing Rhythm won the G-1 Molly Pitcher, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Tiz Miz Sue won the G-1 Ogden Phipps, et cetera. And many more.
@@sigscorpion9275 The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer never got beat by more than 2 lengths in a much longer career running many more races, while the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant Sunday Silence (in a much shorter career running far less races) got crushed by 8 widening lengths by the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer at equal weights when forced to run drug-free without any drugs, & also without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Sunday Silence also lost to Caro Lover, Houston, Prized in a G2 race (Easy Goer beat Prized by 25 lengths), & Criminal Type (only 5 pound weight difference). Easy Goer destroyed sunday silence. The maiden claimer Caro Lover beat sunday silence. The sprinter Houston beat sunday silence on ss's larger home track of Hollywood. Prized beat sunday silence in a G2 race on ss's larger home track of Hollywood (Easy Goer crushed Prized by 25 lengths). Criminal Type beat sunday silence on ss's larger home track of Hollywood. The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer Only lost by a little more than 1 length because Easy Goer carried 14 POUNDS more than fellow Hall of Fame Champion Housebuster, & Easy Goer carried 7 POUNDS more than Criminal Type. Criminal Type Carried 7 POUNDS LESS than Easy Goer. Housebuster carried 14 POUNDS less than Easy Goer; & Easy Goer carried 7 to 20 POUNDS more than other champions/G1 winners Black Tie Affair, Sewickley, Cryptoclearance, Slew City Slew, Proper Reality, De Roche, Montubio, Tricky Creek, etc & still beat all of them IN THIS G1 Met Mile, & also in the G1 Suburban, G1 Jockey Club Gold Cup, G1 Woodward, G1 Whitney etc. Criminal Type beat Sunday Silence while carrying only 5 pounds less than Sunday Silence. Common sense, as well as Newton's 2nd law of motion, tells us that if Criminal Type & Housebuster had carried equal weights, while generating the same kind of force they did in these races, they would have posted slower times & would have lost this race to Easy Goer. Common sense, as well as Newton's 2nd law of motion, tells us that if Easy Goer had carried equal weights, he would have posted a faster time & would have won this race over both Criminal Type & Housebuster. Case closed indeed.
The drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence is 0 for 5 when forced to run drug-free without any drugs. The drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence is 0 for 5 when forced to run without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. The drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence is 1 for 5 on larger tracks with circumferences bigger than 8f.
@@sigscorpion9275 The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer 14 wins drug-free without any drugs, & the drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant Sunday Silence 0 wins drug-free without any drugs; Easy Goer 14, SS 0; EG 1, ss 0.
The drug-reliant & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant Sunday Silence got crushed by 8 widening lengths by the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer at equal weights when forced to run drug-free without any drugs, & also without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill. Sunday Silence also lost to Caro Lover, Houston, Prized in a G2 race (Easy Goer beat Prized by 25 lengths), & Criminal Type (only 5 pound weight difference). The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer Only lost by a little more than 1 length because Easy Goer carried 14 POUNDS more than fellow Hall of Fame Champion Housebuster, & Easy Goer carried 7 POUNDS more than Criminal Type. Criminal Type Carried 7 POUNDS LESS than Easy Goer. Housebuster carried 14 POUNDS less than Easy Goer; & Easy Goer carried 7 to 20 POUNDS more than other champions/G1 winners Black Tie Affair, Sewickley, Cryptoclearance, Slew City Slew, Proper Reality, De Roche, Montubio, Tricky Creek, etc & still beat all of them IN THIS G1 Met Mile, & also in the G1 Suburban, G1 Jockey Club Gold Cup, G1 Woodward, G1 Whitney etc. Criminal Type beat Sunday Silence while carrying only 5 pounds less than Sunday Silence. Common sense, as well as Newton's 2nd law of motion, tells us that if Criminal Type & Housebuster had carried equal weights or weight for age, while generating the same kind of force they did in these races, they would have posted slower times & would have lost this race to Easy Goer. Common sense, as well as Newton's 2nd law of motion, tells us that if Easy Goer had carried equal weights or weight for age, he would have posted a faster time & would have won this race over both Housebuster & Criminal Type. Case closed.
People who saw Hovdey's article & wrote about it DID mention this & other facts. Why did they only focus on Harthill's illegal administration of the diuretic Furosemide to ND & Harthill's introduction & illegal use of Clenbuterol in the 1980's? Perhaps, because these 2 drugs became the most widely used, most popular, most influential LEGAL (BOTH) drugs, among numerous other drugs, used. In the Natalie Voss 1/15/2020 article titled, "When It Comes To Lasix (Furosemide) And Federal Legislation, Horse Racing Has Been Here Before," Voss states, "Controversial veterinarian Alex Harthill ADMITTED to using furosemide on Fear A Bit, a runner on the undercard of the 1974 Kentucky Derby , at about 2 p.m. on race day. The horse ran significantly better than he had in his past several starts and officials wanted to know why." That's incorrect & also 10 years after Harthill admitted to Hovdey that he illegally gave the illegal drug to ND. Why didn't Voss mention that, Harthill, in his infamous cloak & dagger doping scheme story, admitted to Hovdey that he illegally gave the illegal diuretic drug to the famous horse Northern Dancer in the actual Derby in 1964 a FULL TEN years prior to an UNKNOWN horse named Fear a Bit who only ran in a meaningless undercard race?? Did Voss NOT want to denigrate the famous Northern Dancer (& his trainer), & so instead only mentioned an unknown horse who ran in a meaningless undercard race a full 10 years later? And no mention of the famous horses (& trainers) Harthill treated in the actual 1974 Derby itself. Did Voss NOT want to denigrate the famous horses (& trainers) who ran in the 1974 Derby? By the same token, Harthill also admitted he gave the same illegal diuretic diuretic drug Furosemide to other famous horses Proud Clarion, Kauai King, Lucky Debonair, Majestic Prince, Forward Pass & Master Derby. Why didn't Voss & others mention these other famous horses (& trainers)? Perhaps, Voss didn't want to denigrate these other famous horses & trainers? Perhaps, because Furosemide became so popular, influential & legal in every state except NY? Perhaps, because ND was the most famous, or the cloak & dagger illegal doping scheme? By the same token, Harthill admitted to Hovdey of illegally giving the famous Sunday Silence the illegal ped drug Clenbuterol (plus the other 2 drugs). Harthill also admitted to Hovdey that he gave the illegal drug Clenbuterol to other famous 80's horses Ferdinand [Whittingham], Spend a Buck, Wild Again, Alysheba, Skywalker, Unbridled, Gate Dancer, Sunny's Halo, Gato Del Sol, Deputed Testamony, Lil E Tee, Black Tie Affair, etc. Why did other articles only mention that Harthill introduced Clenbuterol (& mentioned Sublimaze also) in the ‘80s & trainers who knew (or used) Harthill benefited greatly, with no mention of any of the 80's horses? Why did other articles mention Sublimaze & a test for it only starting in 1979 (but from 79 to 95, the only state that banned it & all other drugs was NY)? Perhaps, they also did not want to denigrate SS (& his trainer) & these other 80's horses & their trainers? Perhaps, because Clenbuterol became so popular, influential & LEGAL in every state except NY. Perhaps, some of these people want to portray that Furosemide, Clenbuterol, Sublimaze, etc., are just fine & no big deal, & they do not want to tell the truth & expose this stuff about a sport & industry that employs them. When the racing writer Bill Nack exposed facts about fatal injuries & the use of both legal & illegal drugs, calling both "appalling & unacceptable by any humane standard", many in racing not only turned against Nack as a result, they despised him for it. Perhaps many despise Hovdey & many others for exposing this or parts of it, & others do not want to tell the truth & expose this stuff about a sport & industry that employs them. DRF began listing only the 2 aforementioned drugs starting on 7/1/90, & Equibase charts for horses started to be available here online for races starting with races that took place on or after 1/1/91 to the present time. Looking up the great master trainer Charlie Whittingham & all of his graded stakes winners charts here online on Equibase for his stakes winners races from 1/1/91 until his death in 1999, I found all of these Whittingham trained graded stakes winners (all can be found looking them or Whittingham up on Equibase): Strodes Creek (Arthur Hancock owned like SS), Rainbow Blues, Urgent Request, Perfect, Aube Indienne, the aforementioned Flawlessly (all races trained by Whittingham outside drug-free NY), Numerous, Sir Beaufort, Qathif, Miss Alleged, Campagnarde, & Royal Touch, & they all ran with Lasix &/or Bute in all or almost all of their races under Whittingham; while Compelling Sound ran with Lasix &/or Bute in some races, Golden Pheasant ran with Bute in most races, Anshan ran with Lasix & Bute in some races, & The Prime Minister ran with Bute in all but 1 career race. The big problem, however, is DRF (starting 7/1/90) & Equibase (starting for races on or after 1/1/91 until the present time) ONLY published info on the use of the diuretic drug Furosemide & the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory Bute. This is in fact only a very small part of the drugs story. Out of NY, in most racing states there are numerous types of diuretics, painkillers, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory's & other drugs permitted; literally, hundreds of drugs permitted. So some horses listed as running with the diuretic drug Furosemide &/or the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory Bute, or some horses listed as running without any drugs, might have been running instead, or also, with the diuretics & painkillers hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic acid, Torasemide, Flunixin (Banamine), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid or Naproxen, etc. (like SS), literally hundreds of drugs. The only Whittingham horse who didn't was a horse from Europe who only ran in the US in 2 or 3 races under Whittingham. The illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill (admittedly) is the one who administered all of the illegal performance enhancing drugs (to SS & many other horses), all of the powerful illegal stimulants, narcotics, opioids, opiates, potent diuretics, ergogenic drugs, blood boosters, blood doping drugs, corticosteroids, amphetamines, methylphenidate, ephedrine, noradrenaline, erythropoietin, epinephrine, potent bronchodilators, anabolic steroids, long-acting steroid injections, or drugs that have the same effects as these & many other rugs. Direct evidence, voluntary admission (nothing more factual than a voluntary admission) & direct quotes from the DRF/Hovdey article: "Sunday Silence's veterinarian Alex Harthill, toward the end of his life, was BOLD ENOUGH to TELL ME (Hovdey) how he illegally gave numerous horses illegal drugs, INCLUDING Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine TO SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally breaking the laws in enhancing his horses performances. Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing Bronchodilator drug Clenbuterol regularly in the 1980's on his horses, 15 years before it was approved by the FDA, INCLUDING USING IT ON SUNDAY SILENCE. Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing drug Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally ADMINISTERED IT TO SUNDAY SILENCE, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. Some of Harthill's other drugs that he ADMINISTERED TO SUNDAY SILENCE (& other horses) were Etorphine & Sublimaze."
Better or best in any way is totally subjective for either side. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses. Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor; Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple; Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce; Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom; Dr Fager got beat 2 out of 4 by Damascus; Pleasant Colony got beat 3 out of 4 by Akureyri; Triple Crown winner Sir Barton got beat 8 out of 12 by Billy Kelly; Skip Away got beat 4 out of 6 by Formal Gold; & there are an endless amount of other similar examples. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type, and Cro Lover. There was also the Belmont where Easy Goer clobbered him. Balanced against that are two wins by Sunday Silence against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of less than two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge against EG with 3 wins coming in close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer also ran many more races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs & medications. SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs & medications. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs/medications not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, and cannot be simplified when there are many more factors and variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more that can be said other than head to heads.
Easy Goer was the Equivalent of Tom Brady and the 2007 and 2011 Patriots, as well as the equivalent of Mickey Mantle and the 1960 New York Yankees. Both were all-time greats, but Easy Goer was superior, better and faster than Sunday Silence, though Easy Goer had an inferior overly tentative, timid, hesitant trainer and an inferior overly timid, hesitant, tentative rider. Tom Brady was superior and better than Eli Manning, yet Brady lost a few very close Super Bowl's to Eli Manning. The 1960 NY Yankees were superior and better than the 1960 Pirates, yet they lost the World Series in 7 games. Others note that many greats were behind (or tied) on the head-to-head scoreboards like Kelso (Beau Purple was 3-1 over Kelso), Citation (Noor was 4-1 over Cy), Pleasant Colony (Akureyri was 3-1 over PC), Shuvee (Gallant Bloom was 4-1 over Shuvee), Dr. Fager (2-2 with Damascus), Skip Away (Formal Gold was 4-2 over SA), Unbridled (Summer Squall was 4-2 over U), and John Henry, Forego, Sir Barton and many others. It doesn't mean that SS, Noor, Beau Purple, etc., or the Pirates, Eli Manning and his teams, were all undeserved and unworthy, they all were worthy. Despite losing the the 1960 World Series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and scored more than twice as many runs as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees had all time greats Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Whitey Ford, Yogi Berra, Bobby Richardson, Elston Howard, Bobby Shantz, etc. The World Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team. Richardson had 11 hits in the series in 30 total at-bats, good for a .367 batting average; he hit 2 doubles, 2 triples and a home run and led all players with 12 RBI. In 25 at-bats for the Yankees, Mickey Mantle hit .400 with 3 home runs and 11 RBI. Both his batting average and home run total were better than eventual MVP Bobby Richardson. The Yanks manager Casey Stengel pitched starting ace Hall of Fame pitcher Whitey Ford only twice in Games 3 and 6, instead of Games 1, 4 and 7. This was the primary factor that led to Stengel being fired. The 1960 World Series was one of the best performances in Whitey Ford's storied World Series career; he was the best pitcher to take the mound from either team. Whitey Ford won both of his starts in the 1960 World Series to finish with a 2-0 record. In these 2 starts, Ford allowed no runs while compiling a 0.00 ERA in 18.0 innings pitched; Ford threw back-to-back complete game shutouts in the World Series. The Yankees outscored the Pirates 55-27 in this Series, out-hit them 91-60, out-batted them .338 to .256, hit 10 home runs to Pittsburgh's 4, got 2 complete-game shutouts from Whitey Ford-but lost. The Yankees outscored, out-hit, out-pitched and outplayed the Pirates, but lost the 7 game series.
