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1997 KICKER XS50 Competition Amplifier Overview and Amp Dyno Test [4K] 

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Takin' it back to the old school with this 1997 Kicker XS50
The XS50 is rated to deliver:
25x2 at 4 ohms
50x2 at 2 ohms (or 100x1 at 4 ohms bridged)
150x2 at 1 ohm (or 300x1 at 2 ohms bridged)
300x2 at 0.5 ohms (or 600x1 at 1 ohm bridged)
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Комментарии : 171   
@HifiVega
@HifiVega 2 года назад
As big as a 225hcca fan that I still am I remember these amps beating the brakes off of them 😬😬 I am loving the return of some old school dyno’s man!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Man I’m digging finding these old clips I recorded and never made into full videos. I was planning on trying this amp with the Quad Box #BecauseSPL, but decided the amp Dyno and overview was good as an extra 😜
@scottiffanimccord1509
@scottiffanimccord1509 2 года назад
@@wal2 I was waiting for dose it bump doe?
@craigengelman1369
@craigengelman1369 Год назад
kicker used to get so pissed when we spanked them every show . o-100 stock class was so much fun with a memphis ar-hc100 amp !
@jordanrobar6085
@jordanrobar6085 2 года назад
Oh the Cerwin Vega's, now your pulling on my heart strings. Love it!!!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😬👍
@jerronimo13
@jerronimo13 2 года назад
Cerwin vega back in the day, had one woofer once, I think 12inch "180" watts whatever that means made in the usa fucking indestructable!👍👍👍
@molloyvader
@molloyvader 2 года назад
Had a ZR 1000. That thing was a heavy beast of an amp. The mounts usually break on these, whatever aluminum they used was heavy and brittle. But they still make a ton of power on stock elecrical, which is what alot of people had back in the day. Regulated power supply for the win!!!! Great video BIG D!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@1-Six-dee
@1-Six-dee 2 года назад
I got one of these back about 15 years ago find it in a pile of wires at a flea market I loved it, I even had the module for it for the lp
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Awesome 👏
@courier11sec
@courier11sec 2 года назад
97-98 was the peak of my car audio obsession. I was running kicker impulse for my front stage and mid with comp gear for sub. Audio control EQX out of Kenwood source. My stereo was worth about 5 times the value of the vehicle it was in.😄
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Fun times I’m sure!
@courier11sec
@courier11sec 2 года назад
Free back massage with every ride. 😄
@TheSFFV
@TheSFFV 2 года назад
I love those amps with the painted black and machines fin tops. Just a sharp looking amp. Thanks for bring us another great video.
@iamnobody3793
@iamnobody3793 2 года назад
Same. I had mine get flooded. Never skipped a beat after I let them dry out.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks brother!
@hookhousebeatz
@hookhousebeatz 2 года назад
Ohh the memories....I had one of these on 2 Lanzar 15s in a sealed wall in a 86 Accord hatchback! I let someone borrow the amp and it came back burnt up🤬😡
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Oh snap!
@greggarner4477
@greggarner4477 2 года назад
I remember these brand new on display with all the old school amps.. Nice to see some have survived!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 2 года назад
This video was a trip down memory lane. This was one of the first "serious" amps I bought. I completely forgot about that SWX module! I never fiddled with mine because I loved the way it sounded as-is (can't remember specifically which chipsets it had). I will say though that this amp delivered very clean and tight control to the four JL Audio 10W0's I was running in a single-cab F150.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@74midwestbass74
@74midwestbass74 2 года назад
YES SIR! Old school FTW!!!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Old school inefficient amps!
