1997 NLCS (Braves @ Marlins) Game Five [Eric Gregg's ENORMOUS Strike Zone] 

2 feet outside was called a strike..

It’s “Juuuuussst a bit outside!”

Bob Uecker: “Juuuuussst a bit outside!” Eric Gregg: "Hold my beer."

32:15…Yup! Maddux got handed that strike! Bullshit! Braves got handed calls all game Lmfao! So funny you dipshit brave fans over look Maddux gifts and cry about Livan when in fact your pussy braves swung and missed on strike three like 8 times?! Unreal! Marlins were just way better that season and that’s proven by them kicking your asses in only 6 games at Turner field HAHAHAHA

Here I’ll help. 97. 2003. Giancarlo Stanton. And there you go

Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot ya don’t say.

An amazing case of foreshadowing.

Yes, Maddox was so good! That pitch were ball would veer left and then back to the right was insane! I hate braves with all my heart, but I do love Pitching over hitting and low scoring pitchers duels and those three the Braves had were awesome! Florida had a good ass staff too! Brown, Leiter, Fernandez and Livan were amazingly good

Called them for the Braves too! Fair is fair after all!

even more brutal that Eric Gregg an umpire, can just destroy a game like that. I remember watching this live on TV and howling about how bad that zone was. Makes me laugh how people complain about strikes barely out of the zone and then I mention this game and they have no idea. The score card for this game would be hilarious.

1998 was even better team

It's not an obstruction if the fielder has the ball. So when he catches the ball, he's presence in the running lane becomes legal.

nah a typical strike zone back then a good accurate pitcher would get at least an inch on the corners. This was abnormal to get a foot off the plate for left handed hitters and about 3-6 inches only for right handed hitters.

@@Littlewing1977 an inch!?

Actually, it WAS Gregg's fault they couldn't cash in with 1st and 3rd and nobody out in the 1st. He called strikes on Chipper, McGriff and Klesko on pitches that were easily over a foot off the plate. It was RIDICULOUS.

@@gfcpastor Except the Greg Maddux got the SAME zone. So the Marlins hitters had the same thing to deal with. The difference was that they capitalized on their chances, and the Braves didn't.

@@pomerlain8924 You brought up the top of the 1st with runners on the corners and blamed the Braves for not scoring. I pointed out why they did not score and anyone with partially functioning vision can watch the replay and see the Braves were ripped off in that inning. The top of the 1st had nothing to do with Maddux getting the same zone.

@@samtaylor1302 I'm not talking about the first. I'm talking about the entire game. The strike zone was the same for both teams the entire game, and there were few opportunities to get runs across. The Marlins managed manufacture 2 runs and the Braves only 1, which was Tucker's solo homer to lead off the 2nd.

How exactly can you cash in when you have to swing at balls s foot outside to protect? Come on man.

Maybe he was a good guy but he was an atrocious umpire.

@@DNSKansas dude was an alcoholic piece of shit, he wasn’t a good guy

Rip bozo

I heard he fucked an Ostrich

100% this poss, was callin games. what a dirt bag

he called the same strike zone for both sides... yea he should have probably been fired after the game.. but he wasn't giving either side an advantage... he was equally horrible to all

@@Imac7065 the issue was that he called it wider for left handed batters; and the braves had 6 lefty hitters compared to 3 for miami

He probably bet on the total, not the side

If it was in the Miami metro area, it was a strike.

No shit. Glavine and Maddux got more calls off the plate than anyone throughout the 90's

@@rileymurphy559not THAT far off the plate!

Lol.

And a good argument for FBI wire tapping of umpire phones during playoffs as they get paid off by mobsters to throw a game imo.

Or ya know, fire the bad umpires plain and simple, we don’t need robots wiping our asses for us or cars driving for us, people are just fucking lazy as technology advances, your elders would be disappointed seeing you say that

@@Ryandushara I don't care about my elders who don't know how to use a cell phone and oppose progress just because "back in my day...", I also don't even think umps are necessarily lazy they just have an impossible task of making inch-perfect rulings on 100mph pitches. No reason to spend energy on something that can be done better by technology.

agreed! leave the calls on the bases to the umps. those can be appealed, but balls and strikes cannot be appealed. let the computer box call the balls and strikes. I remember this game. I wonder how much $ went into his pocket? who blackmailed him to make these ridiculous calls? pitiful.....