Connections of Sunday Silence must have felt like the Most Fortunate Connections in History by Having a 3 to 1 Record against Easy Goer...Run The Preakness and Classic over again 3 Times and Sunday Silence would have been Lucky to Win Once...Pat Day Would have been more aware in those Races and Showed more Tactical rides and Showed SS some respect...Pat Day Rode those Races Like he Thought he Could do anything with Easy Goer and still Win by open lengths...He was Too Spoiled aboard Easy Goer
"Racing should be filled with SUPERIOR horses like EASY GOER, who did NOT require ANY drugs to perform at his best, & NOT INFERIOR DRUG-RELIANT horses like SUNDAY SILENCE. Could Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer without drugs? Could Sunday Silence win without drugs? He gave definitive & assertive replies to the questions: NO. Sunday Silence struggled home edging Le Voyageur but was thoroughly beaten, as the splendid Easy Goer sprinted off with the Belmont Stakes. Sunday Silence had been TREATED WITH DRUGS in the Kentucky Derby, Preakness & Breeders' Cup Classic when edging Easy Goer, but couldn't for the Belmont Stakes in New York, the one state where all drugs are banned. Easy Goer was free from all of the controversies about drugs, for ALL DRUGS are prohibited in New York, as they are in the rest of the racing world outside the US. The key questions that influenced racing all year was: Could Sunday Silence beat Easy Goer without drugs? Could Sunday Silence win without drugs? He gave definitive & assertive replies to the questions: NO. Sunday Silence struggled home edging Le Voyageur but was thoroughly beaten, as the splendid Easy Goer sprinted off with the Belmont Stakes. Racing should be filled with SUPERIOR horses like EASY GOER, who did NOT require ANY drugs to perform at his best, & NOT INFERIOR DRUG-RELIANT horses like SUNDAY SILENCE, so we focus our attention on the sport instead of drugs. Racing wears drugs like festering, self-inflicted wounds on the end of its nose opened by the ax of greed & stamped with the endorsements of every racing commission in the nation except New York's. Racing's drug dependency, like any drug problem, has become a major problem & tarnished the sport. It is to New York's merit & acclaim that their major races stand as giant hurdles to drug-reliant horses. Winning major races on drugs is not what racing is about." Paul Moran of DRF, LA Times & Newsday.
I have never had the pleasure of anyone stating either of these two horses going to nose to nose would be a "tremendous failure" on either horses part, or that both going to nose to nose weren't showing tremendous fight & fighting with vigor,tenaciousness, fortitude & distinction by both horses. Really?
@@Kimberlytheresam That's completely subjective. And even Secretariat LOST MANY races to 7 bottom level horses (Herbull, Fleet n Royal, Onion, Prove Out, Angle Light, Master achiever, etc) by a combined 12 lengths while carrying feathery low weights.
Great Genetics have definitely moved on to new generations for Easy Goer, Sunday Silence and Deep Impact. The influence of Easy Goer and Sunday Silence on the breeding of racehorses worldwide is incredible. Even with dying very premature, Easy Goer is in the bloodlines of a numerous amount of G-1 winners in the USA and Europe. Easy Goer's grandson Araafa won the Group 1 St. James's Palace Stakes, G-1 Irish 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Astronomer Royal won the Group 1 French 2,000 Guineas, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Will's Way won the Grade 1 Whitney Handicap, G-1 Travers Stakes, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike daughter My Flag won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Ashland, G-1 Gazelle, G-1 Bonnie Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike grandson Corinthian won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile, G-1 Met Mile, G-1 Gulfstream Park Handicap, et cetera. Easy Goer's granddaughter Storm Flag Flying won the Grade 1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, G-1 Personal Ensign, G-1 Frizette, G-1 Matron, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike grandson Bulletin won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson London Bridge won the G-1 Breeders' Cup Marathon, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike grandson Lion Tamer won the G-1 Cigar Mile, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike granddaughter Magical Fantasy won the G-1 Yellow Ribbon, G-1 Gamely, G-1 Ramona {Mabee}, G-1 Del Mar Oaks, G-1 Santa Barbara, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Audible won the G-1 Florida Derby, G-1 Holy Bull, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike granddaughter Funny Moon won the G-1 Coaching Club American Oaks, G-1 Shuvee, et cetera. Easy Goer's grandson Monba won the G-1 Blue Grass, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike grandson Dynamic One won the G-1 Suburban, et cetera. Easy Goer's daughter Furlough won the G-1 Ballerina, G-1 Distaff, G-1 Honorable Miss, et cetera. Easy Goer's son Composer won the G-1 Jim Dandy, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike daughter Relaxing Rhythm won the G-1 Molly Pitcher, et cetera. Easy Goer's lookalike granddaughter Tiz Miz Sue won the G-1 Ogden Phipps, et cetera. And many more. Great Genetics have definitely moved on to new generations for Easy Goer, Sunday Silence and Deep Impact. However, none of these compare to Galileo, Danehill, Sadler's Wells, Northern Dancer, Mr. Prospector, Danzig, Native Dancer, Bold Ruler, Man o' War and some others. Dubawi, Tapit, Curlin, Sea the Stars and Frankel may be on their way to these aforementioned sires above. The great Japanese sires Sunday Silence and Deep Impact both took over from Northern Taste and Tesco Boy as leading sire in the insular, restricted, big fish in small pond Japan. While a few Deep Impact's have had success with G-1 wins in Europe, et cetera, it must be noted that he was bred to the best of the best Coolmore Galileo, Sadler's Wells and Giant's Causeway mares to do so in most cases - and in the other cases he was bred to the best of the best Niarchos family mares who are descendants of the great Miesque. Actually, Sunday Silence himself did not even sire one G-1 winner in all of Europe and the U.S.A., and many attempted to, including Dance Partner, Dance in the Mood, Sundrop, Layman, Keep the Faith, Silent Name, Deep Impact {disqualified from 3rd place finish due to a positive drug test for an illegal drug}, To the Victory, Zenno Rob Roy, Heart's Cry, Sunday Joy, Seven Moons, Negotiator, Wild Sunday and others - All of these sons and daughters of Sunday Silence lost all of their G-1 races in Europe and the U.S.A. The many attempts that have been made to generate Sunday Silence's sire-line outside Japan have had very little to very modest success - sons of Sunday Silence that have stood at stud outside Japan in Europe, Australia and the U.S.A. have had very little to very modest success, including Divine Light, Born King, Keep the Faith, Layman, Tayasu Tsuyoshi, Real Impact, Bubble Gum Fellow, Genuine, Hat Trick, Silent Name, Fuji Kiseki, Fusaichi Zenon, Agnes Gold, Victoire Pisa, Neorealism, Brave Smash, Black Tuxedo, et cetera. Japan's great successes cannot be attributed only because Sunday Silence and Deep Impact. While SS's blood is oversaturated in Japan, some horses without any SS blood have also been leading sires in Japan, including the aforementioned Northern Taste and Tesco Boy, as well as King Kamehameha, Symboli Kris S, Kurofune, Rulership, Harbinger, Sakura Bakushin O, Brian's Time and Lord Kanaloa. Many horses without any SS blood at all have been greats in Japan and worldwide, including all of these G-1 winners: Panthalassa {G-1 Saudi Cup & G-1 Dubai Turf winner}, El Condor Pasa {G-1 winner in Europe}, Taiki Shuttle {G-1 winner in Europe}, Seeking the Pearl {G-1 winner in Europe}, Lord Kanaloa, Vodka, TM Opera O, Jungle Pocket, King Kamehameha, Apapane, Narita Brian, Symboli Kris S, Meisho Samson, Rey de Oro, Agnes Digital, Mayano Top Gun, Air Groove, Grass Wonder, Tap Dance City, Sweep Tosho, Satono Crown, etc etc.
The Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer's career accomplishments and body of work were far superior to the drug-reliant and illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence. Easy Goer was ranked far ahead of ss in The Greatest Horse of All Objective rankings book by Charles Justice; Timeform's Racing Expert Historian Simon Rowlands also ranked Easy Goer ahead and better than ss as did many other racing experts; but subjective nor objective rankings both mean nothing anyways. The litmus test of a champion is winning drug-free without any performance enhancing drugs at all, and the Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer Obliterated the drug-dependent and illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence in the only state in the whole country at the time which banned all drugs (and, as importantly, also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well; Harthill was arrested an endless amount of times for illegally drugging an endless amount of horses). During that era, it was a huge credit to NY [& the rest of the whole world] that the endless amount of their championship G1 races stood as humongous, gigantic obstacles to drug-dependent horses like ss; and these horses, like ss and many others, got exposed badly when they were forced to run drug-free with no-drugs at all. ONLY no-drugs drug-free races were/are true championship races. Only the drug-free no-drugs races could/can be called championship races. Only No-drug drug-free races kept/keep the outcomes crystal clear. No-drug drug-free races are the only true tests of champions. That is integrity, honesty, fair play & complete fairness for all. And, Alex Harthill confessed to illegally giving illegal performance enhancing drugs to ss; but he couldn't do so in the only state in the whole country at the time which banned all drugs and banned Alex Harthill as well. The drug-dependent and illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence got obliterated when he couldn't get all of his performance enhancing drugs from his illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs (and also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well). Talk about a horse that needed to bring his illegal performance enhancing drugs and illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill with him - ss is just that horse, a drug-reliant horse, an illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant horse! The drug-reliant & illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence NEEDED EVERYTHING in his favor to beat the Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins in a few races. The drug-dependent and illegal criminal veterinarian Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence LOST 4 RACES on larger tracks with circumferences bigger than a mile (including ss having a LOSING RECORD while LOSING 3 races at his larger HOME track at the bigger circumferenced Hollywood Park track). Talk about a horse that needed to bring his track with him, ss is just that horse! Meanwhile, the Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer won Drug-free G1's at 7f, 1 mile, 1 1/8m, 1 1/4m & 1 1/2m on all 3 sized tracks (8f, 9f & 12f sized tracks) drug-free with much less rest and time between races and ran far more races with faster times at all distances and ran far superior speed figures and far superior performance ratings; while the drug-dependent and illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence only won G1's with performance enhancing drugs and his illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill and only at 9f to 10f only with performance enhancing drugs and only on small 8f sized tracks and with much more rest and time between races and ran far less races even with performance enhancing drugs. Talk about a horse that needed to bring his illegal performance enhancing drugs and illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill with him - ss is just that horse, a drug-reliant horse, an illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-reliant horse! Talk about a horse that needed to bring his one sized small 8f track with him, ss is just that horse.
cominatcha, why do you totally waste your time & delete 99% of your comments? "That the drug-free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer was the better horse than the drug-reliant & criminal juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant sunday silence if officially clear as day." It means as much or as little as all the scoreboards reading Noor 4, Citation 1; Beau Purple 3, Kelso 1; Cabrini Green 4, John Henry 0; Darby Creek Road 3, John Henry 0; Gallant Bloom 4, Shuvee 1; Akureyri 3, Pleasant Colony 1; Big Spruce 2, Forego 1; Damascus 2, Dr Fager 2; Formal Gold 4, Skip Away 2; Billy Kelly 8, Sir Barton 4; Star of Cozzene 3, Kotashaan 1; Summer Squall 4, Unbridled 2; & an endless amount more. In the Test of the Champion drug-free Belmont Stakes Easy Goer killed ss; like drug-free wheat separating from drugged chaff, the drug-free cream rose to the top. Easy Goer ran drug-free in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, which banned all performance enhancing drugs; while the drug-reliant & criminal juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant ss got exposed badly & romped when he was forced to run drug-free with no-drugs at all. The great drug-free Hall of Fame champion Easy Goer showed the world how to obliterate the drug-reliant sunday silence. The litmus test of a champion is running & winning drug-less without any performance enhancing drugs; & during that era New York was the only state in the entire country that banned all drugs. Plus, as importantly, New York banned & didn't allow the criminal juicer doper veterinarian of ss Alex Harthill [arrested an endless amount of times for illegally doping/juicing an endless amount of horses] to perform his magic & juice the drug-reliant & criminal juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant ss. During that era, it was a huge credit to NY [& the rest of the whole world] that the endless amount of their championship G1 races stood as humongous, gigantic obstacles to drug-dependent horses like ss; & these horses, like ss & many others, got exposed badly when they were forced to run drug-free with no-drugs at all. ONLY no-drugs drug-free races were/are true championship races. Only the drug-free no-drugs races could/can be called championship races. No-drug races kept/keep the outcomes crystal clear. No-drug races are the only true tests of champions. That is integrity, honesty, fair play & complete fairness for all. In the drug-free EG's few very slim losses by the narrowest of margins to the drug-reliant ss, ss needed all of his performance enhancing drugs administered to him & still only beat him by the slimmest of margins. Plus, The drug-free Easy Goer won G1 races at 7f, 1 mile, 9f, 10f & 12f drug-free with much less time & rest between races & ran many more races at more fluctuating, different distances in faster times with far superior speed figures & performance ratings; while the drug-reliant ss only won G1 races at 9f to 10f with his ped drugs & much more time & rest between races & ran far less races. And most importantly, Alex Harthill confessed to illegally giving illicit, illegal performance enhancing drugs to ss. I quote the DRF for the factual truths: "Harthill, toward the end of his life, was BOLD ENOUGH to tell Jay Hovdey of the Daily Racing Form how he illegally gave numerous horses (including Clenbuterol to SS) illegal drugs. Sunday Silence's veterinarian Alex Harthill ADMITTED illegally breaking the laws in enhancing his horses performances. In DRF articles in recent years & in the last few years of his life, SSilence's vet Alex Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing bronchodilator clenbuterol regularly in the 1980's 15 years before it was approved by the FDA on his horses, INCLUDING using it on sunday silence. SS's vet Alex Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing bronchodilator Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it to Sunday Silence, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. The drug Clenbuterol has a similar effect on the body as epinephrine & amphetamines by increasing the production of epinephrine & noradrenaline & thus significantly enhancing performance; clenbuterol also thins blood & widens the vessels that carry oxygen, so the volume of oxygen in the blood increases & thus significantly increases energy & thus significantly enhances performance; plus clenbuterol dramatically reduces body fat by causing rapid fat burning. The drug Clenbuterol performed miracles for horses who made inexplicable improvements with major enhancements in performance. Some of Harthill's other favorite magic making performance enhancing drugs were Etorphine (infinitely more powerful than the aspirin-like bute), Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin-like bute) & Sublimaze. The drugs Etorphine & Sublimaze are drugs that give horses such a sense of euphoria & well-being that they feel like they don’t have legs. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of controlled drugs, such as the powerful performance enhancing bronchodilator Clenbuterol, powerful steroids, loop diuretics, extremely powerful painkillers & very strong amphetamines, etc. Alex Harthill & raceday performance enhancing drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in North American racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times (Kentucky, Illinois, Louisiana, NY,etc) for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. The drugs were & are so potent that their use or nonuse dramatically alters horse's performances (including SS). Sunday Silence's vet Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history." Besides Harthill admitting it to the DRF, there is the CERTAINTY of MOUNDS of more evidence regarding Harthill's illegalities. Case closed.