@brian6029
@brian6029 4 месяца назад
A friend of mine had an amp that looked like this back n the day. Nice to see what it can do. 😎👍👍
@MrColtnutz
@MrColtnutz 2 года назад
Never stop making these videos!! So captivating, enjoyable and you're amazing on here!! Thank you for always keeping my youtube addiction 💯 haaa.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@courtneylemon8874
@courtneylemon8874 Год назад
I am using a xs 100 now on to l7s 15s all old school the l7$ are the first editions.... thanks for the videos
@kaineleeabel
@kaineleeabel 2 года назад
Man this brings back memories of high school bumping three JL 15w0-4 on the xs50 and it was only 364 watts Great video
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@russellkinder5130
@russellkinder5130 2 года назад
Wow, that's trip in the way-back machine for me. Thanks for reviewing one of my stranger creations, lol. Cheater amps, I tell ya.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@1rexrex
@1rexrex 2 года назад
Nice amp. Still looks nicer than most of the new stuff. There are some amazing deals on good classic amps on ebay. If you pay attention. Well worth the money far as quality goes. Grab a couple of these or some old Eclipse amps. You really shouldn't need another amp ever.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@scottiffanimccord1509
@scottiffanimccord1509 2 года назад
Love this kind of video good job D! I have 2 xs50's so I can participate in the Old School Challange.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
These are killer amps but I think the Soundstream 10.0/10.2’s may be the “50W Kings”
@scottiffanimccord1509
@scottiffanimccord1509 2 года назад
@@wal2 My decision to use Kicker was nostalgia🤗. Thx for responding!
@Guiltless765
@Guiltless765 2 года назад
Loved the XS and ZR amps..My favorite's from back in the day.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@jayinmi3706
@jayinmi3706 2 года назад
I had a ZR120, 240, and 360 in my Neon in like 97. Loved those amps...another thing is that these were class AB, IIRC
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yes all class AB and inefficient
@TheSara200424
@TheSara200424 2 года назад
I still want that classic kicker design subwoofer with the gold kicker logo, I’m about to just get someone to make me a few
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Don’t forget 2024 is KICKER’s 50th anniversary 🤔
@brentb5303
@brentb5303 2 года назад
I’m surprised how many watts are left on the table with the low rail voltage. I know the ZR600’s could easily put out 800+. All the cheater amps seem to be the same. Cool video.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
After playing with all types I tend to prefer the high voltage vs high current amps
@gamerboy3777
@gamerboy3777 2 года назад
That’s someone who gives af brought a tear to my eye
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😆👍
@dennissmith802
@dennissmith802 2 года назад
In 99 I had the xs100 running 3 jl12w6's and that amp slammed those subs. I loved that amp and tried to find one on ebay. Only problem is, it cost the same for now as it did back then. Actually a little more, lol. I'd love to see you dyno one of those. Thanks big D
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
I had one but sold it. Just hated those power terminals on the ZR1000 and XS100’s. They were undersized and too close together
@sakostwwy1903
@sakostwwy1903 2 года назад
Man this video messes with me!! I had that exact amp in my system and won several competitions with it. Then I had that Solo 12" for my subs and man they got it done!! That is till someone else busted out my window and decided they wanted them more than me.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thieves suck!
@timothy5977
@timothy5977 2 года назад
My friend had one in a CR-V on four Kicker comps 15's. Back in 00'
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Awesome 👍
@bassmansl9596
@bassmansl9596 2 года назад
Nice performance of amplifier
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😊👍
@NVzla
@NVzla 2 года назад
D! I know you did a test on a 240, I have one, it draws major power, but kicks an L7 without a problem. Thanks man!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
yeah man, kickin' amp!
@DarkpawTheWolf
@DarkpawTheWolf 2 года назад
Audio Control uses those DIP chips for crossovers (they're just resistor modules). Audio Control would probably send you one for free if you asked them for a module. They're really cool about stuff like this (even for us "non-famous" folk), and I'm sure they know who you are.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😬👍
@Nickword1
@Nickword1 2 года назад
Gotta love those old school amp designs!!!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Inefficient old Class AB amps were all we had back then!
@jarvislarson6864
@jarvislarson6864 2 года назад
@@wal2 I have a 240 I bought new & I believe the birthsheet was 467@2ohms
@masterpanther1
@masterpanther1 2 года назад
Kickazz kicker😁😁😁
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yessir!