I think the Braves leaving runners on 1st and 3rd in the first in i g says it all.

The strike zone was called both ways. Maddux got calls and Glavine sure did the games b4. It was a wide strike zone and Marlins were smart enough to use it! Braves left batters on base n Tucker couldnt catch a flyball in outfield. Was a great game but Marlins were just the better team! This wasnt the clinching game, Braves still had chances and couldnt do it! 14 divisions in a row and only 1 ring! They Choke every yr!

@@d-mo733 Not last year.

@@d-mo733 absolute nonsense

Well, by definition, having “only one ring” literally means they didn’t choke every year.

Anonymous Commenter the problem was that he was consistent in a way but it still damaged the Braves more. Thing was he had a wider strike zone for left-handers than for right handers, particularly outside. The Marlins only had three left handers in their lineup-the Braves had six.

He has a "wide" zone, not a "tall" zone. The called ball CJ brought down 2 feet from where it crossed the plate. The called strike was consistent with the rest of the game it appears.

Not in the right hand batters box. That last one strikeout of Fred McGriff … would have HIT Andres Galarraga.

in my opinion, NBC has always had more professionalism then FOX when it comes to covering sports

The only reason FOX Sports ultimately won this battle is pretty apparent in this very broadcast: the scoreboard graphic. NBC has no excuse frankly. They're showing you scores of that day's NFL games as often as they show you the score of THIS game. Fox already had the constant scoreboard graphic the year before (you can see in the 96 NLCS). Otherwise NOBODY is taking Buck and McCarver over Costas and Uecker...NOBODY.

@@joeyparkhill8751 they were bad in this game.. how they did not rip erig gregg for the work strikeout zone in history

Pretty sure the first ever tv strike zone was used during this series by NBC

The issue in this game was that while Gregg was rather consistent in his ridiculously wide strike zone, (which was wider than usual even for him, though he was always known to have a wide strike zone, but not like this) it was wider outside off the plate for left-handed batters than it was for right handers and the Braves had six left-handers in their lineup, vs. only 3 for the Marlins

Brinkman shrunk his zone when he went from the outside protector to the inside in 1980, then he took it to ridiculous proportions later in his career. Look at the 1998 ALDS game when he squeezed Gooden and ejected Hargrove in the first

Looking forward to July 1st yet again!

Well, that is a ODD accusation considering Maddux bitch ass got the EXACT SAME STRIKE ZONE, dingus! You watch only the bottom of every inning on a natural basis or just in this game?!

On BOTH teams?!? You should watch the game. Poor marlins hitters were getting all kinds of b.s calls too

Joe Morgan was terrible imo. For example, listen to him actually argue that Devon White didn’t stick his knee into the K zone on that hbp in the 1st on this game. Are you freaking kidding me? Overrated broadcaster imo.

@@JohnMegaton2062 Nah, Tim McCarver was beyond terrible as a broadcaster. At least Joe Morgan knew what he was talking about when he came prepared during his NBC years. McCarver became even worse as the years when on and many rejoiced when he finally retired in 2014.

@@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Agreed!

@@JohnMegaton2062 Joe Morgan was one of (if not the best) best broadcasters of all time. His insight was second to none. And they way he explained it, and his timing was great.

@@AEM-le7uyMcCarver and Morgan both were of variable quality depending on who their partners were. Morgan was great in this crew-a bit less so with Jon Miller. McCarver was at his best with Al Michaels and Jim Palmer. Didn’t have that same chemistry with either of the Bucks or Sean McDonough, and then he started trying to do too much.

Yeah terrible broadcasters

That doesn’t alter the fact this game was ludicrously called by the umpire.

Gregg was scared their flight to Atlanta would land after all the good restaurants closed. He ran up five-figure tabs at Morton's whenever he was in Chicago. He drank and drank a lot, and not the cheap stuff either. He also indulged in $200 cigars.