I can't help but notice if Sunday Silence hadn't squeezed Eas yGoer into the rail, the later would probably have held on. It's got to have disrupted his rhythm having to think about not crashing into the rail. This is typical ending to such a nose to nose battle - the outer horse has the choice of finding firmer ground out wide or squeezing the opponent on to the rail - whereas the inner horse has no choice of where to go.
Easy Goer squeezed Sunday Silence against Houston's hind quarters..causing Sunday Silence to check and lose momentum at a critical point in the race.Also Pay Day said Easy Goer simply tanked out down the last furlong. It was a fair clean race coming around the last turn..Both had a legit chance to win the race
@@cominatcha6223 Yep. He tanked out because he was intimidated by Sunday Silence. Sunday Silence had a fierce, menacing look with ears pinned. Easy Goer is looking back at him with a concerned look. This is why Easy Goer lost all of their close battles. It also tells you truly who the superior horse was. Easy Goer also made Sunday Silence check before coming into the stretch so he was definitely the superior animal on this day.
Connor Duke Indeed. Easy Goer was a far superior horse. The True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer was a far better horse than the drug-dependent & banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill-dependent sunday silence. Easy Goer ran many freakish performances on many different tracks & did it drug-free without any drugs & without the rider using the whip. Between the two horses, EG & SS, the ONLY horse of the 2 who got DRILLED was Sunday Silence when SS was forced to run drug-free without any drugs, & without his banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill as well. Nothing will make that go away. Clearly, Sunday Silence was most definitely exposed as a drug-dependent fraud, as he was not only drilled & crushed by Easy Goer when forced to run drug-free w/o any drugs, but ss barely beat the turd claimer Le Voyageur. When ss was given all of his ped drugs he then romped over the turd claimer Le Voyageur in the Louisiana Downs Derby. Nothing will make that go away. SS LOST 4 RACES in his very short career on larger tracks with circumferences bigger than a mile, & 10 of his 14 career races were against a bunch of turds. Easy Goer won on all 3 sized tracks (8f, 9f & 12f sized tracks); sunday silence did NOT. Easy Goer won G1 races drug-free without any drugs at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f with much less time & rest between races at more fluctuating, different distances while carrying & conceding more weight, & ran faster times at all distances, & ran far superior speed figures & performance ratings at all distances, & he ran many more career races. Sunday Silence only won G1 races with performance enhancing drugs at 9f to 10f with much more time & rest between races, & ran far less career races. Nothing will make that go away. Sunday Silence was even afforded the benefit of (a) running with the performance enhancing drugs Lasix (6 length performance enhancement), Clenbuterol, etc., vs Easy Goer, while Easy Goer ran drug-free without any drugs, (b) EG going into the Derby with 13 days rest, with SS going into the Derby with a full months rest, & EG having cracks in BOTH front feet for the Derby & Preakness, as well as EG having a crooked turned-out left knee, a clubfoot, very problematic enlarged ankles & knees, short upright pasterns, & back at the knee, (c) in the Derby EG being cut off badly by Northern Wolf & Dansil, (d) in the Preakness having Valenzuela deviously force EG out 8 or 9 wide to the stables down the backstretch, then EG flew by & passed ss completely legally without shutting him off or cutting him off or forcing him to steady (this is confirmed by the 1989 Belmont Stakes Full Broadcast video showing the head-on video), then having Valenzuela deviously bang & push EG in as tight as can be scraping the dead rail, then having his awful rider turn his head out with the lead right before the wire, not to mention his inferior trainer & inferior rider making glaringly obvious major mistakes for/in many races, (e) EG was prepped in a 12f race for the 10f BC Classic (a longer prep race has the hazardous consequence of dulling natural speed and blunting the speed needed in a shorter race, while generating the horse's stamina at the expense of speed) with only a few weeks time between the 12f race & the 10f BCC, while SS had 6 weeks rest between his final 10f prep for the BCC, & EG suffered a bout of tympanic colic on BC Classic day (Ray Paulick declared this in his book), & Easy Goer still was only narrowly edged in a few races by the slimmest of margins to the performance-enhancing drugs-filled Sunday Silence, because ss was given the ped drugs Lasix & Clenbuterol. Everyone knows that Clenbuterol & Lasix are potent performance enhancing drugs. Performance enhancing drugs are NOT AT ALL grasping at straws. Performance enhancing drugs are NOT AT ALL making excuses. Nothing will make all of this go away. Secretariat got drilled & Lost Many Big Races to the TURDS Herbull, Master Achiever, Onion, Prove Out, Angle Light & Fleet n Royal by a Combined 11 Lengths while carrying feathery low weights. Citation lost 4 out of 5 times to Noor. Kelso lost 3 out of 4 times to Beau Purple. Forego lost 2 out of 3 times to Big Spruce & Wajima. Dr Fager lost 2 out of 4 times to Damascus by a combined 12 lengths. John Henry lost to Cabrini Green 4 out of 4 times. John Henry lost to Darby Creek Road 3 out of 3 times. Shuvee lost 4 out of 5 times to Gallant Bloom. Skip Away lost 4 out of 6 times to Formal Gold. Sir Barton lost 8 out of 12 times to Billy Kelly. Whirlaway lost 2 out of 3 times to Alsab. California Chrome lost 2 out of 3 times to Bayern, etc etc.