@joshholden8561
@joshholden8561 2 года назад
Love this amp had this and the zr1,000 at the same time.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
yes and I'd take the ZR series over the XS series today. We've learned the high voltage amps are better than the high current siblings
@joshholden8561
@joshholden8561 2 года назад
@@wal2 totally agree my zr 1,000 bridged at 2 ohms is a monster have it wired to 1.3 ohm currently raw power.
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 2 года назад
I love those amps
@generalkickass6385
@generalkickass6385 2 года назад
I had the xs100 it was a beast ran it at half ohm on two L7 15s the made in the usa solo baric 15s in a sealed box back in 2000 omg very loud to be sealed the only problem I had with the 15s the tinsel leads and if anyone knows about kicker old school subs this was a common problem with the tinsel leads
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Awesome 👏
@chrisnorrell7489
@chrisnorrell7489 4 месяца назад
At one time I had a ZX460 running my entire system. Front and rear at 2 ohms stereo and the other 2 channels bridged to 2 ohms on all alpine speakers and a kenwood head unit. Unfortunately was stolen back in 1999
@bobbybyrkett7751
@bobbybyrkett7751 2 года назад
KICKER FTW
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yessir!
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 2 года назад
No frills solid tank. Best heatsink for the board. Run hard, no prob 😁👍
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@dilbeckskate
@dilbeckskate 2 года назад
Great video
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks brutha!
@robry84
@robry84 2 года назад
I had a ZR240 and then a ZR360 too. Loved those amps! But thought the power terminals were stupid!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yes really small and too close!
@johnmahoney2178
@johnmahoney2178 2 года назад
Nothing like the old school late 80s and the 90s my head unite was a centric cassette tape with bass and travel and rca out a pb 600 a set of pile pro’s 8 gauge power wire and Bumping like hell less than $ 200 at Pierre 19 the good old days o the sub’s were 8’s 💯👍
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😬👍
@jeremy7923
@jeremy7923 Год назад
Why did none of the dyno LEDs illuminate during some of the first tests?
@1-Six-dee
@1-Six-dee 2 года назад
I has the module for the longest time sitting on top. Of my fridge I wish I kept it, I think I talked with u about it and seeing if anyone needed it
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Oh man!
@nunyabizznizz7326
@nunyabizznizz7326 2 года назад
love this channel too.........💪👍
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yo I gots so much content YT bout to throttle my stuff! Non stop coolness up in WAL!
@wijibo6772
@wijibo6772 2 года назад
love cheater amps.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@minivanin
@minivanin 2 года назад
Badass amp
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😬👍
@LuxorVan
@LuxorVan 2 года назад
So those chips are resistors, if you don't want to remove a sticker to identify the markings you can always talk to your guy at kicker. I'm sure mouser or somewhere sells dip 16 arrays/packs that would work as a replacement.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@victorrobinson9116
@victorrobinson9116 2 года назад
I love performance technique they give me a good Rich sound low pass and sounds so good with the volume turned down low performance technique 2000 w bridgeable to one ohm have you ever tested out one of those please let me know and share Victor from Palmdale California
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
👌😬👍
@danpokojski143
@danpokojski143 2 года назад
I think there was something wrong with this amp... I had a ZR240 and it did a bit over 600 watts on its birthsheet. That module gave me problems as well. Had to have the amp sent back to have the port re aligned. That said I loved that ZR240. Pushed two Comp VR 12s with it and got a lot of compliments for how clean my system sounded with some Boston Acoustics highs
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Could be? But doubtful
@robnoyola6174
@robnoyola6174 2 года назад
yes i donate that amp
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thank you sir!!
@tatoo3796
@tatoo3796 2 года назад
You can solder a good pin onto what's left of the broken pin and it'll work just fine
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
You must not have seen me solder
@tatoo3796
@tatoo3796 2 года назад
@@wal2 lol. I can't say I have.
@Nickscassera
@Nickscassera 2 года назад
What's with the 611w @ 143a and the 612w at 119a between certified and dynamic respectively? Is that normal behavior at the same ohm load?