He was going to order the whole menu

Questec already existed during this game

“I LUH YOU MIAMI!”

+YotesFan1980 Yeah Jim Grey was a jerk, he absolutely wrecked Pete Rose's appearance at the 2000 All-Star game.

man you're right. Why did he keep asking private questions

He's a jerk sure but he didn't write those questions himself hahah

New Expansion team soon to be up for sale? Team in Miami with a staring Ace who’s from Cuba who has been trying to get his family to America? Uhhhh yeah I can see how’d you’d say that

how do you explain the same strike zone against the Marlins? It was even acknowledged on sportscenter that night

You can't be serious. Greg Maddux benefited from an incredibly wide strike zone.

Somebody needed to stop this game and replaced him it's a travisty the braves win the series this year if not for Gregg rigged!!!

@@radconserv68 did you not watch the game ?

No he just wanted to be a hot dog and aim the spotlight at himself in a nationally televised postseason game.

The strike zone varies from game to game shame on maddux for not taking advantage the same as a 21-year old rookie did. If you want to blame an umpire as the reason for your loss, then you’ve become a loser.

Adrian Selbst You’re in denial.

Complaining about the results of history is the very definition of being in denial which is what you sir, not I, are in fact doing. I'm merely showing a knowledge of the game and pointing out factors that led to Atlanta losing, denoting that no game can be "given" by a strikezone. Both pitchers had Gregg's wide zone advantage to put hitters away. Livan beat Maddux. Simple as that. Marlins lead Braves 2-1 in championships with about 1/7th of the postseason chances. Excuse me while I go deny stuff.

Adrian Selbst eric gregg gave this game to the marlins. Stay in denial.

@@josecarranza7555 Stay in the breeding pool. Good day.

Oh, then McGWUFF Does the SAME THING! Livan just had a nasty breaking ball and they just couldn’t hit it! Make all excuses you want, Braves totally could not handle the Marlins! They were way too tough for them! They go 6-12 against the Marlins in 97…OUCH!

Hernandez ends the day with 15 bb instead of 15 k and Atlanta wins 12-2

Joe Morgan's brain needs to be checked for CTE.

That's literally just one pitch. Hernandez got those calls on almost all his pitches. That one pitch proves nothing.

Yes it does..Means the STRIKE Zone is WIDE today! Marlins took advantage and Braves didnt! Alot of swing n misses too! Marlins had the better team that yr, Period! It was that teams time! Great Game, 1 of best ever!

@@zachluigi3826 "That's just one example proving me wrong" is not a viable defense dude lol

Better pitcher my arse. Maddux at 40 was still a better pitcher than Hernandez in his 20's and in 1997 no contest.

Well Dunks, He WASNT better on this day! Livan was striking out 15 of those Atlanta hobos! Maddox just wasn’t able to capitalize on the wide strike zone like Livan was! Marlins were the better team pound for pound! They went on to prove this after this game anyway! Braves had many chances to beat them and they simply couldn’t! Marlins are YOUR Champions for 1997!!

They didn't sell any of those seats and kept them tarped over to avoid the appearance of empty seats in playoff games. But they opened them all up in the 2003 playoffs and the team sold out every postseason game, 65,000+ for all three rounds. They should have done the same here.

Over 50K there U moron! What an idiot. Yanks can’t even do that Lmfao

32:12 stop complaining

@@adrianselbst6777 Exactly. The zone was big for both pitchers. The Marlins just were able to manufacture one more run than the Braves could.

@@pomerlain8924 Not to mention the first of the 2 marlins runs were scored because of a 1st inning lead off hit by pitch and then a 2 out walk from Maddux (because the zone apparently wasn't wide enough)

I do not take requests for games. You guys will get what you get.

32:12. Good say sir.

They didn’t get hosed, Maddux got same strike zone! Shut up and plus those sissies had 2 more games to make it up and couldn’t! They were toast playing a better team!

I believe anyone would argue an ump calling strikes half a foot outside, they’re major league umps not little league, I know plenty of tbell umpires with better zones

Timestamp?

@@anonymouscommenter7689 22:35

Dude died early at 55 and daulton and other players on the field are indeed passed too. Bad form, old man.