@@benjudah610 Hadn't hard Sunday Silence was om drugs, but will check it out more. All of Secretariat's were due to being entered sick or untrained, crashed at the post in a spring or ridiculous DQ. Without bad racing luck he whipped all comers and ran faster times at nearly all distances than even Easy Goer.
"The Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer met and fulfilled those dreams and expectations embodied in his powerful frame, and authored an unforgettable Hall of Fame championship career, and will always be mentioned in the same breath with the GREATEST of ALL TIME." Copying and pasting others quotes about the True Drug-Free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer is the GREATEST FORM of Flattery. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, when you imitate what others say, it’s the biggest compliment to those people you are imitating and copying and pasting!
It isn't bad at all. It's great, and many many greats were behind or tied on the head to head scoreboard - Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Skip Away, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Sir Barton among many others were behind or tied in head to heads. Who was better though? Better, like beauty is subjective and true in the eyes of the beholder. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances and at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, rider errors, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc and many many more. They were both great horses. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more that can be said other than head to heads with other examples being: 1) Noor beat HOF champ Citation in 4 of 5 races head to head. 2) Beau Purple beat HOF champ Kelso in 3 of 4 races head to head. 3) Big Spruce & Wajima beat HOF champ Forego in 2 of 3 races head to head. 4) Damascus beat Dr Fager in 2 of 4 races head to head. Swaps and Nashua were 1 to 1 head to head. 5) Mehmet & Interco beat John Henry in 2 of 3 races. 6) Darby Creek Road also beat HOF champ John Henry in 3 of 3 races. 7) Cabrini Green also beat John Henry in 4 of 4 races. 8) Cutlass Reality beat HOY Ferdinand in 3 races. 9) Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champ Sir Barton in 8 of 12 races. 10) Formal Gold beat HOF champ Skip Away in 4 of 6 races. 11) Star of Cozzene beat HOY Kotashaan in 3 of 4 races. 12) Pretense beat HOF champ Native Diver 5 times. 13) Summer Squall beat champion Unbridled in 4 of 6 races head to head. 14) Heritageofgold beat HOF champ Silverbulletday in 3 of 3 races. 15) Akureyri beat champion Pleasant Colony in 3 of 4 races, etc etc. The point is who was better in any way is subjective.
Travis West, aka an infinite amount of others - Who's better in any way is totally subjective. Noor beat Citation 4 out of 5 races. Citation was better. Beau Purple beat Kelso 3 out of 4 races. Kelso was better. SS held the 3-1 edge on Easy Goer. Easy Goer was better. Akureyri beat Pleasant Colony 3 out of 4 races. Pleasant Colony was better. Gallant Bloom beat Shuvee 4 out of 5 races. Shuvee was better. Formal Gold beat Skip Away 4 out of 6 races. Skip Away was better. Damascus beat Dr Fager 2 out of 4 races. Dr Fager was better. Big Spruce beat Forego 2 out of 3 races. Forego was better. Darby Creek Road beat John Henry 3 out of 3 races. John Henry was better. Cabrini Green beat John Henry 4 out of 4 races. John Henry was better. Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champion Hall of Famer Sir Barton 8 out of 12 races. Sir Barton was better. Summer Squall beat Unbridled 4 out of 6 races. And many more. The list is endless. They don't prove or disprove anything, and who's better in any way is totally subjective. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental and essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest and time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time and rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs and with much more rest and time in between races, in his much shorter career. Drug-Free races stood as huge obstacles to drug dependent horses like Sunday Silence and so many others. No-drug races keep the outcomes crystal clear. Drug-free races were/are a major factor in keeping the no-drugs races the true tests of champions. Winning any race on drugs was/is not what racing is about. Only the drug-free races could/can be called championship events. Numerous greats were behind or tied on the head to head, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others; and who's better in any way is totally subjective period. There was the drug-free Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by Sunday Silence against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of less than two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge against EG with 3 wins coming in close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer ran substantially superior speed figures at every distance. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type, and Cro Lover. Better in any way is totally subjective. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental & essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest & time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time & rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs & with much more rest & time in between races, in his much shorter career. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, & cannot be simplified when there are many more factors & variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs allowed/used, races with no drugs allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, speed figures, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
Travis West, aka an infinite amount of others - Who's better in any way is totally subjective. Noor beat Citation 4 out of 5 races. Citation was better. Beau Purple beat Kelso 3 out of 4 races. Kelso was better. SS held the 3-1 edge on Easy Goer. Easy Goer was better. Akureyri beat Pleasant Colony 3 out of 4 races. Pleasant Colony was better. Gallant Bloom beat Shuvee 4 out of 5 races. Shuvee was better. Formal Gold beat Skip Away 4 out of 6 races. Skip Away was better. Damascus beat Dr Fager 2 out of 4 races. Dr Fager was better. Big Spruce beat Forego 2 out of 3 races. Forego was better. Darby Creek Road beat John Henry 3 out of 3 races. John Henry was better. Cabrini Green beat John Henry 4 out of 4 races. John Henry was better. Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champion Hall of Famer Sir Barton 8 out of 12 races. Sir Barton was better. Summer Squall beat Unbridled 4 out of 6 races. And many more. The list is endless. They don't prove or disprove anything, and who's better in any way is totally subjective. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental and essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest and time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time and rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs and with much more rest and time in between races, in his much shorter career. Drug-Free races stood as huge obstacles to drug dependent horses like Sunday Silence and so many others. No-drug races keep the outcomes crystal clear. Drug-free races were/are a major factor in keeping the no-drugs races the true tests of champions. Winning any race on drugs was/is not what racing is about. Only the drug-free races could/can be called championship events. Numerous greats were behind or tied on the head to head, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others; and who's better in any way is totally subjective period. There was the drug-free Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by Sunday Silence against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of less than two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge against EG with 3 wins coming in close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer ran substantially superior speed figures at every distance. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type, and Cro Lover. Better in any way is totally subjective. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental & essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest & time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time & rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs & with much more rest & time in between races, in his much shorter career. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, & cannot be simplified when there are many more factors & variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs allowed/used, races with no drugs allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, speed figures, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