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
The Dynamic tests current isn’t accurate
@Blowncapacitor84
@Blowncapacitor84 2 года назад
Very cool!!!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@Blowncapacitor84
@Blowncapacitor84 2 года назад
@@wal2 Always Big D... ALWAYS!!!
@olbluetundra881
@olbluetundra881 2 года назад
D. I can fix that pin to work for ya. I had this same amp back in 99. Pushing 2 pyle pounders 10 in a custom box behind my seat. Was incredible at the time. The amp didn't work when I got it. Repaired myself. Where do you find this stuff. Would luv to get my hands on some. I still have some of my old rf. Like the power 150. Just can't sell. Along with some old cerwin Vega stuff and even my pyle 10s. Horder I guess. Nostalgic equipment just excites me. Just been out of the game to long.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks but I’ve found some replacements 👌
@jonathonsmith8607
@jonathonsmith8607 2 года назад
Do you know anything about Adcom amps I had one in the 90’s and have never seen another one
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Oh yes I’ve seen a few over the years. Haven’t tested any yet tho
@MrColtnutz
@MrColtnutz 2 года назад
If you had to choose between kicker and Alpine which would you run?
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Depends on model
@MrColtnutz
@MrColtnutz 2 года назад
@@wal2 your choice to choose. Model it up and pick. I'm very curious 🤔. I love my alpine but have had some great kicker amps.
@old_romans
@old_romans 2 года назад
So at IASCA, you could have up to 1200 watts in the 100 watt class? Crazy
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yeah in the late 90’s it got outta hand with people using 1000W amps rated at 1/2 watt. Forced them to change the rules
@jeffreylittle8405
@jeffreylittle8405 2 года назад
Crazy, didn't the 240 do almost that much? I got to think the 360 would best it by a considerable amount. I have 3 of each the 120, 240, 360 and a single 600.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Yeah the 240 did around 500W IIRC
@krisbrown5322
@krisbrown5322 2 года назад
I had a good buddy who was running 6 15's on a orion amp down to .5 ohm. in a truck with a wall for the subs. it was so loud it blew his rim and tire off. 😂😂 not really it was from broken lug nuts. but we Ll gave him hell and told him it was from his system. the tire came off while we was out riding one day. lol
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
🤣👍
@csj9619
@csj9619 2 года назад
Are those Lanzar (yeah boy!) woofers sitting on the table next to the Kicker XS50? or Cerwin-Vega? (boo)
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
When in video?
@Prostoj25
@Prostoj25 2 года назад
hmm these are tests only for sound pressure ... after all, power does not guarantee good resolution in the bass register, I thought that power was cool until I compared it with a more expensive and less powerful amplifier, but this is not a subwoofer blowing at 20-30Hz, this is a mid- bass
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😏
@Prostoj25
@Prostoj25 2 года назад
maybe bad english, sorry. I use an online translator =)
@jkarageanes
@jkarageanes 2 года назад
I have a xs100 with a bass module. Would you be interested in doing a review on it? I wanna see what is capable of.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Hey Josh, thanks for the offer, but I have a storage rack full of amps I need to test
@marlondeep6933
@marlondeep6933 Год назад
Don't you have time for it now ? I am also very interested, i have one also.
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha
@KyrieEleisonMaranatha 2 года назад
My buddy has 4 of the ZR1000'S had since the day they came out. He was running 6 15 inch kicker L7's with 3 of the ZR1000. Edit: my buddy actually had the ZR1000's not the xs100.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Awesome 👏
@mindphaserxy
@mindphaserxy Год назад
Duck bill pliers can fix those pins
@wesleyzain9524
@wesleyzain9524 2 года назад
Have you ever done a lanzar opti-drive amp?
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Old school amp dyne drag race ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QE9bNBLvVOc.html
@JBLTim
@JBLTim 2 года назад
Wich power supply do you use for your amp tests ??
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
I have two setups currently. One is (8) XS Power D1400 14V batteries and a 60A XS Intellicharger and secondly is a 320aH bank of XS Power / Yinlong LTO lithium cells (8 banks of six) powered by (2) 100A Power Supplies. I have (4) total power supplies, but only 2 connected at this time and I think that's plenty with these lithium cells.