Travis West, aka an infinite amount of others - Who's better in any way is totally subjective. Noor beat Citation 4 out of 5 races. Citation was better. Beau Purple beat Kelso 3 out of 4 races. Kelso was better. SS held the 3-1 edge on Easy Goer. Easy Goer was better. Akureyri beat Pleasant Colony 3 out of 4 races. Pleasant Colony was better. Gallant Bloom beat Shuvee 4 out of 5 races. Shuvee was better. Formal Gold beat Skip Away 4 out of 6 races. Skip Away was better. Damascus beat Dr Fager 2 out of 4 races. Dr Fager was better. Big Spruce beat Forego 2 out of 3 races. Forego was better. Darby Creek Road beat John Henry 3 out of 3 races. John Henry was better. Cabrini Green beat John Henry 4 out of 4 races. John Henry was better. Billy Kelly beat Triple Crown champion Hall of Famer Sir Barton 8 out of 12 races. Sir Barton was better. Summer Squall beat Unbridled 4 out of 6 races. And many more. The list is endless. They don't prove or disprove anything, and who's better in any way is totally subjective. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental and essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest and time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time and rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs and with much more rest and time in between races, in his much shorter career. Drug-Free races stood as huge obstacles to drug dependent horses like Sunday Silence and so many others. No-drug races keep the outcomes crystal clear. Drug-free races were/are a major factor in keeping the no-drugs races the true tests of champions. Winning any race on drugs was/is not what racing is about. Only the drug-free races could/can be called championship events. Numerous greats were behind or tied on the head to head, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others; and who's better in any way is totally subjective period. There was the drug-free Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by Sunday Silence against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of less than two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge against EG with 3 wins coming in close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer ran substantially superior speed figures at every distance. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type, and Cro Lover. Better in any way is totally subjective. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. SS needed drugs, while Easy Goer did not need any drugs at all. And this is very important, fundamental & essential. Easy Goer ran far more races than SS in general while drug-free and with much less rest & time between races; EG ran far more totally DRUG-FREE races than SS (with DRUGS & far more rest & time between races) at more fluctuating, different distances with far less time & rest between drug-free races. SS ran far less races with drugs & with much more rest & time in between races, in his much shorter career. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, & cannot be simplified when there are many more factors & variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs allowed/used, races with no drugs allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, speed figures, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
Mounds of evidence. In two 1990's books on Claiborne Farm, McGaughey state, "Easy Goer had these issues, but he had such an outstanding way of going that he'd glide so smoothly. The issues didn't really bother him, he was so muscular, strong and competitive, he'd run through brick walls, and I never ran him on any medications. He never needed them." In these same 90's Claiborne Farm books, as well as stallion directory books, Claiborne Farm's President Seth Hancock, as well as the Director of Stallion & Foal Operations Gus Koch are both quoted: Seth Hancock said, "One of the many claims to fame for Easy Goer is, in an era of vast legal and illegal drug use, he ran his entire career drug-free in 20 starts for a total of well over 20 miles of racing." Gus Koch said, "From the day he was born, Easy Goer had a clubfoot, a crooked turned-out left knee, bad grapefruit sized ankles and knees, but he made up for it all by his exceptional balance, action and stride, and never ran on any drugs." When McGaughey himself is quoted directly in two 90's Claiborne Farm books, KY Law, all official DRF & FIGS Form papers, Claiborne Farm, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Record, DRF, etc., & all (all are reliable sources & all intimately familiar with DRF publications) say that EG ran drug-free & was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute). When McGaughey himself is quoted directly in two 90's Claiborne Farm books, KY Law, all official DRF & FIGS Form papers, Claiborne Farm, Bloodhorse, Thoroughbred Record, DRF, etc., & all (all are reliable sources & all intimately familiar with DRF publications) say that EG ran drug-free & was never given any medications (including the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute) or drugs (race-day medications/drugs) within a minimum of 24 hours (1 Full Day; & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career, it means EG did not run or race on any drugs; & they are all 100% correct. EG was never given any medications (including the aspirin bute) or drugs on race-day (within a minimum of 24 hours or 1 Full Day & most likely 48 hours or 2 days because 48 hours or 2 days was/is the standard) of any race in his career. EG also was never given any performance enhancing drugs in his career. Back in the 80's, KY erroneously & incorrectly listed horses as being on (given) bute on race-day, even though they were only permitted by KY law to be given bute 1 to 3 days before a race, 24 to 72 hours before a race, & a minimum of 1 day or 24 hrs before a race. Yet, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen were/are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race, yet KY only listed horses being given Furosemide. "In the 1980's KY law only allowed the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory bute to be given a MINIMUM of at least 24 hours, a FULL DAY, before a race, and up to 72 hours, three days, before a race, but not within 24 hours of a race, not on race-day of a race. However, the diuretic & painkiller drugs Hydrochlorothiazide, Etacrynic Acid, Torasemide, & Furosemide, as well as Banamine, Acetylsalicylic Acid, Meclofanemic Acid & Naproxen all are allowed to be given within 4 hours of a race." McGaughey said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. McGaughey did NOT say that he gave the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory aspirin bute in the BCC at Gulfstream in Florida, & not in the Swale Stakes in Florida, & not in the Preakness in Maryland. McGaughey said he did not give the asprin bute in the Preakness. McGaughey also said that he was reminded even though the aspirin bute would be given THREE DAYS before a race, KY law absurdly still listed the horses as being given the aspirin bute in the actual race 3 days later on race-day. When did KY correct this? 93'. Go look up here on the web of every KY Derby race chart starting from 1993 to 2020, & you will see NOT ONE horse listed as being given the aspirin bute (B) in every Derby. Why? KY did not ban the aspirin bute in 93 & going forward, but because the KY law was/is that the aspirin bute is only permitted to be given 1 to 3 days (2 days was/is the standard) before a race, or 24 to 72 hours before race (48 hours was/is the standard), it was/is incorrect, erroneous & absurd to list horses as being given aspirin bute for races on race-day, nor being on aspirin bute for races on race-day. No wonder why sunday silence was given the potent performance enhancing diuretic drug Furosemide, Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin bute), acetylsalicylic acid, meclofanemic acid, & Naproxen in 13 of his 14 career races; all of these drugs were allowed to be given 4 HOURS before a race, while the aspirin bute was only allowed to be given 1 to 3 days before a race (2 days was/is the standard). No wonder why the banned illegal criminal vet Alex Harthill gave sunday silence the illegal performance enhancing drugs Clenbuterol, Sublimaze & Etorphine. You can be damn sure that both EG & SS both ran drug-free without any drugs (& without ss's banned illegal criminal vet Harthill as well) when running in the Belmont in NY because NY was the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, & as importantly also banned ss's illegal criminal vet Harthill as well.
Two great champion horses going head to head, mano a mano down the stretch of the 1989 Preakness!! Wow!!!! Doesn't get any better!! Salute to Sunday Silence and Easy Goer! A race for the ages!
I remember watching this live and to this day this is the greatest horserace I've ever seen. I just wish Sunday Silence would have finished off the triple crown but Easy Goer was not going to be denied in the Belmont
Who is finer? That is nonobjective and intuitive. They were both phenomenal horses. Though a small sample, they were mere inches apart from being a level, even two to two when opposing one another in direct competition. Easy Goer did accomplish and achieve more in his career res'ume'.
Good points. Better horse? Who was better or superior? Noor 4 Citation 1 in head to head races. Beau Purple 3 Kelso 1 in head to head races. SS 3 Easy Goer 1. EG & SS were so closely ranked (with SS narrowly ranked ahead) by the ONE BH panel. Clearly, being so close in head to heads in the biggest races, AND the fact that Easy Goer's body of work & career was Superior to that of SS, did not make it an easy decision on who to rank above the other. They may have went with the: "Easy Goer's Body of work and career was SUPERIOR to that of SS. But SS's 3 to 1 Edge specifically in the BIGGEST races gave him the Nod by the Same Nose as his Preakness win." Billy Kelly 8 Sir Barton 4. Big Spruce 2 Forego 1. Wajima 2 Forego 1. Interco 2 John Henry 1. Mehmet 2 John Henry 1. Darby Creek Road 3 John Henry 0. Cabrini Green 4 John Henry 1. Damascus 2 Dr. Fager 2. Formal Gold 4 Skip Away 2. Additionally, Crystal Water beat Ancient Title 4 times. Cutlass Reality beat Ferdinand 3 times. Pretense beat Native Diver 5 times. Akureyri 3 Pleasant Colony 1. Who was better or superior? That is totally subjective with many many factors that come into play. And even after those many many factors are factored in, who was better is still completely subjective.
Who's better in any way is totally subjective. There are an endless amount of all time greats who were behind or tied in head to head records, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr. Fager, Damascus, Shuvee, John Henry, Pleasant Colony, Serena's Song, Silverbulletday, Swaps, Nashua, Sir Barton, Skip Away and many others. There was the Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes where Easy Goer destroyed him in the only state in the entire country during that era that banned all drugs. Balanced against that are two wins by SS against Easy Goer by the narrowest of margins, and a total of 3 wins which SS won by a combined margin of lesst han two and three-quarter lengths. So SS held the slight 3-1 edge vs EG with 3 wins coming in very close wins and a loss in which he was destroyed. Easy Goer also ran the record mile one full second faster than Secretariat's record. Easy Goer also ran a better, faster Ragozin speed figure than Secretariat did in their respective Belmont Stakes. Easy Goer also ran some of the greatest, fastest all timer performances at every distance he ran - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Easy Goer generally ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances. Easy Goer more often ran faster times than Sunday Silence at all distances, including many outstanding, perennial all timer performances at every distance - 6.5F, 7F, 8F, 9F, 10F, 12F. Sunday Silence lost 36% of his races, mostly to lesser horses including Houston, Prized, Criminal Type & Cro Lover. Neither the Easy Goer/SS example or the other ones I cite show that any of these horses was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways) or was able to consistently get the better of the other. All these examples show is the records of two horses in a VERY MINUSCULE number of races. A few races certainly would NOT be even close to a large enough sample size if you were trying to establish consistency on a statistical basis; nor is it even close to a large enough sample size to show who was "better" (which is totally subjective anyways). SS held the slight 3 to 1 edge over EG in the races they both ran in. Those are facts, but who's "better overall", "better in general," or "better" in any way are all totally subjective. "Better" is totally subjective and numerous greats were behind or tied in head to head records vs other horses, including Citation, Kelso, Easy Goer, Forego, Dr Fager, Damascus, Swaps, Nashua, John Henry, Skip Away, Sir Barton, Pleasant Colony, Shuvee and many others. Citation got beat 4 out of 5 by Noor; Kelso got beat 3 out of 4 by Beau Purple; Forego got beat 2 out of 3 by Big Spruce; Shuvee got beat 4 out of 5 by Gallant Bloom; Dr Fager got beat 2 out of 4 by Damascus; Pleasant Colony got beat 3 out of 4 by Akureyri; Triple Crown winner Sir Barton got beat 8 out of 12 by Billy Kelly; John Henry got beat 4 out of 4 by Cabrini Green; John Henry got beat 3 out of 3 by Darby Creek Road; Skip Away got beat 4 out of 6 by Formal Gold; & there are an endless amount of other similar examples. Easy Goer also ran many more races in a shorter time period with much less time between races, and at more varying distances; & he ran mostly in the only state in the entire country at the time that banned all drugs. SS ran significantly less races with much more time between races, at less varying distances, & all but 1 of his races were run in states that allowed drugs. Sunday Silence's record (Lost 4 of 6 races; Losing record on his home track losing 3 races) on bigger tracks with a circumference of 1 1/8m or larger was very similar to Easy Goer's record on smaller mile circumferenced tracks. However, size of tracks, size of turns, straightaway/turn speed & acceleration, region, rider/rider tactics, trainer/training, drugs/medications not being allowed, etc etc, are just a few of the numerous variables, and cannot be simplified when there are many more factors and variables. It is much more complicated than that given the myriad of variables that determine the outcome of races. Failing to factor the numerous other variables in can lead to the wrong conclusions about why horses win or lose races. It makes no sense to look at cause and effect simplistically because other variables may have determined the outcome. Just because the Earth looks flat based on the way we actually see it, does not mean that it is flat. There are numerous factors, including but not limited to : superior career, superior & better body of work, GI wins, Graded Stakes wins, wins against older horses & open company, running times, avg running times at various distances & at all distances, head to heads, records set, still standing records, weights carried & weights conceded, stakes wins & stakes wins vs. open company/older horses, varying distances won at during career, superior campaign or campaigns, durability, constitution, superiority & dominance, injuries, jockeys, riding & rider errors, trainers, training and trainer errors, win/loss %'s, trips, amount of races run, track sizes, track circumferences, post positions, campaign & career earnings with & without bonuses, races with drugs & medications allowed/used, races with no drugs & medications allowed/used, etc etc & many many more. They were both great horses, but who's better is still totally subjective even after factoring in the endless amount of other factors. Easy Goer & SS were both greats. Easy Goer won 12 total stakes, 9 Grade 1 wins at distances of 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f, and 12f showing versatility on all tracks & many distances. SS won 7 total stakes, 6 Grade 1 wins but only at distances from 9f to 10f. Both versatile indeed, but that is a big difference in versatility. Easy Goer also defeated older horses Six times at ages three and four while conceding a good amount of weight in quite a few of them. SS defeated older horses only two times at ages three and four. Many other factors would favor Easy Goer over SS as well, including a) amount of career races able to run - 20 to 14 ; b) amount of total career wins - 14 to 9 ; c) running times at all distances ; d) average running times at all distances ; e) career earnings without bonuses - about $ 4.8 million to about $ 3.8 million ; f) career winning percentage - 70% to 64% ; g) Grade 1 wins - 9 to 6 ; h) total stakes wins - 12 to 7 ; i) wins vs older horses/open/unrestricted at ages three & four - 6 to 2 ; j) Grade 1 stakes wins at various distances - EG at 7f, 8f, 9f, 10f & 12f; SS at only 9f to 10f ; k) Easy Goer never was defeated by more than 2 & a half lengths in any race in a much longer career, SS never was defeated by more than 8 lengths in any race in a much shorter career; & other factors that would favor Easy Goer would be varying distances won at, records set, near records set, still standing records, running times, avg running times at all distances, campaigns, durability, constitution, dominance & superiority in races - average win margin and average loss margin, weights carried, weight concessions, etc. Other than SS's slight edge in head to head races, IMO Easy Goer was better than SS in most - if not all - these other factors & categories. But even after all of these numerous factors are factored in, who was better is still subjective. They were both greats, but IMO Easy Goer was a better horse, had a superior body of work, and had a superior career than SS even though SS held the slight edge in head to head races by the nose of his Preakness win. There is a lot more other than head to heads.