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 2 года назад
Can someone briefly explain to me how a cheater amp worked and why they were allowed in competitions in the first place? I was just a kid when people were doing this stuff with these kinds of amps and I never really understood how this all went.
@drozcompany4132
@drozcompany4132 2 года назад
Basically competitors were put into classes based on the amp manufacturer rated power into 4 Ohms stereo. So, this amp would put you into the 0-50 Watt class. The cheater portion was that you could coax a lot more than rated power out of the amp, either by under-rating it and/or loading the amp down to way below 4 Ohms/channel. This amp would deliver ~600 Watts and not the rated 50, thus it's 'cheating.'
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Droz comment below is good
@1-Six-dee
@1-Six-dee 2 года назад
One awesome Amp when I found mine was over joyed, I sold it to a friend he paid my half so I kept the module so he would come back and pay me he never did so he had an useless Amp and I had a module and no Amp I wish I could find it again
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
😔
@krisbrown5322
@krisbrown5322 2 года назад
they don't make em like this anymore
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
They do, but expensive to get something new like this
@jarvislarson6864
@jarvislarson6864 2 года назад
I have a xs100 that still kicks😁 and mines missing the badge😔
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Inefficient but beast of an old school amp!
@fAlKfaster7
@fAlKfaster7 2 года назад
Is ist real ? 13,88V * 122,3A = 1697,52 watts input But 598 watts out ? 😳 where's the 1000 watts?
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
It's called old school Class AB inefficiency. Went to heat, that's why the heatsink is so big for a 600W amp!
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 2 года назад
just saw an lg home theatre system with claimed 1000w rms on the face and then 96w input max at the back , it's unfortunate to see even big brands like lg playing with the rms numbers like a boss! not a lucky goldstar anymore.
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Bummer!
@allmotorhash
@allmotorhash 2 года назад
Seemed like allot of power back then because woofers were 400 watts maclx
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
I remember when JBL had the “1000W” subwoofers. We were like “WHAT!!”
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 года назад
@@wal2 i remember when the GTI subs came out in the late 90s. We couldn't believe how much power they handled nor the size of them motor structure!
@robertstandish5911
@robertstandish5911 7 месяцев назад
One at my pawn shop here locally. 40$ but if that big ass mfer don’t do over 1k that’s sad. Literally like being a mechanic happy to do a big ass old Cadillac with a north star V8 Open the hood and it’s been sort of hung out the dry with its 4cyl motor sad
@18voltssenceny80
@18voltssenceny80 2 года назад
Kickers 50 watts
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Slightly more 😬
@ebaydudemr8533
@ebaydudemr8533 9 месяцев назад
That is in the manual. LOL but still.
@chuckholmes2075
@chuckholmes2075 2 года назад
why not just solder a pin to it and fix it. there's plenty of meat left on that pin to solder to
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
If you saw my solder skills you wouldn’t ask 😝
@williamprice4269
@williamprice4269 2 года назад
1997 shouldn’t be that long ago!!
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
25 years!
@jaybird57
@jaybird57 2 года назад
Looks a lot like my zx1000 inside..
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
It’s similar to the ZR600, just high current, low rail voltage version
@primus711
@primus711 2 года назад
I can easily fix that pin for you
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
I appreciate it, but I think I found another module
@primus711
@primus711 2 года назад
@@wal2 still should be saved What i would do is solder another pin on then put in a separate socket if its being removed a lot
@mitchaelivel3004
@mitchaelivel3004 2 года назад
Pᵣₒmₒˢᵐ 😢
@bkh5746
@bkh5746 2 года назад
Lol but its a turd for the 500$ price tag
@bkh5746
@bkh5746 2 года назад
Im sry a $1000 dollars for the .5 ohm version.😂
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
This was back in the 90’s when amps just cost this much. Much cheaper watts these days
@paulgood2218
@paulgood2218 2 года назад
Great video
@wal2
@wal2 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and commenting!
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